I wonder if this will be a piston gun, or just another blowback piece of trash, having a 9mm piston gun (even if it's long stroke instead of short stroke) on the amrket other than the mpx would be pretty based
The ar 18 action is short-stroke, which isn't blowback, I assume you mean an ar-18 styled upper not action. it would go with their ar-15 and AK- style blowback 9mm's, but would be kind of silly for it
their video from this morning says it's blowback- the spring setup with probably be ar-18ish, that's fair enough. the bolt is gonna be a be a non rotating big chunk cause blowback
4 months ago
Anonymous
This is what the Mat9 parts are. This jakl shouldn't be too different.
Basically yeah, if any company makes a knockoff BR that actually looks the part then they are going to sell more of them than every other bullpup that any company has ever made combined.
>Basically yeah, if any company makes a knockoff BR that actually looks the part then they are going to sell more of them than every other bullpup that any company has ever made combined.
People always say this shit but the truth is that like 10 people would buy it and it'd be $3000
This. Who the frick even gives a shit about Halo, shits a dead franchise and it has been for at least 5 years.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Who the frick even gives a shit about Halo
Millennials that just started making real money and have nostalgia. The age of 50 shades of the same 1911 is over. Vidya gay gun clam shells are coming.
You’re honestly a fricking moron if you believe this.
Nobody cares about Halo anymore except for boomers trying to relive their Halo 2 in highschool days.
PSA is correct is making a bullpup platform around things they already own and make themselves. Cant wait to throw my 10.5 upper on a bullpup lower for the Lols
Can someone fricking explain to me why moronic mongoloid, lower thant worm IQ Black person cattle gun """"""""""""""DESIGNERS"""""""""""""" always decide to come up with a brilliant idea to put random fricking cutouts and holes onto everything. Just look at the 9mm jack, WHATS THE FRICKING POINT THERE'S 4 OF THEM LITERALLY. FRICK THESE PEOPLE they have actual brain damage.
Duh anon, we are in the future now! Just wait until 2050 when so much is cut out that there isnt even a gun there anymore and everyone is just playing pretend like children again.
I hate superfluous Lamborghini lines too. But I wonder if the upper would just look stupid if it was totally flat and smooth with no lines breaking it up
How is it even possible that one company can be so extremely based??????
If these come at around $300 im going to fricking cream myself
https://i.imgur.com/u3qIgBD.jpg
$999 targeted MSRP, early 2025 targeted release, and binary triggers for this and the rock confirmed to be in development as well makes this the star of shot show for me by an extremely long mile
.308 Jakl from PSA would be moronic
BUT, there aren't any real piston .308 options at that price range at all. XCR, LMT, Bren 2 and other piston .308 start at a cool $2,400.
>why would that be moronic?
Because the regular jakl in wimpy 5.56 falls apart. Add a real cartridge like .308 and those screws will pop themselves out after one shot. If you took a fricking second to look at it, you'd see the Jakl is covered in screws. Screws walk out.
>Because the regular jakl in wimpy 5.56 falls apart.
where have you heard this lmao? I own a jakl upper that ive put around 2000 rounds through, no issues so far. unlike the FN that rattles optics to death only hundreds of rounds and voids warranties for suppressor use. most every jakl owner ive talked to has had similar experiences to me.
Jakl is covered in screws which makes it shit for serious us. That other moron that claimed his was great probably only has about 100rounds through it. I believe the owners that have put thousands of rounds testing it on youtube and a large portion of them say it falls apart. The extractor fails, the feeding fails, the gas block comes undone and various screws fall out.
Look at SCAR 17 you say has the same problem. Only two visible screws. TWO and they aren't important to the function of the gun. You need to take a pry bar and unhinge that PSA dick sucking jaw. PSA does not make quality, reliable guns. They make cool toys with short shelf life.
Locktite doesn't last forever. Never does, just the fact that you bring this up shows me you don't know what you're talking about it. All the locktite I've used doesn't last forever. I have two tubes in my tool box at all time. There are more permanent better solutions like calk, super glue or red loctite but I don't use them because I feel that would ruin my guns.
i cant believe i fell for such moronic bait in 2016+8
Locktite doesn't last forever. Never does, just the fact that you bring this up shows me you don't know what you're talking about it. All the locktite I've used doesn't last forever. I have two tubes in my tool box at all time. There are more permanent better solutions like calk, super glue or red loctite but I don't use them because I feel that would ruin my guns.
