Post your unpopular opinions and argue with eachother because you're all homosexuals.
>Quality night vision is a waste of money
Unless you are an avid night hunter, explore the woods at night constantly or you genuinely expect a raid on your house. Other than that you'd be better off spending $1000 - $2000 on some cheap NV shit to scratch the itch and save your money.
>Open carry sucks
Not that hot of a take but open carry in public is stupid as frick unless you're at some protest/ event that directly correlates with your rights and other 2A stuff, you're hunting of course or you're wondering in the woods. "Wah wah wah it's my right!" "Use em or lose em cuck!" "You're part of the problem!" I don't give a frick what yall do but I don't show the whole table my hand at poker and I don't need to scare away le bad guys with my ebin gun, it's for SELF-defense not flaunting.
>Min-maxing everything
I fricking hate you homosexuals trying to min-max literally anything possible. Like replacing parts unnecessarily, your BCG in an AR (or similr rifle) lasts like what 40k-50k rounds before it should be retired? Why the frick are you guys replacing the shit after 10k and 15k? "No ones doing that moron" yes they fricking are, I've seen it more than I thought I would especially the past few years. The fuddlore shit is getting out of control "don't cowboy the revolver it's bad for it!", "Don't SLAM the slide without a magazine inserted it's bad for it!" and everyones favorite "Don't single load the gun it messes up the extractor!" Like shut the frick up, please shut the frick up. The wear those things do to the gun are minimal and yes they accumulate over time and do cause more damage than if you didnt do it but at the point it actually matter your fricking gun has so much use it's deserving of being retired. Replacement parts for most damaged items are cheap anyways.
>inb4 nice blogpost homosexual
Frick all of you.
nice blog post homosexual.
here's mine:
every caliber already exists, your slobbering hypebeasts nonsense is just something from 50 years ago rebranded.
Is this true or do you (and I, to the degree that I agree with you) just lack imagination?
Examples of hypothetical cartridges whose existence is I think justified:
>5.56 Knox with 120+gr expanding subs. Think 8.6 blackout maker rex subs, but skinnier. 100rd quad stack mag. Ultra quiet suppressed cause small bore and low energy.
>5.56 FABRL hybrid case with heavy VLDs
>Some dedicated SBR cartridge for excellent efficiency from short barrels, but also with m855 or better external ballistics. ~7mm, but super long, fine, and lightweight bullet going 3k+ fps. Bam no more 300 BLK vs 5.56 arguments and no more barrel length conundrum and compromise. You can eat your cake and have it too.
>~1.75” action length intermediate cartridge for mp7-style assault rifles.
Mostly I think it’s new enabling tech that gives the above (IMO) any merit. I think I just wanna VLD-ify and hybrid case everything.
>5.56 Knox with 120+gr expanding subs. Think 8.6 blackout maker rex subs, but skinnier. 100rd quad stack mag. Ultra quiet suppressed cause small bore and low energy.
Not him, but genuine question: what would the point of such a round be? Would it offer anything that an an existing round doesn't? As I understand it 8.6 is already super quiet, and when those things expand, goddamn they're like broadheads
A smaller bore and smaller powder charge would always be quieter with an equivalent size suppressor.
You can fit many times more of these broadheads into a magazine that will still prob be lighter than an 8.6 mag. I’m talking 100rd quad stack about the same footprint as a PMAG
Also, 8.6 is still designed with supersonic performance as a consideration - it is 2 cartridges at once - and so it has more case capacity than is needed for subs. A straight wall .224 has just what it needs and nothing more. Tiny case head, super high capacity, small and light gun, and controllable full auto for when the Hughes amendment is repealed kek. Low energy, but distributed in a superior way in the target that punches well above its weight.
Also, I think it’s really cool.
>Also, I think it’s really cool
Frick. Picrel forreal this time
>8.6 is
a renamed cartridge that already existed.
my point exactly. something that already existed gets renamed, a shill campaign and suddenly it's the super amazing with nothing even close to like it!
Nta but I think I know where he's coming from. I'm fricking tired of all these fricking dumbass and expensive fricking gimmick calibers and everyone losing their mind over it like some homosexual company reinvented the entire cartridge. Shit like that 8.5 blackout, I get it I get the application and I get the pros and cons and I understand but who the frick really cares? I dont fricking care about .224 valkrie or .30 super carry or this and that fricking caliber that's just a tweak of another caliber. It's fricking tiresome.
I get that too. Virtually every new cartridge that gets introduced is either a duplicate of something that came before, or offers nothing new/is a money grab.. But could it be the case that genuinely new and useful cartridge are out there, waiting to be discovered, and all these companies are just blundering?
Could be, if someone told me .233/5.56 is the peak of ballistic weapons I'd laugh in their face. We're pretty close to finding the "perfect" line up of cartridges for just about every realistic application but we're definitely not there yet.
Here’s the thing: ballistic coefficient literally doesn’t matter for subsonic rounds. Another anon ran the data and 8.6 blackout drops at about the same rate as .45-70 subs
I know. But it does matter for penetration. And my main point is that if it’s skinnier with a similar wounding effect (broadhead-tier expansion), the cartridge is, smaller, lighter, and lighter recoiling, and the mags can hold way more, esp if quad stacked - something that can’t really be done with a case head as wide as 8.6 blackout’s
I’m just obsessed with quad stack and really like the idea of a minmaxed short range subsonic rifle/cartridge, limited only by trajectory, not effectiveness.
You mean sectional density, not BC.
I thought it was both SD and form factor. Aka BC.
Not every gun has to be a AR
It's okay to own a gun because you think it's cool
This is a hotter take than some may think. You'll get lynched for trying to have fun around here.
>want to buy a rifle
>Amorons
>jUsT bUy A aR15 iT dOeS tHe sAme BuT cHeAPeR
>you don't buy a $2000+ illuminati death squad issue AR
>Amorons
>lOL yOuR gOiNg tO dIE iN SHTF
The AR15 and it's consequences have been a disaster for the gun community.
You talk like a gay and your shit's all moronic
>t.Amoron
Are these ARgays in the thread with us now?
/k/ope. A complete BCM is right around 1200 and sometimes even less. A BCM upper + Aero lower gets you a decent rifle for less than a grand
The problems with extreme poorgay shit are that they cut corners in order to make it to that price bracket. Save your money for another month or two to get something decent instead of something that just mostly works
>BCM
>don't shoot more than 15 rounds a minute
>good
LAMO
Yeah, this. I felt funny thinking of how much I want a certain gun but then thinking “oh no it’s pistol caliber, it’s obsolete, 300 blackout it better, etc etc). Whatever. Guns are toys.
If your gun has a purpose then it's a tool but if it doesn't have a purpose then it's a toy. They're big boy toys but still a toy and toys are for fun. So if you buy a gun as a toy then by all means have fricking fun with it.
This is limited to hunters and those who carry a gun for work, and maybe those who carry daily (in bad neighborhoods).
Problem is people conflate a gun as being the physical manifestation of a thought experiment (fighting rifle, scout rifle, truck gun, etc) with being some need that they are fulfilling.. Like when tf are you gonna ever be in a gunfight that warrants the absolute cutting edge of firearms tech. In this case, it is a toy albeit the result of autistic calculation, but a toy nonetheless (my guns are of this variety). It’s the pretending that it’s something else that is cringe.
I understand 100 motherfricking percent but I'm on the fence about "purpose" guns. On one hand it's homosexual shit, what situation are you going to be in where you are going to find use out of a $3000 riced out AR with all these gadgets on it over a standard M4 style AR? You're not a fricking mercenary in a hot zone bud, you may LARP like one but you're not. On the other hand, it's just cool. Having a fighting rifle that has every little autistic thing you want because you have this autistic train of thought that you actually need all the shit and once it's done you just take price in it. It's more of a fulfilling thing to these people than something built for a genuine/ realistic scenario which I say frick it have fun.
>pistol caliber
>obsolete
moronic?
If you could read more than 2 words without your brain giving up, you’d see that I specifically said pistol caliber NON-PISTOLS. I.e., pistol calibers belong in pistols, never in long guns. There will always, 100% of the time, be much better chambering solutions for long guns.
The only time a case can be made for such a gun is if it’s a short SMG, and even then, rifle action length spitzer thumpers like 300 blackout are better in every metric.
The mentality of every gun has to be an AR led to PSA becoming immensely wealthy, and now they are venturing into obscure places with their guns, somehow it has come full circle and I'm all here for it. https://palmettostatearmory.com/shotshow2024
i wants a PS90 so bad bros. I want to larp as an SG member. I don't give a frick about anything else.
>inb4 nice blogpost homosexual
That was a fricking blogpost holy shit, ever considered getting some friends to talk to instead?
Stick and stones may break my bones but buzzwords used every thread only annoy me.
Now you know what it's like when you talk
>No u
No u
>no u
I'm the first anon
, this is not me
. He's just pointing out the obvious here. I can't believe /k/ still doesn't have poster ID, this place is a mess
NTA but friends are vastly overrated.
