So it's going to be >The russians take a few buildings in the middle bit of the town after losing an absurd amount of men and equipment >They'll spend the next several months going back and forth over the buildings, taking far too many casualties >If they do manage to push the ukrainians out of the town they'll be left with...a ruined town with no real immediate value
again?
I really don't understand this, it's like every time russia runs into a difficult, well-defended town their hindbrain kicks in and they all go "blyat we gotta take it" even if there's just no point in it.
With Bakhmut, had they actually managed to take it early on into the battle it would've majorly threatened other parts of the front, but they still kept it up after the opportunity had passed. I don't see any other way to call this behavior besides like "Bakhmut Syndrome".
I mean i don't even think it's that, they tried to gloat about "Taking bakhmut" and then shut up about it after a few weeks. It might just be desperation to try and accomplish anything but my best guess is that the army is being run without a head so to speak.
>Monke doesn't actually understand the situation, so doesn't establish a strategy >The generals have a better view, but since monke doesn't understand, they follow his orders, and they don't establish a strategy >The frontline officers are more or less being left to run the show on their own, and since they have no clue what the actual strategy is, that defaults to "Let's attack this target" >Nobody knows what the next step is besides "Attack" and "resupply/reinforce"
'General Armageddon' might have genuinely been russia's best bet, since he actually seemed to be trying to establish a strategy, even if it was a shit one.
Leaving Kherson was the right move and while his campaign against infrastructure failed, it could have been potentially crippling
Wonder what he's up to now
Nah it seems like he was uhhh...elected as a head of the Coordinating Committee for Air Defence for CIS, which sounds like a really nothingburger position
With Worms Armageddon gone Gerasimov was put in charge and he has to have some overarching strategy since both the 2022/2023 and now 2023/2024 winters featured disastrous Russian offensives into fortified positions (Vuhledar, Avdiivka, not counting Bakhmut since that started before he was in charge)
Obviously the end goal is seizing Donbas, but what purpose do these attacks serve? Draining Ukrainian resources to weaken their next offensive? Keep initiative on Russian side? Is he convinced that overcoming the main strongpoint in an area will trigger a general retreat or collapse? I don't know, but there is some sort of strategy in place since there is a pattern to these actions
>Is he convinced that overcoming the main strongpoint in an area will trigger a general retreat or collapse?
Wasn't that the general idea behind Bakhmut, but due to taking very, very long time it became pointless because ukies simply fortified positions behind it during the fighting?
That was what the shills were saying, but I think Surovikin was a bit more realistic than that. He went on the defensive everywhere and only kept Bakhmut, a mainly infantry battle, going
It was a crude but ultimately way better way to drain Ukraine's resources using Wagner + Priggy was seemingly good friends with Surovikin and probably convinced him to let him have his win at Bakhmut
not him but i believe that Monke believes he needs this win ASAP. the russian presidential election, while an obvious sham, still matters to him somewhat, and is only a month and a half away. not that Monke can lose it, but to avoid potential civil unrest from him winning it he needs good enough reasons for him to logically win, even if it is taking a single town after two years of fighting for it. russian media can spin that story to the moon and back, and losing a shitload of mobiks and equipment is a lot better to him than what he truly fears, whether that be balkanization of russia or getting Gaddafi'd.
Russia got a lot of money in the first year of the war by still selling gas at a high price to Europe and selling oil at a very high price to the world. Now these things aren't there anymore and the people will see economic suffering this year. On top of this Putin will need to do a second mobilization wave to rotate many soldiers out of Ukraine. He needs there to be no doubt that people support him in the elections.
is it gonna be harder since Ukraine is softer due to shitheads in congress blocking the aid package? that's really all i feel concerned about, pretty optimistic they'll do fine with or without the aid at this point
Yes and no. Europe is starting to pick up some of the slack on getting the ukies weaponry, but they're going to have to rely on their own stuff a bit more. Basically the entire ukrainian military leadership, even those in disagreement about other parts of strategy, are saying: >"We need to start doing more with less, so we need to start going all in on cheap weapons that perform beyond their price point"
Which is why ukraine wants to make a million FPV drones this year. Drones, mines, and artillery as the ukrainians can provide it are going to make it very very ugly for the russians to grind them out of avdiivka. "Easier" will be mostly academic for the thousands of casualties it's going to take.
I don't think it's quite correct to think of Ukraine as "softer" due to reduced aid, but definitely they're going to be getting more creative and more invested in domestic solutions.
>shitheads in congress blocking the aid package
Good news!
https://news.yahoo.com/us-senate-unveils-border-deal-015733246.html
It's not 100% final yet but that looks like $60 billion on top of the $54bn (50bn euros) that the EU passed plus the $3 billion that the UK is sending. That's a lot of funding overall when you consider the NHS for the whole of the UK runs on a budget of 164.9 billion quid or $208.02bn.
I seriously doubt the republicans can pull their heads out of their asses for long enough to do something that isn't fricking everybody over for a talking point.
If it passes, it's a miracle, but how I see it it's dead on arrival.
>y-y-y-y-y-you're a fed! everybody loves the republican party! they love the dickheads who constantly sabotage gun rights with compromises!
Try harder homosexual
The Dems should add some "frick Iran" provisions to the package (alongside aid to Israel and Ukraine), and negotiate it as a lump item, so it can't get picked apart (though I'm not sure how easy that would be). Many Repubs salivate at the thought of kicking Iran in the balls, though I'm not sure whether it would pass, even in this form.
Wonder if the EU agreement has something to do with Republicans becoming more cooperative
Maybe they were banking on Orban (they really like him for some reason) not bending, but now they look like the only major anti-Ukrainian force in the West which isn't a good look
Republicans said they want to have and aid package to Israel alone no mention of Ukraine due its not pleasing to trump and he wants Ukrane to fail due he chould blame it on biden for another failure like Afghanistan. It's politics at worst moments but hey atlest Europe is stepping up since we know we can't reliabley trust Americans and they long have been signaling they want to go play in the pacific agianst China
No dude Afgan pull out was a right decision its that Republicans paraded that it was a Biden failure and most everyday Americans believe them even though they finished off taliban just enough for the ANA to end them solidifying their legitimacy and we all saw how that ended.
And trusting the Americans we see now that aid to ukrane is not favorable to trump hence why the House dosent want to pass it. What's to say when shit atcualy kicks off in NATO country that any politician will want to send troops or material I mean I'd dosent affect them directly
I seriously doubt the republicans can pull their heads out of their asses for long enough to do something that isn't fricking everybody over for a talking point.
If it passes, it's a miracle, but how I see it it's dead on arrival.
MAGA traitors gonna topedo this. republican party is Putin's greatest ally right there with Iran and Norks
The Dems should add some "frick Iran" provisions to the package (alongside aid to Israel and Ukraine), and negotiate it as a lump item, so it can't get picked apart (though I'm not sure how easy that would be). Many Repubs salivate at the thought of kicking Iran in the balls, though I'm not sure whether it would pass, even in this form.
is it gonna be harder since Ukraine is softer due to shitheads in congress blocking the aid package? that's really all i feel concerned about, pretty optimistic they'll do fine with or without the aid at this point
Man VatBlack folk really want people to vote blue.
Wherever the eventual ceasefire line falls is going to be the border for the foreseeable future, every little scrap counts, this might be Russia's last ever chance to expand west.
>Wherever the eventual ceasefire line falls is going to be the border for the foreseeable future, every little scrap counts, this might be Germany's last ever chance to expand west
It does not really matter because when Putin eventually kicks the bucket, the following Russian goverment will follow the appeasement policies with the West, including withdrawing completely from internationally recognized borders of Ukraine.
Pointless waste of time and lives, but such is russia.
Putin is unironically the only person in Russia willing to put up with the corrupt oligarchic nightmare that is russia (I have to admire monke for making his system kinda work, most other world leaders would have Control + A + Deleted the whole government and tried something new). The next guy in charge is gonna have to deal with it and will probably blame (in typical Russian fashion) the evil hato west for fricking up his country and shieet we dindu noffin dey impose sanctions on us for no reason shiieeet, russians have a habit of doing this btw.
>The next guy in charge is gonna have to deal with it and will probably blame (in typical Russian fashion) the evil hato west for fricking up his country
Or he might just blame it on Putin and try to normalize relations with the West again. I'd think that at this point everybody in the Russian elite circles is on board with this war just because nobody wants to risk ending up like Prigo. Once Putin is out of the picture, there will be hell of a lot more important stuff going on in Russia than in Ukraine anyway, and the next leader can easily blame Putin for shitting the bed for everybody.
absolutely not. Monke represents the KGB clan that is in control of the Kremlin. His successor is already established and is directly connected to patrushev who himself is the godfather of the red glowie cland and well known hardline anti-westerner
>Monke represents the KGB clan that is in control of the Kremlin.
which is less than 150 people at this point, most of who are not much younger than monkie, and their children (and grandchildren) have spent the last 30 years living in the EU/USA. I don't think you understand how "expired" Russia is in terms of leadership.
Appeasement with the west will happen after monkie death simply because there are so few people who care AND have the loyalty Putin has cultivated.
The alternative is a dysfunctional warlord-state (worse than now) where Ukrainians drones destroy the only economic infrastructure that matters.
also russian trad elite offspring is more interested in hedonistic endeavours, partying like it's the last time or moving to the west to live a lavish life instead of doing something for their glorious motherland
Until Ukraine builds the capacity to have air superiority in the air space and then does what competent militaries do and encircles the urban area instead of trying to take it with years-long meat waves.
This is what Russia *theoretically* should have been able to do on day 1 with its claimed military equipment; but apparently can't due to training or doctrinal deficiencies. So here's Avdeevka, a Frontline settlement for 10 years, just 20 miles out from the courthouse of the Donetsk Meme Republic - and apparently a major breakthrough in the 3rd year of Russian invasion of Ukraine and a centerpiece of Vladimir Putin's bid for "reelection".
Let's not forget that it's defended by people on top of a small mountain of slag and refuse. Russia's inability to project power even so close to its borders continues to become ever more baffling.
What's even more impressive is that the russian air force lost a bunch of its people and assets to Wagner and it just had to live with the entire event being memory holed by the government and Wagner being seen as heroes by a lot of russians.
This was a theatre moron
You don't even know what Maskirovka is
3 months ago
Anonymous
>2024 >still believing Putin is le based 5D chess master
3 months ago
Anonymous
Maskirovka is...making yourself seem incredibly unstable to both your enemies and allies?
Appear weak when you are strong...
3 months ago
Anonymous
Sure, sure, but what did that little bit of theatre actually...accomplish? Who needed to be tricked into thinking russia was weak? What was the strategic advantage of giving russians panic attacks about reliving the 90s again?