>There are more permanent better solutions like... red loctite >but I don't use them because I feel that would ruin my guns.
Holy kek. This is bait, right?
kek i hope they release sabres with hodge rails, gun-instagram influencers and drop culture clowns will probably hang themselves. hodge defense is now poverty tier
Yeah I heard as much in reviews. I don’t disagree.
Tbh pdw calibers are better in mp7 type guns. An appropriate barrel length for 9mm makes the gun too short and cluttered. Something like 7-10” works better so a smaller caliber with more powder behind it makes more sense. 5.7 and 4.6 are still underwhelming though, a 30 carbine necked down to whatever would be better. Possibly hybrid case. Or maybe 7.5 FK.
I'm not a big fan of PDW calibers in general. 9mm would be a cheaper to shoot plinker and more practical IMO. Since it would pretty much be a cheap range toy I should just get a SP33 and put the Farrow Tech chassis on it.
People have no idea how absolutely garbage this thing is going to be. >brace rails that will flex >shitty 5.7 round >built of their poverty 5.7 pistol >the low level autism rail placement >its a fricking semi-auto pdw
this abomination is further proof that god is dead or never existed to begin with.
>the low level autism rail placement
If you actually watched any videos on the thing then you would have known those rails are easily replaceable and that there is m-lok underneath them.
>If you actually watched any videos on the thing then you would have known those rails are easily replaceable and that there is m-lok underneath them.
I am aware. The rails are still fricking moronic, but so is the entire design of this gun. This gun is a litmus test for morons.
Turns out it was designed during a PSA 4 week coke binge so no fricking wonder.
There's no point in spending 1k on this garbage when you can save for a B&T
Looking at the brace compares to the stock you can order for hk, it looks like you might be able to interchange it. If not, wouldn't be too long before someone comes out with one. I have the HK one already so hopefully it just fits.
People have no idea how absolutely garbage this thing is going to be. >brace rails that will flex >shitty 5.7 round >built of their poverty 5.7 pistol >the low level autism rail placement >its a fricking semi-auto pdw
this abomination is further proof that god is dead or never existed to begin with.
None of that matters. Nobody is buying it to be a practical gun. They are buying it for the novelty. It doesn't actually matter if its good or not. Its the closest thing most people will get to an MP7 and that's reason enough.
>He doesn't know that TommyBuilt literally makes an MP7 >He doesn't seen the multiple threads of people thinking about using this gun as a utility piece >he doesn't know how moronic most people actually are >he is probably one of these morons
oof
I know all about Tommy built. I've shot their UMP. I also know they are stupid expensive, there's always a wait and they usually have problems and the process is a pain in the ass. Most Anons are going to get the PSA for 1/3rd the price.
>Most Anons are going to get the PSA for 1/3rd the price.
My statement remains the same. It's not an MP7, it's not remotely close to what an MP7 is.
People think it's aesthetically similar and they're going to buy it purely for that purpose and they're moronic for doing so.
4 months ago
Anonymous
It shouldn't even try to be an MP7 - let Tommybuilt chase that shit.
It should try to be a ST kinetics CPW instead - 9mm/5.7x28/4.6x30
4 months ago
Anonymous
This looks like PSA tried to copy B&T and I kinda frick with it.
4 months ago
Anonymous
When people say its an MP7 they don't mean its trying to be a direct copy, they mean its trying to fill a similar role. Which, for most of PSA's intended buyers means a sufficient stand in for the HL2 smg which was also MP7 inspired but not actually an MP7. Nobody really wants a real MP7 anyways, the ammunition is just as hard to get as the gun. You are entitled to think its a dumb buy but that wont have any effect on the market. People will buy them because they are cool and PSA will make a profit.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>People will buy them because they are cool and PSA will make a profit.
I am predicting the sales will be good for a solid quarter and then fall off because they lack utility and it's really not as cool as people think.
This why internet losers shouldn't be allowed to have a voice in anything.
Not really as they showed off the prototype 5.45 rounds last year and are still working on it. They need the ammo to feed the AK's they've been selling.
if it actually comes in 12 and you're not joshing and they can get it to actually function i'd be interested in one for sure, frick genesis and their absurd prices
It does, pulled that from the poll page details they had. Would be super good to see a Genesis competitor. I'm sure they'd have to have different uppers for the shotgun.
EZ PZ. frick the daggers and those other souless options, these three projects they should prioritize. can't believe i'm saying it but PSA does a better job of making the market more exciting than the usual gucci gun brand manufacturers.
Honestly that doesn't look half bad.