Not only is the ATF not out of line with the brace ban, but everyone should have seen it coming. You can only play “I’m not touching you” for so long before you get smacked.
Not that I agree with the ATF mind you.
People are dumb as shit too with the comparisons. Like the Mini-14 vs AR-15 line.
>Oh well this is banned and scary but we can have THIS that's the same thing!? Isn't that wacky guys!?
That doesn't make these driveling gun sissies think "Oh wow, that is a good point we should keep the thing we don't like!" It makes them think that Mini-14s should be fricking banned too. Shit happened with the braces already and it happened with the FRT shit. Now they're calling for light triggers to be restricted because "it increases firepower" and other stupid shit because people put too much faith in anti-gunners having functioning brains.
I always think it's funny that every time there's a big gun ban, the 10/22 and the Mini-14 are always exempt
They have functioning brains. Many just have such a vastly different set of values and ethics from you so there's few common ground. Hence all the talk of balkanization over the last years.
Everyone feels it in their guts and sees it in their proximity: the status quo leads downwards and things have to change. The hegemony of thought breaks further apart.
If you can't see logic through emotion you are not intelligent. If you can't see emotion through logic then you are not compassionate.
I don't think it has anything to do with logic. They simply don't want guns in their surroundings while we do. Just a matter of preference and/or principles
Then they may go where there's no guns and leave us in peace but instead they demand everyone give up theirs. Frick that and frick them.
>people put too much faith in anti-gunners having functioning brains
No, they put too much faith into the antigunner's willingness to compromise. They think that a middle ground can be reached. They don't understand that the antis are playing an incrementalist game and have absolutely no intention of stopping until all guns are flat-out illegal, period. You only have to look at the other white countries to see.
Very based, it’s the NFA that’s the issue. All this shit about
>the ATF doesn’t have the authority to make laws!!!
is moronic when the NFA has the authority of congress.
I’m not sure if this is a similar or opposite point, but I hate the
>it’s a “modern sporting rifle” not an assault rifle!
crap.
What guns were used for in 1776-1783 could be classified as assaults. Therefore a weapon that’s designed to be used to assault people should be protected under the 2nd amendment for that very reason.
Now for a very boomer opinion. I think all striker fired guns should have manual safeties. If you don’t want a manual safety, get a DA.
> it’s a “modern sporting rifle” not an assault rifle
This pisses me off too. We give ground to the left and shy away from words. They win. Like yeah technically they aren’t assault rifles, but “modern sporting rifle” is contrived to be as non-threatening sounding as possible, not a coincidence. It’s like groveling and pivoting to self-defense when accused of an ism or phobia
> Now for a very boomer opinion. I think all striker fired guns should have manual safeties. If you don’t want a manual safety, get a DA.
But why? If the gun physically can not fire without the trigger being depressed, then all that is needed is the trigger dingus to keep it from ever being pulles unless a rotational force is applied first to disengage the dingus (a force that dropping the gun can’t apply). Striker fired guns are perfectly safe (p320 doesn’t count, doesn’t have the dingus). Net result is a passive safety and the time-consuming step of taking the safety off is omitted entirely
>the gun physically can not fire without the trigger being depressed
That’s basically true for true single actions as well. Sure they’re generally not drop safe, but that’s far from the only reason SA have safeties.
The shorter, and more important point, is that training to disengage a safety is almost trivial. You don’t even need live fire you can practice it dry.
The point is that thinking you’ll be 100% safe, 100% of the time while holstering/reholstering is absurd. I’d greatly prefer to have a manual safety and an additional point of failure before potentially shooting myself in the leg.
If you are buying a HD gun for grandma who will never practice. Then get a DA. Normies have been using them forever just fine.
The really short version is that if you train with a gun with a manual safety, you won’t forget to disengage the safety anymore than you’ll forget to pull the trigger. It’s basically a free layer of additional safety if you shoot guns with any regularity.
>Post your unpopular opinions
Everyone who posts on /k/ is the exact kind of person who should be permanently barred from firearm ownership
I think everyone with a brain agrees with this one. So let's say about 1/4 of this board and that's being generous.
Every one of these is correct.
How about these?
The war in Ukraine has been a catastrophe for Russia.
Russia can hold on to the territory they've gained if they can outlast Western support to Ukraine.
The United States is the world's foremost military power, and exceeds all other countries in every field by a large margin.
The United States has difficulty nation-building, is capricious and unreliable with foreign policy, and struggles to completely defeat insurgents with military force.
China is a corrupt shithole with a potemkin military, with delusions of grandeur and no real allies.
China could sink a U.S. carrier strike group and destroy U.S. bases near their homeland with missile spam.
All of the above statements are objectively true, yet almost everyone on this board and in the world has to pick one side for some reason.
> China could sink a U.S. carrier strike group
They could sink A CBG. You’re not wrong.
But when the other three come by to commit anal jihad, China is fricked. Assuming that they make it that long without getting got by USN submarines.
You're right, I do think attacking the US is a terrible idea. The most (only) realistic path I can see for China to take taiwan is to attack it directly and hope the US doesn't intervene. Which is quite possible if Trump is president since he's said outright he would let them have it.
Sinking an American ship, on the other hand, is probably the only 100% reliable way to get the U.S. into the war. It'd be suicide by cop on a national level.
>which is quite possible if Trump is president since he's said outright he would let them have it.
no fricking way, prove it, give me video confirmation of him saying it. There's no way he'd let fricking China have Taiwan.
> Which is quite possible if Trump is president since he's said outright he would let them have it.
I call BS, being against China was a huge part of his platform. I don't even know how people say he's in cahoots with the Russians given that Ukrainian aid started under his administration, the worst he did was threaten to curtail it if Zelensky didn't give him info on Biden's doings. Neither of which actually happened, so he was probably bluffing. Saying he'd willingly aid the CCP seems like something greatly out of line with his policies.
I agree with these, people don't want to admit that the US is the best because honestly we have some of the most homosexual loving and backwards thinking drones in the government and all over the military. But the US is the #1 military power in the world, period. China can spam shit and get some stuff taken out but if they don't chimp-out and start launching nukes (very likely scenario) they would be absolutely fricked if they started war with the US.
Even if they do ape out and start slinging nukes, they’ll just get nuked back but much worse.
>the US has difficulty nation building
BULLFRICKINGSHIT. The US is a utter MASTER at nation building.
>reeeeeee
Take a look at Western Europe, Japan, and South Korea, they're all prosperous and functional countries. The reason is because the US utterly purged the hostile order and broke the will of the population.
>China could sink a U.S. carrier strike group and destroy U.S. bases near their homeland with missile spam.
with their water filled display missiles?
.32 does 9mm's job better than it.
To explain myself, let's break everything into the same measurement systems.
Now, the 9mm vs .45 debate is old. Bigger bullet or more bullet? But let's see how much bullet we're actually talking about. 9mm is .35 caliber. Calibers are smaller than millimeters and it doesn't cleanly translate, but for similar reference a .45 is about 11.43mm. So, the debate here is an argument over about 2 millimeters.
We've established that 9mm is .35 caliber. So compare .35 to .32, and we see that it's not too much of a downgrade. And yet, with that small downsize, you should be able to hold more bullets, which is 9mm's niche. If we decide to use a .30 caliber/7.62mm bullet instead, we can fit even more into a similarly-sized magazine for not much of a size tradeoff. Keep in mind that with .30 caliber, we're basically only going down by a single millimeter, which is less substantial than the difference between 9mm and .45, and yet allows us more bullets. It's also a more convenient size for smaller, more concealable handguns, which is .32's current lot in life.
And no, this actually wasn't supposed to be about .30 Super Carry, honestly I think even existing .32 and .30 caliber cartridges would be more suitable for high-capacity handguns, such as .32 ACP or 7.62 Tok. I could even see (if I strain my eyes) a comically small Deagle chambered in .32 Long
Hit and a miss. There's no smaller round more capable than 9mm and that's hugely because 9mm has been eyed for a long time and it's been developed to a point where it is the BEST self defense round in terms of effectiveness and size. It's perfect, it's just the perfect pistol caliber, we found it.
.32 has a higher one-shot incapacitation rate than both 9mm and .45 do. Part of that might be due to the engagement distance .32 is often used at (the approximate length of a poker table), but I'd say that's not too bad. Especially considering that some people may genuinely find themselves at such a distance in a self-defense shooting.
Keep in mind that I'm not too biased since I own all 3 calibers I'm talking about. At least, I don't think I'm too biased. I like the small, light nature of the .32, and I like the big .45, but I can't really say I particularly like 9mm based on it's own merits as a cartridge, only because it's common and relatively cheap. I guess that's all you really need in the end since pistols just poke holes in things, but I can't help but think we haven't quite min-maxed this yet.
Also I really want the moronic .32 Long mini-Deagle I thought up. Maybe make it hotter and call it .32 Magnum or something to catch the attention of brain-addled boomers that think .32 means you're throwing pebbles at someone.
>32 has a higher one-shot incapacitation rate than both 9mm and .45 do.
