>cantilever >oh jee woweee they now add some side rails from factory >brass deflector
Wow great job Aug, you've caught up to the 1990s!
Were there any other meaningful updates?
They are not the same rifle.
Picture in the OP is the M2, which is a flattop which we probably won't get in the states for a long time.
Hence the lack of deflector and hand guard on the PSA side
Does it have a CHF CL barrel?
Nope
Guns that aren't bullpups, or aren't as light, or don't have rails, or can't swap the barrel rapidly, yeah.
>yeah man it's better to have to take off a hanguard than an adjustable block that's easily accessible like 99% of firearms that have an adjustable system >yeah man it's better cause it can swap barrels instead of an upper which can have pre zeroed gear on it or other systems that also have barrel swaps >yeah man 99% of competing firearms don't have rails
You just slide it off in a couple seconds. You'd take more time removing the suppressor.
>yeah man it's better to have to do a partial disassembly after your gun starts getting dirty with a can and stops running right and need to tune gas to make up for it especially in a combat situation
I think the Aug is a fine rifle(besides it's trigger mechanism), but the way you cope cracks me the frick up.
Lighter/shorter? Sure I'll give you that. Nothing else you listed was a benefit.
>pre zeroed gear on it
The nu-AUG's rails are 3, 9 and 6 oclock. The top rail is permanent and thus you don't lose zero from replacing the handguard.
What operations are you doing that require constant, immediate gas setting changes? Reloading a mag takes more time than taking off the rails on the nu-AUG. Stop projection-coping.
>changing barrels doesn't affect poi shift >changing caliber doesn't affect poi shift >hasn't shot a rifle long enough where carbon fouling(which is even more exasperated by a can) or other dirt/sand/clay situations requiring more gas, especially when it forces you to manually cycle action >even more so for mil armory guns which are prefricked by nature
You're either a nogunz, a moron, or haven't been shooting a long time.
Like I said I like the aug even with it's issues, buddy has a a3m1 and it's decent probably snagging one myself in a year or two. But it is not a superior platform by any stretch, more of a sidegrade.
>checked >strawmanning
homie my statement was maintain zero for the upper and glass and accessories and you were the one that swapped to rail zero only which again, would still be affected by a caliber change or barrel length change.
Yes they were more reliable than the m4, no doubt about that still ran into similar issues where an adjustable gas block would have helped(same with the m4s). >don't even use suppressors
Do you know why? :^), I'll give you a hint, the aug was a shit suppressor host, which is why they moved to the adjustable gas block system in order to better support it.
You asked why you'd need to adjust gas in a setting, and I gave you real world examples of when you would.
Having a removable design to access it is a shit design, period, full stop, end of discussion. This goes for any firearm with an adjustable gas block you have to do a disassembly to access, not limited to the aug. Even DesertTechs systems are kinda crap as it's a window to adjust it vs it being easily accessible.
Shit even the chinks have been doing it since the 90s with the qbz95 or whatever the frick it's called.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Your statement was about a loss of zero in relation to removing the rails. The implication being that you were referring to LAMs. The nu-AUG doesn't have a problem with that. If you were talking about swapping caliber barrels, then any weapon will see a zero shift just from the change in muzzle velocity.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Correct, besides changing uppers that are prezeroed on ar platforms. There will always be microscopic shifts depending on receiver mating but we're talking less than a 1/4moa, I've had good luck on repeat tests for shiggles.
Sorry I should have specified, was referring to the removable barrel aspect. That's on me.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I see. Carrying a single barrel > carrying a whole upper with extra set of rail accessories, though. We can deal with the zero shift if we get good with our optics or use the new sig optic with 2 separately zeroed dots.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Depends on usecase and situation imo, reason why most sof groups use the ar platform is quick swap uppers in kit lockers for ease of swap prior to mission or role.
Civie side not so much of an application unless you have a preban lower or poor/buying a super gucci lower and just want to swap top ends. As we usually just buy extra rifles even if they fullfill the similar or slightly different role.
Aug's limited for obvious reasons so I won't hold that against it as it does have an easily swapped barrel which you'll still want to re-zero imo or at least to a 3 round spot check for a new hold at 100(or 25/28/50/52/whatever zero you normally do).
