>walk neighbors dog for a week
>paid $280
>frick it I'm going to buy pic related at my local Bass Pro Shop
How much fun am I in for /k/? My first black powder. I'm so excited!
>walk neighbors dog for a week. >paid $280. >fuck it I'm going to buy pic related at my local Bass Pro Shop
you can carry those pretty much anywhere because it doesn't count legally as a firearm
this is some sovereign citizen bullshit that will get you arrested or shot if your try it
If you live in a free part of the USA it is normal and approved to open carry a pistol as a law abiding citizen. All other regions, you have my pity
it's true, you don't need a license to carry black powder revolvers in any state since they're considered antique firearms
You can carry it unloaded but when loaded its still a weapon and can't be concealed or carried without license(depending on your state laws obvi)
Well done anon, they are great fun. Are brass frames really 280 now?
You are spreading a falsehood, legally if that is loaded and you run into the law it will be viewed as a firearm in most states and jurisdictions
Actually unless you insist on full chambers it probably won't, the allow in them does not stretch unless you start using loads more than half the calibre, so 18 for a 36 or 22 for a 44 and truth is that's where they are most accurate as well, in those kind of loadings. Are steel frames better? Sure bu these are no where near as easy to stretch as people make out. I have a 36 brass frame made in the early 1960s that has had thousands of ball though it in light loads and its fine. I did rebuild the internals and put in a new cylinder using pieta parts but it was not needed, I just love the gun and wanted to thank it. No stretch at all
>I have a 36 brass frame made in the early 1980s sorry 1980s weird make 'colt star' basically an early pietta though via spain
Brass frames will stretch get a steel one if you’re not gonna be an 1858 chad
Pietta, Uberti, or some other manufacturer? Regardless they're pretty cool and I've been seriously considering getting either an 1851 or an 1858 for my collection
Can you explain why some people like Remington more than colt?
More solid design, better sights, if you’ve got multiple cyclinders it’s extremely quick to reload once you get the hang of it, I keep a conversion cylinder in my 1858 as my office gun
I saw some videos where people had cap jams. Does it also happen with Remington?
Constantly.
The Colt is the superior design.
Fixed solid frame as opposed to the barrel coming off in order to get the cylinder out. Reassembly of a colt could mean you put the wedge in too tight/loose causing accuracy issues/zero/kentucky windage. They can also warp due to not having a top strap but you'd have to cram BP in there and shoot the absolute piss put of it (pro tip the ~30 grain powder spout most flasks come with is almost perfect for accuracy, decent enough power, and cost to shoot. Don't bother with frickhuge loads unless it's a walker/dragoon/ruger old army being used to clear the shooting bench at the local range when people start bumping elbows because it's just not worth it). Also quick reloads but that's mostly bullshit since most people buy a 58 get hyped by watching pale rider then look up the prices for spare cylinders and then don't purchase spares.
Do you have everything else you need to shoot it?
Those are aesthetic as frick, but I'd rather have a conversion. You get most of the look but get to use cartridge rounds.
>rather have a conversion
Don't all of these have issues?
BP is fricking awesome anon. I spent 25 years laughing at those stupid old fricks making smoke and having fun while I blazed away with my ARs and AKs, and now I'm the stupid old frick making smoke and having fun. I basically only shoot smokeless to maintain proficiency at this point. When I want to shoot for fun, it's BP, mostly revolver and large smoothbores. Also
>brass for show
>steel for a pro
Stay away from brass frames if you plan on doing even moderate amounts of shooting.
If I want the practicality of cartridges, I'll also be wanting the practicality of pistols designed to take them. Not all of us are felons like you are.
Depends. Cap and nipple sizing are pretty fricky for some damned reason. Certain brands work better with certain nipples. I'd argue that if your caps fit correctly, Remingtons seem to jam a bit less, but neither of them should be jamming frequently. Jams should be rare, at least until the cylinder starts tying up from fouling.
>if your caps require pliars or a hammer to seat, you need to either change the caps or change the nipples
>i don't care what the boomer at the sporting goods counter says
Besides proper caps, technique matters. The "gunfighter flick" is a thing for a reason.
>Stay away from brass frames if you plan on doing even moderate amounts of shooting.
Yeah?
At least buy yourself a steel framed one. Also wouldnt pay 280 for pic rel, since it it looks like an old beater, if not actually shot a lot, then most certainly used by moronic previous owner as a clicking toy, which doesnt bode well for its internals, especially given their usual italian level of quality. You buy such gun and then have to fork money to buy new parts. like nipples, springs, hand and so on. Honestly, just shop around a bit, you will find a better deal, either new or used.
Percussion caps have been unavailable since I got mine. Get the kit to make your own at 22lrreloader.com. with practice you can make them reliable. Then cast to our own bullets and make to your own powder ck everythingblackpowder on youtube
>brass frame
please don't
Get yourself an 1858 instead, It's so much easier to to swap cylinders.
Get yourself a conversion cylinder for .45lc and you got a fun gun.
Swapping cylinders faster wouldn't help you much in a gun fight unless the other guy has also a percussion revolver tbh.
You silly goose, the point of swapping the cylinders is to make it function like a centerfire revolver with centerfire ammunition, not to act as a speedy reloading technique
Historically speaking, were those models ever used in the 1800s that used cartridges rounds or conversions? I love the look of classic BP revolvers but I’d like the option to use cartridges, while still being somewhat historically accurate.
Yes, cartridge guns were expensive at the time of their introduction, a new cartridge gun would be $15 to $20 while surplus revolvers could be had for dirt cheap, Remington offered cartridge conversion services for $3 and colt did the same, not sure about their price but it was still much cheaper than a new gun and was a popular option
Why is the hammer spur on single action revolvers so high? Wouldn't it be easier to wiener if it were lower and long?
if its lower then it blocks out a large portion of the handle where your hand would normally be when wienered. i have a feeling youve only seen unwienered or halfwienered revolver pictures or are thinking about more modern da/sa revolvers that have a different grip.
if it was lower it would be pinching the web or uncomfortable to hold.
Is it true Uberti had issues with certain models in their lineup having mandrels that were too short?
Is it still an issue?
Yep. All their open top revolvers have short arbors. You can put a washer or other shim down the arbor hole to fill that gap and get a consistent headspace.
Keep in mind that you will probably have to become somewhat of a hobby gun smith when dealing with bp.
how old are you?