Waffen SS war conduct

Were they really worse than the normal army when it came to POWs?

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Probably depends on the unit. One like the British Free Corps were probably humane in accordance to Anglo standards but if you get captured by the Dirlewanger Boys then you're probably getting brutally tortured.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Dirlewanger Boys
      Sounds like a great time

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not really. It wasn't a written policy but for example during the Normandy campaign Kurt Meyer set off a pretty vicious series of tit for killings with the Canadians after he ordered a bunch of their POWs executed, to the point that there was a Canadian officer who recorded an order he got from his Colonel in a diary: "No prisoners below major." The Hitlerjugend would eventually be transferred over to fight the Americans who called it 'the Murder Division' and had the same attitude towards prisoners

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Well the Americans weren't so hot on taking German soldiers POW either.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chenogne_massacre

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >whatabout this one incident!!
          >this is exactly the same as my army-wide executive orders and specially-formed massacre units!!

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            However, according to George Henry Bennett, "The caveat is a little disingenuous", and he notes that it is likely orders given by the U.S. 328th Infantry Regiment to shoot prisoners were carried out, and that other US regiments were likely given similar orders.[9] But the killing of SS prisoners had become routine at the time for some units. The 90th Infantry Division at the Saar "executed Waffen-SS prisoners in such a systematic manner late in December 1944 that headquarters had to issue express orders to take Waffen-SS soldiers alive so as to be able to obtain information from them".[10]

            Just the one incident you say.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              NTA, but I don't give a shit what happened to the SS. The only regret is that we didn't kill their entire lineages and that Germany still exists.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Good morning sar

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >ur indian
                Nope, not Indian. Just a guy who doesn't really give a shit what happens to the people fighting for a country that declared war on mine.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                thank you
                (and come again)

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Maybe if you call me an Indian again it will bring back all the dead Germans and unrape their women.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I only called you an indian once sir.
                I am very sorry people died and were raped in one particular war sir
                Is there a reason this one is special?
                Did they blow up the shitting street?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I really cannot stress enough how pathetic you look.
                >oh no people don't like their mass murdering enemies?!?!?!?
                >they must be Indian!!!!

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >crying because ancestors were mass murdered makes you special
                >trying to advocate for mass murder of other people
                Very good sir I agree with your logic.
                But sir this is very rude tone to be taking with a fellow countryman.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >trying to advocate for mass murder of mass murderers
                FTFY, and yes, they deserved it. Now imply I'm an Indian again. It will surely reverse time and make your favorite genocidal dictator the victor.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >how dare my ancestors be indiscriminately killed!
                >the ones who happened to be in the same geographic area or related to this must also be indiscriminately killed!
                >NO I AM NOT A BUTTHURT TURDIE! >:C
                Thank you for your passionate words, sir.
                They bring me great joy as I squat in the shitting street.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >youre thirdworld
                No, I'm not. I live in America, you know, the country that defeated Germany. I don't even really understand why you picked India. They like hitler over there.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the country that defeated germany

                Bubba ray has been watching them movies again

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ohh, now I am hillbilly. Yeah America defeated Germany. They were part of the Allies, who won the war.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                being a moron doesn't make you a hillbilly.
                plenty of uneducated hicks can be found in college.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Damn I guess I got it wrong and America lost the war. Oh wait.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >straight up diving DEEP into hyperbolic moronation out of seething rage
                calm down, tard.
                I realize that finding out how stupid you are is upsetting, but sperging out and crying about anyone arguing with you is a nazi

                >how dare my ancestors be indiscriminately killed!
                >the ones who happened to be in the same geographic area or related to this must also be indiscriminately killed!
                >NO I AM NOT A BUTTHURT TURDIE! >:C
                Thank you for your passionate words, sir.
                They bring me great joy as I squat in the shitting street.

                or that they are saying germany won
                is more pathetic than whatever fantasies you have cooked up.
                touch grass, loser.
                Or go shit on a street.

                https://i.imgur.com/4dBMdFe.jpg

                >America, you know, the country that defeated Germany

                Waiting at the finish line to declare victory is not the same as actually defeating the Wehrmacht, over 80% of which perished in the Soviet Union.

                soviets didn't lose ONLY because of America, stay out of this

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >soviets didn't lose ONLY because of America,

                Frick no.
                They had stopped the Wehrmacht by themselves in the winter of 41/42.
                American factories only helped speed up Soviet victory.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                nice LARP, your best general said different, frick off now, loser.

