>pearl harbored right at the start of 1940
it was november of 1940
>the only things that didnt get sunk were tiny ass destroyers
Three battleships were damaged, two of whom were back in service within a few months. the rest of the fleet remained operational and resumed doing sorties mere days after the attack
>this guy knows his shit, nice.
Unlike you apparently.
>even worse
That only makes sense if you can send another 6 dudes to repeat the feat and even the score
9 months ago
Anonymous
well, kinda like what happened at Taranto
Alexandria was a once in a lifetime feat, Taranto too: it was that effective because the Italian navy removed the anti torpedo nets due to gunnery exercises
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Alexandria was a once in a lifetime feat, Taranto too
no, anon said Alexandria was "even worse", when the score is at best half that of Taranto
it's not "worse" unless the score can, at minimum, be evened in actuality rather than hypothetically
>the Italian navy removed the anti torpedo nets due to gunnery exercises
that's cope of the "yea well it wouldn't have if we had" variety
if if if; if bongs had nukes in 39 Berlin would be glass; if I was Leonardo diCaprio I'd fuck Nina Agdal; if I had a time machine I'd go back and buy a million bitcoin
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Nina Agdal >30
no you wouldn’t
>we were winning until we were losing
you wanna pull up the stats for the African campaign until the DAK got involved?
ironically enough, wops started pulling their weight AFTER the krauts retreated
the last stand of El Alamein was pretty hardcore
9 months ago
Anonymous
>no you wouldn’t
with asdic, MACs and direction finding, the bongs had defeated the Uboats by mid-1941, some say late 1940. look up loss rates of British merchant shipping
[...]
not entirely their fault that the Japs were sunk literally 6 months after Pearl. the BPF vs the Kido Butai would have been as hard-fought as Midway I think
[...]
would, and so would you
cmon mate how bad's a 30yo underwear model? >ironically enough, wops started pulling their weight AFTER the krauts retreated
lol perhaps
forgot pic
9 months ago
Anonymous
When 5000 Italian paratroopers (Folgore) resisted almost without supplies, destroying British tanks with Molotovs and Anti-Tank mines. Chads.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>I'd go back and buy a million bitcoin
you couldn't afford a million bitcoin ever
also bitcoin was invented by an english man
just to shit on italy even more
9 months ago
Anonymous
>also bitcoin was invented by an english man
this really doesn’t help the uk at all
memecoins are a scam
9 months ago
Anonymous
>help the uk
who cares? I just want to flip em
I had no idea the bongs even had 40 subs
wait till you hear about the USSR sub navy
9 months ago
Anonymous
I was referring to the >just to shit on italy even more
not inventing memecoin puts you under a good light if anything
Retard, Italian navy put up a good fight and kept the royal navy busy for the first half of the war. They were certainly better than the KMS which could only sink unguarded supply ships and send their biggest, most expensive capital ship unsupported to certain death
Its greatest value was a fleet in being. It tied down significant RN ships and resources being poised to counter it similar to what happened in North Sea during WW1. If Germany had been better at exploiting this weakness and Japan had coordinated with the rest of Axis. The RN could have been defeated in detail. Though when Japan decided to Bonsai their fleet at Midway there was no hope after that.
Technologically and tactically inferior surface combatants, kept being clobbered by the bongs.
Might've been decent at ASW, though. More than forty bong subs were lost in the med, but dunno how many by the Germans rather than the Italians
Pretty much bullied by the Royal Navy the entire war. Lacked radar and air power, the Germans eventually sent Luftflotte 2 to Italy in 1941 because the Italians were so bad at bombing anything.
Mussolini got quite worried about losing it, knowing he would not be able to build new ships. Even if they could hold their own in combat, raw materials shortages guaranteed there would be no more ships. There was also another problem. Oil for the engines was in shorter and shorter supply making every voyage cut a new dent into the reserves. Third, Italian planes were (mostly) not good enough to provide a reliable screen against air attacks. It all combined to make Italy very anxious about deployment to open sea.
it was ok, didn’t live up to expectations
mostly hampered by lack of radar, coordination with the Air Force and never ending lack of fuel
subs were good tho
>It was alright. And way better than the germans.
well, thats debatable.
did the italian navy actually sink anything?
because the germans pretty much mogged the poor british from the start.
>because the germans pretty much mogged the poor british from the start.
they lost almost all the surface engagements, the kriegsmarines surface fleets only noticable successes were sinking a battlecruiser that was 10 years overdue for refit and a carrier that had no planes as it had just been used to ferry aircraft.
