Variance in Ukrainian troop quality

Ukrainian HIMARS operators achieved decent results without taking a single loss.
Ukrainian Leopard and Bradley crews watch the vehicle in front of them get blown up by a mine and drive right past them into the exact same minefield.
What gives? I'm assuming that both were trained by the west and were at least "pretty good", if not cream of the crop, to begin with.

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  1. 11 months ago
    ALL FIELDS

    Dumb question dumb thread. One is a long range piece of artillery that shoots and fricks off immediately after. The other is a MBT which both sides knowingly lose to artillery, mines and drones especially during offensives. Russia however is more than willing to burn through their MBT stocks which they have more of down to throwing up old T-62s and older T-55s.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Dumb reply. Knowing that your side will take tank losses isn't a good reason for several vehicles to drive into the same patch of mines like lemmings

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    equally trained crews in completely different vehicles with different doctrines doesn't really show anything different between the crews, they aren't comparable. Besides you're making broad assumptions about their military based on shit that happed with elements of a single brigade. But you know this, and this thread is just b8 for (you)s because you're a massive homosexual.
    >inb4 seethe and /k/ope

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Dumb reply. Knowing that your side will take tank losses isn't a good reason for several vehicles to drive into the same patch of mines like lemmings

      Frontline combat vehicles take more losses than artillery? No way!

      Fricking moron OP. Kys.

      >rare guided munitions
      LMAO, we've sent them five-digit figures of GMLRS rockets by now.

      If the HIMARS crews were as competent as the Leo / Bradley crews, we'd probably have at least one frickup by now. There'd be footage of a lancet blowing its load into a HIMARS or something to that effect. We've seen this with the other Ukrainian artillery systems btw: Krabs, PzH2000s, Caesars, all have been hit by a Lancet.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >there is footage of blown up himarz and pzh2k I swear.
        >provides no link
        Why are we ignored zisters

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >We've seen this with the other Ukrainian artillery systems btw: Krabs, PzH2000s, Caesars, all have been hit by a Lancet.
        Note that the PzH survived; the armour absorbed pretty much all the damage.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          At least one did. Still, the crew kinda fricked up by getting hit at all imo. HIMARS launchers haven’t even taken a scratch

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            PzH2K range is much shorter than HIMARS, so it is more exposed. Also, it's a fricking tank howitzer, it's designed to be able to take some hits.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          At least one did. Still, the crew kinda fricked up by getting hit at all imo. HIMARS launchers haven’t even taken a scratch

          remember when PzH pipes started getting worn out and Ziggers (or poles?) spammed those images on this board?

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            yes it was literally
            >xaxaxaxa you shot so much and killed us so hard your barrel broke! xaxaxa*~~)) stupid NAFO troony hohol

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Most of the international seething on the board is mostly shills and morons tbh.

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Ukrainian HIMARS operators achieved decent results without taking a single loss.

    Ukie long range western supplied rocket artillery is micromanaged by western officers and fires only on approved targets, lest the ukies waste rare guided muntions blowing up schools, hospitals and shopping gallerias containing low threat civilians. Ukie armor is micromanaged by ukie officers and deployed as they wish. Ukie vehicle commanders are recruited from civilian unskilled labor sector. Remember that the ukie elite forces in their national guard primarily consist of former soccer hooligans.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Good morning sir!

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Frontline combat vehicles take more losses than artillery? No way!

      Fricking moron OP. Kys.

      >rare guided munitions
      LMAO, we've sent them five-digit figures of GMLRS rockets by now.

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Did you not see the video of the himars getting BTFO?

    >inb4 fake

    they even locked up journalist who posted pics of the destroyed himars lol

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >they even locked up journalist who posted pics of the destroyed himars lol
      suddenly a wild bullshit appears!

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      may I see it?

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >yes! I am owning /k/ by acting moronic! seethe!!

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Himars operators are aristocrats fighting from a safe distance, Bradley and leopards operators are random drunk guys taken from the street in Odessa

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why would they put random drunks in their Leos and Bradleys? Those are their best vehicles, or at least that's what people say

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >or at least that's what people say
        obviously yeah it's just rusgear on the other side

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >comparing a shoot and scoot mlrs to an ifv assaulting prepared lines without air support
    Congratulations on overcoming whatever birth defect is usually fatal in your country.

  8. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    So this is the power of crippled nogunz turd worlders...

  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Operating a HIMARS just requires you to enter coordinates and press the trigger. No brain needed.

  10. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because HIMARS is operated by foreign mercs NATO while the counterofensiyv has been mostly ukrop mobiks.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Polish nato mercenaries with ability enhancing drugs to be exact

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Polish mulato HAT0 merks

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