                Damn I guess I got it wrong and America lost the war. Oh wait.

                tell me more about how everyone against you is a nazi and thinks germany won.
                I am fascinated by this line of argument, bubba-anon.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Well theyre saying America didn't defeat Germany, but they fought Germany and didn't lose to Germany so I guess they defeated them

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So my current theory is some loser is just trying to start shit.
                so they started out as "america", then switched to being russia when they fricked up and started using "progressive" arguing
                so now they want to shit about trying to LARP about how the Soviets would have won things on their own.

                >"they"
                suuuure pal.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                America defeated Imperial Japan.
                The Soviet Union and to a much lesser extent, the British (like 5% of the effort), defeated Germany.

                Simple as.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Dang I guess America wasn't present in North Africa, Italy, France, Belgium, and then later in Germany itself.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Dang I guess America wasn't present in North Africa, Italy, France, Belgium, and then later in Germany itself.

                Correct.
                If you scale the US contribution against the backdrop of the colossal Eastern Front, it's a barely noticeable fraction.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That doesn't change the fact that America defeated them. They didn't do it alone and I claimed they did it alone, even Brazil can claim to have defeated Germany in a war.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                *did not claim.
                Sorry posting from shitter.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >That doesn't change the fact that America defeated them.

                Yes it does, because America had less contribution to defeating Germany than Britain did.
                You could also say France defeated Germany then because they were part of the Western front for a while.

                Did France defeat Germany?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >less contribution to defeating Germany than Britain did.
                lmao dude
                >Did France defeat Germany?
                Yes, the French did contribute to the defeat of Germany

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                given how ineffective the resistance largely was, even at basic intelligence gathering, that is a VERY strong claim.
                unless you mean the guys that joined up with other groups, like the poles did.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Both, and I didn't claim it was a large contribution but they contributed all the same.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >no they werent there
                >yes they were
                indians just can't figure out english despite all that time britain had to teach them, kek

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >to a much lesser extent, the British (like 5% of the effort), defeated Germany
                wrong
                in France, the Commonwealth forces faced the bulk of the German panzers and destroyed three times more than the US forces did
                the Royal Navy destroyed more than half the Kriegsmarine's Uboats and practically all their surface ships
                the RAF shot down a third of the Axis aircraft claimed by the Allies, including the Pacific theatre, and half of all the fighters claimed

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                counting the guys who surrendered doesn't mean jack shit

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >y-y-you can't just CAPTURE your opponents, it doesn't count!!
                ironic, considering this is the warcrime thread

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >entire nation surrenders
                >anon instead rants about
                >WHAT DO YOU MEAN I CANT CAPTURE
                sure, dude

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the figures I quoted come from Wehrmacht records up to about March 1945, when they were still capable of taking records and before the whole "let's surrender to the Americans instead of the Soviets" mentality began

                >Commonwealth
                >British
                Curious.

                Empire, b***h

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >continues to ignore the point in favor of a new cope
                moron

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                well, try framing that in proper sentences then, because yes I can't grasp what's left of your meme-riddled vodka-sodden brain is trying to convey

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >duh.... explain it all better because I am moronic and can't scroll up
                No.
                Go frick off and play in the sand, fricknugget.
                >A NEW COPE EMERGES
                So first people are nazis, and now they are vatniks?
                Very subtle, dumbass.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I didn't say you were a Nazi, you jumped to that conclusion all by yourself
                You are however deepthroating the Soviet Union pretty voraciously, so what else am I supposed to think?
                Either way, you've switched to the very Sovietesque firehose of falsehood method to cover up the lack of substance in your refuted posts so the discussion is clearly over

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >full on admits he was samegayging this entire time
                good fricking job dumbfrick
                nice job outing yourself in your own moronation.
                thank you (and come again) apu

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Commonwealth
                >British
                Curious.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I can see the benis :DDD

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Very good sir I also immigrated.
                My city is very nice with many shitting streets and a beautiful big bridge.
                But sir I still do not understand what is so special and why you are crying about "my favorite dictator"
                >I don't even really understand why you picked India
                Oh sir I did not realize you were a newcomer!
                Welcome my brother to this place.
                They will not like you.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >America, you know, the country that defeated Germany

                Waiting at the finish line to declare victory is not the same as actually defeating the Wehrmacht, over 80% of which perished in the Soviet Union.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Which would not have happened without American logistical aid and without western allies invading.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Which would not have happened without American logistical aid

                Producing things for profit =/= defeating the Wehrmacht.
                It took people, lots and lots of Slavic people to defeat the Wehrmacht.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                thats because soviets are nearly as dumb as

