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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >when you destroy your enemy you are desperate
    lmao

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Who the frick even is Will Schryver

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Pro-Russian concern troll.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Fake Russian concern troll pretending to be Pro-NATO concern troll engaging in false flag concern trolling to disrupt the conversion so as to promote a slide thread.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Orwellian Nu-speak

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The joke:

            Fake Russian concern troll pretending to be Pro-NATO concern troll engaging in false flag concern trolling to disrupt the conversion so as to promote a slide thread.

            You:

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Who the frick even is Will Schryver
      Oh, he's pure comedy, Anon. Imagine Armchair Copelord with the delusional tankie bullshit cranked up eleven. Picrel: this is a man who will spend Wednesday reiterating his unshakable confidence in the pompous garbage he spewed on Monday, no matter WHAT happens on Tuesday.
      He's so consistently and smugly up his own ass that I can't figure out if it's an elaborate troll or not.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ok fair but WHO is he? Why do vatniks or tankies even listen to him? Has he written a book? Or is he just another Hinkle? Meaning, has never done anything of note except being a literal FSB kompromat asset.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Near as I can tell, he's a mullet-wearing Boomer in southern Utah. Neverserved, no books authored or anything else of note.
          >Why do vatniks or tankies even listen to him?
          Echo chamber/comfort through times of trouble, I guess? When even RWA, Copelord and Geroman have thrown in the towel and sobbed themselves to sleep, pro-RF partisans can always rely on Mr. Schryver to calmly and pompously predict that this is ALL part of the inevitable Russian victory, and that reality isn't real.
          I mean, check the date in picrel: after this jackass spent insinuating that the humiliating Russian retreat from Kharkiv was all an elaborate matryoshka orchestrated by the genius intellects of the Russian Armed Forces, he pivoted to proclaim that their finest hour was about to arrive... just in time for them to flee Kherson.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why does it read like a typical vatnik?
            No American writes like that.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Trying to sound intelligent and important. Copelord writes in a similar manner.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              he writes like a fricking ponce.

              I swear I haven't cherry-picked his posts at all. If anything, this is just the tip of the iceberg for what a condescending, eyerolling prick he comes off as.

              https://i.imgur.com/Hqgy51q.gif

              >Looted Dom Perignon
              This makes absolutely no sense at any level
              Why would NATO commanders (who he probably believes to be corrupt) be drinking looted champagne?
              Where is it supposed to be looted from? fricking Ukraine? How the hell does that make any sense?
              WHY THE FRICK WOULD NATO, OF WHICH FRICKING FRANCE IS A MEMBER, NEED TO LOOT FRENCH FRICKING CHAMPAGNE FROM AN EASTERN EUROPEAN SHITHOLE??

              Oh, there's gems like this sprinkled all throughout his blogging and post history. Like in OP's post, where he refers to the Black Sea flagship, a Project 1164 Atlant class "carrier-killer" that would cost around $750 million to replace, as "the old cruiser Moskva".
              It's honestly one of the reasons I ALMOST believe it could be intentional satire.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the part that boggles my mind the most is that it is such an inconsequential thing to be so ridiculously wrong about.
                If he had just left out the "looted" bit, it would be infinitely more coherent.
                It adds nothing, just makes him look like more of an idiot.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                In all fairness Russia IS, supposedly, working on a successor to it named Lider(i.e. leader in english), which costs one billion to "make"
                Granted none were build despite them starting to make the first one in 2020, but you know, idea is there, on a paper, even have a model made and all

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Like in OP's post, where he refers to the Black Sea flagship, a Project 1164 Atlant class "carrier-killer" that would cost around $750 million to replace, as "the old cruiser Moskva".
                What what gets me about this cope is basically all the heavy hitting surface combatants of the Russian Navy are old Soviet Era shit. If all that stuff is considered expendable* garbage, what about the Russian Navy's surface fleet is supposed to be impressive?
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_Russian_Navy_ships

                *And it really isn't. Russia hasn't laid down a surface combatant heavier than a frigate for decades.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >North Korea has more modern naval construction capabilities than Russia

                SAD! Many such cases!

                No really, i can list almost half a dozen such cases

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                To be fair to them, what exactly is Russia going to use a surface fleet for in the foreseeable future?
                Their soviet land stockpiles are absolutely neutered, their air force flies as far as you can throw it and their allied nations have been reduced to fricking NORTH KOREA.
                All in all even if every rinky dink rust museum in the Russian navy uhh... returns to port under it's own power then that would genuinely be a net benefit to the Fed or it's coastal successor states because navies are horrendously expensive.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >If all that stuff is considered expendable* garbage, what about the Russian Navy's surface fleet is supposed to be impressive?
                It's the vatnik doublethink at work: anything that HASN'T been sunk is clearly an invincible triumph of the superior Russian MIC. Anything that GETS sunk is instantly retconned into obsolete Soviet-era trash that they were going to decommission anyways, xaxaxaxa; the enemy wasted a missile in unwittingly making room for the new and improved vessel that will humble the decadent Wect, and they'll be laying the keel any day now.
                It's pretty easy to extrapolate their cope further than the navy. These idiots can pivot from a decade of breathless T-14 hype to immediately insist -- with a deadpan lack of irony -- that "a tank is a tank". And I think a lot of them actually believe it. Meanwhile, I still can't type the phrase "T-55 obr.2023" with a straight face.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Autism.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            he writes like a fricking ponce.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Looted Dom Perignon
            This makes absolutely no sense at any level
            Why would NATO commanders (who he probably believes to be corrupt) be drinking looted champagne?
            Where is it supposed to be looted from? fricking Ukraine? How the hell does that make any sense?
            WHY THE FRICK WOULD NATO, OF WHICH FRICKING FRANCE IS A MEMBER, NEED TO LOOT FRENCH FRICKING CHAMPAGNE FROM AN EASTERN EUROPEAN SHITHOLE??

