>want to go camping
>literally gazillion rules and fees for everything
wtf happened to this country?
>want to go camping. >literally gazillion rules and fees for everything
>want to go camping
>literally gazillion rules and fees for everything
wtf happened to this country?
That's what I'm saying.
Which country?
China most likely
Probably any European Union country
unchecked government and a passive populace that allows said government to continue applying laws, red tape and fees to everything because it cannot control its spending
what a braindead tool, who the frick would work 100 hours a week? i work maybe 25 and my bills are met
>what a braindead tool, who the frick would work 100 hours a week? i work maybe 25 and my bills are met
im sure you've been making 10k a week and saving 9k of it cause you work so much. i mean, im sure you'll be retirement ready at 40 like he is too, right?
oh what am i thinking, youre yet another internet millionaire that just oversees his vast business empire 25 hours a week as a favor to the board of directors at homosexual inc...
He won't respond to this because he's too busy chasing dogecoin.
>tfw i worked 72 hours a week
It fricking sucked, never got to ride my damn bike or go fishing.
It's possible the guy working 100 hours a week will be able to retire at 40, but not likely. And if he does, his body will probably be too fricked to actually enjoy the years he has left.
The only rule when camping is to have fun. All other rules are self-intuituve
What the frick kind of European shithole do you live in? I have never paid for camping in my life. Just go to the woods and hike somewhere, man.
not op, but when you do live in some shithole like i do then it's not always an option to just hike and camp somewhere.
over the past two days i spent 6 hours cycling around a couple lakes looking for the right spot to camp and came up empty. it's "private land" with larp cabins and mercedes cars parked out front for these weekend warriors to paddle board then frick doggystyle because they're too ashamed to look each other in the eye.
i could hop their shity fences but i don't wanna be anywhere near these frickers and i know they'd call the pigs. they wouldn't arrest me just tell me to move along like it's happened before, but frick that noise. keep your lake, i hope you drown in it. rant over heh.
>are you trying to escape, citizen? why don't you go back to your pod and consoom the new Marvel™ movie instead?
I hope the cops who participated in this have to bury their children.
Me too.
Pack anti aircraft munitions
My country of origin implemented county passports, as in you had to beg the guberment to let you cross county lines.
I wanted to go back just to spite them and cross at my old innawoods trails.
people couldn't restrain themselves, procreated uncontrollably, consuming all the resources and destroying everything in sight for short term economic gain. Now we need rules to keep people from ruining everything.
there are 2 rules that i know of and they are common sense and don´t burn the forest down
simple as
>wtf happened to this country?
social media made every moron think they could do anything they wanted.
ITT: libertarian shittards
>be native
>want to camp and make fire
>capitalist anglos try to tell me it's "harmful to the environment" and instead i should constantly buy and burn fossil fuels, buy a stove, buy all this synthetic shit to wear
I will fricking heem every single fricking one of you
If no one sees you while you're there and no one can tell you were there after you leave, were you really ever there?
He's right you know
I live in England where every sq inch of land is owned by some c**t and I still manage to find secluded spots to stealth camp
may i ask what part of england you're finding spots to camp?
i literally spent 6 hours over two days cycling all the way around a few small lakes (more like big ponds) and it was all "private land" or nature reserve with big "no camping" signs. it seems like dogwalkers who park up in their meme 4x4s on tarmac have more priority to beautiful landscapes than someone like me who wants to spend time in nature truly appreciating it, and i'm vegan..baka
south england absolutely sucks for camping in the wild. 🙁
i'll be honest, i'm dumb and don't understand what that means. it's mostly woodlands/forests/marshes/heaths locally where i live, not much moors or mountains haha.
can i hop a fence and still have the right to camp in a some woods?
good question. it's adorble either way :3
update:
so googling 'right to roam' i found that gov.uk has an "access map" so theoretically, if i camp in any yellow area on the map, i should be safe from having to witness or partake in beastiality and inbreeding, or whatever land owners do with their free time...
update 2:
frick my life. i just got back home after visiting one of these yellow areas on the map. it's a really nice area with plenty of trees and some giant oaks which must be at least 300 years old, trails for walking, some (questionable) water sources and flat land for setting up a tent. you know what else it has? a sign which says "no camping"....
i'm trying to be a nice person and obey all the rules but this is getting ridiculous. i'm ready to just stealth camp tbh. either that or i'll an hero.
Not an expert on this UK law, but the sign is probably unenforceable. Rich Americans try to do this with public beaches. They buy a big condo with an ocean view overlooking a public beach, then try to fence it off or post no access signs. Completely unenforceable and people have the right to use it.
it's not a criminal offence to trespass in england, only a civil offence. so if (very unlikely) the police show up, they cannot arrest you, only tell you to move along. if you refuse, then i think they need to get a court order to force you out, but in all likelihood the pigs will hassle you if you refuse...
but anyway yeah, i think i might just camp there, but choose a spot which is hidden and away from dogwalkers.
what's hilarious is that directly next to this land is a campsite! it's an exclusive member site, which means you gotta pay £45 a year for membership, then £10 per night to camp.
i just snuck in there and took a walk around, looks like a nice place to be fair. i read the vistor's book and it had great reviews ahaha. i stole a camping magazine, then went back to the area next door, set up my lil chair, drank coffee from my flask and read the magazine by torchlight. comfy af :3
Is that a small tent or a big creature?
Dunno where you are from, anon, but go to a scandinavian country, they are pretty chill about that kind of stuff
why isn't he a broncos fan then
Presumably he moved to Jacksonville and still wanted to go to football games
Closer you are to cities, the closer you are to state parks that will charge you.
There used to be websites for free campgrounds, you just have to go out.
National forest tend to be free and I've never seen a BLM campground charge anything.
City parks need to hire jannies because people frequently trash the place and they're not going to close it or it becomes a haven for homelessness and drugs.
I've seen one blm one in middle of nowhere had people try to break into the portajohn windows, shoot windows out, leave trash bags along the campsite, throw diapers in the firepit. But that is the cost of being near a major city, or in some cases, people thinking law enforcement never comes which for blm tends to be the case.
you live in a society controlled by israelites who wish to make everything a commodity to be bought and sold, and you are surprised they want to charge you to experience that which is freest that no man created?
if nobody told you "no" then everyone would have children and consoom until there was nothing left.. that's literally the trajectory we've been on for thousands of years.. Praise the authoritarian who does the hard thing and tells people "no you can't all have that"
the authoritarians charging you to use the woods and telling you that you can't carry rifles are the same ones who are pumping toxic shit into the ocean and dumping plastic by the hundred-ton. Authoritarianism isn't the problem, in fact its the solution. Its who the authority is. And the authority who charges to get into nat'l forests and who keeps responsible people from doing reasonable things is unreasonable.
>the authoritarians charging you to use the woods and telling you that you can't carry rifles are the same ones who are pumping toxic shit into the ocean and dumping plastic by the hundred-ton
people freely consuming stupid shit is the cause of pollution. The ceo's are accessory but they don't create demand. Idiots do.
>And the authority who charges to get into nat'l forests and who keeps responsible people from doing reasonable things is unreasonable.
by charging people to enter they are actually trying to discourage UNREASONABLE people from doing stupid and destructive things. Reasonable people being hindered is an unfortunate consequence. What's most unfortunate is that money isn't a very good variable to select for, because plenty of people with money do stupid shit..
authoritarianism by a benevolent force, i agree, ftw
Sounds like you live somewhere garbage