                Damn I guess I got it wrong and America lost the war. Oh wait.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >over 80% of which perished in the Soviet Union.
                wrong
                the statistic is that 80% (about 4 million) of the Wehrmacht's casualties on the Eastern front were KIA, and 20% POW (1 million)
                in terms of manpower about half of the Wehrmacht's casualties were East (5 million) and half the casualties West (5 million)
                the Soviets were highly inefficient in fighting the Axis

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >your favorite genocidal dictator
                Julius Caesar?
                No one is talking about rome right now, Apu.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >were likely
              aka "I don't actually know but it makes the problem sound bigger"
              >one division which received explicit orders to cut it out
              as opposed to the entire Wehrmacht being placed under Fuhrer Directive 46, just to cite one

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              How about you don't start shit you can't finish. See

              Yeah, that happened because the Germans did it to them first.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malmedy_massacre

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              They deserved every bullet.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >army-wide executive orders and specially-formed massacre units
            made up by the USSR and israeli intelligentsia

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Well you got your Israel, congrats.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, that happened because the Germans did it to them first.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malmedy_massacre

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I visited that abbey last summer. Wonder how he didn't get drowned in a keg of beer by Canadians after the war. He got away with it due to the average cowardice of the Canadian government.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How do you think the 1st Frei Strassensheisser Battalion would've treated POWs?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        force them to poo in loo

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >One like the British Free Corps were probably humane in accordance to Anglo standards
      The British Free Corps, all 9 of them? Did they even fight in any front?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >British Free Corps

      there were like 4 of them and they never fired a shot.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    [...]

    It's Armatard or one of vatnik seethers, give OP a chance and he will be crying hardly on zelensky.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    [...]

    These people would have you believe they are the mature ones itt.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    when the british ruled India they simply executed more than 1,000 civilians because they would not comply. But let's forget about those inconvenient times like when the US Army gunned down all the native americans, but those ebil nazis ohhh. The nazis had the best uniforms.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what
      about
      america

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Anglos allied with the communists who purposely killed 5-7 mil people only in Holodomor.

        What are we even talking about. They had commies doing the dirty job for them.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Only 1,000? Over longer than a century? I didn't know the british were so measured and reasonable.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >when the british ruled India they simply executed more than 1,000 civilians
      This statement isn't wrong, but it's a really weird way to quantify it. That's like saying a strategic nuke is capable of destroying an entire house.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >british ruled India they simply executed more than 1,000 civilians
      Nope - self-evidently, if the raj were that disproportionately unjust it wouldn't have lasted as long as it did, bearing in mind massive ratio of Indian population

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Nazis killed WAY more than both of them. So stifle it.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I mean, technically speaking no, not at all.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        moron. The average British-engineered famine in India killed more people than the entire "holocaust".

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          "people"

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Seeing as he's the moron, surely it would be easy to prove this.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    By and large they did nothing wrong.

    Furthermore Moscow must be destroyed.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Those quads don't lie.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      witnessed, this will be the final year of the zigger "empire" and a new white age

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Considering that the Heer was largely responsible for administering POW camps and that conditions in these camps were so appalling that 2 out of 3 Soviet prisoners were dead by the end of the war, I’d say the Waffen-SS weren’t particularly all that worse at least on the policy level. The SS were noticeably more prone to massacring POWs for sport in the West as early as 1940, but the numbers are honestly chump change compared to the Eastern Front where massacres of a larger scale were an almost daily occurrence.

      On one hand, the SS displayed a penchant for both criminal behavior and criminal incompetence with great frequency.

      On the other hand, you have quads and are calling for TZD and I honestly can’t argue with that.

      https://i.imgur.com/dcC5n5S.jpg

      They were the good guys.
      Just look at what unrestricted Judasim has done to the USA.

      >israelites gave us Red Lobster and Krispy Kreme

      They’ve already done more for the good of humanity than any National Socialist moron

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Quads don't lie

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      there's a fascinating cognitive dissonance with globohomosexual supporters effectively admitting Hitler was right about Russians but still coping by accepting the rest of the WWII narrative. Wonder when a large number of people will start to accept we chose the wrong side and that Hitler was right about everything else? Zoomers seem to be getting the message, only boomers refuse to accept reality

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        if those kids could read they would be really mad.jpg

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >People who get their news from tik tok and unsourced infographics believe stupid shit
        What a fricking surprise.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >"It's stupid to believe that the only historical event that can land you in prison for questioning it might be over-exaggerated in the extent to which it is portrayed to have occurred.
          Interesting logic. Even without the "infographics" and "tik tok", it would be just as questionable as any other event, especially considering that one ethnic group seems to really enjoy milking it for all the pity points it's worth whenever people level a just criticism towards them.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >the only historical event that can land you in prison for questioning
            Sorry, but I live in a non-shit country. I don't know what you're referring to. You are still a fricking brain-broken homosexual, though.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              So you don't live in the western world, good to know, thirdie. How's the HIV rate over there, Ivan?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I live in the US, you know, the leader of the free world. Nice try, noguns moron.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What POW's?