3 months ago
Anonymous
russians are moronic there's no way to know what was their plan
3 months ago
Anonymous
It was a theatre to relocate the experienced Wagner troops (you don't know where they are and where they will strike next and neither does western intelligence) and to prepare Russian people for hardships. Russia is playing the long game and will be on war footing for a very long time...the Long Patriotic War if you will
3 months ago
Anonymous
Too obvious anon
3 months ago
Anonymous
>It was a theatre to relocate the experienced Wagner troops
They could have easily done it without losing men and aircraft and without embarrassing themselves.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Refurbished props
3 months ago
Anonymous
You don't think it's suspicious that all that happens is they walk around for a bit AND shoot down two valuable air assets? No shots fired by ground troops? No vehicles moving more than a snail's pace? You shit on everything vatniks do, but when it's the fakest shit ever, oh no, that one's real, couldn't possibly be an extremely unconvincing op.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>and will be on war footing for a very long time...
That bit is actually true
Russian people will BEG and wish they could live again on the 90s instead of the massive shitstorm that is going to be the upcoming years
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Panic attacks
The people hugging Wagner troops as they passed through and giving them beers didn't seem very panicked.
I think that's the thing people fail to get. Russians hate Putin, hate his regime of corruption that reaches down into every vorner of their lives to frick with them but will not under any circumstances lift a finger to do anything about it.
3 months ago
Anonymous
the king is rarely overthrown by peasants
he is overthrown by the Lords, the other elites, the Landstandt
3 months ago
Anonymous
The Lords, the Elites and the Landstadt are emboldened by peasant disorder and motivated to take action when incentivised by peasant action against their wallets.
3 months ago
Anonymous
But he is weak at the moment.
Everyone wondered why it took that zar so long to get dressed.
Everyone saw he was naked
3 months ago
Anonymous
[...]
it's was clearly a show you moron
morons still believe in the fake coup
I can't tell if these are real vatniks or just people pretending. Like, the ziggers have got so moronic they can't be parodied.
3 months ago
Anonymous
you have to be a moron to believe the coup was real
3 months ago
Anonymous
Maskirovka is...making yourself seem incredibly unstable to both your enemies and allies?
3 months ago
Anonymous
It was 7D chess to put Wagner close to Kiev and Poland *~~)
Don't worry, having the siege tightened around your city is classic NATO doctrine. This is one of the final operational maneuvers before you win the whole war, 100% guaranteed.
>Don't worry, sending thousands of men to die to capture a city is classic Russian doctrine. This is one of the final operational maneuvers before you win the whole war, 100% guaranteed.
>it doesn't matter that we're in a stalemate taking casualty and equipment losses at rates often approaching 9:1 because you haven't killed us hard enough yet!
If you have a line to the russian high command, please convince them of your worldview immediately
Who are you trying to convince?
I always wonder about the shill zigger strategy.
What's their goal? >make us believe russia is winning
The more shilling the more russia is losing everybody knows >form a narrative
We know already that everything a zigger says is allmost reliably the exact opposite of the truth >make us like them
Shilling pushes literally every sane being towards TZD moderate style
"Only" roughly 400,000 Russian soldiers have died so far in this 3 day special military operation against a pathetic vassal state of Russia that they could easily crush if they took the gloves off the ass
>150 Russians crawled into Adiivka using underground pipe >assaulted the defences from behind and drove the Ukies out >gets a narrow bulwark into the city 3 streets wide >Russia column rumbles to frontline to join the assaulters >Ukies immediately throw assaults at the neck of the bulwark and pinch it off >Column gets destroyed right away with ATGMs and drones >now 150 men supplied by 50 men every 2 hours are assaulted by full Ukie firepower - drones dropping tank mines, Bradleys, T-64s, assault platoons, only the 50 men every 2 hours keeping things alive
if there is a political outcome and the Russian military leaves on its own accord, at some level it would have done itself proud and maintained its fearsome reputation, no matter how fricked up their equipment are and how bad their officers, the normal Russian soldier still wars and still attacks. You don't want to tangle with a street army like that.
recently played the italian campaign of 3 and man is it fricking weak. this game was known for it's well made ingame cinematics, an eye for detail and a somewhat entertaining plot copying stuff like james ryan and BoB but ever since the bastogne add-on of 2 they attempt to turn it into some grand strategy game but with shitty shallow mechanics, soulless and repetitive gameplay and overall lower quality. what the frick happened after CoH2 basegame?
I assume they mean dropping tank mines in areas where vehicles are expected, but I do wonder if you could modify a tank mine to detonate when dropped. That would be one hell of a big boom to drop via drone on unsuspecting mobiks or vehicles.
Although I guess maybe tank mines wouldn't be effective like that? Are they shaped charges and only really effective at destroying vehicles that are directly above them and dropping one "point first" would just dig a narrow deep hole in whatever it lands on? I suspect if you could just drop a mine and gib a group of soldiers we'd already have video of it happening.
ROLL UP ROLL UP AND PLACE YOUR BETS
How much of Avdiivka will puccia control after six days (the time it took the US Army to capture the entirety of Baghdad)
All bets accepted but best odds on; >1 building, 5:1 >1 street, 10:1 >1 block, 50:1
Priggy didn't care about losses, he just knew Bakhmut was the height of his relevancy and popularity + the MoD requested Wagner to fold and sign contracts around the same time
It was now or never
>Priggy didn't care about losses
He knew Wagner would seize to exist if he continued. He knew there was not point to continue so he wanted a ticked out.
If he was that desperate to leave, he could've just packet a suitcase full of gold and fricked off to some corner of the world, instead of trying to swing at the king and pussying out when it was go time.
Now he doesn't have to go back to Ukraine anymore.
Priggy didn't care about losses, he just knew Bakhmut was the height of his relevancy and popularity + the MoD requested Wagner to fold and sign contracts around the same time
It was now or never
That's the funny thing about this war.
If the country was the size of Australia, then those farmlands would be more proportional to all the lives lost in the battle.
>Russians hold party or gathering near the frontline and get bombed because surprise surprise there were informers there
Are you stupid?
>Ukrainians hold party or gathering near the frontline and get bombed because surprise surprise there were informers there
Seriously YOU bombed the russian gathering and should know better.
>Russians hold party or gathering near the frontline and get bombed AGAIN because surprise surprise there were informers there AGAIN
Fine go get killed because you want to have a party who cares anymore.
It was nice while it lasted. Hope they make this easy for our boys and surrender already or we'll have to kill all the piggies trapped there down the last
it should be said 9000 times a thread so i'll say it again: the scale of all of these "le epic anti-reddit anti-nafo cauldroooons" is like 10 km at most. both sides can fire artillery at will, the constraint is forward observers/drones to do it. pushing infantry across open fields is literal fricking suicide, even suggesting it gives away that this ayden moron is mentally disabled.
3 months ago
Anonymous
And an open field is the only supply line that hohols have left now, pic rel. So im glad you're starting to understand that the more they try to keep this shitshow going the worse it will be for them
3 months ago
Anonymous
you're approaching this like your favorite football team versing some other team, fricking sad. if you feel this strongly about things go to a recruiting office you dirty fricking russian.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Not an argument moron
3 months ago
Anonymous
>argument
i'm calling you moronic, we're not having an argument.
3 months ago
Anonymous
How about this for an argument > 500 vehicles lost > 100k casualties > for a village that's been on the frontline for the past 10 years
Is that good enough of an argument?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>So im glad you're starting to understand that the more they try to keep this shitshow going the worse it will be for them
Why? Russians suffer tremendous losses going offensive on highly fortified positions, it's the worst or the best depends how you're looking at it.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Russia doesn't need to on the offensive anymore, all the main supply routes have been captured and the only thing left is a designated killing field that is being monitored by drones and arty 24/7
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Russia doesn't need to on the offensive anymore
So they're going to be at constant state of war.
3 months ago
Anonymous
korean scenario is most likely at this point
3 months ago
Anonymous
Isn't some shill from russian gov was trying to sell recently? >korean scenario is most likely at this point
Those are two completely different situations.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>shill from russian gov
I wish I was that important.
Idk, looks like stalemate in Korea for me. So there will be western ukraine, eastern ukraine and 5km wide demilitarized zone in between.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>I wish I was that important.
I mean you're repeating some russian shilling, >Idk, looks like stalemate in Korea for me.
Except nobody annexed Korea. >So there will be western ukraine, eastern ukraine and 5km wide demilitarized zone in between.
Nah, Ukraine continue de-industrialization of russia until they withdraw from their territory.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>"2nd largest military in the world" >can reach London in like 2 days >has supersonic rockets that can destroy 100 gorgillion tanks before being shot down >please please please just let us have a few km of area we promise we won't mess with you after that :~~*(
I guess getting the mostly ethnically zigger areas is a smart move, if they wanna be under russian control so bad then let them.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Snow Black person say what? Let's say you somehow capture Avdiivka after ten years of fighting, is the rest of Ukrainian-held donbabwe going to collapse in two weeks? Who's going to revolt against monke this time? Maybe the long suffering Puccian naval infantry?
3 months ago
Anonymous
i wouldn't even bother arguing with the moron, he can't understand the difference between doing max speed runs over fields in a humvee to resupply the troops already present and sending masses of attacking troops over fields on foot. this is going to be another bakhmut, solid ukrainian losses, maybe the loss of the town (through it being completely destroyed), 3-4x russian losses.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>moron wannabe-analyst makes a point he heard somewhere >wasn't aware that said point applies more to hohols >seethe after getting btfo
many such cases
3 months ago
Anonymous
it's ok if you're moronic but you need to learn to not post. fire control over fields in this scenario always hurts the attacker more than the dug in defender. are you like mentally stunted or something?
by the way post bmps and btrs.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>seriously asking a russian shill if he is either mentally challenged or a moron
huh
3 months ago
Anonymous
>we didn't need it anyways!
kek
3 months ago
Anonymous
yes moron they don't need it
3 months ago
Anonymous
>we didn't need this major logistics hub right next to donetsk
Cool, then you mind moving the dozens of brigades stationed there?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>this empty 10 meter potato field is.... *pick one* >a superhuman astartes lab >T virus resident evil lab >a main logistics hub >the avengers heli carrier is under the potato field
3 months ago
Anonymous
>We didn't need our ships and oil refineries anyway
kek!
3 months ago
Anonymous
>changing the goalpost
kek
Russians value their own lives so low, they think 2 years to get 1 meter of land is worth the deaths of hundreds of thousands of russians. >be russian >arrive to the front >kills himself
amazing.
>we didn't need it anyways >we killed 6 gorrillion russians there
3 months ago
Anonymous
why is there a "major enemy logistics hub" 3 miles from the crown israeliteel of novorossiya, seymour?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>adidikaka >russians are taking it for 2 years now >they are crying that they need it super hard >muh imaginary logistics hub
do you even know what a logistics hub is, or do you just type in random words.
3 months ago
Anonymous
are taking it for 2 years now
And ukros are defending it for 2 years and they'll lose it in the end and it was all for nothing.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>all for nothing.
2 Russian divisions bled dry lmao
3 months ago
Anonymous
>all for nothing
Piles of zigger corpses
3 months ago
Anonymous
daily clips of entire russian armored columns getting massacred was quite entertaining.
considering adidikaka still didnt fall, i wonder how many armored columnds will get blown up in 4K for me to watch.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah well ruskies got all then and also a win in the end.