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Because the cargo cult phenomenon is very real.
              The west is successful because they performed the correct magic incantations and all the good stuff simply manifested.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Do you have the magic incantation for getting a gf?
                I think they forgot to include it during my orientation

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Shave your pubes, glue them to your chin making the result as scraggly as possible, travel to Chechnya and get volunteered.
                Infinite mobik boypussy cheat.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It also shows how much of a Utah bumpkin yokel this dude is. Why would multiple high-ranking officers *in Europe* choose such a boring and overpriced champagne? Sure, it's a decent to good wine, but the wine industry has moved on from the 60s and French wine is slowly being re-evaluated as not being the holy grail of wine anymore. Hell, even the fricking Balkans are starting to pump out decent wines.
              They'd be toasting with something a bit more exciting and daring, not a bottle who's primary claim to fame in the current day is giving rappers a word to rhyme with that makes them sound cultured.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It also shows how much of a Utah bumpkin yokel this dude is.
                Oh, agreed -- he epitomizes that small-town provincialism that's never travelled abroad and therefore regards itself as a greater authority on all things, rather than blinkered by lack of perspective. You know the type: "well, my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge, college boy."
                >t. Iron County native, from a town not far from Will Schryver's

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            "Masters of empire in London"
            There are no bongs who actually beleive we're the masters of anything at this point. Literally Russians and Russian fanboys are the only ones left who still think we're a giant evil empire, it's hilarious how buckbroken they are over the crimean war and sheeyyyt. We have like 80,000 troops to spare and a few ships but in russia the "perfidous anglo" memes are't a joke

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Im a burger and i find the Russian obsession with Britain fascinating. Turkey actively shoots down their plane and kills a russian ambassador. They barely care. America bullies them globally including deleting a Wagner company in Syria. They barely care.

              Britain breathes.
              >WE NUKE YOU SOON SYKA IMPERIALIST SCUM. MIGHTY KUZNETSOV SMOGS YOUR COAST XAXAXA

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Old grudges and all, it is no exaggeration that anything /misc/ attributes to israelites, Russia will attribute to "anglo-saxons", which I always found to be an odd way of calling brits, its like calling americans "dutch settles" or something like that

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >which I always found to be an odd way of calling brits, its like calling americans "dutch settles" or something like that
                I read it as an attempt to be poetic by deliberately calling them by an archaic name in that pseudo-cultured affect some vatniks try to put on. It's like referring to Germans as Teutons/Teutonic which you occasionally see.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                A Russian's view of the world is infinitely interesting.
                The defensive alliance created to stop THEIR imperialist expansion is a Saturday morning cartoon villain-esque organization hell bent on conquest.
                Britain controls the world.
                The israelites are German supremacists
                Every country bordering them is simultaneously both poor and stole all the wealth from noble Russia.
                America is a post-apocalyptic tribal society in contstant open revolt against it's totalitarian (German supremacist) israeli state leaders.
                The Poles are currently launching an invasion on Ukraine to take land.

                It's like if you showed an extraterrestrial a typical Paradox map game in progress and told them this is actual human history.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Simultaneously saying your enemies are controlled by israelites but also nazis is my favorite, they are like little kids just throwing everything into one insult

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The most hilarious bit about it is that NAZIisraelite is not a new boogeyman for Russians.
                A metric shit tonne of ''middle-eastern hebrews'' are actually just Polak-Russians larping real hard with the majority of Ashkenazim (that is ''german israelites'') actually being oppa blyad vodka kuda? slavs.
                So the USSR genuinely believed that these israeli slavs would side with the comintern in the cold war and to nobody's surprise but theirs the israelites told them to shove it.
                And that's the story of how the israelites became the nazis. L'chaim Hitler.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Their view of nazis had nothing to do with israelites, unlike western israelite victim dominated narratives (I'm not even being conspiratorial). The only thing Russia has an interest in in demonising the nazis was that they were invaders of Russia and betrayers of an alliance to capture Poland. They do not give a frick about the israelites in this context, they only care about their war dead in history.
                Remember Russia also killed a frick ton of israelites after the war, and killed a ton more in gulags so they would leave to Israel and create the new israeli state, they have no interest in promoting "Nazi = kill israelite = bad" since that would implicate themselves as well, they prefer to ignore it and focus on the invader, betrayer, murderer narrative.
                Histories priorities change depending on countries narratives and desires to shape history.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Britain is the only remaining power that Russia fought a war with, and never actually got payback on. They beat France, they beat Japan, they beat Germany, but they NEVER won a war against Britain. They're still mad about the Crimean War.
                Also, Britain at least seems beatable to them. Even the most krokodil-addled vatnik can recognise that they can't win a straight fight against America.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                they unironically bought into the Mein Kampf argument that Britain plays the Continental powers like a puppetmaster, plus there's a lot of Empire envy because Russians look at the British Empire and think "I coulda binna contender", plus Crimean War angst, plus the USSR massively output frickheaps of anti-British propaganda because Britain was regarded as the enemy of Communism AND they helped the White Russians