Updated trigger springs to the orange ones
Updated trigger to the arid aluminum
Getting around 5 to 4.5lbs trigger pull with zero slop accuracy is getting sub moa with my 20 inch barrel 55 grain soft point and 1 moa with 62 grain lake city no shit better than my israeli sig mcx
This is a replacement aug trigger pack that takes a cut down (shoe and stop removed) metal trigger. It lowers the pull and pre-travel. I am trying to tune out the remainder by messing with the adjustable engagement point.
No thats just this guy's forced meme. He spends all day refreshing the board to reply to any mention of the aug with "hur dur the stock cracks lol." I'd wager hes never even seen an aug and is quite possibly noguns
>possibly noguns
I'm going to wager the opposite and say he has 10 5.56 AR-15s with slight variations in optics and barrel lengths along with 8 Glocks: model 17 (gen 3-5), 19(gen 3-5), 45, and 48.
Some guy designed a really neat 3d printed trigger shoe for these that cuts pull weight in half as well as some other cool stuff. the files are free on thingiverse. The guy's name is B3ND3RZE3 I think
It is a definite improvement over the old cqc handguard. That one had a single thin lever to lock the handguard in that would snap easily. This one seems to use 2 standard qd levers
Do not buy a modern AUG unless you want a gun thats stock cracks in half under a 1000 rounds or a gun with a cast metal receiver on par with paper mâché
Do not buy a modern AUG unless you want a gun thats stock cracks in half under a 1000 rounds or a gun with a cast metal receiver on par with paper mâché
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>Barrel is still not chrome lined >didn't address cracking issue >still no skirt or other blocking mechanism for the charging handle to stop debris from bricking the gun >same charging handle that is literally the first thing everyone replaces lmao >still comes with grenade launcher gas plug instead of civilian relevant suppressor plug. >still no standard qd mount in the rear take-down pin >no trigger pack upgrade, not even the red springs
The brass deflector is nice though. I like that.
No. the FN barrels the US models have been using since late 2020 have been nitrate barrels. It would be very strange if these didn't end up shipping with those.
I was about to talk shit about 300BLK but actually I guess a bullpup's short OAL makes sense for running a can and they might be onto something with it.
I've always had a soft spot for the AUG, but at this point I fundamentally believe that Steyr deserve bankruptcy. The AUG has to be the most mismanaged rifle you can buy, those .300 barrels have existed for over half a decade and they are only now coming to the biggest AUG market; and they're only doing that because somebody tried it over here (heresy group). Exact same story with the MSAR, they weren't interested in producing AUGs in the US until somebody else did it and suddenly they're setting up a factory. That kind of complacency, only lifting a finger when you have to; just cant last in the current gun market. Its crazy to me that people constantly b***h about H&K mistreating their civilian customers when H&K guns and parts are pretty attainable for a steep price, when you've got these motherfrickers over the border who treat the civilian market with open contempt.
Steyr Arms is also 35 million € in debt
PSA is selling the package that comes with the 16 inch .300 barrel and a 20 inch .223 barrel
And the optic too
wont even give us the good 3x optic. thats the not good one dont fall for it
>cantilever
>oh jee woweee they now add some side rails from factory
>brass deflector
Wow great job Aug, you've caught up to the 1990s!
Were there any other meaningful updates?
They are not the same rifle.
Picture in the OP is the M2, which is a flattop which we probably won't get in the states for a long time.
Hence the lack of deflector and hand guard on the PSA side
Nope
>yeah man it's better to have to take off a hanguard than an adjustable block that's easily accessible like 99% of firearms that have an adjustable system
>yeah man it's better cause it can swap barrels instead of an upper which can have pre zeroed gear on it or other systems that also have barrel swaps
>yeah man 99% of competing firearms don't have rails
>yeah man it's better to have to do a partial disassembly after your gun starts getting dirty with a can and stops running right and need to tune gas to make up for it especially in a combat situation
I think the Aug is a fine rifle(besides it's trigger mechanism), but the way you cope cracks me the frick up.
Lighter/shorter? Sure I'll give you that. Nothing else you listed was a benefit.
>pre zeroed gear on it
The nu-AUG's rails are 3, 9 and 6 oclock. The top rail is permanent and thus you don't lose zero from replacing the handguard.
What operations are you doing that require constant, immediate gas setting changes? Reloading a mag takes more time than taking off the rails on the nu-AUG. Stop projection-coping.