Alright let me just throw this out there... do you not think that this is because of 9mm and .45ACP being extremely more popular than .32ACP? That being said, I think .32ACP being kind of a niche caliber nowadays that most who decide on it genuinely did their research, understand the caliber and made a conscious decision to choose it over say 9mm. Whoever has that .32 knows what the frick they're doing and that being said they know wheee to shoot someone with it if need be. My point is, people who use more "niche" calibers tend to be knowledgable and people who use popular calibers range from knowledgable to absolutely moronic, which I think we can both agree a majority of people are fricking stupid.
>I think we can both agree a majority of people are fricking stupid.
You're right, I forgot about this. I was figuring that shot placement might be easier for the average idiot with a smaller, lighter bullet, but it's just as likely they'll not even try and complain that they didn't incapacitate him. I guess if anything, the common man needs a larger bullet to increase the chances he hits a vital.
Life is pain man. I just want a double-stack .32 pistol
People already do this and it is called the 5.7mm. Also hollow points stop working at .32.
.32 is severely underrated and the recoil much more manageable than .380 in compact pistols and I want to see more companies besides KelTec start making firearms chambered in it, but it is in no way a replacement for 9mm firearms
.32ACP is God's caliber.
>that 1903
I don't know if I love it or hate it. I feel like it'd look better with a nice dark grip panel though. Gold and dark stained wood looks so good together. What is that finish? Gold cerakote?
Gold cerakote with gator-themed wood grips and a gatorskin holster
Bought it at Gator's Guns, but that was a coincidence
Dogshit opinions
Haha that's fricking awesome man, you know what I like it now. It's some kind of special.
That handgun FRICKS.
The gun looks like it was dipped in mustard.
apparently unpopular opinion, using the enter key should be a thing, and pressing the enter key twice is better for legibility and separating paragraphs
>inb4 reddit spacing
that hasn't really been a thing since reddit made a new text editor years ago
these ones are based
Not bad mouthing .32, there are some very sexy guns on .32ACP. It's a classic cartridge for sure. I'm just saying 9mm is more capable for a wider variety of things, as one anon said .32ACP doesnt have the power to have hollowpoints expand to their full potential. I really do need a 1903, I missed a NICE example for $400 a few years back and hate myself for not buying it. Also missed a Browning/ FN Model 1910 that was German issued for $500 a fee months ago. They're not rare and that's actually not a great price but still, I fricking wanted it.
its suspicious you know so much about that website anon. perhaps you should go back?
7.62 tokarev is bottlenecked cartridgeand actually has almost same base and rim diameter as 9x19.
In fact these two cartridges are effectively cousins, both being descended from 7.65 Borchardt.
Ukraine is fighting a proxy war for the US and anyone who thinks we care about them is a moron. We are giving aid to Ukraine so they keep sending their population to their death while also making Russia send their population to their death. Once this shits over either with a Ukraine "victory" or a Russian "victory" it will be a win for the US because those poor Russian bastards are getting fricking hammered which is we want to happen. The US is giving this much support to a little shit country we didnt care about 15 years ago but now they're suckling our teat just to survive and we will try to get everything from them. Money comes and goes but those dead russians mean something.
> t. moronic boomer tier facebook maga vatBlack person echo
None of these opinions are unpopular
Wait till nighttime, you'll see how many homosexuals jump in to call me a moron.
Bitching about the p320 for the umpteenth time and screeching about siggers being everywhere when you're the first person in the thread to mention it is peak delusion and fuddery. Everybody has a right to shit on the P320 just don't make it a personality trait.
UH OH BROS HE MADE IT HIS WHOLE PERSONALITY VERY SAD...
Ken
>.357
FRICK .357 fudds. Yeah it's a fine round, a lot of the guns in it are cool, big revolvers are cool. What's not cool is
>recommending a .357 as a carry gun
>recommending a .357 as a next purchase for someone who doesn't even own a handgun yet
>recommending a .357 as a "bear gun" or for any outdoor use
>recommending a .357 when someone specifically asked for something else i.e. semi-auto, .38 special, something cheap
>shitting on .38 special
>shitting on 9mm
>shitting on semi-auto handguns
The round is cool. Lever guns are cool. Big revolvers are cool. Just accept that you like them for the cool factor and move on, stop trying to pretend like it's anything else.
Oh and inb4 some revolver gay comes screeching about
>bear gun
Prepare to have your mind blown. I give you the Glock 20.
Initially released in 1991, it features a 15 round magazine (about 3 revolver cylinders' worth), is chambered in 10mm (a caliber with slightly more muzzle energy than .357), and has a trigger pull of 4.5 lbs (about half the double action trigger pull of a .357 revolver). It costs $500-600 new (about half the cost of a .357 revolver), and weighs 30 oz (about 3/4 the weight of a .357 revolver). Like all semi-auto handguns made in the last 70 years, when properly maintained it is perfectly reliable, and (unlike revolvers) it is unfailingly preferred by police, SWAT, and militaries around the world.
If you're worried about trusting your life to a gun, you should trust your life to the gun that has more stopping power, is easier to shoot accurately, and gives you more opportunities to get rounds on target. The supposed superior reliability of revolvers is overblown, and only exists as an ex-post-facto justification for revolvergays to feel like they're getting literally ANY benefits by choosing a revolver over a semi-auto. The reality is there are absolutely no benefits, which is why American boomers and the only people in the world that still choose to arm themselves with revolvers.
I'm not a fan of western-style iron sights. Not necessarily weapons related, but I think we should replace some jail.prison sentences with disfigurement and dismemberment. Catch someone stealing? First offense, pull out some teeth. Second, maybe a few fingers or all their teeth. Third, a whole arm. Serious crimes should be punished with getting your legs cut off.
Agreed, thank you.
You should not need to pick between a shitty thread and a garbage thread.
>10mm (a caliber with slightly more muzzle energy than .357)
ghey
>recommending a snub nose hammerless .357/.38 as a first gun for first time gun owners
Jesus frick this advice. It’s literally the worse gun for a first time shooter. They’ll shoot it twice, hate the recoil, and shove it in a drawer for years
>buh muh never jam and pull dah trigger and it shoots
Modern guns with half decent ammo don’t jam. Bad form and loose grip causes jams. A compact .380/9mm handgun is a way better starting gun.
>jam. Bad form and loose grip causes jams
Which is always going to be an issue with new shooters
New shooters are bad at shooting no matter what they’re sold. But if they don’t enjoy practicing because recoil, noise, and hand fatigue is so bad, then they’ll never get better. But with a light caliber comfortable handgun they’re way more likely to fire more rounds and get better. At least enough to shoot straight and not limp wrist.
>limp wristing
I’m pretty sure this is a meme. When my uncle bought my mom an LC9 when they were new, she never limp wristed it and she couldn’t even rack the slide.
Although granted new shooters will suck at first with whatever you give them.
It's not a meme. I've seen my mom jam my G17 that way
Idk why but I can't understand how some people can jam a Glock on a stationary range. I get it if you're a cop who's suddenly has to have a .5 second draw or he's dead but if my grandma damn near in her 70's can shoot a rental Glock 19 without it jamming those people either have real bad hands or they suck ass.
Some people just don't know what they're doing, and don't know what to expect when they pull the trigger. I had literally never seen anyone induce a malfunction by limp-wristing a gun before she did, so I didn't do a good enough job emphasizing the importance of a firm hold.
It's a potential issue with any recoil operated gun, including shotguns.
>Quality night vision is a waste of money
Everything /k/ related is a waste of money.
The right uses the gun issue to trick dummies into voting republican.
The left uses the gun issue to trick dummies into voting democrat.
Libertarians would use the gun issue but they don't exist.
The Zoroastrian’s use the gun issue to protect their esoteric knowledge and the vault of Persian pussy
Yeah
>buying complete lowers to hoard instead of buying twice as many stripped lowers
Yeah
>liberal gun owners
Yeah.
But I’ll still vote for them, because better someone who says they’re progun than someone who says they’re anti-gun
>i prefer someone who will lie to me rather than someone who will tell the truth I don't like.
Are you actually saying democrats tell the truth? Have you seen the recent Hunter Biden hearings? They can't let the truth out for even something a simple as that clusterfrick. Both parties are dogshit but you are a fricking moron.
Both of these are true
Ukrainian moral will collapse when Trump wins.
>your BCG in an AR (or similr rifle) lasts like what 40k-50k rounds before it should be retired
MAYBE a KAC bolt, but a standard mil spec one is unlikely to get anywhere close to that number before lugs shear off or it breaks at the cam pin.
Cheap shit that uses the wrong alloy is unlikely to make it to 10k
I don’t care about the Ukraine war or the Israel war. Too many homosexual shills. Not enough people post guns.
>so you’d rather have daily 45 vs 9mm threads?
YES
most people don't carry their piece as much as they should and would be better served with a smaller gun they actually bring with them.
red dots on carry guns are a meme but also you'd be better off with an lcp with a red dot than a full size handgun without.
flashlights on guns are even more of a meme than red dots. what are you as a civilian doing pointing a gun at something too dark to see?