When avdivka whatever that shithole is called finally falls I'll move to reddit for couple of days to feast on pain&cope of the redditors. I'll leave you east euros and copebelters to mourn in peace.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>I'll move to reddit
at least you admit it moron
3 months ago
Anonymous
yeah, I do and there's nothing you can do about it, just like with war in onkraine.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>poor crying russians are migrating across the entire internet, looking for safe places that dont laugh their ass off at russian pathetic performance in this Special Military Disaster
you're gonna have a hard time finding a place that wont laugh its ass off at Russia being proud of itself it only took 2389798748293798 tanks and dead mobiks to move the front by 1,3 meters.
3 months ago
Anonymous
in 2 years.
you forgot to add, 2 years.
3 months ago
Anonymous
always makes me laugh when they get offended that even the supposed shithole of the internet can't stand them lmao
BACK TO RUSSIAN FORUMS YOU GO VATNIKS
3 months ago
Anonymous
They aren't even russians, they are either pajeets or vatnik loving mutts
3 months ago
Anonymous
vatnik americans/europeans are the most disgusting shit.
3 months ago
Anonymous
kys israelite
3 months ago
Anonymous
you are more pathetic than even the most jobless african refugee. at least they understand the west is better than the backwater shitholes they come from.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>west is better
my life goal is to get worked to death and make other people rich...
3 months ago
Anonymous
Yes that's how Russia functions. Glad you identified it.
3 months ago
Anonymous
better than getting killed in the 97th attempt to take avdiivka you pathetic swine.
3 months ago
Anonymous
wow you actually are a israelite
3 months ago
Anonymous
>ur a israelite ur a israelite!
that all you got, you neckbearded degenerate?
3 months ago
Anonymous
deny that you are israeli lol
>my tax dollars
guys look at this Black person.
he thinks money are real, and - get that, he thinks HIS money are in ukraine.
lmao kids grow up.
wow thank you
3 months ago
Anonymous
that's legitimately all you have, moronic screeching about israelites in your walls. fricking sad, man. it's time to take your meds.
3 months ago
Anonymous
*tips menorah
crazy how i sniffed you out immediately, back to your tunnels yid
3 months ago
Anonymous
always makes me laugh when they get offended that even the supposed shithole of the internet can't stand them lmao
BACK TO RUSSIAN FORUMS YOU GO VATNIKS
pretty soon even russian own forums will be tired of it, no way russians are dumb enough to be proud of the front not moving for 3 years, lmao.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>no way russians are dumb enough to be proud of the front not moving for 3 years
They are pretty much slaves and cattle, they will do/say/make wherever the guy in charge tells them to
3 months ago
Anonymous
in 2 years.
you forgot to add, 2 years.
>Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky warned that if Bakhmut fell, Moscow would gain an "open road" for offensives deeper into the country.
Well he was right about something...
3 months ago
Anonymous
oh it's the anon that says "copebelters" all the time
3 months ago
Anonymous
are taking it for 2 years now
10 years.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Avdiivka was so unimportant that zelensky will fire his top general over losing it, lmao
3 months ago
Anonymous
>pretty much every single big time russian general suddenly disappeared in the last 2 years
yeah, they are probably celebrating moving the front by 3 cm in the last 3 years.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>general takes a 2 week leave >western portals spam news of his death
This isn't even wishful thinking at this point
3 months ago
Anonymous
>2 week leave >Hasn't been seen in 6
Kek
3 months ago
Anonymous
>not being an attention prostitute
Its really that unimaginable for you huh
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Gets replaced at his usual meeting with Shoigoy with some other random general
Lmao
3 months ago
Anonymous
>being attention prostitute for whole this time >not being an attention prostitute in last 6 weeks
yeah zigur consider webm
3 months ago
Anonymous
everyone in west knows no such thing as two weeks leave exist. maybe when you're on your deathbed.
3 months ago
Anonymous
why are you coping moron?
3 months ago
Anonymous
Why are you moronic, moron?
3 months ago
Anonymous
why are you coping moron?
3 months ago
Anonymous
I mean, its a total war situation so yeah its a bit weird if generals are on vacations
3 months ago
Anonymous
Russians value their own lives so low, they think 2 years to get 1 meter of land is worth the deaths of hundreds of thousands of russians. >be russian >arrive to the front >kills himself
amazing.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>So im glad you're starting to understand that the more they try to keep this shitshow going the worse it will be for them
for russian pigs
you need to grind the meat before you put it into the cauldron with vegetables (average mobik) and seasoning (salt and pepper) and probably a bunch of liquid
>David Axe
but that being said >Russian artillery >Gathering
Have we already forgotten the lines of D-20s getting sent straight to Stalin early in the war?
Russia doesn't have a clear strategy option that can decapitate the enemy. They can't cross the Dnieper and can't do amphibious landings in Odessa due to BSF being rekt. They can't push from north/Belarus due to it being heavily mined and even more urban, with any troop movements there being easily spotted. So this means ramming your head with WW1 losses against the enemy from the east where the Ukies can just retreat to the next "city" IF they were to lose (big if there).
Ukraine's strategy is way more simple. Taking Tokmak and blowing up Kerch bridgd will effectively cut the Russian forces in two and force them to retreat. This is something even Russians can figure out hence why they send everything and the kitchen sink in there. Gonna be an interesting year.
To be honest with you /k/opers, this caught me off guard too. I thought they'd just keep shelling the hohols until winter is over then get it done. This was much earlier than i expected. Guess they have other plans for spring
Can someone knowledgeable explain to me why we've had Bakhmut and now Avdiivka on the Russian side, but Ukraine easily took Kherson in the autumn of 2022? If the answer is just logistics, aka bridges, haven't the Ukrainians been facing semi-encirclements to cut off supplies?
>Can someone knowledgeable explain to me why we've had Bakhmut and now Avdiivka on the Russian side, but Ukraine easily took Kherson in the autumn of 2022?
You can do it big boy shill, just google Kherson map and take a good look at it, i am sure you are smart enough to figure it out.
And by the way it took months and 30k+ casualties for Ukrainians to force a pporly supplied russian salient to retreat and they left 25k of the best Russian troops just slip between their fingers because they lacked the initiative or manpower to press forward.
Literally botched miny Dunkirk.
To whoever programmed this bot you did a poor job.It needs to diversify its replies.I suggest stacking more big data and retraining the model on it before running it again on my board.
Thank you.
So called 'LPR' Minister of Emergency Situations Alexey Poteleshchenko died as a result of a strike by the Ukrainian army on a bakery in the city of Lysychansk on February 3, a representative of the region's occupational Ministry told TASS.
https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1754475780518678554
Oh right, I forgot only pro-UA comments are allowed here.
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Where have I heard this metoidichka before? Oh yeah, Bakhmut lmao.
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Where have I heard this metoidichka before? Oh yeah, Bakhmut lmao.
https://i.imgur.com/edHUGV8.png
[...] >posting the bakhmut pasta
frick i love this board.
[...] >and equipment issues (no US military aid)
No one tell him
Fact: EU aid is only to finance the government, it's not military aid except for military wages.
Fact: EU stockpiles, especially of older Soviet studf, are low. They simply cannot provide the same level of military aid as the US did.
Fact: US aid is still blocked, some morons here think because it passed the Senate that ammo is being sent to Ukraine as we speak, but it has to pass the house still. And Republicans there already stated they will not support the bill.
Fact: Ukraine is running on fumes, expecting arms deliveries soon. Without US aid, in a couple of months they will simply not have the means to defend in some places. Partly this is related to Zelensky being deaf for his commanders and ordering to defend every centimeter instead of using strategic depth. Also the reason he's firing Zaluzhny, strategically a bad move.
Fact: Ukraine is also having manpower issue, and Zelensky is refusing to mobilize the required men.
Last "aid" package from EU is like $50bil or what 260-270€ per employee so yeah, if you're not on social welfare it is your money, or at least it was.
Meanwhile chinks instead of burning that money into ashes are investing it to build new factories and infrastructure and 30 years down the road we'll be so fricked.
you are a moron
Chinks literally burn that money on pointless shit
EU money will at least kill Russians > if you're not on social welfare it is your money, or at least it was.
you still get your money you moron
i just paid IN 13k frick you. countries buying our left over shit does nothing for me, homosexual.
>MONEY SENT ABROAD IS DIRECTLY TAKEN FROM ME IN THE FORM OF TAXES
I see someone has never taken economics 101 or is familiar on how FIAT currency functions.
"your" tax dollars (I doubt you actually work, you troglodyte) go mainly towards reviving and strengthening the US MIC. Countries are lining up to buy US equipment that proved itself in the war, in large batches.
You sending leftover shit ALSO does nothing to you, you absolute moron. Do you think those Bradleys are new or something? They were literally rotting out in the desert.
yeah dude refurbing retrofitting and shipping armor across the globe + training a bunch of morons slavs is free
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the price is killing Russian pigs you moron
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?? oh wow dude
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how he felt typing this
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That outfit + sword costs more than the entire zigger's gear including the zigger's own life
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Powerful? so it seems
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It's literally peanuts compared to actually building new equipment. And what's more - who exactly trains the slavs and refurbishes the equipment? Which country are the factories in?
I have the feeling that Russians are better at urban combat than crossing fields and vehicular asaaults.
Shouldn't Ukraine just retreat to the next defense line behind Avdiivka and murder tank/mt-lb ziggers like they did on the flanks of Avdiivka for the last three months?
Its okay man. They didn't need Avdeevka, just like they didn't need Mariupol, Bakhmut, Marinka, Soledar, Sievierodonetsk, Pisky or Lysychansk. Trust the plan
It's probably over since they've cut down those signs so that Z team couldn't make selfies since Zelensky was out of his mind furious about Z selfies in Bakhmut in urinal factory where he delivered his "historic speech".
[...] >Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky warned that if Bakhmut fell, Moscow would gain an "open road" for offensives deeper into the country.
Well he was right about something...
are those Zelenskis in room with us?
Also check this funny webm
>being attention prostitute for whole this time >not being an attention prostitute in last 6 weeks
yeah zigur consider webm
>Donald Trump wins the elections >he doubles down on funding to Ukraine >gives them everything they want >"well yes thats good business, its the best deal in the history of best deals".
i would laugh my fricking ass off if that happened.
He won't, because it'd make the Dem's look incompetent if the funding gets cut, make him look like a guy that's important to "save" shit, and he's chin to balls deep on the idea that once the polar ice caps melt he'll be able to sort some lucrative trade lane deal with Russia.
Doesn't matter what the average Republican wants him to do, he doesn't give a shit.
>tax dollars
50 billion divided by 335 million (US pop) results in about $149 per every male/female/attack helicopter citizen (adult or child). That's around the full price of Crusader Kings 3 with all DLCs (so far).
You think he'll just give up on 3rd term, just like that?
He'll probably argue it's not 3rd term in a row or something stupid like that but backed up by best lawyers and millions of dollars.