Scharhorst got wrecked, Bismarck got wrecked, at 2 to 1 odds the germans still wouldnt engage a battlecruiser. the german surface fleet did ok when it could get at unescorted merchantmen and got fucked everywhere else
The best European Axis navy, but that is like being the smartest kid in a classroom full of 'tards. Sure, it might technically sound impressive at first, but when you include the context, it becomes a pretty faint praise at best.You have to go to the east if you want an actually semi-decent Axis navy, and even then it was just a bad copy of the Royal Navy minus the few redeeming traits the RN had.
Bongs at least had figured out that if you are an island nation you probably want to at least somewhat invest in ASW and making sure that enemy subs don't destroy whole shipping capacity overnight, that alone puts them couple light years ahead of IJN.
>you probably want to at least somewhat invest in ASW and making sure that enemy subs don't destroy whole shipping capacity overnight
Huh? The bongs got slaughtered by uboats. Their naval aviation was garbage and that's the tool to combat subs in that era.
Didn't see the Japs come play with the British Pacific Fleet either?
The Kido Butai outgunned the Britsh 4 to 1, what did you expect them to do?
>you probably want to at least somewhat invest in ASW and making sure that enemy subs don't destroy whole shipping capacity overnight
Huh? The bongs got slaughtered by uboats. Their naval aviation was garbage and that's the tool to combat subs in that era.
with asdic, MACs and direction finding, the bongs had defeated the Uboats by mid-1941, some say late 1940. look up loss rates of British merchant shipping
>Didn't see the Japs come play with the British Pacific Fleet either?
Because the bongs fled, and didn't return til the IJN had ceased to exist.
not entirely their fault that the Japs were sunk literally 6 months after Pearl. the BPF vs the Kido Butai would have been as hard-fought as Midway I think
>Nina Agdal >30
no you wouldn’t
[...]
ironically enough, wops started pulling their weight AFTER the krauts retreated
the last stand of El Alamein was pretty hardcore
would, and so would you
cmon mate how bad's a 30yo underwear model? >ironically enough, wops started pulling their weight AFTER the krauts retreated
lol perhaps
>the bongs had defeated the Uboats by mid-1941
Now this is fantasy. The US was involved heavy by then, and the bongs were still losing, because they had not the required aviation.
9 months ago
Anonymous
A big part of that was due to the US's own retardation, leading directly to the Second Happy Time
>would have been
Fantasy battles are fantasy. The bongs fled the real battle.
>The bongs fled the real battle
The japs lost the real battle before it was fought
9 months ago
Anonymous
The USN was deployed outwards because the bongs were being destroyed. In 1941.
No, the IJN hadn't lost a battle when the bongs fled the battlefield.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>The USN was deployed outwards because
of a small incident known as Pearl Harbor
>the bongs were being destroyed
bitch please, the Italian Navy hit more bong ships than the Japs did
we never got to see a true RN vs IJN bun-fight because the IJN lasted all of 6 months, barely enough time for the Grand Fleet to set up shop in the Indian Ocean even if they wanted to
9 months ago
Anonymous
No, the US was carrying the bongs long before PH, and in fact stripped resources from PH.
The bongs fled the battlefield, and the IJN would have to go to Jamaica to destroy them, I suppose.
We never got to see a bong/IJN battle because the bongs fled the battlefield, leaving others to fight the battle.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>stripped resources from PH >1 battleship
please
>The bongs fled the battlefield >the bongs fled the battlefield
seethe and cope, Yamamoto
Hulls? Good
Navigation? Good
Armor? Good
Armaments? Subpar, cannons were imprecise and unreliable because they lacked proper know how to make high calibers. AA were subpar too, but that seems to be a common problem in all axis powers.
Calibration? Virtually nonexistent
Sensors? Nonexistent. Supermarina was a bunch of old retards that thought radars were useless, even though italians already came up with radars themselves (GUFOs). After matapan, they tried to strap them on their ships but it was too late, the navy was in shambles and turmoils were starting to brew in italy after years of humiliations.