                always bear in mind that when Stalin was informed that Hitler was invading, his first response was "impossibru it must be a perfidious anglo trick!"

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >maskirovka
            I hate when normies use specialized terms.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I intended the malapropism as a joke, since the correct word is italicized front and center in the pic, but I can see where that might not have been immediately obvious to (You), Anon.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I meant Will Schryver using "maskirovka", not you. You're cool.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >the shoe will drop and it will fall like a thunderbolt
            He even writes like a real zigger with their awkward yet elaborate analogies, cute!

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Near as I can tell, he's a mullet-wearing Boomer in southern Utah. Neverserved, no books authored or anything else of note.
            FFS even Armchair Baldlord wrote a book.

            lel

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          vatniks and tankies will unironically flock around anyone willing to support their bullshit.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He's just some dude. Armchair copelord is also just some rando artilleryman who's written a bunch of pedo style teen books, and there's some other guy I cant remember his name who was some nuclear inspector (walks around with a detector and looks for refining equipment that's basically it) that got kompromat by some 17/18 year old girl who "didn't agree with the Russian government" and totally wasn't an FSB asset feeding him what he wanted to hear lmao, can't remember his name though but he's been on RT as a "US military man" before lmao.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/LHtHnBV.jpg

        Near as I can tell, he's a mullet-wearing Boomer in southern Utah. Neverserved, no books authored or anything else of note.
        >Why do vatniks or tankies even listen to him?
        Echo chamber/comfort through times of trouble, I guess? When even RWA, Copelord and Geroman have thrown in the towel and sobbed themselves to sleep, pro-RF partisans can always rely on Mr. Schryver to calmly and pompously predict that this is ALL part of the inevitable Russian victory, and that reality isn't real.
        I mean, check the date in picrel: after this jackass spent insinuating that the humiliating Russian retreat from Kharkiv was all an elaborate matryoshka orchestrated by the genius intellects of the Russian Armed Forces, he pivoted to proclaim that their finest hour was about to arrive... just in time for them to flee Kherson.

        Jesus this man is like qtard levels of delusion... basically like a literal vatniks qtard.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I kid you not, the rabbit hole goes even deeper into copium-overdosed moronation. Scroll his blog posts or Twitter history, it's hilarious.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >no full scale invasion of Ukraine was ever contemplated or occurred
        Holy fricking shit

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Remember, it's only a war if Russia says it is. otherwise every Russian killed by Ukraine is an act of terrorism

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous
  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Shit we must of missed the part where the black sea fleet yelled "safety" when entering port.
    Truly the rooster is pounding our ass for such perfiddy.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Old cruiser Moskva
    Funny way of calling a flagship of the black sea navy

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Also funny how when it was sunk they were hysterical and calling for full scale war, even nuking kyiv.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I remember that moment as when i realized russia either couldnt or wouldnt nuke shit

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Bad take anon, Russian citizens / shills calling for nooks are like us calling for TZD, it's what they want the state to do but they have no power to force the state to do it.
          That said Russia won't nook because nooking for any reason other than being invaded or nooked is politically moronic to the point you could expect total global sanctions until your grandchildren died of old age.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What are you even on about.
        The Moskva never sunk, it was sunk by Boris Johnson piloting a kamikaze plane into it and we didn't need it anyway.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >latest
          >moskva is alive
          How long did that last?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The Moskva never sunk, it returned to port under it's own power.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/372778088/#372778088
            Knock yourself out.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >latest
              >moskva is alive
              How long did that last?

              I also autistically went through the archive to find the first thread where they finally admit (i.e, open the thread with that it sunk)

              https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/372852634/

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >RU MoD: cruiser Moskva sank while being towed in a storm ;_;7

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They were doing pretty well until that RT post dropped.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oh yeah the threads were full of /k/ommandos telling them it sunk and shit. But they refuse to believe anything unless it comes from Russia (unless it suits their narrative, then it doesn't matter).

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            according to this anon

            https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/372778088/#372778088
            Knock yourself out.

            [...]
            I also autistically went through the archive to find the first thread where they finally admit (i.e, open the thread with that it sunk)

            https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/372852634/

            about 10 hours. They made 9 threads in that time. Literally a thread an hour. People talk about 'Ukrainian shills' but that is objectively shilling. Especially all the weird flags that are supporting Russia in there and using terms and words they wouldn't use.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous
          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >globohomosexual nuspeak like Kyiv
            >UKROP sources like game footage
            Do... do they not see the irony of what they're posting? What am I saying, this is /misc/ they burnt out their ability to detect irony along with their lateral reasoning skills years ago.