The funniest part of your ghost cities is that they were meant to be used for insurance fraud, but it blew up in your faces because you burned your own money rather than someone else's.
Post Snake Island
Post 1st Guards Tank Army
Post 4th Guards Tank Division
Post 3rd Army Corps
Post Northern Front
Post Hostomel x3
Post Moskva
Post Odessa landings
Post zig zag trenches with grenade sumps and basic fortifications
Post intact ammo depots
Post PGMs
Post missiles that actually hit their targets
Post Russian soldier that hasn't had their butthole resized
Post negative HIV test
Post relatives over the age of 62
Post encrypted comms
Post unexpired rations
Post spare tires that don’t deflate
Post tourniquets with a windlass mechanism
Post optics
Post NVGs
Post an AA system that hasn't routinely gotten dunked on by drones
Post living VDV and Spetznatz with all limbs intact
Post sugar
Post bread
Post cheese
Post non defaulted currency
Post industry that can process raw goods
Post domestic semiconductor manufacturing
Post Nord Stream pipeline
Post Baltic Sea control
Post river crossings without double digit casualty rates
Post aircraft not routinely gibbed by MANPADs
Post sensor suites in a non potato resolution
Post a competent NCO corps
Post Kyiv
Post bridges and pontoons
Post control of the Black Sea
Post Russians being cool with returning to a pre-industrial agrarian economy
Post Finland and Sweden now being NATO members
Post how you feel about being dependent on North Korea and Iran because not even China wants your money more than they enjoy seeing more dead conscriptovich kino
Post how Russians feel about being viewed the world over as one tiny step better than North Korea
Post families receiving money for the death of their sons and fathers
Post literally any positive outcome Russian can expect to have even if they 'win'
Post Lyman
Post Izyum
Post Kharkiv
Post Kherson
Post commercial shipping insurance
Post Robotyne
Post Prigozhin
Post Crimean S-400 and beach defenses
Post airbases NOT on fire
Post Kilo submarine and landing vessel
Post Sevastopol drydocks
Post Avdiivka
Post IL76 with crest POW corpses
Post 20% of the Black Sea Fleet
Technically they don't need to force conscript meat for the grinder just yet, the meat is lining up for service thanks to the amount of money they promise, more than they'd make in their entire lives normally. Marshoigian reform, essentially. The level of motivation of such troops will be questionable, especially after they see entire companies get droned or their base himars'd/glsdb'd. Hopefully, we'll see lots of mutinies since barrier troops won't be able to sodomize that amount of mobiks, logistically speaking.
Anon, Ziggers are nothing more than obedient slave cattle. No one will care if another 10,000 will perish there but it'll be celebrated by the usual suspects as a huge success/victory and anything contrary to that is nothing but /k/ope. Russian lives are worthless and the vatniks will gloat about this fact.
Yeah, you only lost about 1k vehicles, used several hundred thousand shells that you can't replenish in sufficient numbers, and lost several divisions' worth of troops just to capture a pile of rubble. Oh, and the best part? You still haven't captured it.
so true, I hope by 2050 russia can liberate at the very least 50% of globohomosexual occupied territory. After that it's only gonna take them a few hundred years to take over the Europe
Is there a way to calculate dead russians per meter gained?
Wtw i don't hate russia, just trying to understand or visualize how they value life over there.
GOOD MOOOOOORNING SAAR
>begins
So it's going to be
>The russians take a few buildings in the middle bit of the town after losing an absurd amount of men and equipment
>They'll spend the next several months going back and forth over the buildings, taking far too many casualties
>If they do manage to push the ukrainians out of the town they'll be left with...a ruined town with no real immediate value
again?
I really don't understand this, it's like every time russia runs into a difficult, well-defended town their hindbrain kicks in and they all go "blyat we gotta take it" even if there's just no point in it.
With Bakhmut, had they actually managed to take it early on into the battle it would've majorly threatened other parts of the front, but they still kept it up after the opportunity had passed. I don't see any other way to call this behavior besides like "Bakhmut Syndrome".
Monke needs his "big" 2024 win and a suburb of Donetsk is a "worthy" prize
I mean i don't even think it's that, they tried to gloat about "Taking bakhmut" and then shut up about it after a few weeks. It might just be desperation to try and accomplish anything but my best guess is that the army is being run without a head so to speak.
>Monke doesn't actually understand the situation, so doesn't establish a strategy
>The generals have a better view, but since monke doesn't understand, they follow his orders, and they don't establish a strategy
>The frontline officers are more or less being left to run the show on their own, and since they have no clue what the actual strategy is, that defaults to "Let's attack this target"
>Nobody knows what the next step is besides "Attack" and "resupply/reinforce"
'General Armageddon' might have genuinely been russia's best bet, since he actually seemed to be trying to establish a strategy, even if it was a shit one.
Leaving Kherson was the right move and while his campaign against infrastructure failed, it could have been potentially crippling
Wonder what he's up to now
house arrest sadly. picked the wrong tsar to back lol
Nah it seems like he was uhhh...elected as a head of the Coordinating Committee for Air Defence for CIS, which sounds like a really nothingburger position
Poor egg. He might be an evil egg but getting grounded sucks.
Not in that war if you're a Russian. His assignment out of the way preserves his future career if Putin finds use for his loyalty if not his talent.
Surovkin arrested. No more eggs.
Coincidence?
He's now the military attache of the Russian embassy in Algeria.
With Worms Armageddon gone Gerasimov was put in charge and he has to have some overarching strategy since both the 2022/2023 and now 2023/2024 winters featured disastrous Russian offensives into fortified positions (Vuhledar, Avdiivka, not counting Bakhmut since that started before he was in charge)
Obviously the end goal is seizing Donbas, but what purpose do these attacks serve? Draining Ukrainian resources to weaken their next offensive? Keep initiative on Russian side? Is he convinced that overcoming the main strongpoint in an area will trigger a general retreat or collapse? I don't know, but there is some sort of strategy in place since there is a pattern to these actions
>Is he convinced that overcoming the main strongpoint in an area will trigger a general retreat or collapse?
Wasn't that the general idea behind Bakhmut, but due to taking very, very long time it became pointless because ukies simply fortified positions behind it during the fighting?
That was what the shills were saying, but I think Surovikin was a bit more realistic than that. He went on the defensive everywhere and only kept Bakhmut, a mainly infantry battle, going
It was a crude but ultimately way better way to drain Ukraine's resources using Wagner + Priggy was seemingly good friends with Surovikin and probably convinced him to let him have his win at Bakhmut
Putin's grand-strategy is to:
1. Take all of Donetsk
2. Exhaust Ukraine so they plead for mercy.
3. Sue for a ceasefire once they have done the two above goals.
He thinks Ukraine will gladly rush to a ceasefire.
not him but i believe that Monke believes he needs this win ASAP. the russian presidential election, while an obvious sham, still matters to him somewhat, and is only a month and a half away. not that Monke can lose it, but to avoid potential civil unrest from him winning it he needs good enough reasons for him to logically win, even if it is taking a single town after two years of fighting for it. russian media can spin that story to the moon and back, and losing a shitload of mobiks and equipment is a lot better to him than what he truly fears, whether that be balkanization of russia or getting Gaddafi'd.
Russia got a lot of money in the first year of the war by still selling gas at a high price to Europe and selling oil at a very high price to the world. Now these things aren't there anymore and the people will see economic suffering this year. On top of this Putin will need to do a second mobilization wave to rotate many soldiers out of Ukraine. He needs there to be no doubt that people support him in the elections.
>rotate
lol, you don't get rotated or relieved as a mobik, just replaced
What was his win in 2023?
B-ack!mutt
is it gonna be harder since Ukraine is softer due to shitheads in congress blocking the aid package? that's really all i feel concerned about, pretty optimistic they'll do fine with or without the aid at this point
Yes and no. Europe is starting to pick up some of the slack on getting the ukies weaponry, but they're going to have to rely on their own stuff a bit more. Basically the entire ukrainian military leadership, even those in disagreement about other parts of strategy, are saying:
>"We need to start doing more with less, so we need to start going all in on cheap weapons that perform beyond their price point"
Which is why ukraine wants to make a million FPV drones this year. Drones, mines, and artillery as the ukrainians can provide it are going to make it very very ugly for the russians to grind them out of avdiivka. "Easier" will be mostly academic for the thousands of casualties it's going to take.
I don't think it's quite correct to think of Ukraine as "softer" due to reduced aid, but definitely they're going to be getting more creative and more invested in domestic solutions.
>shitheads in congress blocking the aid package
Good news!
https://news.yahoo.com/us-senate-unveils-border-deal-015733246.html
It's not 100% final yet but that looks like $60 billion on top of the $54bn (50bn euros) that the EU passed plus the $3 billion that the UK is sending. That's a lot of funding overall when you consider the NHS for the whole of the UK runs on a budget of 164.9 billion quid or $208.02bn.
I seriously doubt the republicans can pull their heads out of their asses for long enough to do something that isn't fricking everybody over for a talking point.
If it passes, it's a miracle, but how I see it it's dead on arrival.
lol you need to get better talking points from your supervisor, these don't resonate with the board culture at all.
Spend some more time reading your manuals.
>y-y-y-y-y-you're a fed! everybody loves the republican party! they love the dickheads who constantly sabotage gun rights with compromises!
Try harder homosexual
Wtf I love Joe Biden now!
Slava Ukraine!
MAGA traitors gonna topedo this. republican party is Putin's greatest ally right there with Iran and Norks
The Dems should add some "frick Iran" provisions to the package (alongside aid to Israel and Ukraine), and negotiate it as a lump item, so it can't get picked apart (though I'm not sure how easy that would be). Many Repubs salivate at the thought of kicking Iran in the balls, though I'm not sure whether it would pass, even in this form.
Wonder if the EU agreement has something to do with Republicans becoming more cooperative
Maybe they were banking on Orban (they really like him for some reason) not bending, but now they look like the only major anti-Ukrainian force in the West which isn't a good look
Republicans said they want to have and aid package to Israel alone no mention of Ukraine due its not pleasing to trump and he wants Ukrane to fail due he chould blame it on biden for another failure like Afghanistan. It's politics at worst moments but hey atlest Europe is stepping up since we know we can't reliabley trust Americans and they long have been signaling they want to go play in the pacific agianst China
>failure like Afghanistan
>we can't reliabley trust Americans
ivan please
No dude Afgan pull out was a right decision its that Republicans paraded that it was a Biden failure and most everyday Americans believe them even though they finished off taliban just enough for the ANA to end them solidifying their legitimacy and we all saw how that ended.
And trusting the Americans we see now that aid to ukrane is not favorable to trump hence why the House dosent want to pass it. What's to say when shit atcualy kicks off in NATO country that any politician will want to send troops or material I mean I'd dosent affect them directly
I am not reading that bullshit ivan.
Yeah it was a failure? Only thing about it not a failure was finally cutting our losses and pulling out
Obviously the US relocated their forces from Afghanistan to help Ukraine, it's not a failure.
Man VatBlack folk really want people to vote blue.
