The mechanical complexity would be a motherfricker for a country with an actually functional MIC, let alone one that can't even build a competent AK anymore.
Total gimmick. Killing people or penetrating armor is a caliber concern. If one round didn't kill somebody or pen a plate, another round right behind it wont matter much; you should be using a different round. Hyperburst is an overcomplicated solution to having the wrong round for the job.
Here's a video of Larry Snickers shooting one. The shots do seem to group within a couple inches, but he's only shooting at 20m. I doubt it would meaningfully affect your hit probability at longer distances.
Was never about hit probability, it was a ghetto way to try and defeat early armor by putting two rounds extremely close to each other extremely quickly.
Within a couple of inches is close enough. NIJ standards specify that individual shots aren't within 2 inches of each other when doing testing for level 3 rating. Yea, it's useless at big distances, but for crude armor piercing in close quarters, where an instant stop matters for more, it's like it's creator, Gudenov, in theory at least.
NIJ standards are intended for laboratory conditions that excluse any possible outliers and specify the minimum passing grade similar to milspec, not the actual perfromance of the armor or the situations it's used in.
Correct, but the fact that the AN-94 rounds are impacting within the distance specified by NIJ standards is strong evidence that it increases the odds of a penetration, especially against early armor which wasn't as well designed to withstand multiple hits.
No it wasn't you fricking genetic deficit, it was for hit probability. Nobody back then was planning around body armor and even then stacking 2 shots on one point wouldn't do anything
i unironically think that m16 with full auto lower and long buffer tube and muzzle breake would perform very similiarly but without steel cables inside
It was fun in BF3 and BF4 so yeh
would've made sense in the hands of competent soldiers
I would climb through glass to get one of these rifles. Although I wonder why Russia never adopted it and instead went with the AK12
Look at one disassembled
My guess: Too expensive, not as reliable, only small improvement in effectiveness.
It was never a serious contender and cost 3x as much as an AK anyway.
they forgot the main users for these are high school graduates not engineers
The mechanical complexity would be a motherfricker for a country with an actually functional MIC, let alone one that can't even build a competent AK anymore.
Total gimmick. Killing people or penetrating armor is a caliber concern. If one round didn't kill somebody or pen a plate, another round right behind it wont matter much; you should be using a different round. Hyperburst is an overcomplicated solution to having the wrong round for the job.
You tell me.
link to publication?
1982 ACR trials
Here's a video of Larry Snickers shooting one. The shots do seem to group within a couple inches, but he's only shooting at 20m. I doubt it would meaningfully affect your hit probability at longer distances.
Forgot the link
Was never about hit probability, it was a ghetto way to try and defeat early armor by putting two rounds extremely close to each other extremely quickly.
It still sounds like a good way to frick someone up
Modern armor is rated against multiple strikes within the same area, so not really.
>sounds like
Gee, Wally, if it sounds good it must BE good so no need to bother reading those silly tests because feels are science.
Whelp, then it doesn't work anyway since even 20m leads to dispersion
Within a couple of inches is close enough. NIJ standards specify that individual shots aren't within 2 inches of each other when doing testing for level 3 rating. Yea, it's useless at big distances, but for crude armor piercing in close quarters, where an instant stop matters for more, it's like it's creator, Gudenov, in theory at least.
NIJ standards are intended for laboratory conditions that excluse any possible outliers and specify the minimum passing grade similar to milspec, not the actual perfromance of the armor or the situations it's used in.
Correct, but the fact that the AN-94 rounds are impacting within the distance specified by NIJ standards is strong evidence that it increases the odds of a penetration, especially against early armor which wasn't as well designed to withstand multiple hits.
No it wasn't Black person.
No it wasn't you fricking genetic deficit, it was for hit probability. Nobody back then was planning around body armor and even then stacking 2 shots on one point wouldn't do anything
Absolute gimmick, but it's always fun in vidya.
When the FRICK are we getting an AN-94 Krink?
2 round burst is always highly sexual
No
i unironically think that m16 with full auto lower and long buffer tube and muzzle breake would perform very similiarly but without steel cables inside