Generic, but in a neutral and non-annoying way. Almost something you might see as a standard soldier weapon in a "near-future" movie.
Voted for the 5.7, .308 JAKL and the shotgun. The big jakl would probably piss off SCARgays and the shotgun is some weird amalgamation of Remington and Mossberg pumps. I'm hoping that the 5.7 is an actual gun and not just a fancy shell that the pistol drops into.
>and the shotgun is some weird amalgamation of Remington and Mossberg pumps.
That's what I was thinking with the "570" name. Wonder what the barrel is. Voted for that and the bolt action because I'm in the market for a bolt action in the next year or so. Even if I don't buy it it'll probably improve the market and stop manufacturers from doing dumb shit like not making their guns available with threaded barrels standard (fricking RUGER and their gen 1 non-bull barrel STANAG Americans IIRC - hard to tell as a lot of the listings are gone for the gen 2). And the stocks with paper thin forends, my god. I want something cheap and upgradeable between "ultra heavy benchrest gun" and "feather light hunting rifle"; is that so hard to ask?
I'm not down with the .308 jakl because I have strong doubts it will deliver in the accuracy department compared to a DI or short stroke .308.
Sub 16" is going to make it worse - why even bother when you can get a short ar10 or G3
I have a PSA lower, no complaints. I think the selector markings look a bit squished IIRC but that's about it. Better trigger than my other lower and much much better detent on the safety.
kek i hope they release sabres with hodge rails, gun-instagram influencers and drop culture clowns will probably hang themselves. hodge defense is now poverty tier
https://i.imgur.com/u3qIgBD.jpg
Can't wait for the influx of Black person rich influencers, wanna be influencers, and gun snobs to try to do a Talmud length dissertation on why it's bad that PSA is cucking all the designs that are unobtainable for the average person
I dont really think that anyone is mad that they're doing their own thing. Those types are a minority and PSA is pretty well respected despite kind of having a reputation for being for poors.
Voted for the 5.7, .308 JAKL and the shotgun. The big jakl would probably piss off SCARgays and the shotgun is some weird amalgamation of Remington and Mossberg pumps. I'm hoping that the 5.7 is an actual gun and not just a fancy shell that the pistol drops into.
the average PSA buyer probably needs a .22 practice pistol more than they need a .45 or 10mm, and they're more likely to finally buy one if PSA offers it.
Is this why a lot of their AK's have been out of stock for awhile? Is PSA running themselves thin with too many gun models and not enough assembly lines?
PSA doing a build your own bolt gun is interesting though because right now the only companies that do that charge absolutely moronic prices for it. The build your own pump shotgun is cool too because no one does that, at least not to my knowledge
That's exactly what I mean by "frick"; I was hoping it'd be higher because I'd love to be able to throw together a bolt action with the exact parts I want at PSA prices. Hopefully they don't just do the top 1/2/3 and throw the rest out. I like the shotgun but I think it's a bit ugly, though a good idea.
AR bans fail because there's too many of them
green tip bans fail because there's too many of them
pistol brace bans fail because there's too many of them
37mm launchers are the next step
I have a vastly superior 37 but I want the PSA noob tube to happen so more people get into the caliber.
More 37mm users = more diverse 37mm ammo for me.
I expected the MP7iat home to be at the top. Good to see the Vuk in the running. I think it anf the 308 Jakl are the most important for the industry/ the 308 will put a lot of pressure on existing over priced competition. The Vuk is a big leap for AKs. >but its not an AK!
Shut the frick up. Its long stroke and takes AK mags. No proper modern AK would be parts compatible anyways.
I just bought a 5.56 AK. I would have absolutely bought this instead. If this gets released, it's probably better I wait for a 2nd generation anyway, so no big deal.
.308 Jakl from PSA would be moronic
BUT, there aren't any real piston .308 options at that price range at all. XCR, LMT, Bren 2 and other piston .308 start at a cool $2,400.
So will this poll end up being bullshit?
In the sense that it's not going to determine the exact order that they're actually going to put this stuff out, I mean.
All of the new daggers and the Enhanced M4 are basically last place, but I feel like they would be easier for PSA to crank out than most of the stuff in the top 5, so I wonder if they would actually end up coming out way sooner than their position would imply.
Most of the guns are actual concepts and those are the ones that will have priority determined. Some are already in tooling phase and will come out first no matter what. The bolt and shotgun are already in tooling.