Did ya miss that compromat comrade Carlson is on a dick sucking mission in Moscow to get the newest directive for the republicans?
You don't even need to remember trump impeachment even today's news show you who vatnig want to vote for.
And yet Russia only does shit when Blue is in office. weird really.
Now that he's off the air. No one listens to him anymore.
Wherever the eventual ceasefire line falls is going to be the border for the foreseeable future, every little scrap counts, this might be Russia's last ever chance to expand west.
>Wherever the eventual ceasefire line falls is going to be the border for the foreseeable future, every little scrap counts, this might be Germany's last ever chance to expand west
T.his guy, March 1918
It does not really matter because when Putin eventually kicks the bucket, the following Russian goverment will follow the appeasement policies with the West, including withdrawing completely from internationally recognized borders of Ukraine.
Pointless waste of time and lives, but such is russia.
Putin is unironically the only person in Russia willing to put up with the corrupt oligarchic nightmare that is russia (I have to admire monke for making his system kinda work, most other world leaders would have Control + A + Deleted the whole government and tried something new). The next guy in charge is gonna have to deal with it and will probably blame (in typical Russian fashion) the evil hato west for fricking up his country and shieet we dindu noffin dey impose sanctions on us for no reason shiieeet, russians have a habit of doing this btw.
>The next guy in charge is gonna have to deal with it and will probably blame (in typical Russian fashion) the evil hato west for fricking up his country
Or he might just blame it on Putin and try to normalize relations with the West again. I'd think that at this point everybody in the Russian elite circles is on board with this war just because nobody wants to risk ending up like Prigo. Once Putin is out of the picture, there will be hell of a lot more important stuff going on in Russia than in Ukraine anyway, and the next leader can easily blame Putin for shitting the bed for everybody.
absolutely not. Monke represents the KGB clan that is in control of the Kremlin. His successor is already established and is directly connected to patrushev who himself is the godfather of the red glowie cland and well known hardline anti-westerner
>Monke represents the KGB clan that is in control of the Kremlin.
which is less than 150 people at this point, most of who are not much younger than monkie, and their children (and grandchildren) have spent the last 30 years living in the EU/USA. I don't think you understand how "expired" Russia is in terms of leadership.
Appeasement with the west will happen after monkie death simply because there are so few people who care AND have the loyalty Putin has cultivated.
The alternative is a dysfunctional warlord-state (worse than now) where Ukrainians drones destroy the only economic infrastructure that matters.
also russian trad elite offspring is more interested in hedonistic endeavours, partying like it's the last time or moving to the west to live a lavish life instead of doing something for their glorious motherland
What makes you think there will be one?
Until Ukraine builds the capacity to have air superiority in the air space and then does what competent militaries do and encircles the urban area instead of trying to take it with years-long meat waves.
This is what Russia *theoretically* should have been able to do on day 1 with its claimed military equipment; but apparently can't due to training or doctrinal deficiencies. So here's Avdeevka, a Frontline settlement for 10 years, just 20 miles out from the courthouse of the Donetsk Meme Republic - and apparently a major breakthrough in the 3rd year of Russian invasion of Ukraine and a centerpiece of Vladimir Putin's bid for "reelection".
Let's not forget that it's defended by people on top of a small mountain of slag and refuse. Russia's inability to project power even so close to its borders continues to become ever more baffling.
People already said Bakhmut was the battle that would bleed Russia and leave it vulnerable and here we are.
Bakhmut finished Wagner off and make Putin run for his life
worth it totally
And turdworlders said Bakhmut would lead to the collapse of Ukrainians in the Donbas yet here we are.
>and here we are.
yes, it appears many more russians are going to have to die after all.
I like how ziggers memory holed the Wagner prank on Moscow.
Putin’s 4d chess. Next you’re going to say Stalin’s purges were not planned
What's even more impressive is that the russian air force lost a bunch of its people and assets to Wagner and it just had to live with the entire event being memory holed by the government and Wagner being seen as heroes by a lot of russians.
this gif always needs music
And pepe band
If you don't automatically hear it from the visual alone then you're all kinds of fricked up
>People already said Bakhmut was the battle that would bleed Russia
No, they said that after Bakhmut Ukraine would totally collapse.
Bakhmut led to a litteral coup attempt
morons still believe in the fake coup
>Haha, just a prank, Putin bro
>What's that missile flying at my plACK
This was a theatre moron
You don't even know what Maskirovka is
>2024
>still believing Putin is le based 5D chess master
Appear weak when you are strong...
Sure, sure, but what did that little bit of theatre actually...accomplish? Who needed to be tricked into thinking russia was weak? What was the strategic advantage of giving russians panic attacks about reliving the 90s again?
russians are moronic there's no way to know what was their plan
It was a theatre to relocate the experienced Wagner troops (you don't know where they are and where they will strike next and neither does western intelligence) and to prepare Russian people for hardships. Russia is playing the long game and will be on war footing for a very long time...the Long Patriotic War if you will
Too obvious anon
>It was a theatre to relocate the experienced Wagner troops
They could have easily done it without losing men and aircraft and without embarrassing themselves.
Refurbished props
You don't think it's suspicious that all that happens is they walk around for a bit AND shoot down two valuable air assets? No shots fired by ground troops? No vehicles moving more than a snail's pace? You shit on everything vatniks do, but when it's the fakest shit ever, oh no, that one's real, couldn't possibly be an extremely unconvincing op.
>and will be on war footing for a very long time...
That bit is actually true
Russian people will BEG and wish they could live again on the 90s instead of the massive shitstorm that is going to be the upcoming years
>Panic attacks
The people hugging Wagner troops as they passed through and giving them beers didn't seem very panicked.
I think that's the thing people fail to get. Russians hate Putin, hate his regime of corruption that reaches down into every vorner of their lives to frick with them but will not under any circumstances lift a finger to do anything about it.
the king is rarely overthrown by peasants
he is overthrown by the Lords, the other elites, the Landstandt
The Lords, the Elites and the Landstadt are emboldened by peasant disorder and motivated to take action when incentivised by peasant action against their wallets.
But he is weak at the moment.
Everyone wondered why it took that zar so long to get dressed.
Everyone saw he was naked
I can't tell if these are real vatniks or just people pretending. Like, the ziggers have got so moronic they can't be parodied.
you have to be a moron to believe the coup was real
Maskirovka is...making yourself seem incredibly unstable to both your enemies and allies?
It was 7D chess to put Wagner close to Kiev and Poland *~~)
it's was clearly a show you moron
yeah, clearly
Ziggers were telling me the fall of Bakhmut meant Ukraine was finished.
Remind me, what happened to wagner?
Random map with red arrow? I believe it
it has taken russians nearly a year for this development
now its time for bakhmut 2
Don't worry, having the siege tightened around your city is classic NATO doctrine. This is one of the final operational maneuvers before you win the whole war, 100% guaranteed.
>Don't worry, sending thousands of men to die to capture a city is classic Russian doctrine. This is one of the final operational maneuvers before you win the whole war, 100% guaranteed.
classic NAFO capture one city win the war
>classic NATO doctrine
That's right, how many NATO soldiers died during the siege of Bakhmut compare to russians btw?
>city
The fricking cope lmfao
have a nice day
And miss out on Ukraine's glorious reconquest of their historic lands? Never!
have a nice day
>it doesn't matter that we're in a stalemate taking casualty and equipment losses at rates often approaching 9:1 because you haven't killed us hard enough yet!
If you have a line to the russian high command, please convince them of your worldview immediately
>taking casualty and equipment losses at rates often approaching 9:1
Loving
Every
Laugh
Oh look at that, 9:1 losses
Next time make it look like a Twitter post, that will be way more credible.
Where do (you) get your info from then? I hope not /misc/. That's a brownoid board
Pottery.
Denying reality this hard can't be good for your health.
Who are you trying to convince?
I always wonder about the shill zigger strategy.
What's their goal?
>make us believe russia is winning
The more shilling the more russia is losing everybody knows
>form a narrative
We know already that everything a zigger says is allmost reliably the exact opposite of the truth
>make us like them
Shilling pushes literally every sane being towards TZD moderate style
What the fricking point?
They mostly do it to convince themselves
It's actually closer to 13:1, which is even funnier.
Frick off zigger shill it's at least 20:1
>Literally cannot stop shrieking petulantly when people prove him wrong
lmao
Not implausible
>20:1
Yeah, there were at least 20 in this one. Ukrainian 1 casualty was the drone operator who got PTSD from watching the moneyshot in real-time.
Nah, he lost his sides after they went into orbit.
God damn anon you cannot post pornography like that on a blue board.
Lmao, no wonder Ukraine is happy to sit back and defend. Unironically all they should do is goad Russians into attacking and maul them when they do.
"Only" roughly 400,000 Russian soldiers have died so far in this 3 day special military operation against a pathetic vassal state of Russia that they could easily crush if they took the gloves off the ass
>pic
the chode of Avdeevka is firmly in Russian ass, now everyone will know everything
>It's a 50k ziggers die to take a pre-war town episode
Kino its back to the menu
how many hundreds will drown crossing that lake?
they have wiped out the Russian presence in the city
Russians were crawling into Adiivka using duck walk within a 2km long underground pipe, like feces
>The Avdiivkashank Redemption
oh no zisters how could this have happened to our perfect plans????
>150 Russians crawled into Adiivka using underground pipe
>assaulted the defences from behind and drove the Ukies out
>gets a narrow bulwark into the city 3 streets wide
>Russia column rumbles to frontline to join the assaulters
>Ukies immediately throw assaults at the neck of the bulwark and pinch it off
>Column gets destroyed right away with ATGMs and drones
>now 150 men supplied by 50 men every 2 hours are assaulted by full Ukie firepower - drones dropping tank mines, Bradleys, T-64s, assault platoons, only the 50 men every 2 hours keeping things alive
It's beautiful, it's like Flea Market Garden
>underground pipe
Can't tell if joking any more.
It's not a joke anon
if there is a political outcome and the Russian military leaves on its own accord, at some level it would have done itself proud and maintained its fearsome reputation, no matter how fricked up their equipment are and how bad their officers, the normal Russian soldier still wars and still attacks. You don't want to tangle with a street army like that.
gr8 b8 m8. I'm Johnny Hamburger from Tokyo Oblast and I agree.
Nope, the Russians are trying to get past defenses via the sewers. We're achieving full on WW1 conditions now complete with tunnel warfare.
Confirmed by Ukies.
watch the video homosexual
>the pipe was a trap
it's not a trap they killed a bunch of Ukies by attacking the perimeter defence from behind
Nah, even zigger telegram channels were lamenting it just got a bunch of their own killed for no real reason.
it turned bad because the morons should have rolled the tanks the moment they evicted the Ukies from the bridge area, not 2 days later
I think everyone on both sides was just immensely shocked it worked
>crawling through a pipe to your certain doom
Christ, what sort of pipe was it anyway, what did it transport?
they say sewage pipe from a water treatment plant
sewage, that's how the Russians managed to blend in and pass undetected
the funny thing is they are sending a reinforced platoon every 2 hours with ammo up the sewage pipe, backflow the sewage
>drones dropping tank mines, Bradleys, T-64s
Imagine a full-on cloud of small drones dropping Bradleys and T-64s on you and your comrades.