>changing barrels doesn't affect poi shift
>changing caliber doesn't affect poi shift
>hasn't shot a rifle long enough where carbon fouling(which is even more exasperated by a can) or other dirt/sand/clay situations requiring more gas, especially when it forces you to manually cycle action
>even more so for mil armory guns which are prefricked by nature
You're either a nogunz, a moron, or haven't been shooting a long time.
Like I said I like the aug even with it's issues, buddy has a a3m1 and it's decent probably snagging one myself in a year or two. But it is not a superior platform by any stretch, more of a sidegrade.
>changing barrels doesn't affect poi shift
>changing caliber doesn't affect poi shift
Who said it doesn't? Sounds like you're strawmanning.
>mil armory guns
They don't even use suppressors. Australian AUGs were more reliable than the M4 in Afghanistan, by the way.
>checked
>strawmanning
homie my statement was maintain zero for the upper and glass and accessories and you were the one that swapped to rail zero only which again, would still be affected by a caliber change or barrel length change.
Yes they were more reliable than the m4, no doubt about that still ran into similar issues where an adjustable gas block would have helped(same with the m4s).
>don't even use suppressors
Do you know why? :^), I'll give you a hint, the aug was a shit suppressor host, which is why they moved to the adjustable gas block system in order to better support it.
You asked why you'd need to adjust gas in a setting, and I gave you real world examples of when you would.
Having a removable design to access it is a shit design, period, full stop, end of discussion. This goes for any firearm with an adjustable gas block you have to do a disassembly to access, not limited to the aug. Even DesertTechs systems are kinda crap as it's a window to adjust it vs it being easily accessible.
Shit even the chinks have been doing it since the 90s with the qbz95 or whatever the frick it's called.
Your statement was about a loss of zero in relation to removing the rails. The implication being that you were referring to LAMs. The nu-AUG doesn't have a problem with that. If you were talking about swapping caliber barrels, then any weapon will see a zero shift just from the change in muzzle velocity.
Correct, besides changing uppers that are prezeroed on ar platforms. There will always be microscopic shifts depending on receiver mating but we're talking less than a 1/4moa, I've had good luck on repeat tests for shiggles.
Sorry I should have specified, was referring to the removable barrel aspect. That's on me.
I see. Carrying a single barrel > carrying a whole upper with extra set of rail accessories, though. We can deal with the zero shift if we get good with our optics or use the new sig optic with 2 separately zeroed dots.
Depends on usecase and situation imo, reason why most sof groups use the ar platform is quick swap uppers in kit lockers for ease of swap prior to mission or role.
Civie side not so much of an application unless you have a preban lower or poor/buying a super gucci lower and just want to swap top ends. As we usually just buy extra rifles even if they fullfill the similar or slightly different role.
Aug's limited for obvious reasons so I won't hold that against it as it does have an easily swapped barrel which you'll still want to re-zero imo or at least to a 3 round spot check for a new hold at 100(or 25/28/50/52/whatever zero you normally do).
The trigger mechanism is still mediocre unless they updated it to have pins instead of sliding surfaces.
Updated trigger springs to the orange ones
Updated trigger to the arid aluminum
Getting around 5 to 4.5lbs trigger pull with zero slop accuracy is getting sub moa with my 20 inch barrel 55 grain soft point and 1 moa with 62 grain lake city no shit better than my israeli sig mcx
>no slop
Got webm of trigger pull?
Orange, who does the orange?
I got the red from Steyr.
Why doesn't anyone make a completely new AUG trigger pack with a more intelligent pin design?
This is a replacement aug trigger pack that takes a cut down (shoe and stop removed) metal trigger. It lowers the pull and pre-travel. I am trying to tune out the remainder by messing with the adjustable engagement point.
>offered in 300 Blackout.
no interest, surprised at Steyr for offering such thrash
Looks like shit.
>300blk AUG
Finally.
if they had lead off with "we finally fricking fixed the cracking stocks" I might have been interested
Do they still crack?
No thats just this guy's forced meme. He spends all day refreshing the board to reply to any mention of the aug with "hur dur the stock cracks lol." I'd wager hes never even seen an aug and is quite possibly noguns
>possibly noguns
I'm going to wager the opposite and say he has 10 5.56 AR-15s with slight variations in optics and barrel lengths along with 8 Glocks: model 17 (gen 3-5), 19(gen 3-5), 45, and 48.
>8 Glocks
BRO I can't believe Glock mags still crack? They'll never fix this; Glock a shit ololololololololololol
10 round magazine dont deserve to exist anyway.