I wonder if this will be a piston gun, or just another blowback piece of trash, having a 9mm piston gun (even if it's long stroke instead of short stroke) on the amrket other than the mpx would be pretty based
The matador arms 9mm upper has them beat already if it's blowback but with the ar18 action.
The ar 18 action is short-stroke, which isn't blowback, I assume you mean an ar-18 styled upper not action. it would go with their ar-15 and AK- style blowback 9mm's, but would be kind of silly for it
I meant more about the bolt design and the spring within the upper assembly.
their video from this morning says it's blowback- the spring setup with probably be ar-18ish, that's fair enough. the bolt is gonna be a be a non rotating big chunk cause blowback
This is what the Mat9 parts are. This jakl shouldn't be too different.
LMT is coming out with a piston 9mm
generic 7th gen assault rifle
so bland I'm shocked it's not beige
Hellion if it's mother drank
For the Black fans in the audience, all 3 of you
>"Notice me tripgay-sempai"
dollar store MP7
I like what I see, especially the Vulk, 5.7, and the Olcan. Here's to hoping they work on release
>For the Black fans in the audience
I'm surprised it never got a sequel
You’ll say all of this then go buy a $30k Knights rifle
Why god, why can no one seem to design a bullpup that doesn't look absolutely fricking moronic?
Its not a big ask, either make a FAMAS or make it look exactly like one of the bullpups from Halo. That's all you have to do.
Basically yeah, if any company makes a knockoff BR that actually looks the part then they are going to sell more of them than every other bullpup that any company has ever made combined.
>Basically yeah, if any company makes a knockoff BR that actually looks the part then they are going to sell more of them than every other bullpup that any company has ever made combined.
People always say this shit but the truth is that like 10 people would buy it and it'd be $3000
This. Who the frick even gives a shit about Halo, shits a dead franchise and it has been for at least 5 years.
>Who the frick even gives a shit about Halo
Millennials that just started making real money and have nostalgia. The age of 50 shades of the same 1911 is over. Vidya gay gun clam shells are coming.
You’re honestly a fricking moron if you believe this.
Nobody cares about Halo anymore except for boomers trying to relive their Halo 2 in highschool days.
PSA is correct is making a bullpup platform around things they already own and make themselves. Cant wait to throw my 10.5 upper on a bullpup lower for the Lols
Thoughts on AKB-23?
that thing is sex and I frickin want one just to have it dressed up as an SA-80
https://aandk.llc/akb-23-brn180/
best looking bullpup conversion on the market
no sage
you think garand thumb did some pre programming marketing with his l85a1 vid?
Can someone fricking explain to me why moronic mongoloid, lower thant worm IQ Black person cattle gun """"""""""""""DESIGNERS"""""""""""""" always decide to come up with a brilliant idea to put random fricking cutouts and holes onto everything. Just look at the 9mm jack, WHATS THE FRICKING POINT THERE'S 4 OF THEM LITERALLY. FRICK THESE PEOPLE they have actual brain damage.
Duh anon, we are in the future now! Just wait until 2050 when so much is cut out that there isnt even a gun there anymore and everyone is just playing pretend like children again.
>i HATE weight savings measures that companies would have done in the past if it wasn't incredibly time consuming
It doesn't save shit and looks horrible .
They aesthetics lost overshadow whatever marginal benefits this offers.
>Wow my gun looks like dogshit but at least it weighs 5lbs instead of 5.5lbs then it would be way too heavy!
No.
I hate superfluous Lamborghini lines too. But I wonder if the upper would just look stupid if it was totally flat and smooth with no lines breaking it up
>flat and stupid
It'd probably just look Hi-Point-like, round top box. Which is to say completely fine.
Looks really cool. I set up a bot to vote for this using VPN and new email addresses every time. Hopefully I can strong arm this in.
Would
MP7 at home (also would)
Oh boy, yet another direct blow-back 9mm PCC! Not not like there are already dozens of those on the market. Hard pass.
uses jakl uppers btw
I don't like how big the cutout by the gas block is, it looks like the rail will crack right there
i really really hope these actually come to fruition. a PSA mp7 would be so unfathomably based
How is it even possible that one company can be so extremely based??????
If these come at around $300 im going to fricking cream myself
$999 targeted MSRP, early 2025 targeted release, and binary triggers for this and the rock confirmed to be in development as well makes this the star of shot show for me by an extremely long mile
why would that be moronic?
>why would that be moronic?