WARNING SNEAK ATTACK DETECTED
>drones dropping tank mines, Bradleys
>drones dropping Bradleys
IMAGINE
>Company of Heroes
a man of culture
recently played the italian campaign of 3 and man is it fricking weak. this game was known for it's well made ingame cinematics, an eye for detail and a somewhat entertaining plot copying stuff like james ryan and BoB but ever since the bastogne add-on of 2 they attempt to turn it into some grand strategy game but with shitty shallow mechanics, soulless and repetitive gameplay and overall lower quality. what the frick happened after CoH2 basegame?
I assume they mean dropping tank mines in areas where vehicles are expected, but I do wonder if you could modify a tank mine to detonate when dropped. That would be one hell of a big boom to drop via drone on unsuspecting mobiks or vehicles.
Although I guess maybe tank mines wouldn't be effective like that? Are they shaped charges and only really effective at destroying vehicles that are directly above them and dropping one "point first" would just dig a narrow deep hole in whatever it lands on? I suspect if you could just drop a mine and gib a group of soldiers we'd already have video of it happening.
?feature=shared it's been done already. You can use AT mines but you need bigger drone for it
I wonder how long until we see Claymores getting strapped to quads as guided airburst munitions, I imagine it'd be pretty effective.
?feature=shared it's been also done lmao. Idk if its claymore there but at least works like one
ROLL UP ROLL UP AND PLACE YOUR BETS
How much of Avdiivka will puccia control after six days (the time it took the US Army to capture the entirety of Baghdad)
All bets accepted but best odds on;
>1 building, 5:1
>1 street, 10:1
>1 block, 50:1
Puccia will lose all the houses they occupied in Avdiivka a week from now.
You're doing it wrong anon
>1-3: 1 building
>4-6: 2 buildings
>7-9: 3 buildings
>dubs: 1 street
>trips: 1 block
>quads: mutliple blocks
>quints: Avdiivka falls
You forgot
>0: Avdiivka doesn't fall until 2123
You forgot to add "another sewer pipe".
>verification not required
Every house a Pavlov's House
Every mobik a cube
Such is monke's will
The "coup" was probably and excuse for Prigo to get out of Ukraine because Wagner's losses were unsustainable.
It was a clever trick to move Wagner to Belarus so they can threaten Ukraine's northern flank.
Nothing came out of it.
>Priggy didn't care about losses
He knew Wagner would seize to exist if he continued. He knew there was not point to continue so he wanted a ticked out.
If he was that desperate to leave, he could've just packet a suitcase full of gold and fricked off to some corner of the world, instead of trying to swing at the king and pussying out when it was go time.
Now he doesn't have to go back to Ukraine anymore.
He also wanted to run for presidency. He thought a coup would be a good way to get support. The whole thing was just a show for the people.
>It was a clever trick to move Wagner to Belarus
They could have simply moved Wagner to Belarus without the embarrassing shitshow.
>without the embarrassing shitshow.
yeah but then we'd miss out on an embarrassing shitshow which we can't afford.
Priggy didn't care about losses, he just knew Bakhmut was the height of his relevancy and popularity + the MoD requested Wagner to fold and sign contracts around the same time
It was now or never
Have I missed something, or is this thread about the capture of five, possibly six, fields outside a small town in Bumfrick, Nowhere?
That's the funny thing about this war.
If the country was the size of Australia, then those farmlands would be more proportional to all the lives lost in the battle.
Are there even any buildings left to fight in there? I thought it was the place that got levelled harder than Bakhmut since 2014
another reason why vatnik shills are mad today
warcrime
>russians still holding birthday parties in active warzone
insanity
it makes no sense because the story didnt happen, it is a hohol manufacture
>Russians hold party or gathering near the frontline and get bombed because surprise surprise there were informers there
Are you stupid?
>Ukrainians hold party or gathering near the frontline and get bombed because surprise surprise there were informers there
Seriously YOU bombed the russian gathering and should know better.
>Russians hold party or gathering near the frontline and get bombed AGAIN because surprise surprise there were informers there AGAIN
Fine go get killed because you want to have a party who cares anymore.
>meatgrinder
You told me we'd be getting a cauldron
It it a cauldron
> ayden
ok
>ayden
>copelord repost
>david axe
Its like you zigger lolcows enjoy humiliating yourselves in here.
>cauldron posting
BROS WE'RE SO BACK
It was nice while it lasted. Hope they make this easy for our boys and surrender already or we'll have to kill all the piggies trapped there down the last
Hope they catch redditor or two there.
it's so over nato sisters,,,
>those arrows
kek, i like the hato orb bit too
btw this guy knows literally nothing holy frick what a dumbass
>opening of the fields
>fields
>push reserves
>through fields
>drone spotted artillery exists
>push reserves through fields
it should be said 9000 times a thread so i'll say it again: the scale of all of these "le epic anti-reddit anti-nafo cauldroooons" is like 10 km at most. both sides can fire artillery at will, the constraint is forward observers/drones to do it. pushing infantry across open fields is literal fricking suicide, even suggesting it gives away that this ayden moron is mentally disabled.
And an open field is the only supply line that hohols have left now, pic rel. So im glad you're starting to understand that the more they try to keep this shitshow going the worse it will be for them
you're approaching this like your favorite football team versing some other team, fricking sad. if you feel this strongly about things go to a recruiting office you dirty fricking russian.
Not an argument moron
>argument
i'm calling you moronic, we're not having an argument.
How about this for an argument
> 500 vehicles lost
> 100k casualties
> for a village that's been on the frontline for the past 10 years
Is that good enough of an argument?
>So im glad you're starting to understand that the more they try to keep this shitshow going the worse it will be for them
Why? Russians suffer tremendous losses going offensive on highly fortified positions, it's the worst or the best depends how you're looking at it.
Russia doesn't need to on the offensive anymore, all the main supply routes have been captured and the only thing left is a designated killing field that is being monitored by drones and arty 24/7
>Russia doesn't need to on the offensive anymore
So they're going to be at constant state of war.
korean scenario is most likely at this point
Isn't some shill from russian gov was trying to sell recently?
>korean scenario is most likely at this point
Those are two completely different situations.
>shill from russian gov
I wish I was that important.
Idk, looks like stalemate in Korea for me. So there will be western ukraine, eastern ukraine and 5km wide demilitarized zone in between.
>I wish I was that important.
I mean you're repeating some russian shilling,
>Idk, looks like stalemate in Korea for me.
Except nobody annexed Korea.
>So there will be western ukraine, eastern ukraine and 5km wide demilitarized zone in between.
Nah, Ukraine continue de-industrialization of russia until they withdraw from their territory.
>"2nd largest military in the world"
>can reach London in like 2 days
>has supersonic rockets that can destroy 100 gorgillion tanks before being shot down
>please please please just let us have a few km of area we promise we won't mess with you after that :~~*(
I guess getting the mostly ethnically zigger areas is a smart move, if they wanna be under russian control so bad then let them.
Snow Black person say what? Let's say you somehow capture Avdiivka after ten years of fighting, is the rest of Ukrainian-held donbabwe going to collapse in two weeks? Who's going to revolt against monke this time? Maybe the long suffering Puccian naval infantry?
i wouldn't even bother arguing with the moron, he can't understand the difference between doing max speed runs over fields in a humvee to resupply the troops already present and sending masses of attacking troops over fields on foot. this is going to be another bakhmut, solid ukrainian losses, maybe the loss of the town (through it being completely destroyed), 3-4x russian losses.
>moron wannabe-analyst makes a point he heard somewhere
>wasn't aware that said point applies more to hohols
>seethe after getting btfo
many such cases
it's ok if you're moronic but you need to learn to not post. fire control over fields in this scenario always hurts the attacker more than the dug in defender. are you like mentally stunted or something?
by the way post bmps and btrs.
>seriously asking a russian shill if he is either mentally challenged or a moron
huh
>we didn't need it anyways!
kek
yes moron they don't need it
>we didn't need this major logistics hub right next to donetsk
Cool, then you mind moving the dozens of brigades stationed there?
>this empty 10 meter potato field is.... *pick one*
>a superhuman astartes lab
>T virus resident evil lab
>a main logistics hub
>the avengers heli carrier is under the potato field
>We didn't need our ships and oil refineries anyway
kek!
>changing the goalpost
kek
>we didn't need it anyways
>we killed 6 gorrillion russians there
why is there a "major enemy logistics hub" 3 miles from the crown israeliteel of novorossiya, seymour?
>adidikaka
>russians are taking it for 2 years now
>they are crying that they need it super hard
>muh imaginary logistics hub
do you even know what a logistics hub is, or do you just type in random words.
are taking it for 2 years now
And ukros are defending it for 2 years and they'll lose it in the end and it was all for nothing.
>all for nothing.
2 Russian divisions bled dry lmao
>all for nothing
Piles of zigger corpses
daily clips of entire russian armored columns getting massacred was quite entertaining.
considering adidikaka still didnt fall, i wonder how many armored columnds will get blown up in 4K for me to watch.
Yeah well ruskies got all then and also a win in the end.
When avdivka whatever that shithole is called finally falls I'll move to reddit for couple of days to feast on pain&cope of the redditors. I'll leave you east euros and copebelters to mourn in peace.
>I'll move to reddit
at least you admit it moron
yeah, I do and there's nothing you can do about it, just like with war in onkraine.
>poor crying russians are migrating across the entire internet, looking for safe places that dont laugh their ass off at russian pathetic performance in this Special Military Disaster
you're gonna have a hard time finding a place that wont laugh its ass off at Russia being proud of itself it only took 2389798748293798 tanks and dead mobiks to move the front by 1,3 meters.
in 2 years.
you forgot to add, 2 years.
always makes me laugh when they get offended that even the supposed shithole of the internet can't stand them lmao
BACK TO RUSSIAN FORUMS YOU GO VATNIKS
They aren't even russians, they are either pajeets or vatnik loving mutts
vatnik americans/europeans are the most disgusting shit.
kys israelite
you are more pathetic than even the most jobless african refugee. at least they understand the west is better than the backwater shitholes they come from.
>west is better
my life goal is to get worked to death and make other people rich...
Yes that's how Russia functions. Glad you identified it.
better than getting killed in the 97th attempt to take avdiivka you pathetic swine.
wow you actually are a israelite
>ur a israelite ur a israelite!
that all you got, you neckbearded degenerate?
deny that you are israeli lol
wow thank you
that's legitimately all you have, moronic screeching about israelites in your walls. fricking sad, man. it's time to take your meds.
*tips menorah
crazy how i sniffed you out immediately, back to your tunnels yid
pretty soon even russian own forums will be tired of it, no way russians are dumb enough to be proud of the front not moving for 3 years, lmao.