Looks svolles tbh, the only part thats even aug about it now is the stock
Some guy designed a really neat 3d printed trigger shoe for these that cuts pull weight in half as well as some other cool stuff. the files are free on thingiverse. The guy's name is B3ND3RZE3 I think
Found it https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:6564672
The handguard looks like they chopped up one of those cheap Chinese ar15s handguards and attached it to the rifle. It looks awful
It is a definite improvement over the old cqc handguard. That one had a single thin lever to lock the handguard in that would snap easily. This one seems to use 2 standard qd levers
Do not buy a modern AUG unless you want a gun thats stock cracks in half under a 1000 rounds or a gun with a cast metal receiver on par with paper mâché
>browsing r*ddit
>new aug
>looks like the same aftermarket additions people have been using for years
That's nice, I guess.
Did they fix the mosaic stocks?
Really wish we still had the IP counter
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>tragedy of the commons
you see, our world is really a big pyramid scheme, and you're all at the bottom
I’ll leave this shithole if they implement that sitewide.
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a lot of bot posts itt
>Barrel is still not chrome lined
>didn't address cracking issue
>still no skirt or other blocking mechanism for the charging handle to stop debris from bricking the gun
>same charging handle that is literally the first thing everyone replaces lmao
>still comes with grenade launcher gas plug instead of civilian relevant suppressor plug.
>still no standard qd mount in the rear take-down pin
>no trigger pack upgrade, not even the red springs
The brass deflector is nice though. I like that.
>it will be offered in 300 Blackout.
I've grown tired of this moronridge
Did the stock get turked
is it keltec revolver obeseletE?
Should I kille myself with this???
>"""""Updated""""""
>Slapped on aftermarket parts
No. I do not like it.
> 300BLK
Yawn, wake me up when they release a 9mm conversion kit that isn't $1600
>that foregrip
Have Steyr forgotten what an AUG is supposed to look like
Does it have a CHF CL barrel?
No. the FN barrels the US models have been using since late 2020 have been nitrate barrels. It would be very strange if these didn't end up shipping with those.
I was about to talk shit about 300BLK but actually I guess a bullpup's short OAL makes sense for running a can and they might be onto something with it.
the thick front ruins the slick aesthetics of the classic.
Same with the Mini 14 300 blk. It wouldn't look bad but that fat barrel is hilarious. Which is a shame because a quiet silenced mini would be neat.
I've always had a soft spot for the AUG, but at this point I fundamentally believe that Steyr deserve bankruptcy. The AUG has to be the most mismanaged rifle you can buy, those .300 barrels have existed for over half a decade and they are only now coming to the biggest AUG market; and they're only doing that because somebody tried it over here (heresy group). Exact same story with the MSAR, they weren't interested in producing AUGs in the US until somebody else did it and suddenly they're setting up a factory. That kind of complacency, only lifting a finger when you have to; just cant last in the current gun market. Its crazy to me that people constantly b***h about H&K mistreating their civilian customers when H&K guns and parts are pretty attainable for a steep price, when you've got these motherfrickers over the border who treat the civilian market with open contempt.
>Updated AUG just dropped.
>It looks just like the last one.
Consume product and get excited for next product.
I heard from Brass Facts that Hop hates the AUG. This is weird because Hop said he doesn't care about triggers at all.
Doesn't fit enough night vision stuff on it to be tacticool.
Garand Thumb did it just fine.
>mounts the best egro LAM
>used a fricking switch
lmao trash
You're such a moron. He used a LAM that keeps out of the way of the charging handle. Then he used a pressure pad for activation.
that is lazy they stole the aftermarket parts without updating internals. and charging same price lmao
>remove hand guard to adjust gas
lol no
It took the guy 5 seconds to get it off in the TFB video. What kind of operations are you doing that require constant gas setting changes?
Tuning it when I put a can on/off, what the frick else would you get 300 BO for?
Disassembly to change a simple setting is peak moronic. Might as well get a VHS-k2
You just slide it off in a couple seconds. You'd take more time removing the suppressor.
and this sounds fun to you? when there's guns that don't require doing all this?
Guns that aren't bullpups, or aren't as light, or don't have rails, or can't swap the barrel rapidly, yeah.
When will Steyr learn?
Their handguns suck too
So what's the verdict on the Heresy conversion kits? I have an A3M1, and Brownells is running a sale on the 300blk conversion barrel at the moment.