            The main benefit of sinking ships at this point is probably not the immediate military value, but the impact it has on shippers and insurance companies considering the Ukraine trade and risk of Russian interception at sea. That leaves just the air threat which as you say is significantly reduced already.

            It's also the kind of thing they can take as a provable success to the US, France, UK, etc when asking for more missiles and artillery shells.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >black sea
      is just some pond
      it was never really important

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >is just some pond
        >it was never really important
        I guess that means they don't really need a warm water port to service it then

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Ships in port automatically don't matter simply by virtue of being in port
    damn someone should have told FDR that pearl harbour was no biggie

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    can i get that in larger text that isnt fricking night mode please

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what are you, seventy?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        no, but i am susceptible to increased after image effects that light text over a dark background makes, also that cap is fricking tinny and not sized correctly.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cope in being

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >NATO drones and missiles
    Wasn’t Moskva sunk by neptunes? Also wasn’t the corvette sunk by Ukrainian drones?
    >none of the 11 ships, with the exception of tow warships sunk at sea, is meaningful in the context of the current war
    It’s so weird how English speaking Ziggers live in some parallel reality to their Russian counterparts. Even Russian milbloggers pointed out how the loss of landing ships is a serious blow to Russia‘s logistics in the region.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Wasn’t Moskva sunk by neptunes? Also wasn’t the corvette sunk by Ukrainian drones?
      I heard it was sunk using Bayraktars.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Both are true. The bayraktar caused the ship to focus on it while 2 neptunes slapped into it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >reading comprehension
      He said since June 2022 they’ve all been hit with NATO weapons, which is a strange cope in of itself. Moskva was sunk before that cut off.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What a strange cut off point, almost like it was intentional or something to try and make your enemy seem less competent

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Even Russian milbloggers pointed out how the loss of landing ships is a serious blow to Russia‘s logistics in the region.
      That's because they can actually read the reports and it is quite impossible not to reach that conclusion. People like this guy literally get handed runsheets from their handlers and have no ability to actually view firsthand information or speak Russian at all.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >People like this guy literally get handed runsheets from their handlers
        I genuinely don't believe that American vatniks like Schryver or Copelord are literal Russian assets getting handed canned lines. I think guys like these are just your basic U.S.-based U.S.-hating zealots who support anything they can spin as a win against "the crumbling American Empire." They're not pro-Russia so much as they are boosters for absolutely anything anti-USA.
        That's my explanation for their disconnect from the official Russian party line: when the Russian MoD downplays bad news, the Russian Telegram accounts go through mood swings but parrot the official story; Copelord and Schryver and the like are free to blithely ignore anything that doesn't fit their narrative of a "U.S. weak and bad, and I'm a genius who can't be fooled like you sheep".

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >We dont really need the Moskva

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >note that @KaptainLoma lists 12 ships
    >Of the other 9 listed
    wat

    >an old Kilo class sub
    He's referring to the Rostov-on-Don here? The one laid down 2011 and launched 2014? the one being used to launch kalibr missiles at parks and residential apartments?

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    guy walk the whole 9 yards - from "the fleet was negligible", through "they didn't need it", "they were not used" to finish "it was struck by NATO personnel"

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >will schryver

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Unfortunately, he is correct that most people are generally moronic. We live in world where there is an absolute cacophony of information, more than anyone can really process. Most people just pick out the stuff they like and roll with while ignoring the rest

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Midwit take
        The truth is all people are moronic but westernisation makes people fractionally less moronic
        Look at the vatBlack folk going en masse to be cubed without a whisper of defiance vs. US resistance to Vietnam and say that's thr same

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Rare vatnik W

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >t. npc cattle

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I miss the days when shills for an enemy nation would have their lives destroyed.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      These people act as if "propaganda" and "the media" are concepts entirely unique to the western world. I really doubt a guy in Iran shouting "death to America" is doing it because his intellect independently arrived to that reasoning.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you base an entire town's economy off of mining the irony in that post.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's a constant Dunning-Kruger standup bit for these folks huh. Honestly, whenever I have moments of self doubt, I like to remember creatures like this exist and feel better knowing that I'm at least somewhat aware of my shortcomings.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      he does have a point that every1 thinks they are not affected by propoganda.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >ukraine sunk 12 russian ships
    >but 9 were sunk while they were dry docked
    >those dont count lmao
    >out of 3 that were sunk on water, moskva and ivanvetsz were really old
    >HAHAHAHAHA
    >another win for mighty puccia
    >go putin
    Fricking boomers lmao

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >old cruiser
    >old corvette

    Is there any ship in the russian navy that isnt atleast 40 years old?