Because the regular jakl in wimpy 5.56 falls apart. Add a real cartridge like .308 and those screws will pop themselves out after one shot. If you took a fricking second to look at it, you'd see the Jakl is covered in screws. Screws walk out.
>Because the regular jakl in wimpy 5.56 falls apart.
where have you heard this lmao? I own a jakl upper that ive put around 2000 rounds through, no issues so far. unlike the FN that rattles optics to death only hundreds of rounds and voids warranties for suppressor use. most every jakl owner ive talked to has had similar experiences to me.
Black person have you LOOKED AT A SCAR OR B&T?!
Jakl is covered in screws which makes it shit for serious us. That other moron that claimed his was great probably only has about 100rounds through it. I believe the owners that have put thousands of rounds testing it on youtube and a large portion of them say it falls apart. The extractor fails, the feeding fails, the gas block comes undone and various screws fall out.
Look at SCAR 17 you say has the same problem. Only two visible screws. TWO and they aren't important to the function of the gun. You need to take a pry bar and unhinge that PSA dick sucking jaw. PSA does not make quality, reliable guns. They make cool toys with short shelf life.
>Only two visible screws.
Holy shit you're actually too stupid to count
i cant believe i fell for such moronic bait in 2016+8
>Screws walk out
>what is Loctite
>I don't shoot or own guns
Locktite doesn't last forever. Never does, just the fact that you bring this up shows me you don't know what you're talking about it. All the locktite I've used doesn't last forever. I have two tubes in my tool box at all time. There are more permanent better solutions like calk, super glue or red loctite but I don't use them because I feel that would ruin my guns.
That's funny, because I've actually used loctite on guns and other things and had zero issues.
Why are wheel guns so cool?
>There are more permanent better solutions like... red loctite
>but I don't use them because I feel that would ruin my guns.
Holy kek. This is bait, right?
kek i hope they release sabres with hodge rails, gun-instagram influencers and drop culture clowns will probably hang themselves. hodge defense is now poverty tier
Psa giving the people what they want. Unfathomably based
Great idea but aesthetics a little off
this is like the call of duty rendition where they have to change it a little so they can call it something different
Are those.... Braces?
he said it was in the video
Oh look, the PDW2000 from Arma
Inb4 PSA MX lineup
no way they made an mp7 and the battlefield 4 ak12 kek
i bet that grip is massive.
No larger than the PSA 57 rock grip, which is the smallest grip of all the 5.7 guns
Tiny hands detected
10mm dagger, mp7 at home and the shotgun are my votes
I like these
Why can't anybody do something like this in 9mm? Masterpiece arms doesn't count.
B&T does that in 9mm
And it sucks and is overpriced.
inb4 poor
Yeah I heard as much in reviews. I don’t disagree.
Tbh pdw calibers are better in mp7 type guns. An appropriate barrel length for 9mm makes the gun too short and cluttered. Something like 7-10” works better so a smaller caliber with more powder behind it makes more sense. 5.7 and 4.6 are still underwhelming though, a 30 carbine necked down to whatever would be better. Possibly hybrid case. Or maybe 7.5 FK.
I'm not a big fan of PDW calibers in general. 9mm would be a cheaper to shoot plinker and more practical IMO. Since it would pretty much be a cheap range toy I should just get a SP33 and put the Farrow Tech chassis on it.
Exactly 5.56 is a pistol round
Look up .22 Johnson spitfire. It was a 30 carbine necked down to 5.7 and is 2x as powerful as modern 5.7
Why? That's boring as frick. Just buy any of the myriad 9mm PCCs with a short barrel.
>Masterpiece arms doesn't count.
Why?
>the low level autism rail placement
If you actually watched any videos on the thing then you would have known those rails are easily replaceable and that there is m-lok underneath them.
>If you actually watched any videos on the thing then you would have known those rails are easily replaceable and that there is m-lok underneath them.
I am aware. The rails are still fricking moronic, but so is the entire design of this gun. This gun is a litmus test for morons.
Turns out it was designed during a PSA 4 week coke binge so no fricking wonder.
There's no point in spending 1k on this garbage when you can save for a B&T
Half life 2 looking mf
Are those braces someone tell me.
?t=274
obviously. nobody sells guns that are only available as an sbr
They look like an MP7 and a Hi-Point carbine had a baby. Like some mulatto with a wealthy white German dad and some black street where.
I dig it.
make it 9mm with an MP5 mag
Looking at the brace compares to the stock you can order for hk, it looks like you might be able to interchange it. If not, wouldn't be too long before someone comes out with one. I have the HK one already so hopefully it just fits.