I think home defense, more so long guns, are an exception to the flashlight meme. If you hear what sounds like a door kicked in or window breaking you can point a gun and flashlight at things.
>inb4 you’ll get charged with assault!
Reasonable person and all that shit. If a reasonable person would believe a home invasion is taking place, you’re allowed to grab a weapon. Just don’t blast the first humanoid you see and use your normal lights when you can.
until it turns out that the sound was your son coming home from college early, or your friend you lent a spare key to for emergencies, or your cat breaking a vase. maybe you shouldn't have pointed a gun at any of them.
It's one of the reasons I have the other unpopular opinion handguns make better HD guns because it frees up a hand to hold a flashlight/ frick with lightswitches/ even just open doors or manipulate objects. the loss in accuracy and terminal performance really doesn't matter that much in HD situations either
I’ll take that over the alternative of seeing a dark silhouette I can’t identify and the light switch is on the other side of the room.
>it turns out that the sound was your son coming home from college early, or your friend you lent a spare key to for emergencies, or your cat breaking a vase
None of which are going to get you prosecuted into the poor house for brandishing a gun at them in public, the litigious israelite who's crouched in the dark by your passenger door because he dropped his keys will go get the CCTV footage and impoverish you. The reason home defense is an exception is that you're not rolling around in public with your HD rifle.
That makes sense.. rifles are overkill for HD. Shit, Ive seen some HD rigs with MAGNIFIERS on them, lmao.
>It's one of the reasons I have the other unpopular opinion handguns make better HD guns
I have the most unpopular opinion here, bullpups make the best HD guns. You can hold them on target with one hand almost indefinitely and you still have a rifle.
I have no experience, and previously had no interest, with bullpups; but now I’m intrigued
Night vision is a waste of money because we're on the cusp of a boom in digital NV. Once it takes off you're just going to have the best VHS player while everyone else is laughing with their DVD players.
Unpopular opinion: these threads are full of popular opinions looking for validation
you're both part of the problem
The G3 and all of its derivatives, including the MP5, fricking SUCK, and the HK slap is fun the first two times and fricking annoying every time after that. Reloading a G3 is fricking terrible.
>>Open carry sucks
Counterpoint: OC-ing a classy gun with wood grips in a leather holster looks fricking cool
All of your arguments are valid though
AK mud tests are biased bullshit and 9 times out of 10 the whole video is a paid advertisement for somebody's AR brand
an unpopular opinion thread on PrepHole is just a 'normal PrepHole opinion' thread
f16 looks goofy and the raptor is the sexiest fighter jet
.380 is the worst caliber ever invented
It has the ammo capacity of a 9mm but the stopping power of a .32, and it should be the other way around. They should have made it longer instead of wider.
I agree with all of these. Though, quality NVG may be a total waste of money, if you make a lot of money, like 6 figures it is really cool. Better than spending money on Starbucks or 30 different guns you'll never ever use, it's a great conversation piece for visitors, but most importantly of all it subdues my paranoia. I really feel like the king of the night.
I disagree. .380 is the second worst caliber. 7.62x54 rimmed takes one. Look, I love the Mosin in Red Orchestra 2 much as the next guy and the gun is very cool, but the cartridge is a real piece of shit. It's too heavy for how poorly it performs as a full power rifle round, and I still don't get why to this day they use the exact same cartridge in the Russian Military. Corruption? I'm not in favor of adapting a new meme cartridge every 10 years, but this round is ancient. If everyone just used 9mm, 5.56 and 7.62x51 for most firearms we'd all be fine.
It’s because the 7.62x54 is a necked down smokeless cartridge based off an older black powder one and the rimmed case was considered acceptable at the time
>.380 bad
>7.62x54R bad
You're wrong on both counts.
>.380
Is a FANTASTIC pocket carry round, and 9x19 is grossly overpowered for pocket guns, and self defense loads are flashy and slappy in sub-compact pistols.
>7.62x54R
Can be loaded PISSING hot while retaining a short action, and the rim is fantastic for belt fed machine guns.
Stoner DI is just a turbo autistic Long Stroke Piston.
No it is fricking not but this is still funny because I get what you mean
>piston connected to the bolt carrier
Checkmate.
Unpopular takes:
An AR is not the supreme perfect home defense gun.
An AR is not a good first rifle for a brand new shooter.
Most hunters, especially East of the Mississippi, never take shots on game beyond 100yd - and within that range, literally every caliber with more ass than .22lr/.22 magnum is perfectly fine with prudent shot placement.
That said, 350 Legend might be the perfect Eastern US medium-large game cartridge.
A snubnose .38 revolver is perfectly adequate for everyday carry, and generally more comfortable to carry than most other options.
A red dot on an EDC handgun is a great idea.
More revolvers - specifically snubnoses - should have red dots.
Anything you can do with a 12 gauge can also be done equally well with a 20 gauge, and the 20 gauge is a lighter package, which matters for hunting.
If you carry a handgun every day, you should take that gun to the range at least once per month, to rest is to rust.
Popular takes:
30 Super Carry is fricking gay.
AR's are fantastic& highly adaptable rifles.
Ammo prices are too goddamn high.
Suppressors are safety equipment and it's a motherfricking crime that you need to ask the government to own one.
Being able to buy picrel for $100 was the golden age
Frick I remember being in highschool back when I was a little shithead and just watched Demolition Ranch and Hickok45 all day. He did his video on the mosin nagant and talked about how fricking cheap it was and I wanted one so bad, especially an M44. A couple months after I turned 18 I bought my 91/30 for $170 OTD along with a box of Tula from a pawn shop. I had only ever shot a .22lr SAA before and this rifle kicked the shit out of me when I shot it for the first time. I havent shot it in years and I don't want to, I just want it to stay how it is and appreciate it when I take it out every year to give it a good cleaning and a new coat of oil.
Love that. I think cheap Mosins baptized an entite generation of gun enthusiasts who would've otherwise been too broke to get anything ither than a shitty .22lr.
When I was 13 I discovered guntube and /k/ at the same time, and it coincided with the height of Mosins being cheap. I saved up $200 in lawn mowing money and begged my dad to buy me a Mosin with it; $100 for the rifle, and $100 for spam can ammo. 1928 Tula ex dragoon, came with a bayonet and two ammo pouches. Fricking love this rifle, I've put probably 2,000 rounds through it, and ever since I bought it I've autistically cleaned the absolute frick out of the bore after ever range trip. I still use it as my deer rifle, and it performs great, however as it approaches 100yr old I think I'm going to retire it from deer duty in favor of my AR.
One day my grandkids will be killing deer with this thing
>Anything you can do with a 12 gauge can also be done equally well with a 20 gauge, and the 20 gauge is a lighter package, which matters for hunting.
It is a narrower shot column, though
>It is a narrower shot column, though
It's literally a skill issue; shoot more
>Anything you can do with a 12 gauge can also be done equally well with a 20 gauge
Depends how good of a shot you are. If you’re an average shitter like me and my friends, you’ll do way worse with a 20 gauge than a 12. Try it with skeet, if your score doesn’t go down with 20, congrats you’re a pretty good shot.
There's certainly a skill gap, but with enough practice 20g can absolutely keep pace with 12g. Again for me it's the lighter weight gun that really matters
Guns related:
Pistol caliber non-pistols are a cope for not being able to own short, suppressed SMGs, and as such, are gay.
Hybrid case and quad stack is the future
5.56 can be improved upon
Bullpups are moronic and ugly
Guns are toys. Contradicts by first point, sorta, but whatever.
Broadly weapons related:
MAD is not Nash equilibrium unless the guy that presses the launch button and the committee that decides to send nukes are all guaranteed to die.. Nukes will eventually fly
>Pistol caliber non-pistols are a cope for not being able to own short, suppressed SMGs, and as such, are gay
It is a cope, but most of us are too poor to buy SMG's under the currents gun control regime, so frick off
>Hybrid case and quad stack is the future
>5.56 can be improved upon
I'm listening
>Bullpups are moronic and ugly
Obviously. Adoption by both the French and the Chinese is a clear sign of how moronic a thing is
>Guns are toys
They can be pretty useful for certain things, even in covillian life, but yeah mostly
>Nukes will eventually fly
You can walk a tight rope for 20 minutes, but you can't reasonably be expected to do so for 200 years. Obviously it's going to happen. The question of MAD is very complex though and depends on dozens of factors, especially who the tow sodes of the conflict are& what their respective capabilities are
> It is a cope, but most of us are too poor to buy SMG's under the currents gun control regime, so frick off
I’m not flexing on the poors. I am mad that the Hughes amendment exists, and that we have adapted to it and accepted it in the form of 16” semi-auto 9mm guns.
>I’m not flexing on the poors. I am mad that the Hughes amendment exists, and that we have adapted to it and accepted it in the form of 16” semi-auto 9mm guns
I share your anger. That said, idk man, i enjoy plugging bottles& steel with a PCC for shits'n'gigs. I think hot loaded 9mm out of a carbine is great for white tail, coyotes, and hogs within 100yd but a lot of the nonhunter gays and braindead fudds on this board will reeeeee about that
Banning Russian ammunition imports is pointless virtue signalling and only succeeds in hurting American consumers.