    Like, holy shit, they still use a salvage ship thats over 100 years old, is older than the fricking soviet union

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      His constant use of the word "old" either brings in doubt just how "old and useless" these ships really are to Russia, or brings in doubt just how capable Russia is in "replacing these ships no problem".
      They have such great shipbuilding capabilities, yet all their shit is decades old?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Dude you can't hate on the Kommuna. She's like a grandma that is VERY disappointed in how her grandkids turned out but she'll still cook them great meals when they're over and send Christmas cards. Because that's what a good grandma does. Plus, a pre soviet ship that's STILL in active service is just cool as hell. The USS Constitution and the HMS Endeavor beat it on a technicality but who cares.

      If that sounds neat, get cozy and watch this frens. It's great.

      ?si=sE8ju3orT_TjbvZi

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I will be legitimately upset if anything happens to the Kommuna. It is pretty much the only thing in that country that I would not like to be destroyed.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I would like to visit St Basil's Cathedral, I think

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I love how, in all these coping Telegram channels talking about how 'the ship was old and going to be retired soon anyway', the lives of Russian sailors are so completely worthless as to not even be worth mentioning.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they die for monke and his dream of banan, a worthy death for any serf

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The ship was crewed by hohol POWs.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the lives of Russian sailors are so completely worthless as to not even be worth mentioning.
      They were old and were in line to decommission later this year anyway, along with their ship.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Its a common theme in pro-Russian posts on PrepHole to talk about equipment as disposable or replaceable and never mention the human aspect of those losses. I've noticed it for a while now, but I'm reluctant to come to the obvious conclusion.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Russians value the lives of their countrymen less than the moderates here calling for TZD, it's a truly vile culture

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What are some historical events that were also unimpressive?
    -Royal Oak in Scapa Flow
    -French fleet at Mers-el-Kébir
    -Italian fleet at Taranto
    -Pacific fleet in Pearl Harbor
    Destroying air forces on the ground also seems like a waste of resources

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Destroying air forces on the ground also seems like a waste of resources
      >Destroying the enemies weapons before they can be used against you is a waste

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >nato provided surface drones
    literally made by some dude in a garage lmao

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Black Sea Fleet size
    >c. 40 surface warships (surface combatants, amphibious, mine warfare) plus support and auxiliaries
    >7 submarines (2 of which are in the Mediterranean as of March 2022)[2][3]

    21 Ships damaged or destroyed

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >In fact, the Ivonovets was actually in Lake Douzlav
    Does this mother fricker not comprehend that if Russia can't keep its warships safe inside harbors or lakes in Crimea, then it can't keep them safe in the Western part of the black sea? Meaning they can't say, blockade interdict-shipping outside of Ukraine's one remaining major shipping port in Odessa? I'm sure that the Ukrainians managing that kinda of area denial is entirely inconsequential.
    https://www.gro-intelligence.com/insights/ukraine-grain-exports-reach-highest-levels-since-the-war-began

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Does this mother fricker not comprehend that if Russia can't keep its warships safe inside harbors or lakes in Crimea, then it can't keep them safe in the Western part of the black sea? Meaning they can't say, blockade interdict-shipping outside of Ukraine's one remaining major shipping port in Odessa?
      Fricking THIS - a successful attack by USVs on a surface ship in internal waters of Crimea is not a good thing for Russia. And the inability to make good on their promise to close Ukraine's grain trade is probably one of the top three strategic wins to date for Ukraine alongside the Kyiv axis withdrawal and the liberation of Kherson

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Does this mother fricker not comprehend that if Russia can't keep its warships safe inside harbors or lakes in Crimea, then it can't keep them safe in the Western part of the black sea? Meaning they can't say, blockade interdict-shipping outside of Ukraine's one remaining major shipping port in Odessa?

      These jetski type drones only go fast in calm seas and their action range is small.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The black sea is aleays calm you dumb frick

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The fact Ukraine can basically ship grain, steel coils, and ore through it's ports again shows just how cucked the Black Sea Fleet has become.
      Losing Snake Island was bad, the Moskva worse, and the succeeding losses and damages have basically made them incapable of blockading Ukraine altogether.
      Most of their remaining frigates and corvettes are either in the Baltic Sea/ Mediterranean now or hugging the East coast of the Black Sea around Novorossiysk.
      They also lost a valuable S-300VM that would have allowed them to hit ships from Crimea as well, and Saky/Belbek/Dzhankoi in Crimea are just craters and incapable of supporting aerial patrols, not to mention Ukraine hunts for them when they fly near their coast.
      I honestly hope that admiral Sokolov is dead, if I was him I would rather be dead than deal with the humiliation that is the BSF.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        History teaches us many things, but one thing for certain; the sea hates vatniks

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          is he tho? looks like he's alive but probably paraplegic or something, if he's too lazy to even stand up from his comfy pillow.
          also did he speak during that livestream?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >also did he speak during that livestream
            no

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He didn't speak, he didn't move, he didn't open his eyes. It was LITERALLY a Weekend at Bernie's style comedy sketch done unironically.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The main benefit of sinking ships at this point is probably not the immediate military value, but the impact it has on shippers and insurance companies considering the Ukraine trade and risk of Russian interception at sea. That leaves just the air threat which as you say is significantly reduced already.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >we didn't need it anyway