People have no idea how absolutely garbage this thing is going to be.
>brace rails that will flex
>shitty 5.7 round
>built of their poverty 5.7 pistol
>the low level autism rail placement
>its a fricking semi-auto pdw
this abomination is further proof that god is dead or never existed to begin with.
None of that matters. Nobody is buying it to be a practical gun. They are buying it for the novelty. It doesn't actually matter if its good or not. Its the closest thing most people will get to an MP7 and that's reason enough.
>He doesn't know that TommyBuilt literally makes an MP7
>He doesn't seen the multiple threads of people thinking about using this gun as a utility piece
>he doesn't know how moronic most people actually are
>he is probably one of these morons
oof
I know all about Tommy built. I've shot their UMP. I also know they are stupid expensive, there's always a wait and they usually have problems and the process is a pain in the ass. Most Anons are going to get the PSA for 1/3rd the price.
>Most Anons are going to get the PSA for 1/3rd the price.
My statement remains the same. It's not an MP7, it's not remotely close to what an MP7 is.
People think it's aesthetically similar and they're going to buy it purely for that purpose and they're moronic for doing so.
It shouldn't even try to be an MP7 - let Tommybuilt chase that shit.
It should try to be a ST kinetics CPW instead - 9mm/5.7x28/4.6x30
This looks like PSA tried to copy B&T and I kinda frick with it.
When people say its an MP7 they don't mean its trying to be a direct copy, they mean its trying to fill a similar role. Which, for most of PSA's intended buyers means a sufficient stand in for the HL2 smg which was also MP7 inspired but not actually an MP7. Nobody really wants a real MP7 anyways, the ammunition is just as hard to get as the gun. You are entitled to think its a dumb buy but that wont have any effect on the market. People will buy them because they are cool and PSA will make a profit.
>People will buy them because they are cool and PSA will make a profit.
I am predicting the sales will be good for a solid quarter and then fall off because they lack utility and it's really not as cool as people think.
This why internet losers shouldn't be allowed to have a voice in anything.
funneh
I'm assuming the Vuk is a 5.45mm jakl?
Maybe, this could mean PSA has a source for 5.45 or they're just using the 74 mags with 5.56 followers.
Pretty moronic to think it's 5.45, definitely 5.56.
Not really as they showed off the prototype 5.45 rounds last year and are still working on it. They need the ammo to feed the AK's they've been selling.
they showed off 5.56 and 7.62x39 too, and it all looked like absolute trash, I'd be really surprised if the 5.45 came out before the 5.56 or at all.
It says it comes in 5.56, 5.45, 7.62x39, 9x39, and 12 gauge.
the world is a strange place.
Definitely Jakl based but I think the angle they are taking is lets make an AK12 based on the Jakl and it isn't made by corrupt alcoholics.
In the vid he specifies 5.56 mags
It says it comes in 5.56, 5.45, 7.62x39, 9x39, and 12 gauge.
if it actually comes in 12 and you're not joshing and they can get it to actually function i'd be interested in one for sure, frick genesis and their absurd prices
It does, pulled that from the poll page details they had. Would be super good to see a Genesis competitor. I'm sure they'd have to have different uppers for the shotgun.
5.56 with 5.45, 9x39, 7.62x39, and 12 gauge planned.
>X5.7
>Vuk
>Olcan
EZ PZ. frick the daggers and those other souless options, these three projects they should prioritize. can't believe i'm saying it but PSA does a better job of making the market more exciting than the usual gucci gun brand manufacturers.
This, but swap the vuk with the .308, and add the à la carte bolt action stuff.
Honestly that doesn't look half bad.
Generic, but in a neutral and non-annoying way. Almost something you might see as a standard soldier weapon in a "near-future" movie.
>Vuk
>X5.7
>10mm Dagger
Vuk clearly needs some refinement with the stock and iron sights but I would definitely buy one.
It needs aperture sights. The stock looks alright they just need to give it adjustable length.
Just give it an optional aperture sight leaf
Look closer and you'll notice the sights are unusable with the zhukov stock comb height
Oh yeah, I can see it now. Judging by the height of the optic the ironsights were a complete afterthought. Anyway, JAKL for us Yuropoors when?
Not a problem for Goobers members. They get an awful skin rash if their cheek touches the stock.
Really lazy imo.
Its really just a shittier jackal.
Psa being based per usual, love to see it. A gun for every american
>picrel
Finally, a gun which accepts AK mags and isn't obsolete trash.