Overall they were good ships purely on a naval Pow, but horrible warships due to the lack of proper arms solutions
Theoretically capable ships, shit anything else >bbbut we denied the Mediterranean
The Royal Navy denied Sealion; the Italian Navy got Husky'd and then Anzio'd
By the time Anzio started italy has already capitulated, both axis and allies were bombing it, partisans grew like mushrooms and all that was left was a bunch of RSI hooligans on pervitin that knew they were all dead by the end of the year
>By the time Anzio started italy has already capitulated
Theoretically, yes; in practice the Allies were still struggling to break through the middle and Anzio was supposed to be an outflanking move to break the stalemate around Monte Cassino
The weakest of the 6 major navies of the world. But still stronger than Russia, and had the most battleships out of the remaining nations who actually had battleships.
But, being locked in the Mediterranean and having a far superior fleet around you on all sides, really does make you look irrelevant.
For 1939 the next most powerful navy in the world after Italy is debatable between the Dutch, Greece, and the USSR.
>greek and dutch navies >powerful
Yes, relatively speaking.
Only a few countries in the world had powerful navies.
So after eliminating the UK, the USA, Japan, Italy, and Germany. You don't really have countries that had navies capable of power projection besides those I listed.
Most nations just had a couple of frigates and patrol boats.
The South American nations of Brazil, Argentina, and Chile could be debated as being powerful since they where sizeable and did have a few battleships. But they where so far away and lack any bases outside of South America that they would have struggled with power projection.
not the worst, like the raid on Alexandria was neat
they had some success with their torpedo bombers, submarines and torpedo boats
but their larger ships didn't accomplish much
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Agreement
we are cherry picking just a little here, firstly it was an amphibious landing something that always has a higher risk of casualties and is vulnerable to weather, but also something you can only attempt if you have sea control.
secondly one british destroyer was lost to shore battery the other 2 warships were lost to air attacks by Ju 87 and Ju 88 not the italians...
reading the actual article which I suspect you hoped most wouldnt bad weather fucked the landing meaning it ended up badly out of position, and the germans managed t get some bombers up in time.
when inspections came, the Italians would remove everything not required for the ship to move, causing it's tonnage to be within treaty limits. it also had the side effect of panicking the brits, because the ship would be WAY faster than under usual conditions (because of the lower weight)
In WW2 they slowed the British down, a bit, in the Mediterranean. That was about it. It was significantly more than the Italian land or air forces managed though, so let's give them some credit for that.
>not satisfied with destroying the cradle of western civilisation, the barbaric German destroys that absolute beauty of a ship that was the RN Roma
why are they like this
>Was the Italian navy actually any good? You never hear anything about it.
It could have been, had they used it more aggressively. Their ships were ok for the time, but they spent most of the war sitting in port.
You typically don't hear of things that weren't of any value.
gay go fuck yourself. the italian navy was the sole reason anglos were afraid to put ships in the med. stupid weak bitch
>gets mogged in port by some biplanes
what did italy mean by this?
>Italian Navy
>pearl harbored right at the start of 1940
>the only things that didnt get sunk were tiny ass destroyers
poor, poor battleships.
this guy knows his shit, nice.
>pearl harbored right at the start of 1940
it was november of 1940
>the only things that didnt get sunk were tiny ass destroyers
Three battleships were damaged, two of whom were back in service within a few months. the rest of the fleet remained operational and resumed doing sorties mere days after the attack
>this guy knows his shit, nice.
Unlike you apparently.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cape_Matapan
>Italy
59 killed
600 wounded
3 battleships disabled
1 heavy cruiser damaged
2 destroyers damaged
2 fighters destroyed
>Broitish
2 killed
2 captured
2 aircraft destroyed
Jesus lol
truth be told, Alexandria was that but possibly even worse
literally 6 blokes disabling 2 battleships, one destroyer and one tanker
>even worse
That only makes sense if you can send another 6 dudes to repeat the feat and even the score
well, kinda like what happened at Taranto
Alexandria was a once in a lifetime feat, Taranto too: it was that effective because the Italian navy removed the anti torpedo nets due to gunnery exercises
>Alexandria was a once in a lifetime feat, Taranto too
no, anon said Alexandria was "even worse", when the score is at best half that of Taranto
it's not "worse" unless the score can, at minimum, be evened in actuality rather than hypothetically
>the Italian navy removed the anti torpedo nets due to gunnery exercises
that's cope of the "yea well it wouldn't have if we had" variety
if if if; if bongs had nukes in 39 Berlin would be glass; if I was Leonardo diCaprio I'd fuck Nina Agdal; if I had a time machine I'd go back and buy a million bitcoin
>Nina Agdal
>30
no you wouldn’t
ironically enough, wops started pulling their weight AFTER the krauts retreated
the last stand of El Alamein was pretty hardcore
>no you wouldn’t
forgot pic
When 5000 Italian paratroopers (Folgore) resisted almost without supplies, destroying British tanks with Molotovs and Anti-Tank mines. Chads.
