Are the Russian/Belarusian insurgent groups in Ukraine actually going to become a threat to the monke regime? The SBU openly says they WANT them to take territory permanently.
Wagner fighters defecting
Are the Russian/Belarusian insurgent groups in Ukraine actually going to become a threat to the monke regime? The SBU openly says they WANT them to take territory permanently.
Allying with war criminals? Expected from nazis tbh.
If there ever is a Russian civil conflict the "Freedom of Russia Legion" is going to lose because they're too busy trying to look good to western press. Radicals like the RDK meanwhile do not give a frick. Kind of like Jihadists in Syria, actually.
Yeah, being so edgy to the point of being hated even by the fricking Taliban worked out great for ISIS, right?
Reminded me of the ISIS Taliban conflict.
Really funny as heck when they rolled up to the Taliban, expecting alliance only to be shot at.
>, expecting alliance
are you a fricking moron or just talking out your butthole? ISIS was always antagonistic to the Taliban because they didn't recognize them as the true caliphate.
The Taliban are so fricking baller that they have their own navy in a landlocked mountain country. What does ISIS have? 2 goats and a shed somewhere outside of Raqqa?
A good chunk of Africa for starters.
Worldwide shiite militant strength approx 3 million. How?
Worldwide, shiites number approx. 200 million. If you take the (optimistic, high) ratio of militants in Gaza as representative, with 30 thousand militants per 2 million population, then you get 3 million shiite militants worldwide.
In other words, even if Israel eliminates every shia militant in Gaza, that is only 10% of the total number of shiite militants in the world today (not counting members of professional military of Iran, Afghanistan, etc) ONLY the militants
A lot of those militants and military capacity is tied up with fighting or counterbalancing several other major forces like sunni militant forces or countries or western forces too. Syria, iraq, and lebanon is a great example of them tied up in several other power struggles and delicate balance between other armed political forces.
Also a significant amount of shias are smaller minorities in other countries and don't have as much access to weapons to raise forces. And you even get weird pockets of shias like the azeri who are surprisingly very pro-israeli
It is important to note that not all jihadist groups are allied with ISIS in Syria. HTS, previously Al Queda, is fighting against ISIS. They are also allied with Turkey lol
Being bombed on a daily basis by the US is what fricked over ISIS. Who is bombing RDK? Not the US… that should tell you everything you need to know about their potential success in the short term
Who was employing him before he defected? Under who's command he commited those war crimes?
Other russians. What I'm saying is that all pro-Russia factions are the same rapey mobiks, nazis and murderers
This is called whataboutism. It is a coping mechanism or a means to slide a conversation.
Why is some Nigerian-British rapper in the Russian Volunteer Corps?
Neo-Nazi stuff in Ukraine doesn't mean you're an actual Nazi, it's like people in India calling a restaurant the Hitler Pizza Bread House. It's just a way to let people know you've got history's all-time greatest badass coming through
Ok, I don't want to be a wet blanket here, but do we really want the future pro-western Russian states to be led by society's outcasts?
They are avenging their murderd leader.
The goal is Russian societal collapse on the scale of Liberia.
depends on how bad the society is
>led by society's outcasts
that would be an improvement
Sounds about russia
Russia is so fricked their outcasts are comparatively normal.
>society's outcasts
Normally probably not. It is Russian society we are talking about here.
Russian outcasts are the people with both conscience and brains.
The people responsible for toppling a regime rarely hold power for a substantial amount of time. These dudes are going to start the civil war in Russia, but at the end of it I'd wager some western-oriented oligarch will win out. Probably a CIA approved one
>The people responsible for toppling a regime rarely hold power for a substantial amount of time
This.
If anything, it's a convenient way to purge Wagner and make sure they don't take power after the Kremlin regime falls.
Though I'd be pretty worried about them spying for FSB since Wagner started as an FSB deniable ops outfit and there's bound to be close connections still.
You just use an RNG to select a group of them and say they're forming a unit. Then you torture them until they die to find out if you're dealing with a group of spies. Blow up their barracks and blame Rusnigs and call it good. If they're clean, you can use them in combat. If they're dirty, you just round up the rest and torture them all for intelligence. What is the FSB gonna do, admit to perfidy and ask what happened to their spies?
nikitin seems like a good leader to me, how much worse can it get after all the leaders that already were in russia
>but do we really want the future pro-western Russian states to be led by society's outcasts?
If anything Russian states being led by warlords and hobo-chieftains means they are returning to their true roots
couldn't be worse than KGB kleptocrats
and anyone can redeem themselves if given the opportunity
I'd be willing to see how it goes.
The current situation is rather undesirable, perhaps it would be a change for the better.
Perhaps it will be a problem in the future, but it's a preferable problem to the one we have now.
russian state?
I just want a spaceship with an amiable Russian helmsman, however we get there.
If the outcasts in question were the intelligentsia, sure, but militarists so unpredictable that even Putin doesn't want they is a bit worrying.