>compact 10mm
>not full sized 10mm
not as interesting to me
>x5.7
>thumper
>570
I for one am rooting for PSA to become an even more budget kel-tec
Voted for the 5.7, .308 JAKL and the shotgun. The big jakl would probably piss off SCARgays and the shotgun is some weird amalgamation of Remington and Mossberg pumps. I'm hoping that the 5.7 is an actual gun and not just a fancy shell that the pistol drops into.
I'm just glad someone is finally making a "builder" shotgun
>and the shotgun is some weird amalgamation of Remington and Mossberg pumps.
That's what I was thinking with the "570" name. Wonder what the barrel is. Voted for that and the bolt action because I'm in the market for a bolt action in the next year or so. Even if I don't buy it it'll probably improve the market and stop manufacturers from doing dumb shit like not making their guns available with threaded barrels standard (fricking RUGER and their gen 1 non-bull barrel STANAG Americans IIRC - hard to tell as a lot of the listings are gone for the gen 2). And the stocks with paper thin forends, my god. I want something cheap and upgradeable between "ultra heavy benchrest gun" and "feather light hunting rifle"; is that so hard to ask?
If my dreams werent memes they’d bite off b&t instead of h&k and put 22tcm instead of 5.7, but yeah my votes exactly.
I'm not down with the .308 jakl because I have strong doubts it will deliver in the accuracy department compared to a DI or short stroke .308.
Sub 16" is going to make it worse - why even bother when you can get a short ar10 or G3
You forgot to add this one.
As a poorgay, I feel like I'm going to end up a PSA anon
Modest living gay gonna do the same thing
Well-off israelite here taking the same path. My shekels are NOT going to H&K
I have a PSA lower, no complaints. I think the selector markings look a bit squished IIRC but that's about it. Better trigger than my other lower and much much better detent on the safety.
It's not a bad fate anon. Consoomers gonna consoom
Can't wait for the influx of Black person rich influencers, wanna be influencers, and gun snobs to try to do a Talmud length dissertation on why it's bad that PSA is cucking all the designs that are unobtainable for the average person
I dont really think that anyone is mad that they're doing their own thing. Those types are a minority and PSA is pretty well respected despite kind of having a reputation for being for poors.
all true, I'm just waiting for the Black person rich cope and seethe
I dont think most of them care. I don't, at least.
I dont either.
A soon as one of you gays posts your nitride barreled 1500 notaSCARH im going to tell you its a budget barrel that you overpaid for.
Except qpq is superior to chrome lining unless you’re regularly in steamy moist jungles for prolonged periods
Sure thing poorgay.
Enjoy your budget barrel :^)
Better than a $5000 scar
>better
I sincerely doubt it.
Scars are 100% not worth what they go for now tho.
Scargay here. No cope here, I am absolutely giddy for this thing.
>skipping half the options
https://palmettostatearmory.com/forum/t/shot-show-2024/31588
these seem fun
Who's even in the market for this?
people who don't lie to themselves and accept they buy guns as toys
People that want a 40mm launcher? Are you stupid or something?
it's only 37mm to get around the nfa
>it's only 37mm to get around the nfa
it's still functional. When I build my M16A4 with M203 and ACOG I don't want to use an airsoft mockup.
Only one I would buy.
Cs gas homeless camps from the highway
NOW you have my attention.
the current court standard is that if it's in common use, it's protected by the second amendment
me, because i want to pop one of these on my AR and load it with one of these because why not
fireworks but you could make these yourself too
I voted for .22lr Dagger and the x5.7
>Vote for Vuk
yeah dude, we need another fricking AR.
>it's all JAKLs
Wanting to remind everything that I’m a genius. Hopefully we get retro line stuff at the actual show
A Garand is definitely in the works, hopefully they'll have something to show at SHOT Show. Here's the CEO teasing new H&R products (m14 and garand):
Man, I’d love a M1 carbine in 10mm
This is a PSA thread, should I buy a jakl now, or should I wait to get the scar at home?
wait for the vuk
voted for the BYOBoltie, the .22 Dagger, and the poorgay SCAR-H
the average PSA buyer probably needs a .22 practice pistol more than they need a .45 or 10mm, and they're more likely to finally buy one if PSA offers it.
I will not vote for the AK.
combloctards have had decades to shit out a reliable cheap gun and fail consistently every time.
Is this why a lot of their AK's have been out of stock for awhile? Is PSA running themselves thin with too many gun models and not enough assembly lines?