Shout it from the mountain tops, brother
I'd go further and say the import bans were actively helping the Russians. We already know they were selling off their actual military stockpiles, now imagine how much worse they'd be if the import bans didn't happen. Ivan would've sold us his entire Cold War arsenal so he could buy nice things for himself and just hope that nobody checks the boxes in the warehouses. Come February 2022 and they'd have marched across the Ukrainian border wielding clubs and throwing rocks.
>Hard disagree with this one....When I'm walking my dog at 11:00pm and I hear a rustling ir a rapidly approachig growling, a flashlight on my pistol is extremely useful.
Only issue with that is if you're aiming your light you're aiming your gun so in some jurisdictions that's "brandishing"
I'd like a glock with a manual safety. that's the main reason I don't frick with them
I'm intrigued by .32ACP but the only pistol that checks all the boxes for me is the Beretta Tomcat and those have cracking slides.
>The war in Ukraine has been a catastrophe for Russia.
>Russia can hold on to the territory they've gained if they can outlast Western support to Ukraine.
Agreed on both
Wrong. As others have said 9mm is too snappy for pocket guns but valid for a duty pistol. .380 is perfect for pocket carry.
>Only issue with that is if you're aiming your light you're aiming your gun so in some jurisdictions that's "brandishing"
I hear you there, and you're not wrong. But genuinely where I live, the way my neighborhood is set up& where it's located; aggressive stray& loose dogs are really my only concern. Also,
>I'd like a glock with a manual safety. that's the main reason I don't frick with them
Why not a Shield or a P365? Both are double stack strikers& both have manual safety options
>Also, I think it’s really cool
Picrel
>Why not a Shield or a P365? Both are double stack strikers& both have manual safety options
I've owned a P365SAS and didn't care for it. A family member has a Glock which I don't hate, but I'd prefer a safety. Right now by carry gun is a PPK/S that I practice with and am quite happy with.
>9mm is too snappy for pocket guns
If you're a fricking pussy, sure
The difference between 9mm recoil and .380 recoil is barely noticeable, you might as well get the one that doesn't fricking suck
>t.dosen't shoot
Yeah no you don't have a single idea what you're talking about.
well bend me over and frick me like a b***h, because I've owned and shot 9mm pocket guns and .380 pocket guns and I find the .380 to be far more accurate and pleasant to shoot meaning I practice with it more and get better with it
>Pistol caliber non-pistols are a cope for not being able to own short, suppressed SMGs, and as such, are gay.
Yep. Now you could make a case for a braced AR or Draco with a brace, but that's still a cope on it's own
>Bullpups are moronic and ugly
some look good, some look bad. that SA80 not-a-clone looks dope
My own unpopular opinion on the ideal CC pistol:
>25ACP, double stack ~15 round magazine
>DA/SA
>slide mounted safety/dewienerer
>~3" barrel
>steel slide, aluminum frame
>penetrator rounds, pic related
>Hogue-style rubberized grips
>OAL less than 5", width less than 1" on the slide, weight less 13 ounces unloaded
>My own unpopular opinion on the ideal CC pistol:
, double stack ~15 round magazine
mounted safety/dewienerer
>>~3" barrel
slide, aluminum frame
rounds, pic related
-style rubberized grips
>>OAL less than 5", width less than 1" on the slide, weight less 13 ounces unloaded
I want it and I want it now
>.25ACP
I absolutely believe I could take .25ACP to the chest and be fine after a quick ER visit.
Try it& post video, or else you're gay
Alright let me call my buddy who has a Colt Vest Pocket and see if he's down.
Alright I'll be anxiously waiting. I can loan you a Tanfoglio if he isn't down
Alright send it, I'll pay for the 2-day shipping. If it takes me out you have my permission to put a notch on it.
Yeah, my big concern with .32 guns is that there are criminally few of them, your best bet is to find older guns or surplus in general. If I had to choose one still made now, I'd probably seek out a Walther PP, as they were initially designed for it, but that's also bigger than most .32 users would probably like, given it's currently a deep CC cartridge.
I think a rimless .32 Long (beefed up a little if need be) would be nice. .32 Long is about the same length as .45 ACP, for reference, it's just much thinner so you'd be able to fit a lot into a magazine. Felt recoil is little different from a .22, so it should be really easy keeping the gun on target. But that's effectively fantasy, I may as well wish for rimless mini-shotshells optimized for magazines, or even for a girlfriend.
I've looked at the LCR in .327 and it is interesting. According to most ballistic calculators I've looked at it has almost 4 times the energy as the .380 ACP I carry. I've never shot one though and my local range doesn't have any rentals in it to shoot.
>I'm intrigued by .32ACP but the only pistol that checks all the boxes for me is the Beretta Tomcat and those have cracking slides.
Have you considered those revolvers chambered in .327 federal magnum, they can apparently shoot .32 acp.
I don't have any .327, but it's a rimmed cartridge isn't it? I don't know if .32 ACP would work well, at the least the extractor wouldn't engage with the brass.
Now, .32 Long, yeah, that's also rimmed. Can't say for certain but it seems to be a little shorter than .327, so the comparison is similar to .38 Special and .357 Magnum. As far as performance goes, it's probably about on par with .32 ACP despite being a longer bullet due to the pressure loss at the cylinder gap.
I actually dont mind the 10 round mag limits in my cuckstate since it means I don't have the urge to waste rounds and magdump since mag dumping a 10 rounder is pretty pointless. I have more fun shooting 10 rounders than 30s.
Cucked homosexual but I can't say I don't get it. I still use mainly 10rd mags for my 10/22 even though I have multiple 25 and 30rd mags for it. I have more fun loading and swapping mags like that.
20 round AR mags are by far the most aesthetic, and the fact that I will likely never actually end up using it in a conflict means that drip is the most important factor for me
Is that unpopular? The Vietnam era M16 is my favorite looking rifle and it looks perfect with the 20-rounders
I live in a non cucked state and never load my mags past 5 at the range.
Although that’s probably just autism really.
I'd append that statement, quality night vision isn't necessary for most people because they see them as fancy toys and not tools. The average Instagram "gooner" lives in a city, has no use nor training with night vision, and that money would have been infinitely better spent getting a basic, lower spec Gen 2+ or Gen 3 mono instead of gucci WP duals or some combination of thermal/duals, a non-FP LAM, then the rest of that money spent on ammo and training. But if I tell some fat Instagram techbro asiatic that I get called a poor or commie.
There is nothing wrong with selling guns, and it can often be a good thing if you do.
rich people sell guns all the time. hoarding crap you don't even use is poor people mentality
Guns can be assets. They're not old broken cars or TVs. Would you say people who buy land and hold onto it until they're ready to sell are hoarders? How about people who buy stock or invest in precious metals? They're not doing shit with the stuff so why don't they sell it and be done with it? The point is, some guns are worth selling yeah but there's guns that are definitely worth holding on to.
I think I have a genuinely unpopular opinion here.
I fricking hate safety homosexuals. I hate seeing stupid youtube video where they're in a controlled setting just showing off some gun and for a split second the guy handling the gun "flags" the cameraman. Just for a second, muzzle is pointed towards someone, finger off trigger, guns cleared, everything done right still get people b***hing. I have enough faith in some of these obviously experienced shooter and collectors to have cleared the guns before filming and showing it off even if it's not on camera. But you go to the comments and you just see all the comments "wow this guy is a moron at 1:13 he flagged the cameraman" and "terrible gun safety this guy shouldnt own guns" it's all over the place, like these guys are fricking firearm instructors and think they're doing everyone a favor by pointing the shit out. I know that repetition and familiarity leads to complacency. We don't follow gun safety rules because we can't control ourselves we do it to avoid becoming complacent. Basically, I hate people thinking they're experts and point out every little "rule break". An empty gun is no more dangerous than a rock and people break the rules all the time and no one says shit. If you carry a gun you're breaking the safety rules. If you ever been in a gun store and took a look at a gun I'm sure you accidentally pointed it at someone or something you werent willing to shoot. I'm sure sometimes yall don't think about whats 100 yards behind your target and you don't check either. Safety is important and it's important because complacency is dangerous but it's not a zero tolerance thing, there is leeway with rules. Zero tolerance means zero reason.
>I fricking hate safety homosexuals
In the contexts you're talking about, yeah I agree. However if I'm shooting clay pigeons on the farm with my buddies and one of them flags us with a shotgun that we all know with 100% certainty is unloaded, I'm still gonna call them out
>Zero tolerance means zero reason
Fricking moronic statement
It's a true statement. Where's the reason in zero-tolerance? You break a law you are judged based on logic. It's not a jab at zero-tolerance it's a statement that there's no reasoning when it comes to zero tolerance rules, which is factually true.
>ackshullay it's a simple logical statement
You're 15, maybe 19 tops, it shows.