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hope they get executed after the welcoming tiktok.
TZD means TZD
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you too anon.
TZD means TZD no matter where you live now.
You are a no guns war tourist, mind broken by the "current thing".
isnt this a thread about the current thing homie? 😀
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Frick off.
Nah, anon, RVC are the same rejects probably. I just hope they kill enough russians before they themselves are taken out.
>Are the Russian/Belarusian insurgent groups in Ukraine actually going to become a threat
No. Way too few of them
Maybe a domino affect?
I honestly don't know, I don't know how fricked russian society is to think this is a good idea.
She returns?
More of the bawd. More shiny costumes.
Have more anon
Last one
Who?
>Lera the Russian opposition/resistance
>Next to her is Paulinka her Belarusian counterpart
Who is the cutie second from the left? Short blonde girl? I want to make her my wife
Paulinka
Yummy…
>Lerochka became the one character that is equally hated by both sides. Ukrainians hate her for symbolizing the average self-proclaimed Russian liberal, who does nothing helpful, and Russians hate her for symbolizing a traitor to Russia.
Imagine being Russian...
>is Wagner still a threat to monke?
Remember the videos from Rostov on don when they took the city? When was the last time you saw that kind of reaction to normal Russian soldiers. The remnants of Wagner avenging their boss would have a ton of legitimacy to the average Russian. Hell, even I’d begrudgingly respect that. It would be a modern 47 ronin esque story with a Russian twist (HIV)
It would have been, except for all the crimes against humanity Wagnerites and Storm Ziggers are guilty of.
>47 Ronin, but instead of all of them taking their lives at the command of the Shogun they are sentenced to death by The Hague
Ukraine has to keep these guys on a tight leash right?
>Volunteer
Shit I’m moronic I thought it meant Russian Army
Probably not unless they somehow start operating inside Moscow region, and even then its a maybe
They’re definitely spies lol
After what wagnerites did to ukrainian civvies and soldiers, the only thing I'd expect from them deserting to Ukraine is public quartering
Anon, when a barbarian horde invades and you can somehow spin one of their tribes back against the others, you do it. You'd be foolish not to. The Romans did this many times and while few of their alliances held long-term (several interesting exceptions btw) it certainly contributed to their military control over the centuries. It's a tested and proven idea.
got any reading on those exceptions? sounds interesting
nta, but I remember the Batavi being longtime allies of Rome, though they did revolt once, inflicting pretty heavy losses on the Romans and getting a peace deal with relatively favorable terms iirc
Why hasn't all of Russia defected.
They think their odds are better fighting Ukraine. They also are still hoping for loot to steal, c**t to rape, and land to shit their children onto when they 'win.' This is why the chinky churka marches blithely to its death, greed and confidence in their khan.
Because if your own people routinely sodomize you then just imagine what the enemy would do
>ever-shifting loyalties of large mercenary companies
How did slavs manage to fight a medieval conflict in 2023??
>Are the Russian/Belarusian insurgent groups in Ukraine actually going to become a threat to the monke regime?
I can see it being supported behind closed doors by US intelligence agencies.
You already have a good degree of plausible deniability with the current situation.
>We didn't know the weapons would end up in the hands of revolutionaries hell bent on overthrowing the current Russian regime, and it's not like we can just stop supporting Ukraine at this point
I'm certainly not implying this is all secretly the work of the CIA, it's likely just a happy accident that's presented an opportunity to put through a regime change in a very unstable region.
We all saw how porous the border is so they are already a threat. If you're talking about whether or not they can seize territory then probably not on their own. However it would be in Ukraine's best interest to have a compliant Russian breakaway region next door. Belarus groups are a much bigger threat to Luka as the populace isn't happy with him, the military basically said they weren't going to die for him, and there exists an established political order in exile that could function as a transitional government that already has the support of several Euro nations.
Luka is probably going to be assassinated by the burgers or Bongs should Russia go into crisis and the opportunity present itself. He's widely despised and a brutal and ignominious death like Gaddafi's would remind other thirdies of what happens when you get uppity.
I doubt either would be direct trigger-pullers and there would be a political/optics benefit to having him put on trial. More likely I see him splitting to some country without extradition treaties if things start getting hot.
Ah yes, the feared Boris Jhohnson SAS squad. The frick are you talking about? Nobody cares about him, and without russian support he's finished anyway.
>Nobody cares about him
Belarusians rather do. Permanent isolation of Russia is the goal for this sorry affair, and for that Luka will either die, be bought out, or be compelled to flee and hide in some Arab shithole. Improved relations with Belarus will also favor the EU, they can strengthen economic cooperation, close the country to Mohammedian migrants, and source cheap labor of a non-Arab persuasion. Both Ukraine and Poland have very concrete reasons to want Luka gone and Belarus civilized.
Ah yes, more fricking moronic propaganda bullshit. Can you keep this on /misc/ at least offtopic homo?