>I'd go back and buy a million bitcoin
you couldn't afford a million bitcoin ever
also bitcoin was invented by an english man
just to shit on italy even more
>also bitcoin was invented by an english man
this really doesn’t help the uk at all
memecoins are a scam
>help the uk
who cares? I just want to flip em
wait till you hear about the USSR sub navy
I was referring to the
>just to shit on italy even more
not inventing memecoin puts you under a good light if anything
i cant bretahe
Retard, Italian navy put up a good fight and kept the royal navy busy for the first half of the war. They were certainly better than the KMS which could only sink unguarded supply ships and send their biggest, most expensive capital ship unsupported to certain death
>certain death
Brits got lucky
cope
Rudder going down was a complete fluke
Which is why none of us know who you are, but all of us know your mother.
It apparently was respectable, the problem is all it did was annoy the British for awhile; and most of the navy was just inherited from earlier times.
It was the least worst part of the Italian armed forces.
Navy > Air Force >>>> Army
>and most of the navy was just inherited from earlier times.
This was the case for most navies really.
Its greatest value was a fleet in being. It tied down significant RN ships and resources being poised to counter it similar to what happened in North Sea during WW1. If Germany had been better at exploiting this weakness and Japan had coordinated with the rest of Axis. The RN could have been defeated in detail. Though when Japan decided to Bonsai their fleet at Midway there was no hope after that.
Better than the useless German one. At least they did classical Fleet in Being rather than useless commercial raiding.
>useless
Useful enough that Germany was winning the game of chess versus the much bigger royal navy for most of the war.
The sailors were professional and the ships were modern, but their strategy was retarded.
Their officers were corrupt. This is never good for readiness.
Lol, good one OP
The shitalians are all outing themselves.
ok chong
Yeah. It was pretty ok. Without enough air cover, planes will eventually win a war of attrition vs ships.
Apparently good with submarines. Kinda just not notable for the rest of their fleet overall asides from harassing Brits
For being a part of the Italian military, they were very impressive
you think the eyeties complain about the spaghetti on the ship?
Technologically and tactically inferior surface combatants, kept being clobbered by the bongs.
Might've been decent at ASW, though. More than forty bong subs were lost in the med, but dunno how many by the Germans rather than the Italians
I had no idea the bongs even had 40 subs
Bong subs were terrible. Many had nonferrous conning towers so they could use magnetic compasses.
Pretty much bullied by the Royal Navy the entire war. Lacked radar and air power, the Germans eventually sent Luftflotte 2 to Italy in 1941 because the Italians were so bad at bombing anything.
Mussolini got quite worried about losing it, knowing he would not be able to build new ships. Even if they could hold their own in combat, raw materials shortages guaranteed there would be no more ships. There was also another problem. Oil for the engines was in shorter and shorter supply making every voyage cut a new dent into the reserves. Third, Italian planes were (mostly) not good enough to provide a reliable screen against air attacks. It all combined to make Italy very anxious about deployment to open sea.
>Was the Italian navy actually any good?
well designed, modern ships, ruined by extremely poor quality ammunition
it was ok, didn’t live up to expectations
mostly hampered by lack of radar, coordination with the Air Force and never ending lack of fuel
subs were good tho
meme
They had no fuel, so couldn't exercise or conduct operations. The Med is a minor lake though, so the axis closed it off with aircraft.
>the axis closed it off with aircraft.
Then for no reason at all, Rommels supply ships decided to sail to the bottom of the med instead of to Tunis.
Hmmmm, so why did the bongs have to cease traversing that lake?
Post the Axis capture of Malta.
Post the bongs being unable to run a POW camp in NA to hold Rommel and a few thirsty germans.
Yes but it wasn’t utilized properly due to poor (cowardly) leadership and fuel shortages
It was alright. And way better than the germans. Bismarck? Italy done it but better.
>It was alright. And way better than the germans.
well, thats debatable.
did the italian navy actually sink anything?
because the germans pretty much mogged the poor british from the start.