Whatever you say safety b***h
Nice of your dad to let you play with his guns
Yeah
does this crown look OK to you?
Natural selection will take care of you. Maybe with this, maybe with something else you do with carelessness. We can only hope it happens before you reproduce
>muh natural selection
Don't you know safety rules are made for idiots? A smart person knows how to be safe without following rules, it's simple logic. It's the room temp IQ fricks that need to be told how to be safe.
>because accidents and mistakes never ever happen haha
>i swear lmao you can take my word for it I'm very very intelligent
the rules are written such that you have to break at least 2 at the same time before there's any chance of it actually being an issue.
smart people can cleverly only break 1 while being careful about the other 3
Making a conscious decision to pull a trigger aimed at your head isn't a simple whoopsie. Sounds like something an idiot would do.
>pull a trigger aimed at your head
I went back go edited this reply and it came out fricked kek
NTA but safety rules with firearms derive from the idea that under stress your ability to make those decisions will break down thus providing you with an instinctive backdrop to prevent something unintentional from happening. But I do agree that you get the added benefit of preventing stupid people from avoiding doing the same under normal circumstances.
Yeah I get it, I'm just having fun with this guy.
Carry on
Safety is not a laughing matter
do you ever get tired of policing other people about stuff you dont understand?
No, I don't
Yes
Frick redditors who think they're operators having autistic meltdowns because someone in a photo of a gun is touching the trigger
I fricking hate safety gays so much. The first rule of gun safety is to have fun.
>gun bunnies are awesome
Agreed, but I don't like them covered in tattoos. Most are unfortunately.
>high speed/low drag
Low speed/high drag is optimal.
I'm tempted to test this out between my diamond back sidekick, and my friend's. Granted it's only a 22lr revolver.
>aks for days
based What's with the huge brake on the top left? Also, I had a toy gun when I was younger that looked exactly like bottom left.
>opinions
9x18 is superior for carry.
7.62x39 is superior to 5.56.
If you want to hit someone at 400 yards or greater use 308.
Lever actions are just as accurate as bolt actions.
45-70 makes my dick hard and my wallet empty.
I would lovingly caress pic related after I bury my wiener deep inside her pussy. If you know what I mean.
That's my Tula AKM kit with a Strela Sputnik on it. It's fricking huge and ridiculous but I like it.
Is that your girl? Is she single? Also, nice rifle.
>Caring about barrel length is done exclusively by homosexuals that are insecure about their sexual performance.
>Most handgun rounds have a nearly identical effect on the human body within 7 yards and any argument about them is just a poorly intellectualized pissing match between homosexuals that are insecure about their sexual performance.
>There's nothing wrong with owning something for fun but far too many people try to find some kind of le epic operator gunfighter reason to do so and it makes them look desperate and/or insecure about their sexual performance.
>Collecting is fine but when you have have more than a dozen guns with several of them being nearly identical it becomes beard oil man soap alternative funko pops
>Way too many gun owners are obese and low testosterone and it makes everyone who isn't look bad by lending credence to leftist stereotypes
you spend a lot of time thinking about homosexuals and their sexual performance
I'm on this board a lot so I get a lot of exposure to it
Gun bunnies are fricking awesome. I like guns. I like breasts. Two of the things I like, together? Frick the hell yeah.
A concealable pistol, adequate training with it, and the will and resolve to use it covers you for 99% of instances in which you might need to use a gun to protect your own life. The chances of you being in a situation in which you might ever need to are slim, and the chances that you'll be in a situation that SPECIFICALLY calls for a fighting rifle are slimmer still.
In that same vein, people are allowed to fricking buy things just because they think they're cool. Yeah, if I needed to protect myself, chances are it'll be with my CC at some shady gas station in the middle of the night, but I'm still going to buy a bunch of other guns because I think they're cool. I have a Jericho because I think space cowboys are cool. I have a nagant revolver because I think Zone cowboys are cool. I have an O/U because I think Mojave cowboys are cool. Some guns really are just toys, and gun ownership can be a fun hobby.
High speed/low drag operators are fricking stupid, and if the apocalypse they keep fantasizing about happens, they will die, every single one of them.
If you read this entire shitty blogpost, congrats. You're a fricking queer, and tell your mom I said thanks for the milk and cookies, it was a really special touch after fingering my butthole till I broke down crying about my family issues.
>I like another man's sloppy seconds
Tragic
>"don't cowboy the revolver it's bad for it!"
This is true though. It fricks up the timing of the cylinder and is a b***h to fix.
https://peachstatearmory.com/2018/02/14/stop-bullying-revolvers/#:~:text=%E2%80%9CCowboying%E2%80%9D%20a%20revolver%20is%20one,rear%20of%20the%20cylinder%20housing.
Let me ask you a couple simple questions. What parts does it effect specifically that fricks with the timing? How many times do I have to slam my cylinder for said part(s) to cause timing issues?
>control "don't cowboy the revolver it's bad for it!"
This one is true though
I'm not saying it's not bad for the gun I'm saying with how many times you have to do the things that are "bad for the gun" it'll take years upon years to do any actual damage. That is unless the gun is an absolute piece of shit which to that I say, good riddance.
Yea
Consider that it is not your gun and therefore not your problem
Making fun of someone who does something stupid with their gun is fine. Getting mad about what another man does with his gun is severely inept and autistic.
All of my favorite firearms to shoot are cheap. Ive fired a good amount of friends guns that have all the bells and whistles, optics etc and cost thosands of dollars, but I enjoy shooting my cheap beaters with ironsights. Except for my PTR91 If never paid more than $700 for a gun.
Also cheap doesnt always mean garbage. Most of my guns are sub $400 and Ive very rarely had a malfunction let alone breakage.
I also dont buy meme carry ammo or stuff labeled "defense" ++P+++. I carry what I practice with, which is usually the cheapest bulk ball ammo I can find.
Damn, there's another one of me out there. The most expensive single gun I've bought was my PTR91 and it collects dust, but this P2000sk got to $1100 with the Trijicon sights and the match weight. I know that rifles are a little different, but for handguns, I've always felt that the $1000+ market has very little to offer for the average Joe. There are some neat designs like the Alien or P7 that are only attainable at a high price, but the majority of expensive pistols are just cheap pistols with a ton of hand fitting. A CZ TS 2 or a Tanfoglio whatever is still just a CZ75, the 92X Performance is still just a 92, a Wilson Combat/Les Baer is still just a 1911, and we could go on and on. The tricked-out versions of the guns aren't that appealing to me when I know that I can get the $600-700 base spec and get most of the experience. If I'm going to turn out my wallet for a gun, I want it to be exclusive. One of the worst offenders with this IMO is Korth, where they sell their $3,800 Mongoose with the same $15 Hogue Monogrip that you would find on a pawn shop Taurus.
You should dust off that PTR, that heavy b***h needs a good slap every now and then. My only excuse for not shooting mine (or any rifle) for a while is the closest outdoor range to me is closed for "renovations"..for 2 years..
It would be easier if ammo was cheaper. I bought mine in 2015, and the cheap shit was 32c-35c a round. Now its 75c a round. That's $15 for one mag. I've never been much a rifle shooter anyways, so I can only think about how much farther that $15 would go in a different area of interest.
I love it. Handguns are very subjective, and to me, there are absolutely no downsides to the LCR. The trigger is great and makes accurate shots easy, it's light enough to disappear in your holster/pocket, and shooting it is absolutely fun.
>I love it. Handguns are very subjective, and to me, there are absolutely no downsides to the LCR. The trigger is great and makes accurate shots easy, it's light enough to disappear in your holster/pocket, and shooting it is absolutely fun.
Nice. I've fungerfricked some at the LGS and funshows. Thoughts on the hammerless vs the DA/SA model?
beats brass
how do you like that LCR?
People are fricking COPING, always blaming their guns "Oh if I had XYZ I would get better groups" type of bullshit. They fantasize of finding the perfect gun which will get them perfect shots when you should grab whatever you can afford and spend as much time as you can training.
Hell when I couldn't afford bullets I would dry fire an hour a day.
Everything after your third gun is cope trying to scratch an unscratchable itch because guns are defined by their compromises.
Guns should be more customizable. The chamber and magazines should be interchangeable in about 80 percent of every popular rifle.
Guns are not ergonomic enough.
Adjusting to a gun is a failure of the gun.
Shooting outside of 300 yards should require a permit. The only one. Not for silencers or sbrs.
Hunting rifles should have pistol grips
>Shooting outside of 300 yards should require a permit
Pump the motherfricking brakes you godless Commie
You realistically only NEED 3 guns.
Hunting rifle
Carry weapon
Home defense weapon
If your tastes or situation changes then by all means make a purchase to replace one or the other but those are the only 3 gun roles anyone needs to fill.
>NEED
You're a liberal
You took that the exact wrong way.
.t owns 35 guns
>That's not 40
It's just my (complete) rifles and none of them are worth a frick.