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I mean it's true that russia losing a corvette doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things. Calling the Slava class cruiser "old" is more of a comment on the Russian military, seeing as it was the fricking FLAGSHIP of the fleet.
    It's not going to tip the balance of the war, but it's a fricking biblical grade humiliation for Russia and makes them look weak and incompetent. It also shows that their big missile cruisers which are the offensive backbone of their navy are just crusty old shitters. I don't think they have produced anything that compares to the Slava since the downfall of ther USSR and it was sunk with a single harpoon equivalent missile.
    TL;DR the cope is accurate enough that merking the black sea fleet isn't changing the situation on the ground too much, but that doesn't stop it being a fricking disaster for russia

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sure a missile corvette isn't the same as the totally not needed and anyways not at all sunk Moskva, but I will enjoy the destruction of russian assets anyway and it is less stuff they can sling at Ukraine.
    Hopefully it wasn't just russian material assets getting destroyed but Russian military personel getting killed, while one may also enjoy the thought of that leaving some russian widows and orphans back home I'd prefer if they died before spawning more russians as I am nothing but a moderate in these questions.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >old kilo class in a drydock
    A modernized kilo with the ability to launch kalibrs.
    Among the rest of the garbage this trash heap put out.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why do they so desperately want NATO personnel to be directly involved in this?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Less humiliating than having to admit being beat by the second poorest country in Europe

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >it took the entire world to defeat us
      is much more digestible than
      >we got ground into dust trying to invade fricking Ukraine

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They consider Yooks to be racially inferior, they want an excuse fir losing.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think the other anons are wrong, I think it’s more about the idealogical framework for the multipolar nonsense. It’s less about being at war with NATO now, as it is that when the current war is over, they will still be at war with NATO.

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >old kilo-class sub
    it was one of the most modern submarines in russia's arsenal lol

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Meanwhile.....

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That looks like a bad CGI rendering to me.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It was just a waste of ressources ackshually

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      To be fair to them, what exactly is Russia going to use a surface fleet for in the foreseeable future?
      Their soviet land stockpiles are absolutely neutered, their air force flies as far as you can throw it and their allied nations have been reduced to fricking NORTH KOREA.
      All in all even if every rinky dink rust museum in the Russian navy uhh... returns to port under it's own power then that would genuinely be a net benefit to the Fed or it's coastal successor states because navies are horrendously expensive.

      here, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

      t. moderate

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      At this point I'm convinced Russians and assorted shills just live in some sort of alternate reality and that social media is the only place we share with them in ours. It has to be.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i've never met a poltard in real life either, or if i have they were afraid to be honest

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I was the annoying teen shitposting about nazis and Blacks back on old /n/ & /new/ and I got an actual /misc/tard some 5-10 years younger than me at work.
          Lives with his granny, addicted to social media, ''single,'' brings up statistics, weird about women - the whole nine yards.
          To me it feels like a pit in my stomach, because I legitimately could see how I could have ended up like him if my parents had drunk out of plastic bottles for a couple more years before conceiving me and I grew up with a smart phone from early childhood.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >To me it feels like a pit in my stomach, because I legitimately could see how I could have ended up like him if my parents had drunk out of plastic bottles for a couple more years before conceiving me and I grew up with a smart phone from early childhood.
            I get that feeling sometimes too, sometimes I think if I was born a few years later and was more terminally online I might have ended up sucked into groyper homosexualry.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They are either just normal enough to hide their powerlevel or so far gone that they never leave the basement. Complete schizo-tiers who cut their fathers head of on Youtube because the toaster told him israelites are in the wall are luckily far apart

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Every mass shooter since Cho was so fricking demented everyone they ever met told police they were dangerous for years on end. Red flag law? Motherfricker that was a red flag deployed by a network of C-130s flying in formation, IN PLACES WITH RED FLAG LAWS.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          My cousin is a /misc/tard, but not really, since he's never went on /misc/ once, he's more like, an edgy redditor, he does hold all the shill opinions though.
          >Ukraine is ruled by Nazi israelites
          >Putin just wanted to protect his borders
          He's a bit of a midwit too, kind of a shame, he's older than me, I looked up to him as a kid.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Simultaneously saying your enemies are controlled by israelites but also nazis is my favorite, they are like little kids just throwing everything into one insult

        There's something really amazing about how they can deadass insist that multiple mutually exclusive things are all true, and they do it with the conviction of a true believer rather than a sleazy PR flack. For example:
        >Russia stronk, check out our enormous Soviet stockpiles of war materiel and all of our doomsday weapons
        >and any nation even considering NATO membership is a hostile action that bullies poor defenseless Russia
        >that's because a sovereign state entering a self-defense pact is literally identical to a violation of Russian territorial integrity
        >Russia would NEVER break the peace by invading another country, and any evidence to the contrary was fabricated by a sinister Russophobic conspiracy, picrel
        >therefore any nation making arrangements for their own security is an act of unprovoked aggression against the pure and innocent Russian state, who wouldn't hurt a fly with its gargantuan nuclear arsenal
        >and that was why Russia, a nigh-pacifist entity that can be trusted to uphold international agreements, was forced to wipe their ass all over the Helsinki accords and invade Ukraine with the express intent of annexing it
        >which Russia would never ever do
        >(unless it was absolutely necessary because NATO did it first)
        >I think we can all agree that Russia is the victim here, now let us keep everything we steal or we're gonna noook

        It's just jaw-dropping.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/90JTSZr.jpg

          [...]
          [...]