>because the germans pretty much mogged the poor british from the start.
they lost almost all the surface engagements, the kriegsmarines surface fleets only noticable successes were sinking a battlecruiser that was 10 years overdue for refit and a carrier that had no planes as it had just been used to ferry aircraft.
Scharhorst got wrecked, Bismarck got wrecked, at 2 to 1 odds the germans still wouldnt engage a battlecruiser. the german surface fleet did ok when it could get at unescorted merchantmen and got fucked everywhere else
The best European Axis navy, but that is like being the smartest kid in a classroom full of 'tards. Sure, it might technically sound impressive at first, but when you include the context, it becomes a pretty faint praise at best.You have to go to the east if you want an actually semi-decent Axis navy, and even then it was just a bad copy of the Royal Navy minus the few redeeming traits the RN had.
The bongs weren't remotely close to the IJN quality, and fled the battlefield when they had a chance to fight them in the IO.
Bongs at least had figured out that if you are an island nation you probably want to at least somewhat invest in ASW and making sure that enemy subs don't destroy whole shipping capacity overnight, that alone puts them couple light years ahead of IJN.
>you probably want to at least somewhat invest in ASW and making sure that enemy subs don't destroy whole shipping capacity overnight
Huh? The bongs got slaughtered by uboats. Their naval aviation was garbage and that's the tool to combat subs in that era.
Yes, and that is down right tame when compared to what yank subs did to nip shipping even with their notariously shit torpedoes.
No, the bongs were being destroyed on their front porch. The japs didn't suffer such humiliation til late war.
It's almost like the English Channel is smaller than the Pacific Ocean or something.
It's almost like the bongs were being destroyed on their front porch and were too feeble to go into the Pacific.
The U-boats were defeated.
The USN subs weren't.
Didn't see the Japs come play with the British Pacific Fleet either?
The Kido Butai outgunned the Britsh 4 to 1, what did you expect them to do?
lmao revisionism
>revisionism
Explain.
with asdic, MACs and direction finding, the bongs had defeated the Uboats by mid-1941, some say late 1940. look up loss rates of British merchant shipping
not entirely their fault that the Japs were sunk literally 6 months after Pearl. the BPF vs the Kido Butai would have been as hard-fought as Midway I think
would, and so would you
cmon mate how bad's a 30yo underwear model?
>ironically enough, wops started pulling their weight AFTER the krauts retreated
lol perhaps
let me explain this meme to you
Leonardo Di Caprio dumps his gfs the time they turn 25
so no, if you were him you wouldn’t break the rule
LMAO alright I derped on that one
mixed my metaphors
>the bongs had defeated the Uboats by mid-1941
Now this is fantasy. The US was involved heavy by then, and the bongs were still losing, because they had not the required aviation.
A big part of that was due to the US's own retardation, leading directly to the Second Happy Time
>The bongs fled the real battle
The japs lost the real battle before it was fought
The USN was deployed outwards because the bongs were being destroyed. In 1941.
No, the IJN hadn't lost a battle when the bongs fled the battlefield.
>The USN was deployed outwards because
of a small incident known as Pearl Harbor
>the bongs were being destroyed
bitch please, the Italian Navy hit more bong ships than the Japs did
we never got to see a true RN vs IJN bun-fight because the IJN lasted all of 6 months, barely enough time for the Grand Fleet to set up shop in the Indian Ocean even if they wanted to
No, the US was carrying the bongs long before PH, and in fact stripped resources from PH.
The bongs fled the battlefield, and the IJN would have to go to Jamaica to destroy them, I suppose.
We never got to see a bong/IJN battle because the bongs fled the battlefield, leaving others to fight the battle.
>stripped resources from PH
>1 battleship
please
>The bongs fled the battlefield
>the bongs fled the battlefield
seethe and cope, Yamamoto
>1 battleship
Uh, no.
Yes, the bongs fled the battlefield.
>would have been
Fantasy battles are fantasy. The bongs fled the real battle.
>Didn't see the Japs come play with the British Pacific Fleet either?
Because the bongs fled, and didn't return til the IJN had ceased to exist.
Hulls? Good
Navigation? Good
Armor? Good
Armaments? Subpar, cannons were imprecise and unreliable because they lacked proper know how to make high calibers. AA were subpar too, but that seems to be a common problem in all axis powers.
Calibration? Virtually nonexistent
Sensors? Nonexistent. Supermarina was a bunch of old retards that thought radars were useless, even though italians already came up with radars themselves (GUFOs). After matapan, they tried to strap them on their ships but it was too late, the navy was in shambles and turmoils were starting to brew in italy after years of humiliations.