>That's not 40
My bad I thought 40 at first but I was counting incomplete ARs I have laying around. One day I'll finish my M16 and Colt 733 builds I swear...
You can lie to us but you can't lie to yourself
I 100% can lie to myself... friend.
>he really thinks he's bragging
Bragging about what? All my cheap guns? I'm just showing you that I actually own guns and don't believe everyone should only have 3. Not everyones trying to get ahead of you man, relax.
>Everything after your third gun is cope trying to scratch an unscratchable itch because guns are defined by their compromises.
there's more than three compromises that can be made and there are near infinite niches
>Guns should be more customizable. The chamber and magazines should be interchangeable in about 80 percent of every popular rifle.
you already have the AR
>Shooting outside of 300 yards should require a permit. The only one. Not for silencers or sbrs.
I don't think I've read a shittier opinion yet, congrats
We as a culture seem to have kept the “everyone has a right to own firearms” bit, but too many have lost or never learned the unsaid “don’t be a dipshit with firearms” bit… and if we don’t get that back it’ll probably make us lose more of the former in the long run.
AR15s all do the exact same thing equally well and they're boring.
you only need one doublestack striker fired 9mm handgun, any more than one is a waste of money and a background check
pistol suppressors are moronic
semi automatic "pccs" are toys
AR's are toys as well
>semi automatic "pccs" are toys
Yeah, they're fun for sure.
Anything smaller than .30 cal is a toy in my book.
22lr is the best round because it's the cheapest and therefore can be shot the most
Manual actions are more fun than autoloaders
Every gun that isn't your carry piece is a toy
Every gun kept for home defense needs a light, no exceptions
The only things that matter in a carry piece is if you trust its ability to put down a man and if you can comfortably carry it every day
The Russian and Chinese ammo bans and their consequences have been a disaster for shooters
LARPing is A-okay so long as you're not deluding yourself into thinking it's legitimate training. Nothing wrong with a bit of tactical dress up
I think analog NVGs are an overhyped meme and you're far better off with a thermal scope. At least for hunting, pest control, or any kind of hypothetical scenario where you're fighting other people. The detection of thermals is invaluable and underrated. You can barely see someone in daylight hiding in decent camouflage and foliage, let alone through blue or white phosphor NVGs. And consider the cost to make analog NV even USEABLE for night fighting (without bargain barrel chinkshit)
>PVS-14: ~$2500
>Helmet: varies wildly but still required
>Bracket and mount: ~$250
>IR laser: $1000 minimum for a shitty FDA compliant one
>Passive aiming optic: $300 for an EOTech 552 if you get lucky
>All the other IG hypebeast bullshit like strobes, IR chemlights, muh NIR compliance, etc.
VS
>$3500 I spent on a US military PAS-13 lol get fricked
The bayonet is the most mandatory attachment for any long gun you own when SHTF.
>easy to make and maintain compared to other attachments
>minimal talent to utilize.
>effective at being your sidearm when you run out of ammo.
>you can simply detach it if you really don’t need it and use it as a tool if need be.
>flashlights can be added to the Side
>the only downside is the barrel ways slightly more, but this can be negated by working out
So tell me, why should I not invest into bayonets for all of my long guns?
I can't argue with this. I also find it reasonable that shotguns should be fitted with bayonets, given their limited capacity and typical usage at shorter ranges. A bayonet is a natural extension of its ability to remove human innards or at least rearrange them.
shotty too heavy for bayo thrusting, too easy to parry.
>shotty too heavy for bayo thrusting
Have you ever held a nugget? Or an SMLE? Or a K98? Or an M14? They all weigh more than an 18.5" shotgun. Classic battle rifles like that are all 8.5 - 10lbs vs. an average shotgun which weighs about 6-7lbs.
Why is it that people would buy a big knife that cannot be used as a bayo? Only a pussy who is not doing some upper body exercise would be at a disadvantage wth a 8" blade knife.
There’s a reason god inspired Mossberg to keep the lug on 590s. My 590 will someday soon have a bayonet.
Based fellow shotgun bayoneter
How much was yours? I like it
I don't remember man, it's been years. I'm sure it cost me more than it'll cost you though, I'm a leaf and we always get raped on prices up here
The american millitary is ineffective because its soldiers are from inferior races.
Ukraine is losing the war
China would easily take over Taiwan in a war
Ukraine war is the biggest frick up in american millitary history.
Putin is a millitary mastermind
Trying too hard or zigger?
Amerimutt tounge my anus
32 acp is the perfect caliber for self defense.
.32 is probably the best balance of actual stopping power combined with justifiable mag dump
something like .45 or 10mm and the fun is over after 1-2 shots but if you've gotta shoot the future astronaut with .32 you're gonna use the whole magazine.
I think that the bullpup form factor is superior, and that if as much money was pumped into R&D for them as Stoners' design was throughout the years, then most rifles would be bullpups and nearly all of the platform's problems (both miniscule and imagined) would have been resolved 20 years ago.
>Other than that you'd be better off spending $1000 - $2000 on some cheap NV shit to scratch the itch and save your money
Even that is a waste of money. People who brag about their NV goggles are all fricking larpers who never use them.
Ukraine is more fit to be Leader of the Free World than the United States of America
/k/ is the best argument for gun control and abortion.
Level 4 armor is a waste of money. You'll probably never be shot with anything that couldn't be stopped by level 2 armor, and you'll definitely never be shot with anything that couldn't be stopped by level 3a armor.
In the event of an actual war between America and Russia, we're going to have a huge problem with Americans selling out their own side to the Russians either for profit or just out of pure malice because Ivan's propaganda has been just that effective at penetrating every level of our society
By "americans" I assume you mean certain groups of communist loving queers. Average American is not fricking with some Russians coming in and trying to take over. "Ayo bruh who dis homie pullin up to da hood dressed like a straight homosexual bruh. Let rock this homie ass and sell dey shit foe some sweets cuh." He's black because more black people have guns and are willing to shoot someone than whites.
The poor grammar and syntax is spot on. Well done.
>we're going to have a huge problem with Americans selling out their own side to the Russians
What, terminally online facebook boomers posting gobbless? If that's the biggest concern (and it probably will be given the state of the Russian military), then I almost welcome such a conflict.
The real issue would probably still be recruitment. I know that on my part, even during such an invasion, I probably still wouldn't be keen on joining the military. I'll gladly be an anti-Ruskie bushwhacker if the Russians roll into my city (defense of my home and free surp too), but I am not joining the military proper.
there is no need to carry anything other than a revolver for most civilian self defense. infact i believe a revolver is superior to a glock in almost every way when it comes to self defense.
Couldn't agree more, picrel
Hadn't considered it before, but the way you put it… I think you're absolutely right. This is one of the last bastions of internet engagement, where pure trolling and genuine discourse blend perfectly with the curious and the schizophrenic. As much as I hate /k/, I love /k/, and it's better than anywhere else
could you give some reasoning why its superior?
Not him, but I think the primary superiority of a snubby over something like a subcompact glock is this: highly comfortable concealability.
I understand that there are myriad holster options for Glocks, and many of them are pretty comfortable, and with the right clothing very concealable. But picrel
doesn't need a holster. That clip secures the gun in the waistband very well, and very comfortably. The revolver, aside from the cylinder, is much narrower than a Glock, and presses against the body more sveltly. I carry that snub AIWB in 6" gym shorts and a cut off t-shirt during the summer when I walk my dog or go go for a bike ride. It doesn't print, it doesn't sag, it's so small& light that I almost forget it's even there. It's got 10lb trigger, there's zero chance it's going off by accident, and it doesn't need a trigger cover/holster. A snubby is just so much easier to safely& comfortably carry than a striker gun.
That said, obviously the glock will generally have a higher capacity and much better sights: I'll never refute that. I'm of the opinion that the capacity isn't a real issue, but many people disagree. I do wish snubnoses came standard with the ability to put a red-dot on, like the new Taurus TORO's, only those are 3" barrels& I'd like to see it on a 2". The sights on a snubose are generally the biggest weakness, so regular practice is key
>could you give some reasoning why its superior?
Primarily failures in my lifetime on all weapons are semi automatics either failing to feed into the ramp due to the gun being designed for non hollowpoint or a primer failure/ammunition failure (even in shotguns) both are not an issue in revolvers. In particular the entire issue of ammunition failure is solved by just pulling the trigger again, way faster than any drill to clear a semi. They are easier to check the status of in the dark and generally have slightly heavier and safer triggers. Use what you like. I always carried a pair of five inch 44 mags when I was worried about shooting people (normally people who might be standing right next to me or sitting in a car next to me. A big leather jacket is your friend and takes soft kevlar panels as well
until you have a hangfire and you pull the trigger again before it goes off, destroying your revolver and some number of your fingers
Fair point just its never happened but I do have floaters from a hangfire in a bolt action 22 that went off after I pulled the bolt so I'm not going to say you are wrong. Use what ever you are comfortable with. The good news is I will still have another hand and another revolver.
op anon here
the ability to keep your brass is useful in a self defense situation for reasons i am sure you can see.
courts also looks upon revolvers much more favorably than so called "military handguns". i dont see any point in saving my own life with a gun, only to be put away for 12 years because i used a "scary" looking gun in the eyes of 10 morons.
if i need to pull out my gun and a cop arrives or sees, he is less likely to immediately shoot me if i am holding a revolver.
