NTA but in terms of their recent new releases its all been extremely derivative >keltec KSG >keltec SUB2k >CMMG AR-9 >Henry Dark
Im no smith hater, im a sincere 2.0 and revolver shill even with the locks, but they have been very uninspired recently. Their 5.7 is just barely getting a pass from me because of the locking system
>Dang, with their ad campaign i was hoping for something... unique?
They're literally harkening back to the first gun Horace and Dan made and you thought it'd be something new? Nah senpai.
NTA but in terms of their recent new releases its all been extremely derivative >keltec KSG >keltec SUB2k >CMMG AR-9 >Henry Dark
Im no smith hater, im a sincere 2.0 and revolver shill even with the locks, but they have been very uninspired recently. Their 5.7 is just barely getting a pass from me because of the locking system
They're just cornering the market on shit. S&W has such name recognition that newbies and boomers will flock to it. It's deserved though, for the most part they do make bomb-proof stuff.
The KSG and the M&P12 or whatever it's called have zero appeal to me >le Ithaca 37 bullpup
But between the two I'd trust the Smith first
>it's not .357
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
No shit. I got excited. I kick myself for not buying an 1894 CSBL when I could and have been waiting for them to come around. Long time coming: they only just finally started making 357 anyway.
Big Boy X is close but isn't stainless
This is close but isn't 357.
I place my bets on Smith coming out with this in 357 before Henry makes one in SS or Marlin finally re-releases the CSBL.
https://i.imgur.com/z39Wtqo.png
>Hey bro, can I copy your homework? >Sure, just change it a bit so it doesn't look obvious.
You do know the Henry rifle was originally made by New Haven Arms which was once known as Volcanic arms which was founded by Horace Smith and Daniel Wesson?
That's their whole (gay) marketing thing they did; to say the founders of their company from forever ago made the design first but under another company but the founder's ancestors don't own or run the current company anyway so...
gun companies usually release a less-popular version of a product so that their manufacturing line can spin up before releasing something more popular (.357)
>you have to choose between an ugly stainless polymer modern monstrosity, or pay THIRTY FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS for a collectors edition with wood
Pass for now.
>$1300-$3500 for a fricking tactitard lever action thats only available for .44 Rem
I like the M&P 15 so I’m not a S&W hater or anything, but this is just moronic. Especially after Ruger brought Marlin back.
I have been wanting a Marlin 1894 CST for a long time, hopefully they also release this in .357. I'd probably buy both of them tbh. Marlin needs to get its shit together. A stainless lever action with a threaded barrel and scope rail in common calibers are what I need.
Agreed on both counts, if you cannot have semis &/or are forced to hunt with straightwallsetc, they can be valid.
Also yeh steel looks almost as awful as the plastic does on them.
>why would S&W release a levergun
I think it's simply because their competitors have them. Henry joined the double action revolver market, Ruger acquired Marlin. Rossi does Revolvers again, has always had affordable leverguns.
>not .357 on launch day
fricking stupid
stop selling lever actions that aren't .357 or .44 magnum. zero purpose to any other calibers. .45-70 is fricking $1.30 right now
Insane pricing. I could see maybe 2k for the limited edition version, but bluing a gun and putting on even really nice wood furniture does not cost the manufacturer another TWO THOUSAND AND TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS and thus should not cost the consumer that much extra.
>crossbolt safety >stainless and plastic >tactihomosexual gay shit >limited model is $3500 >limit stock is polyurethane finish >gun steel is pvd black >copying marlin design when henry has already done so >only one caliber >removable magazine tube for storage lol?
is there a single good reason for this rifle to exist
Removable mag is nice for quickly and safely unloading the mag. Otherwise, not very useful.
Also it's factory threaded, which I wish more leverguns were.
Aside from those positives, I agree.
snoring irl. inb4 you respond to every negative reply calling them zoomers or complaining about ukraine.
back to the ukraine thread zoomer
Can S&W do ANYTHING that another company hasn’t done better, several times before? Can’t wait till they go out of business.
>Can S&W do ANYTHING that another company hasn’t done better
the M&P 2.0 is pretty much the best striker pistol on the market and S&W revolvers are still the best for their price range.
NTA but in terms of their recent new releases its all been extremely derivative
>keltec KSG
>keltec SUB2k
>CMMG AR-9
>Henry Dark
Im no smith hater, im a sincere 2.0 and revolver shill even with the locks, but they have been very uninspired recently. Their 5.7 is just barely getting a pass from me because of the locking system
I think you’re confusing Glock and Ruger products for inferior S&W ones again.
The "best" striker pistol that nobody buys. Why else is the price so low on them? Does s&w just hate money?
