Was the Sd. Kfz 222 the most advance military vehicle for its era?

Was the Sd. Kfz 222 the most advance military vehicle for its era? I could unironically see this on the current battlefields.

>V shaped hull
>wheeled,
>smoke dischargers
>hydraulic turret
>20mm cannon

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Who knows... WWII tank spam delayed for a decade or two the development of IFVs with larger autocannons, smaller SPG with recoilless and mortars.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no, but it was the cutest. The driver's position looks extremely uncomfortable.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      As someone who hates all this germanophilia fetishism of German vehicles and Germany in general I love these wheeled vehicles with auto cannons the Germans had. All of them.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They had some pretty good ideas and some of their armored cars were advanced and well thought out but most advanced of the era might be a it much.

        Understandable, german armored cars are super cool.

        The US had stabilized guns in their tanks starting in 1941

        First if all the sdkfz 222 was a 1935 design, so seriously pre-WW2 unlike the M4 which was early to mid war, and the sherman only had a one-axis stabilizer which was not even close to what we think of as stabilizers today.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >so seriously pre-WW2 unlike the M4 which was early to mid war
          M4 is upgraded M3 Lee which was interwar tank

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >M4 is upgraded M3 Lee

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              my apologies, I just had to think of contrived way to slip the word interwar into there

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                but that's also wrong you moron, the M3 Lee was designed after seeing the fall of France, the actual interwar American tank was them M2 Medium

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        These could unironically have turned the tide in the East had they Germans not been autists with 23 different production lines producing 23 nice vehicles all to be used in conjunction in one unit.
        >im rambling

        Anyway, if you use it as a dollar-store hellcat it would have been great for rapid deployment to blunt or head off Russian "deep battle". Because you can hold them in reserve and then when you see where the breakthrough is they can move faster than the enemy, hence, you can find ambush positions. Once in position you ambush the first wave, then gtfo, and rinse and repeat. You wont hold the line but you will chip away at the Russian spearheads so that by the time an actual fire-brigade arrives there is less to deal with.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No idea but they're great in Company of Heroes

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >unstabilized gun
    lol
    lmao

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it was WW2 anon, no one started the war with stabilizers, and they definitely weren't putting them on their shitbox recon vehicles

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The US had stabilized guns in their tanks starting in 1941

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They also made radars standard in ships, comparing the US to anyone else in WW2 is unfair even if you consider Germany's rocket advancements.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Not really, was only at the lowest gears and didn't work how you think it did.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They also made radars standard in ships, comparing the US to anyone else in WW2 is unfair even if you consider Germany's rocket advancements.

          Ahem: Wrong.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Exactly, what self respecting nation would use a unstabilized autocannon in the modern era?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You act as if that couldn't be retrofitted into this vehicle in about 10 seconds. The vehicle is a great base.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I see your reasoning, but no. The V hull was to make it lighter, it wouldn't do shit against even a contemporary mine. Germans were definitely ahead of the curve on smoke launchers though, I don't recall anybody else using them until postwar; everyone else just burned fuel or threw hand versions or used artillery.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The damn brits had a sawed of No1 MK3 for smoke canisters

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's totally disingenuous to call this 'v hulled' as it has nothing to do with mine resistance.

    We accept that desperate, clever, Afrikaaners came up with working V hull design.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I see your reasoning, but no. The V hull was to make it lighter, it wouldn't do shit against even a contemporary mine. Germans were definitely ahead of the curve on smoke launchers though, I don't recall anybody else using them until postwar; everyone else just burned fuel or threw hand versions or used artillery.

      Wouldn't V shaped hulls mitigate mine blasts at least somewhat even if it wasn't designed for mine resistance?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If it was a true v hull design, which it isn't.
        Fundamentality, your shit is wrecked in you hit a mine in this thing. There is not a consolation prize for op.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it needs to be reinforced against mines as well, it's not just enough to have the shape. Mine resistant vehicles have multiple overlapping systems in place

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Was the Sd. Kfz 222 the most advance military vehicle for its era? I could unironically see this on the current battlefields.
    it certainly did a lot of things ahead of the curve, but there have been a lot of vehicles that did the right things way before it was recognized as correct.

    also WWII German light armored vehicles are cooler than medium and heavy.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Puma fricking EATS in BFV. Absolutely destroys people trying to camp in the back and tank snipe

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      For me, it's the Puma.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The M18 went pretty hard too, you'll find it's DNA in most subsequent NATO tanks.
    >Automatic transmission for easy driving
    >Torsion bar suspension
    >Rail-removable engine and transmission for fast, easy maintenance or replacement
    >Ring-mount commander's .50 comes standard.
    >Tactical emphasis on fighting from defilade with multiple shooting positions.
    A section of late models were even tested with a Westinghouse gun stabilizer but the end-of war defense cuts hit before that idea came to fruition.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Pretty cold war-ish design, it never got a 90mm tho.

      >Historian Steven J. Zaloga characterized the overall design of the M18 as "poorly balanced" and stated that "the Hellcat's combat record is attributable to the training and dedication of its crews, not to its ill-conceived design."
      zaloga...

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >cold war
    >insert a new diesel engine
    >better radio
    >slap a MG3 and a Rh202 on it
    >add a roof with a cupola too
    >variants replace the gun with stuff like a recoilless rifle or even an ATGM

    >post cold war
    >replace the manual turret with a RWS system

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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