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not sure what you mean. When POW were captured at all at the front they were sent back to German rear lines where whatever second line unit was in charge of POWs dealt with them. This could be a Wehrmacht or SS or even other branch unit that had a certain book of rules to follow. The book was not the same from area to area though. Some places the prisoners were simply put into the camp to hunger to death. Other places they were put to hard work.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    SS combat camo > power gap > officer uniforms
    and /misc/ obsession over the officer aesthetic is borderline gay
    there i said it

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How about officers in camo?

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Hey, dont lie, every now and then we all feel kind of… chuddy.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The SS was an armed branch of the nazi party so they didn’t have to abide by the Geneva conventions

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They were the good guys.
    Just look at what unrestricted Judasim has done to the USA.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You did this to yourselves.
      >but but walkability is israeli socialism waaaah

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Judaism is when McDonalds, Krispy Kreme, Red Lobster, and fat people
      Go back, kid

      [...]

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        None of those exist in countries were Judaism was suppressed.

        Check mate, KIDF.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          ESL post

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Daily reminder that Americans are ESL by default.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >omits Spanish and English

              So like, you took away the two most predominant languages. I don't get what that proves. What country are you from Pablo/Abu?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You're brown

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >fat people
          >None of those exist in countries were Judaism was suppressed.
          >/pol/estainians is in top 5 most obese people in the world
          Lol lmao even.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >FRICK YOU MOM, I'M NOT GOING TO RED LOBSTER WITH YOU!
          >WHY? BECAUSE... BECAUSE THE israeliteS CREATED IT, THAT'S WHY!

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >has done to the USA
      Turned us into first world kings?

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'll go even further to say that every German who served in the SS should've been executed without trial by the war's end. Germany should've completely partitioned and the right to self-governance should have never been restored to Germans.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Good morning sar

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They were shocktroopers and not regular soldiers. It varied on the units since some like Dirlewanger's were mad dog units. Some of them were suppose to scare the shit out of the enemy and locals so that they would surrender quickly and get managed by the regular army.

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Slaughter POWs and civilians
    >Ja! Very based!
    >Enemy stops taking you prisoner because of this
    >ACK! NEIN! WARCRIMES!
    The German cries out in pain as he strikes you

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >only evidence of war crimes comes from tortured soldiers granted immunity for lying and Polish communists provided by the Soviets
      nice justice system rabbi

      >While in prison in Quebec, Helzel revealed that in June 1944 Meyer had directed his troops to take no prisoners. On the stand, however, Helzel denied that Meyer made such a declaration
      >The prosecution’s central witness, however, was Polish soldier Jan Jesionek

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >only evidence of war crimes comes from tortured soldiers granted immunity for lying and Polish communists provided by the Soviets

        But enough about the Volksgerichtshof

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What are good WW2 movies that highlight German equipment?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Apollo 13 (1995)

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they did some war crimes on the western front and mostly paid for it in war crimes tribunals or field retributions.

    on the eastern front however, their conduct was well within acceptable limits on how you should deal with russians

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They were too kind to the soviets

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    so I guess dumbfrick stopped being russian to be french

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Considering that the Allies redefined Germans as "disarmed enemy combatants" as a workaround for avoiding "warcrimes" (such as when ~~*Eisenhower*~~ allowed over a million captives to die of starvation/thirst/exposure) I'd say that they were no worse than the folks that they were fighting.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >allowed over a million captives to die of starvation
      More lies by /misc/-tier homosexual "historians" like James Bacque.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >allowed over a million captives to die of starvation/thirst/exposure
      Only that many? Rookie numbers, it should have been more than that.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Enjoy getting replaced by feral third world savages, Anatoly :^)

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    careful everyone, it seems that one vicious pole is on the loose in this thread!

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they lost the war, that was the only crime

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not really. They just lost so the winners could portrait them as the objectively evil torturers and the allies could be the force of good and reason and sunshine. The realistic view at the war is that all parties are responsible and committed a myriad of inhumane crimes. But good people, human beings exist in the middle and sometimes uphold moralic standards.

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    well i think looking at the standard warcrime per person ratio i think the waffen ss would probably "loose"

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