Dang, with their ad campaign i was hoping for something... unique?
>Dang, with their ad campaign i was hoping for something... unique?
They're literally harkening back to the first gun Horace and Dan made and you thought it'd be something new? Nah senpai.
They're just cornering the market on shit. S&W has such name recognition that newbies and boomers will flock to it. It's deserved though, for the most part they do make bomb-proof stuff.
The KSG and the M&P12 or whatever it's called have zero appeal to me
>le Ithaca 37 bullpup
But between the two I'd trust the Smith first
No shit. I got excited. I kick myself for not buying an 1894 CSBL when I could and have been waiting for them to come around. Long time coming: they only just finally started making 357 anyway.
Big Boy X is close but isn't stainless
This is close but isn't 357.
I place my bets on Smith coming out with this in 357 before Henry makes one in SS or Marlin finally re-releases the CSBL.
You do know the Henry rifle was originally made by New Haven Arms which was once known as Volcanic arms which was founded by Horace Smith and Daniel Wesson?
That's their whole (gay) marketing thing they did; to say the founders of their company from forever ago made the design first but under another company but the founder's ancestors don't own or run the current company anyway so...
It doesn't look like something made in 1854.
only 44mag? underwhelming
gun companies usually release a less-popular version of a product so that their manufacturing line can spin up before releasing something more popular (.357)
the only redemption here would be if they follow up with a 460 and 500 magnum version.
Marlin designed guns don't do good when you push pressures north of 40k psi.
>it's not .357
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
That doesn't look like something made in 1854?
>you have to choose between an ugly stainless polymer modern monstrosity, or pay THIRTY FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS for a collectors edition with wood
Pass for now.
>threaded
HMMMMMMMMMM
>$1300-$3500 for a fricking tactitard lever action thats only available for .44 Rem
I like the M&P 15 so I’m not a S&W hater or anything, but this is just moronic. Especially after Ruger brought Marlin back.
I have been wanting a Marlin 1894 CST for a long time, hopefully they also release this in .357. I'd probably buy both of them tbh. Marlin needs to get its shit together. A stainless lever action with a threaded barrel and scope rail in common calibers are what I need.
Its a Henry X model with Marlin stocks. HURRAY!
Now 3rd on my list after an OD green KS7 and a 5" nickel plated Chiappa Rino.
>Hey bro, can I copy your homework?
>Sure, just change it a bit so it doesn't look obvious.
Bland, souless, and perhaps above all fricking ghey.
Lever actions are for the yeehaw, and you cant yeehaw with a plastic stock.
Would be great alternative to AR in commie states.
I don't like the stainless look.
Agreed on both counts, if you cannot have semis &/or are forced to hunt with straightwallsetc, they can be valid.
Also yeh steel looks almost as awful as the plastic does on them.
So did they shit themselves when Ruger re-released the Marlin 1894 and it was good?
No 357 meh.
Unironically would have thrown marlin into a tissy
>why would S&W release a levergun
I think it's simply because their competitors have them. Henry joined the double action revolver market, Ruger acquired Marlin. Rossi does Revolvers again, has always had affordable leverguns.
Pretty sure this is a Hillary Hole, so I will not be buying one.
>not .357 on launch day
fricking stupid
stop selling lever actions that aren't .357 or .44 magnum. zero purpose to any other calibers. .45-70 is fricking $1.30 right now
Tell me why I shouldn’t get a .44 Mag Rossi R92 in ACTUAL stainless steel for a lot less coin?
(I already have an R92 stainless in .357 and II’s a joy to shoot and handy as hell. Also cost me $600 NIB).
I'd recommend the R92 for the simple fact the gun it's based upon is better designed.
kek I have one and was thinking of another in .357. Not stainless though.
CZ should start making Colt Burgess rifles.
>cross bolt safety on a levergat
Just frick off
frick you sootch
$3500msrp
lol.....lmao even
For that money I'd rather buy a nice antique lever gun.
Insane pricing. I could see maybe 2k for the limited edition version, but bluing a gun and putting on even really nice wood furniture does not cost the manufacturer another TWO THOUSAND AND TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS and thus should not cost the consumer that much extra.
>crossbolt safety
>stainless and plastic
>tactihomosexual gay shit
>limited model is $3500
>limit stock is polyurethane finish
>gun steel is pvd black
>copying marlin design when henry has already done so
>only one caliber
>removable magazine tube for storage lol?
is there a single good reason for this rifle to exist
Removable mag is nice for quickly and safely unloading the mag. Otherwise, not very useful.
Also it's factory threaded, which I wish more leverguns were.
Aside from those positives, I agree.