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >85 years ago it was already "the *old story"

          Russia is stuck in some sort of time anomaly

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The Zone works in mysterious ways, comrade.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The Zone works in mysterious ways, comrade.

            you joke, but actually though

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Saltykov

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Can you blame him? He knew where things were going

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >deadass insist
          The frick is wrong with zoomer lingo?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            objectively it's not any worse than the boomer "no shit"

            He didn't speak, he didn't move, he didn't open his eyes. It was LITERALLY a Weekend at Bernie's style comedy sketch done unironically.

            typical of bloody Russia that they can't even AI animate the fricker, when AI porn parody voice-overs are already making the rounds on Tiktok

            backwards and lazy

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Simultaneously saying your enemies are controlled by israelites but also nazis is my favorite, they are like little kids just throwing everything into one insult

        https://i.imgur.com/DQEWnhe.jpg

        [...]
        There's something really amazing about how they can deadass insist that multiple mutually exclusive things are all true, and they do it with the conviction of a true believer rather than a sleazy PR flack. For example:
        >Russia stronk, check out our enormous Soviet stockpiles of war materiel and all of our doomsday weapons
        >and any nation even considering NATO membership is a hostile action that bullies poor defenseless Russia
        >that's because a sovereign state entering a self-defense pact is literally identical to a violation of Russian territorial integrity
        >Russia would NEVER break the peace by invading another country, and any evidence to the contrary was fabricated by a sinister Russophobic conspiracy, picrel
        >therefore any nation making arrangements for their own security is an act of unprovoked aggression against the pure and innocent Russian state, who wouldn't hurt a fly with its gargantuan nuclear arsenal
        >and that was why Russia, a nigh-pacifist entity that can be trusted to uphold international agreements, was forced to wipe their ass all over the Helsinki accords and invade Ukraine with the express intent of annexing it
        >which Russia would never ever do
        >(unless it was absolutely necessary because NATO did it first)
        >I think we can all agree that Russia is the victim here, now let us keep everything we steal or we're gonna noook

        It's just jaw-dropping.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          where is this from? surprisingly deep

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Bullshit

            Short book by a philosopher

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              thanks
              the last paragraph of that excerpt is very good

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Tell him that North Korea seems to invest quite a fair bit into their navy and still uses rockets with CEP of like 4km.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >4 km
        It's significantly better than that. Although do remember to mention that Norksander has been proven (by Russia itself ) to be superior to Iskander in every way in a direct side by side combat test.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Might be the reason the Norks can make new surface ships and submarines while Russia can't.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I mean, anyone can make that stuff if they siphon enough funds from your people to go into making weapons. The problem with Russia is that their siphoned fund go into oligarch pockets instead of making a big army

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They need Juche and some serious on the spot field guidance, not even joking. Actually making sure shit is getting done and counting your tires like Kim constantly does prevents people like Kim from stealing your stuff.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The problem is Russia is beyond the point of simply sending people and making sure shit gets done. Their factories are falling apart due to decades of negligence and money laundering. Do you remember that meeting when some advisor said it would take 4 years to meet Putin's requested threshold of production and Putin freaked out and demanded it be done in 6 months? They're actually screwed

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >simply sending people and making sure shit gets done
                Ah yes, the Potemkin village.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Russia want to be gangsta but Kim be like 'yo homie yo posse got no drip and someone stole the rims off yo ride' and Putin be like 'homie i know that was you that took them' and Kim be all 'you is tripping b***h' now you want some rock or not?'

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                God damn, I don't know why she's so fricking sexy. There's just something about her...I'm not even into asiatics either.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Power is attractive anon

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's honestly correct for pozziya
      Even at their peak their only overseas ally was Cuba

      The only thing is... if you have no navy you have to admit you're not a superpower... because power projecting across thr globe is what a superpower does.
      So puccia builds absolutely shit tier worthless navies that gain them nothing. Its an entire nation of four year olds and past time they ended.
      TZD

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Even at their peak their only overseas ally was Cuba
        That's not even true. They had allies in Asia (Vietnam) and Africa (Libya) and the Middle East (Israel for a while until they figured they could israelite more out of the U.S., Syria).

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We didn't NEEEEEEEED that navy

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >A dead zigger is a net positive financially. They're ridiculously expensive in onions while providing zero utility and generally just being a walking target.

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >1 tug boat "presumed" to have been sunk
    what... what happens if it isnt sunk

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >what... what happens if it isnt sunk

      In that case it continues to tug, you silly goose!