>tfw still waiting for an American company to make a rifle that fires 54r so I can rapid fire the stockpile of Russian rounds I have in my basement
>not willing to save and source a pkm
fortune favors the bold anon
Voted for the VUK, the toob, and the MP7 clone.
Honestly, everything on the lineup looks cool. I'm 100% going to buy the SCAR-H and MP7 knockoffs.
Went with the grenade launcher vuk and bullpup
Whoever designed this page should get his eyes scratched out, there's a scroll field inside. The frick.
PSA is doing the lord’s work, god bless south carolina, now hurry up and gimme SCAR-H-at-home
Vuk Olcan Thumper
simple as
If they sell the vuk in 5.56 I'm pre ordering
funny enough it will also come in 9x39 and 12guage
>9x39
fake news
Votes after 1 day.
>bolt action in fourth
frick.
PSA doing a build your own bolt gun is interesting though because right now the only companies that do that charge absolutely moronic prices for it. The build your own pump shotgun is cool too because no one does that, at least not to my knowledge
That's exactly what I mean by "frick"; I was hoping it'd be higher because I'd love to be able to throw together a bolt action with the exact parts I want at PSA prices. Hopefully they don't just do the top 1/2/3 and throw the rest out. I like the shotgun but I think it's a bit ugly, though a good idea.
They are doing all the products in the vote, the vote is just to decide what they focus on finishing first.
>the vote is just to decide what they focus on finishing first.
God, how can PSA get any better?
THUMP those numbers up!
AR bans fail because there's too many of them
green tip bans fail because there's too many of them
pistol brace bans fail because there's too many of them
37mm launchers are the next step
amen brother
I have a vastly superior 37 but I want the PSA noob tube to happen so more people get into the caliber.
More 37mm users = more diverse 37mm ammo for me.
I voted the 45 Dagger, 308 JAKL, and Thumper.
If anything I want them to just release the 15 round mags so I can put them in my Glock 21.
I expected the MP7iat home to be at the top. Good to see the Vuk in the running. I think it anf the 308 Jakl are the most important for the industry/ the 308 will put a lot of pressure on existing over priced competition. The Vuk is a big leap for AKs.
>but its not an AK!
Shut the frick up. Its long stroke and takes AK mags. No proper modern AK would be parts compatible anyways.
Big if true.
For me? It's putting a PSA thumper on a PSA Scar at home.
Day 2
Vuk bros, we are gonna make it?
JAKLbros, how are all these Tylers outvoting us
NEW PSA VIDEO 15 MINUTES AGO
Looks cool
X57 sticker price will be $1k.
Thumper will be $250 (for underbarrel only?)
If any version of the thumper only costs $250 I'm going to jizz and buy two
I just bought a 5.56 AK. I would have absolutely bought this instead. If this gets released, it's probably better I wait for a 2nd generation anyway, so no big deal.
I'd wait and see if they will fit on their current ks-47 lowers.
Will a jakl go on a ks47 lower? I kinda want that.
HUCKS WERCKS 12g can is not ear safe, what's the meta for my 12g VUK
>308 JAKL guaranteed
lets fricking go lads
.308 Jakl from PSA would be moronic
BUT, there aren't any real piston .308 options at that price range at all. XCR, LMT, Bren 2 and other piston .308 start at a cool $2,400.
KRINK NEXT MONTH CONFIRMED
Can they write a fricking press release? Stupid that I have to look at multiple videos including third party to get basic information.
>stuff comes undone, even with loctite
>oh i'd never use red loctite, it might not come undone
the L85 thread bumped the bullpup up higher lol
Is it only anons here voting for this or something? How many people are actually voting on this whole thing?
>How many people are actually voting on this whole thing?
1349 voters ATM.
https://palmettostatearmory.com/forum/t/shot-show-2024/31588/2
I was more so asking how many of us are the ones swaying the vote towards the L85 at home
So will this poll end up being bullshit?
In the sense that it's not going to determine the exact order that they're actually going to put this stuff out, I mean.
All of the new daggers and the Enhanced M4 are basically last place, but I feel like they would be easier for PSA to crank out than most of the stuff in the top 5, so I wonder if they would actually end up coming out way sooner than their position would imply.
It would be simultaneously impressive and depressing if they pulled a Hi-Point and said frick the polls after all this hype.
Most of the guns are actual concepts and those are the ones that will have priority determined. Some are already in tooling phase and will come out first no matter what. The bolt and shotgun are already in tooling.
Day 4