Overall they were good ships purely on a naval Pow, but horrible warships due to the lack of proper arms solutions
>cannons were imprecise and unreliable because they lacked proper know how to make high calibers
Nope. The guns were perfectly fine. What the Italians had trouble with on and off was QA for the ammo.
Theoretically capable ships, shit anything else
>bbbut we denied the Mediterranean
The Royal Navy denied Sealion; the Italian Navy got Husky'd and then Anzio'd
By the time Anzio started italy has already capitulated, both axis and allies were bombing it, partisans grew like mushrooms and all that was left was a bunch of RSI hooligans on pervitin that knew they were all dead by the end of the year
>By the time Anzio started italy has already capitulated
Theoretically, yes; in practice the Allies were still struggling to break through the middle and Anzio was supposed to be an outflanking move to break the stalemate around Monte Cassino
anglogarden gnomes threw their empire away to make sure germany wouldn't win
For what it is worth, yes.
The weakest of the 6 major navies of the world. But still stronger than Russia, and had the most battleships out of the remaining nations who actually had battleships.
But, being locked in the Mediterranean and having a far superior fleet around you on all sides, really does make you look irrelevant.
For 1939 the next most powerful navy in the world after Italy is debatable between the Dutch, Greece, and the USSR.
>greek and dutch navies
>powerful
in 1939 italy's navy was the fourth best in the world
>greek and dutch navies
>powerful
Yes, relatively speaking.
Only a few countries in the world had powerful navies.
So after eliminating the UK, the USA, Japan, Italy, and Germany. You don't really have countries that had navies capable of power projection besides those I listed.
Most nations just had a couple of frigates and patrol boats.
The South American nations of Brazil, Argentina, and Chile could be debated as being powerful since they where sizeable and did have a few battleships. But they where so far away and lack any bases outside of South America that they would have struggled with power projection.
Yes, it was one of the strongest at the time.
You're served.
and who know, you din't ear of them for reason, enter the war mid 1940, stuck in port for lack of fuel since 42.
not the worst, like the raid on Alexandria was neat
they had some success with their torpedo bombers, submarines and torpedo boats
but their larger ships didn't accomplish much
I don't think so, take a look at Operation Agreement. They defeated the Brits for quite some time until Operation Torch began in late '42.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Agreement
>2000 Brits vs 300 Italians + 30 Germans
>800 Brits killed vs 15 Italians and 1 German KIA
>576 Brits captured
>The Brits lost 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 4 MTBs, 2 MLs snd several landing craft
>we were winning until we were losing
you wanna pull up the stats for the African campaign until the DAK got involved?
Cope and aeethe Brit.
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Agreement
we are cherry picking just a little here, firstly it was an amphibious landing something that always has a higher risk of casualties and is vulnerable to weather, but also something you can only attempt if you have sea control.
secondly one british destroyer was lost to shore battery the other 2 warships were lost to air attacks by Ju 87 and Ju 88 not the italians...
reading the actual article which I suspect you hoped most wouldnt bad weather fucked the landing meaning it ended up badly out of position, and the germans managed t get some bombers up in time.
anon, anyone'd have to cherry pick A LOT to come to any form of conclusion of Italian competence in WW2
Best treaty heavy cruiser.
that's because it broke the treaty.
when inspections came, the Italians would remove everything not required for the ship to move, causing it's tonnage to be within treaty limits. it also had the side effect of panicking the brits, because the ship would be WAY faster than under usual conditions (because of the lower weight)
In WW2 they slowed the British down, a bit, in the Mediterranean. That was about it. It was significantly more than the Italian land or air forces managed though, so let's give them some credit for that.
not to e-celeb here but you might enjoy these conversations on that very topic
Fuck just link Wikipedia. Scrpits are just ripped right from it.
> blocks your path
>not satisfied with destroying the cradle of western civilisation, the barbaric German destroys that absolute beauty of a ship that was the RN Roma
why are they like this
Not really, but considering how poorly led that RN was, it didn't need to be
>Was the Italian navy actually any good? You never hear anything about it.
It could have been, had they used it more aggressively. Their ships were ok for the time, but they spent most of the war sitting in port.
>bong amphibious operation
No explanation required. We know the rest.
I heard that the current Italian navy uses glass bottom boats so that they can see the old Italian navy.
just proves they aren't whie