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >we didn't NEED our warships
    pottery

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >And soon Odessa will be Russia again.
    Z-DAY IS BACK ON THE MENU BOYS

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      God I wish they would

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Russia doesn't need these ships, they do not impact the war
      >Also they will invade and take Odessa
      MAKE UP YOUR MIND Black person, DAMN
      Like getting your gf to pick a restaurant, honestly.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Bcs both your girl and russians have borderline.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/sJDwZsq.jpg

      It was just a waste of ressources ackshually

      https://i.imgur.com/soBXUO2.png

      >Who the frick even is Will Schryver
      Oh, he's pure comedy, Anon. Imagine Armchair Copelord with the delusional tankie bullshit cranked up eleven. Picrel: this is a man who will spend Wednesday reiterating his unshakable confidence in the pompous garbage he spewed on Monday, no matter WHAT happens on Tuesday.
      He's so consistently and smugly up his own ass that I can't figure out if it's an elaborate troll or not.

      https://i.imgur.com/mpQFxOX.jpg

      >will schryver

      https://i.imgur.com/3YeHnXT.png

      New cope about the Black Sea Fleet just dropped

      Great job Will, good news! The contractors finally finished that dildo you wanted!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Let's evaluate some of these confident assertions from the esteemed Mr. Schryver:
      >All the Kalibrs are launched via BSF Missile ships.
      ALL of them ,Will? I'm pretty sure the Kilo class subs are the Kalibr workhorse, but picrel does seem to indicate that there's some Kalibr-capable BSF surface ships, and -- despite being classed as a "missile corvette" -- the Ivanovets wasn't one of them, being anti-ship rather than anti-apartment block.
      >Russian intel / patrol ships sail freely around the Black Sea.
      Will. Buddy. What part of the video you just saw looked like that patrol ship sailed freely anywhere other than straight to Davy Jones' locker? Russia has lost 20% of the 80 vessels in the BSF. Their best units are currently huddled in Novosibirsk to avoid further costly losses. They lost enough ships that they had to switch to plan B and mine the waterways. If these Russian sea and air patrols were so effective, how the frick did they lose the Moskva?
      >And Odessa will be Russian again.
      BWAAAAHHHHH-HAHAHAHAHA, are you fricking kidding me Show me the Russian plan to re-cross the river and occupy Kherson City again and I might actually consider this something other than copium-induced delusions of adequacy.

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ships destroyed in dock, or lakes, don't count.
    Planes and Helicopters destroyed on the ground don't count.
    Soldiers killed in their barracks don't count.
    These kinds of losses are all magically refunded and don't affect the war at all.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Obviously, if you lose them outside your base you need to send a recovery unit out to recoup their cost but they're auto-recovered if they're destroyed within the control radius of a supply depot, factory, barracks, or defensive building.

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm sorry, but did the Black Sea Fleat already lose? Oh, that's right. The special military operation isn't even over yet. In fact, it's only halftime. Does not having the lead at halftime count as a loss? Is that what you're saying? Because if you're saying that I can assure you that you're wrong. Why would you make this topic when the special military operation is still on? The Black Sea Fleat are still sailing right now and they have been the best fleet for how many years now? They're fighting one of the worst navies in the world who just happen to have a lead because they're feeding off the energy of sinking all our ships. But you know what? They still fricking suck. The Black Sea Fleat is one of the best fricking fleets in the world, they went 13-3 last century and would of won the war if Rozhestvensky didn't choke. Maybe you should shut the frick up before you make moronic topics like this. You know why? Because you're going to be embarrassed when the Black Sea Fleet wins and someone bumps this topic. Oh look at that, Hohols just wasted a dozen sea drones when they needed to hit only one, just like the Patriots did. Are you a fricking drunk? Are you moronic? Are you autistic? You are a fricking idiot and you should never make a topic on this board again and I'm fricking serious. I almost have a feeling you're the only guy making all these anti-Black Sea Fleet topics because you're a homosexual hater who doesn't like the navy because they're good. Frick you, be good at something in YOUR life and then maybe try to troll these fricking fleets on the board, like I give a frick. It's so easy to spot out your threads now, you're a moron. Always doing stupid shit like this. Why don't you try to be a good poster? Just for once? For once in your fricking life try not to make a topic like this. That's just you, you're always right at getting it wrong. Frick you. You are nothing.

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    And you just know that when this same homosexual reads about the latest Houthi incident where US had to use CIWS to shoot down a missile, he considers it a sign of US getting dethroned forever.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Literally the US captain: "Huh. CIWS. Never got to use that before, cool! What a mudhut dweller victory that, getting SO close they still have a 0% hit rate.".

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >militarily negligible
    yes, but only because Russian ships are maintained, operated, and exploited poorly.

    strategically however, losing dominion of the black sea will have pretty unknown ramification long term.

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When the ass is in the ass all will be understood

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I never though I'd miss a war criminal, but Prigozhin and his antics were genuinely entertaining.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >tfw we will never see a priggy-monke civil war with Wagner playing their symphonies across the burning St. Petersburg and Moscow skylines

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Don't feel too bad, there's still a solid chance of something as equally entertaining happening. The country might be balkanized yet.

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Oh boi, brace for another cope shitstorm, the Ukrainians just torched another oil refinery. In motherfricking Volgograd!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Volgograd
      Maybe they really do intend to finish what the nazis started

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      good

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >fleet was forced into port by a country without a navy
    >don’t worry guys it’s no big deal

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