>no way russians are dumb enough to be proud of the front not moving for 3 years
They are pretty much slaves and cattle, they will do/say/make wherever the guy in charge tells them to
>Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky warned that if Bakhmut fell, Moscow would gain an "open road" for offensives deeper into the country.
Well he was right about something...
oh it's the anon that says "copebelters" all the time
are taking it for 2 years now
10 years.
Avdiivka was so unimportant that zelensky will fire his top general over losing it, lmao
>pretty much every single big time russian general suddenly disappeared in the last 2 years
yeah, they are probably celebrating moving the front by 3 cm in the last 3 years.
>general takes a 2 week leave
>western portals spam news of his death
This isn't even wishful thinking at this point
>2 week leave
>Hasn't been seen in 6
Kek
>not being an attention prostitute
Its really that unimaginable for you huh
>Gets replaced at his usual meeting with Shoigoy with some other random general
Lmao
>being attention prostitute for whole this time
>not being an attention prostitute in last 6 weeks
yeah zigur consider webm
everyone in west knows no such thing as two weeks leave exist. maybe when you're on your deathbed.
why are you coping moron?
Why are you moronic, moron?
why are you coping moron?
I mean, its a total war situation so yeah its a bit weird if generals are on vacations
Russians value their own lives so low, they think 2 years to get 1 meter of land is worth the deaths of hundreds of thousands of russians.
>be russian
>arrive to the front
>kills himself
amazing.
>So im glad you're starting to understand that the more they try to keep this shitshow going the worse it will be for them
for russian pigs
Very organic
you need to grind the meat before you put it into the cauldron with vegetables (average mobik) and seasoning (salt and pepper) and probably a bunch of liquid
Good but we need some chilies in there to spice things up, do we have thermite in the kitchen?
every time I see a map of "Russian advances" I cant help but think of this sketch from "Blackadder"
Melchett: "what is the actual scale of this map, Darling?"
Darling: "Ah. one to one, sir"
Nah, they'll just plow it.
>David Axe
but that being said
>Russian artillery
>Gathering
Have we already forgotten the lines of D-20s getting sent straight to Stalin early in the war?
Russia doesn't have a clear strategy option that can decapitate the enemy. They can't cross the Dnieper and can't do amphibious landings in Odessa due to BSF being rekt. They can't push from north/Belarus due to it being heavily mined and even more urban, with any troop movements there being easily spotted. So this means ramming your head with WW1 losses against the enemy from the east where the Ukies can just retreat to the next "city" IF they were to lose (big if there).
Ukraine's strategy is way more simple. Taking Tokmak and blowing up Kerch bridgd will effectively cut the Russian forces in two and force them to retreat. This is something even Russians can figure out hence why they send everything and the kitchen sink in there. Gonna be an interesting year.
Ukraine's stategy is more simple but is it any more achievable?
Oh no, Ayden drew arrows on a map!
>still coping about it
gains confirmed by deepstatemap, its truly over this time. there's no way out of this
To be honest with you /k/opers, this caught me off guard too. I thought they'd just keep shelling the hohols until winter is over then get it done. This was much earlier than i expected. Guess they have other plans for spring
WHOA GUYS HOLY SHIT MIGHTY PUCCIA MAYBE WILL MOVE THE FRONT BY 3 CM IN 2024.
RUSSIA IS WINNING FRICK YOU, FAFO!
>it's hopeless for you
>pls pls pls surrender
Can someone knowledgeable explain to me why we've had Bakhmut and now Avdiivka on the Russian side, but Ukraine easily took Kherson in the autumn of 2022? If the answer is just logistics, aka bridges, haven't the Ukrainians been facing semi-encirclements to cut off supplies?
russia is incapable of tactics
>easily took Kherson
>Can someone knowledgeable explain to me why we've had Bakhmut and now Avdiivka on the Russian side, but Ukraine easily took Kherson in the autumn of 2022?
You can do it big boy shill, just google Kherson map and take a good look at it, i am sure you are smart enough to figure it out.
And by the way it took months and 30k+ casualties for Ukrainians to force a pporly supplied russian salient to retreat and they left 25k of the best Russian troops just slip between their fingers because they lacked the initiative or manpower to press forward.
Literally botched miny Dunkirk.
Source russian state media I guess?
To whoever programmed this bot you did a poor job.It needs to diversify its replies.I suggest stacking more big data and retraining the model on it before running it again on my board.
Thank you.
Why are you refusing to back your claims up?
>If the Napoleon and German WW2 campaigns are reliable indicators Russia gets stronger the longer the conflict goes on.
Weird, all these zigger posts coming in but the post count doesn't increase.
She enjoys the attention or she would have blocked him.
Kiev was strategically unimportant sisters, we didn't need it
Doesn't make any sense.
my gf would go straight for that pharmacy
I would walk straight into that warzone for a gf
man imagine actually living, irl, with these vatniks. they must be the creepiest most abusive people irl.
>heh Ukraine is winning tho
lol vatniks salivating about the biiiig kupyansk hammer was certainly a summer hit
they did manage take a few sqkm of forests so theres that
Hmm i wonder what happened that destroyed ukrainian economy? true mystery...
>British false flag
>picture spam
I can feel russian pain.
Some Lugandan minister got himars'd last night. I guess that's why they are shittin themselves
Why are globohomosexual shills lacking in numbers today even on their own containment board? Just imagine the slaughter on /misc/ kek.
>globohomo
I haven't heard this in a while. It seems russians are desperate.
>globohomo
grandpa, cool kids say "SJWs" again, you forgot your meds again?
>lacking in numbers today
probably some holiday in poland or india
So called 'LPR' Minister of Emergency Situations Alexey Poteleshchenko died as a result of a strike by the Ukrainian army on a bakery in the city of Lysychansk on February 3, a representative of the region's occupational Ministry told TASS.
https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1754475780518678554
>Minister of Emergency Situations
Guess his death was really an emergency situation
Fricking Poe's law
Can't decipher shit thru 10 layers of sarcasm
>sarcasm
>Black person shoots up your house
>property value goes down
>blames whitey for it
why are you coping moron?
Oh right, I forgot only pro-UA comments are allowed here.
Fact: EU aid is only to finance the government, it's not military aid except for military wages.
Fact: EU stockpiles, especially of older Soviet studf, are low. They simply cannot provide the same level of military aid as the US did.
Fact: US aid is still blocked, some morons here think because it passed the Senate that ammo is being sent to Ukraine as we speak, but it has to pass the house still. And Republicans there already stated they will not support the bill.
Fact: Ukraine is running on fumes, expecting arms deliveries soon. Without US aid, in a couple of months they will simply not have the means to defend in some places. Partly this is related to Zelensky being deaf for his commanders and ordering to defend every centimeter instead of using strategic depth. Also the reason he's firing Zaluzhny, strategically a bad move.
Fact: Ukraine is also having manpower issue, and Zelensky is refusing to mobilize the required men.
>he thinks house will save Russia
isnt he that one doctor guy whose kinda an butthole
>finance the government
It's not just govt but also pensions and all the wages of state employees.
fact: you are a moron
Can you back your claims up?
Where have I heard this metoidichka before? Oh yeah, Bakhmut lmao.
we keep giving ukraine more and more money why do they keep losing
Money? What money? Ukraine's been getting frick all for the last 3-4 months.
ukraine doesnt need money anymore, most russians just kill themselves as soon as they get to the frontlines.
russians are moronic pigs
are you saying we need to give them even more money?
>posting the bakhmut pasta
frick i love this board.
>and equipment issues (no US military aid)
No one tell him
why are you coping moron?
coping about what? my tax dollars being lit on fire in losing battle of attrition? i do enjoy footage tho, from either side
>my tax dollars being lit on fire
that would happen regardless you moron
stupid moron homosexual
>my tax dollars
guys look at this Black person.
he thinks money are real, and - get that, he thinks HIS money are in ukraine.
lmao kids grow up.
Last "aid" package from EU is like $50bil or what 260-270€ per employee so yeah, if you're not on social welfare it is your money, or at least it was.
Meanwhile chinks instead of burning that money into ashes are investing it to build new factories and infrastructure and 30 years down the road we'll be so fricked.
>Meanwhile chinks instead of burning that money into ashes are investing it to build new factories and infrastructure
More ghost cities?
>More ghost cities?
Are those bad thing? That must bring cost of real estate down, we would need that here too.
moron grasping at straws
If bugpeople are doing it then that means you shouldn't
you are a moron
Chinks literally burn that money on pointless shit
EU money will at least kill Russians
> if you're not on social welfare it is your money, or at least it was.
you still get your money you moron
>Chinks
>Economy
Lol
https://www.euronews.com/business/2024/01/29/enough-is-enough-with-300-billion-in-debt-court-says-its-time-to-liquidate-chinas-evergran
>China hard landing
CNN headline for 20+ years now...
Fact is they don't turn their money into ash in stupid wars.
They turn it into crumbling cities instead, I know.
>Fact is they don't turn their money into ash
they literally do you moron
Nah they turn it into concrete that has the consistency of styrofoam
Yes, they turn their money into ash with the chastity belt initiative that almost everyone bailed out from.
Meanwhile Russia turned their rubbles and population into ashes (literally) just so their strongman schizoid leader could larp as a czar
Yeah, they turn their money into two billion dollar train staion, that doesn't have any trains cause someone forgot to lay the tracks
>MONEY SENT ABROAD IS DIRECTLY TAKEN FROM ME IN THE FORM OF TAXES
I see someone has never taken economics 101 or is familiar on how FIAT currency functions.
"your" tax dollars (I doubt you actually work, you troglodyte) go mainly towards reviving and strengthening the US MIC. Countries are lining up to buy US equipment that proved itself in the war, in large batches.
i just paid IN 13k frick you. countries buying our left over shit does nothing for me, homosexual.
You sending leftover shit ALSO does nothing to you, you absolute moron. Do you think those Bradleys are new or something? They were literally rotting out in the desert.
yeah dude refurbing retrofitting and shipping armor across the globe + training a bunch of morons slavs is free
the price is killing Russian pigs you moron
?? oh wow dude
how he felt typing this
That outfit + sword costs more than the entire zigger's gear including the zigger's own life
Powerful? so it seems
It's literally peanuts compared to actually building new equipment. And what's more - who exactly trains the slavs and refurbishes the equipment? Which country are the factories in?
>my tax dollars
Johnny Appleburger from Idaho autonomous oblast i presume
Now we wait for more FPV videos of drones killing T-55s (Russia's Official MBT) and MT-LBs
>"MUH BASED TRUMP WILL SAVE US"
The most hilarious shit is that THIS is what monke and his stogies actually believe
I have the feeling that Russians are better at urban combat than crossing fields and vehicular asaaults.
Shouldn't Ukraine just retreat to the next defense line behind Avdiivka and murder tank/mt-lb ziggers like they did on the flanks of Avdiivka for the last three months?
Why would you retreat from heavily fortified positions?
Its okay man. They didn't need Avdeevka, just like they didn't need Mariupol, Bakhmut, Marinka, Soledar, Sievierodonetsk, Pisky or Lysychansk. Trust the plan
It's probably over since they've cut down those signs so that Z team couldn't make selfies since Zelensky was out of his mind furious about Z selfies in Bakhmut in urinal factory where he delivered his "historic speech".
are those Zelenskis in room with us?
Also check this funny webm
>Donald Trump wins the elections
>he doubles down on funding to Ukraine
>gives them everything they want
>"well yes thats good business, its the best deal in the history of best deals".
i would laugh my fricking ass off if that happened.
Have no doubt that Ruskies will give Trump everything he wants and even more just to frick with democrats and make them look incompetent.
my god when will you moronic american conservatives realize that the entire fricking world doesn't revolve around you?
except it does thats why we have israeli shills on boards like this policing what americans think
Too late
Remember the fires in Hawaii and how people went insane because "iTs A CoNsPiRaCy!" "MUH DEATH SPACE RAYS!" "BIDEN DID THIS"
What’s the tactical advantage of Russia making itself look like a vassal of a US president?
He won't, because it'd make the Dem's look incompetent if the funding gets cut, make him look like a guy that's important to "save" shit, and he's chin to balls deep on the idea that once the polar ice caps melt he'll be able to sort some lucrative trade lane deal with Russia.
Doesn't matter what the average Republican wants him to do, he doesn't give a shit.
Also "I saved the world from ww3".
If he wins this term, he'll win next one too.
>If he wins this term, he'll win next one too
Are you moronic?
lol
Is he one of the pipeboys?
Video has them near a bunch of houses and no battle sounds so probably ziggers that got in yesterday/today are mostly dead
Imagine the smell...
>mom come pick me up Im scared
Full video for those interested
https://files.catbox.moe/9oiegw.MP4
America secured Ecuador’s old Soviet stock for Ukraine and cutoff Russia from the world’s leading banana producer.
When your biggest ally is Trump.
LOOOOOOOL
>tax dollars
50 billion divided by 335 million (US pop) results in about $149 per every male/female/attack helicopter citizen (adult or child). That's around the full price of Crusader Kings 3 with all DLCs (so far).
go live in a ghost city moron
I would but there ain't any. Instead I need 160-170k€ for some shitty small apartment, in east Europe you work for that your whole life.
First you claimed you are American.
It was obvious since he thinks Trump can go for a third term
You think he'll just give up on 3rd term, just like that?
He'll probably argue it's not 3rd term in a row or something stupid like that but backed up by best lawyers and millions of dollars.
Are you merely pretending to be moronic?
no, that's real me, no acting there bro
that's a bargain compared to costs in britain
>170k€
A FRICKING ESL PAJEET
>160-170k€ for some shitty small apartment, in east Europe
you can buy a house for that in east europe you moronic shill
russian pigs are morons
how do you imagine Ukrainians are any different? literally the same homies
A bit smarter since they haven’t started a war for conquest while larping as a world power
do you imagine thats because of they are just simply a more moral people or because they lack the power to do otherwise
>or because they lack the power to do otherwise
that's some moronic cope
cope? not an argument, Ukraine is no position of power to invade anyone they are an american vassal
> they are an american vassal
better than russian vassal you moron
>moron
very unique anon
That's like complaining about the use of Black person or homosexual on here, please.
sure but not for long. how long and painful do you want to make the inevitable
>how long and painful do you want to make the inevitable
as long as possible so many russian pigs die
>using the term "vassal" in 2024
Spotted the zigger mentally stuck in the 13th century.
again no argument made, sad!
>le both sides
Now get some "houtis are le trad and based too"
not allowing only us and british boats to pass and letting everyone else through is pretty hilarious tho.
no not both sides i want russia to win im saying the people of Russia and Ukraine are kin
>i want russia to win
But why? Thats exactly like siding with a nignog home invader.
Becasue he himself is a nignog home invader.
>no not both sides i want russia to win im saying the people of Russia and Ukraine are kin
kys vatnik scum
seethe israelite
>Crests
Peaked
>Gloves
Off
>Eyebrow
Raised
>Great Leader
Spoken
>Bear
Awoken
>Tuvan
Shrugged
>Ass
Ass
>Missile
Ass
>Button
Observed
>Balls
Scratched
>Red line
Approached
>Things
Known
>Conclusions
Drawn
>Hedgehog
Aggravated
>Hands
Washed
>Potatoes
Peeled
>Banan
Demanded
>Cauldron
Simmering
>Prigozhin
Complicated
>Axis
Worked
>Trash heap
Climbed
>Vertical
Stengthened
>Coconuts
Corroded
>Eggs
Measured
>Mobiks
Cubed
>wieners
Disposable
>Brown line
Crossed
>Sun
Fricked
>Rooster
Pecking
>kin
Kyiv princes should have never civilized those ugro-finnic mudhut-dwelling cannibals, Jesus Christ. If only they knew...
i hate pidors so much
If you have to kill a people into submission, they are not your kin.
One is getting invaded, they deserve to defend themselves and punish the criminal.
this is true it is also not my problem. not worth even a 1% risk of ww3 over land thats probably russia's will probably have again
moronic concern troll
only morons care about muh ww3
>russia
>world war
LOOOOL
truly next level discourse by the shills this morning
moronic shill is desperate
i mean russia is destroying his favorite fake israeli market zog FOB
its going to be another painful 30's for the israelites
>fake israeli market zog FOB
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/israeli_Museum_and_Tolerance_Center
The only thing russia deserve is a nuclear holocaust
we've really gotta do something about you moderates
this vatnik sounds really frustrated and angry about the ostensible imminent russian victory
the contrarian mind is only happy when being angry and mad
>Man this system is fricked up
>You know what we need?
>A fricking empty ghost city in middle of nowhere
>that will fix our problems
The funniest part of your ghost cities is that they were meant to be used for insurance fraud, but it blew up in your faces because you burned your own money rather than someone else's.
Post Snake Island
Post 1st Guards Tank Army
Post 4th Guards Tank Division
Post 3rd Army Corps
Post Northern Front
Post Hostomel x3
Post Moskva
Post Odessa landings
Post zig zag trenches with grenade sumps and basic fortifications
Post intact ammo depots
Post PGMs
Post missiles that actually hit their targets
Post Russian soldier that hasn't had their butthole resized
Post negative HIV test
Post relatives over the age of 62
Post encrypted comms
Post unexpired rations
Post spare tires that don’t deflate
Post tourniquets with a windlass mechanism
Post optics
Post NVGs
Post an AA system that hasn't routinely gotten dunked on by drones
Post living VDV and Spetznatz with all limbs intact
Post sugar
Post bread
Post cheese
Post non defaulted currency
Post industry that can process raw goods
Post domestic semiconductor manufacturing
Post Nord Stream pipeline
Post Baltic Sea control
Post river crossings without double digit casualty rates
Post aircraft not routinely gibbed by MANPADs
Post sensor suites in a non potato resolution
Post a competent NCO corps
Post Kyiv
Post bridges and pontoons
Post control of the Black Sea
Post Russians being cool with returning to a pre-industrial agrarian economy
Post Finland and Sweden now being NATO members
Post how you feel about being dependent on North Korea and Iran because not even China wants your money more than they enjoy seeing more dead conscriptovich kino
Post how Russians feel about being viewed the world over as one tiny step better than North Korea
Post families receiving money for the death of their sons and fathers
Post literally any positive outcome Russian can expect to have even if they 'win'
Post Lyman
Post Izyum
Post Kharkiv
Post Kherson
Post commercial shipping insurance
Post Robotyne
Post Prigozhin
Post Crimean S-400 and beach defenses
Post airbases NOT on fire
Post Kilo submarine and landing vessel
Post Sevastopol drydocks
Post Avdiivka
Post IL76 with crest POW corpses
Post 20% of the Black Sea Fleet
How long until putin announces a new mobilization
Let's see if these vatniks morons are laughing by then
Technically they don't need to force conscript meat for the grinder just yet, the meat is lining up for service thanks to the amount of money they promise, more than they'd make in their entire lives normally. Marshoigian reform, essentially. The level of motivation of such troops will be questionable, especially after they see entire companies get droned or their base himars'd/glsdb'd. Hopefully, we'll see lots of mutinies since barrier troops won't be able to sodomize that amount of mobiks, logistically speaking.
Duma has started planning to restart the Soviet work troops program due to labor shortages
Aren't the migrant slaves cutting it?
Nope, some countries are banning immigration to Russia because they don’t want their people becoming mobiks
these concern trolls aren't what they used to be
I guess its nice to concentrate all /misc/ shills from both sides in one thread, but this made for some very bland reading towards the end
losing this town will result in the complete collapse of banderastan for certain this time
>loss of Avdiivka
Enjoy another pile of rubble, lol. Totally worth it bro.
Imagine defending pile of rubble for 2 years and then losing it in the end kek.
imagine having 10x the losses capturing a pile of rubble you moron
yeah but now he has more clay for native russian muslims and steppe mongoloids to resettle in
yeah but imagine losing it in the end.
Its actually 6,000,000x, get it right zigger
Literally the opposite /k/oper
You've lost 1500000+ mobiks? Woah, neat.
Post corpse piles then, zister?
>tumorweeks
You have been saying it since 2022.
Post the 6 gorrillion dead ruzzians that supposedly died in Avdeevka
there've been threads full of videos like this for the past 3-5 months
Thats from bakhmut last year
>This is a different massacre of russian soldiers, haha!
Those are ukrainian russians
Those are ukrainian POWs
Body bag deficit status?
https://x.com/OSINTua/status/1753836960714510415?s=20
OSINT is still counting your visually confirmed losses from DECEMBER.
>still counting your visually confirmed losses from DECEMBER
No wonder abacus man peaced out.
moronic pig
Why are you posting copelord? He literally always posts the opposite of truth.
Anon, Ziggers are nothing more than obedient slave cattle. No one will care if another 10,000 will perish there but it'll be celebrated by the usual suspects as a huge success/victory and anything contrary to that is nothing but /k/ope. Russian lives are worthless and the vatniks will gloat about this fact.
Yeah, you only lost about 1k vehicles, used several hundred thousand shells that you can't replenish in sufficient numbers, and lost several divisions' worth of troops just to capture a pile of rubble. Oh, and the best part? You still haven't captured it.
So did Ukraine, and for them its much harder to replace the losses
I will sceencap this and post again when avdiivka fall in two weeks.
so true, I hope by 2050 russia can liberate at the very least 50% of globohomosexual occupied territory. After that it's only gonna take them a few hundred years to take over the Europe
by the time russia is ready to take kiev there will only be 20 mobiks left to do it.
its wild how you can see down to the exact minute when the guidance and instructions from above change, and they start posting somewhere else.
Don't worry you'll get the exact same thread in a few hours again or it'll another Houthi thread instead. Choose your poison.
its 11pm for me so I get the best option (losing consciousness)
Is there a way to calculate dead russians per meter gained?
Wtw i don't hate russia, just trying to understand or visualize how they value life over there.
hopefully we get kino footage out of this
sucks to be fighting there though