Show me a court case where the prosecution made a point of the handgun being "military-style" semi-automatic and got a conviction
nta, but the solution to most malfunctions is
>pull the trigger again.
Also on the hip, they generally conceal better and are easier to draw because the handle sticks out further from the gun and is less bulky.
/k/ is the most fascinating collection of ex mercenaries and soldiers police, terrorists, genuine history and intelligence experts, AR Builders, Milsurp experts raving homosexuals, psychopaths and Russian and middle eastern dictatorship propagandists in the history of man. This is the most based place on the internet and far greater than the rest of this site combined.
I have always suggested that admiring people who do real stuff is a better survival tactic than admiring people who pretend to do real stuff. Based on actually surviving stuff. Unlike most of the survival experts out there.
>unpopular opinions
>200+ replies of the most average and popular opinions
Oh well maybe next thread
Shotguns are excellent home defence weapons and have not been completely supplanted by rifles. They are as close as you can get to a one-shot stop, and can be loaded with ammo that is less likely to pose an over penetration threat to neighbours in an urban or suburban environment. The users here who are convinced that shotguns have no tactical use are suffering from AR autism brainrot
>The users here who are convinced that shotguns have no tactical use are suffering from AR autism brainrot
Preach brother, Amen. Shotguns are the most versatile firearms out there& they're fantastic for HD
5.56 penetrates fewer layers of drywall than buckshot and birdshot isn’t reliable at stopping people.
There are a lot of different sizes of buckshot.
00, 0, and #1 are the only ones worth using for self defense
#4 is commonly recommended by shotgun instructors
Your gear won't matter in SHTF, lone males will just be shot on sight and groups of males with no women or children to a community will just be seen as a threat
SHTF will never happen in your country in your lifetime.
at absolute worst you get george floyd on steroids for a few weeks, and gear works fine for guarding a pawn shop for that time.
this
I think it takes very long for a western society to internally deteriorate to the point where armed citizen militias and villages acting as gated communities become a necessity. It took ancient Rome about 300 years to fall and that was with big outside pressure.
I think the most likely worst case scenario is literally becoming Brazil, not mad max type shit. Upgrading your house’s security (door strike plates, window locks, security film, bars if need be) a good cc and common sense will be worth way more than level IV plates and NVGs.
Oh and most importantly, living more than driving distance from a large population of “economically disadvantaged urban youths”
>unpopular opinion
For less than $500, you can put a 3-9x and a 45° red dot on your fighting rifle
It'll weigh less and do a better job than whatever you're using now. It's more difficult to break and if something does go wrong, you still have the other optic
For a range toy, sure. But if you intend to trust your life to the gun as a "fighting" rifle, I seriously fricking doubt you can squeeze two optics into that budget that are fit for purpose
Have you looked at what people do to the Romeo 5?
3-9x are built for 300 win mag and 30-06 on a 6 pound rifle. Because that's what people do with them. There's nothing there to break either because all the bogus marketing features like parallax and battery-a-day illumination have been stripped away.
You're not going to break either.
But if you did, there's still another independent optic ready and waiting
3-9x and cheap red dot cannot be defeated
>3-9x are built for 300 win mag and 30-06 on a 6 pound rifle
3-9x is a feature, not a product. You can pay $100 or whatever for a Vortex Crossfire that I wouldn't even trust on a deer rifle, or you can spend $700 on a Leupold. They are not built to the same standard, and you do not want a low-end cheap chinkshit scope on a combat rifle. The Romeo 5 is good though.
he said sub $500
for that you get a romeo 5, a vx freedom, and a mount.
I'd trust that setup
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Calling this place Reddit is an insult to Reddit. I hate all of you.
>unpopular opinion
The L85A2 (A2 not A1 learn to read) is a good service rifle which looks good.
>t. completely unbiased britbong
Have you shot one?
Yes. It is the first rifle I ever shot.
I will caveat this by saying that it is way too fricking heavy. Anyone who disagrees is a noguns moron who's never had to stand at attention on parade holding a 5 kg rifle in the palm of your hand.
I only browse /k/ once a week now because I'm completely tired of the shills pushing for Ukraine support.
I don't care about slavs, I never have, and never will. I wished that the Nazis would have just eradicated everything east of their boarders, including poland.
>slava ukrani
The gun you choose for the boog
The gun you choose for HD
The gun you choose for EDC
It literally does not matter at all so you might as well have some fun picking cool things compared to the normal unflavored oatmeal of Glocks and AR15s
>early boog
Any military issue M4 (easy to find parts, mags and ammuniton)
>late boog
Bog standard bolt action 223
anyone who says anything else is either a moron or lives in hyperspecific circumstances which require niche weaponry
that's moronic. AR15's become bolt action on their own if you run them long enough without maintenance
no, you are moronic. Didn't you read my post?
>anyone who says anything else is either a moron or...
ARgays literally can not cope with the fact that their gun is okay and other platforms do exactly the same thing
A constant stream of Ukraine war threads is entirely reasonable and to expect otherwise would be absurd, for several reasons. Other than the fact this is the largest near-peer war to take place in decades, it's also one that has major ramifications for shit going forward both for the West and East.
But that's irrelevant, because the actual warfighting is so fricking /k/ that to want it off the board is insane. We see the evolution of infantry tactics in a modern-day conflict and Western equipment facing off against Russian kit, on a large scale. In the past, a US soldier firing a M249 at a collection of huts 500m away, filmed on a 240p camera was considered incredible combat footage. Now we have daily HD videos, including tank duels filmed with practically Hollywood-level camera work, CQC combat, missile POV footage where you can see the exact "oh shit" expression on a Slav's face before he ceases to exist in any meaningful way, pilots filming their own shootdowns and a dozen other things I'm sure I'm forgetting. This is a fricking golden age, the only problem is that there's a lot of frickers after the gold.
Weapons exist to kill and war is why we love them. The power ability to apply violence confers is what all natures predators including the apex predator, Man, evolved to employ and desire.
Without war weapons would be as interesting as toasters.
Back in the day we had general threads, we didn’t make a new thread for every new webm. Check the archives, we had regular generals for Ukraine and Syria in 2015.
Back in the day syria general was a vatBlack person controlled and brigaded thread just like chug. Looking for a general because its easier to police and slide is a big thing for Russian shills. About once or twice a month Russian shills will start a bullshit 'meta' general looking for all UKraine content to be placed in a general, so they can slide whatever they want to censor like they used back in the shit old days, when they frequently hijacked the entire board for days with their bullshit. If you want /misc/ by all means go to fricking /misc/ but don;t bring that vatBlack person tactics cancer here
dude you’re actually schizophrenic
threads make it harder to slide shit because all the aggregate posts bump the thread and you can LINK them which also awesome for actually following something.
Spamming the fricking board with webms is what actual shills do because it causes slides to thread and doesn’t allow for any good discussion before the thread slides from the next dozen webms.
gays like you, letting vatniks live rent free in your heads, ruined this board beyond its oringinal homosexualry.
/sks/ - shit /k/ says
>Open carry sucks
That one is literally just an opinion. There was a time when "only a criminal would want to conceal a weapon" and if you did you were assumed to be a criminal.
I'm tired of every handgun looking exactly the same and the only reason we have this problem is because tactitards run the market. Every gun needs the same accessory rail to mount a flashlight, every trigger "needs" a dingus, the top of the slide needs to be flat for easy optics mounting, every trigger guard must be squared off, front serrations must be on every slide, and the inferior button mag release must be on everything. The last one pisses me off the most, because tactitards swear that their red dot sight and WML will give them a life-saving advantage, yet can't spend a little bit of time learning to use a paddle mag release. That's how you know all of the "tactical" bullshit is completely superficial and is driven by social media. People insist on doubling the price of their base handgun with accessories, yet demand a button mag release even though there are multiple videos a year showing accidental mag drops in gunfights because of them. If paddle mag releases were an aftermarket accessory that cost $200, I guarantee people would be putting them on everything, but they're not a flashy piece of equipment to post online, so they're being phased out.
TL;DR: If your favorite pistol fits into this template, you are part of the problem.
Whether or not cowboying a revolver ruins it (it does) there's no reason to do it so people, like, I don't know, advocating for it or whatever are fricking idiots
You could also stick your favorite autoloader's magwell in a vise and wack on the slide a few times with a rubber mallet without damaging it beyond functionality but why the frick are you doing it in the first place?
Prove it
>>Min-maxing everything
>I fricking hate you homosexuals trying to min-max literally anything possible.
This is probably where I disagree with you. If it's not broke don't fix it. I'm totally fine with a generic SWSD9VE. Some people will b***h the trigger sucks because of the weight and not that they ever handled one. One time I got my finger stuck behind the trigger after the striker fired and my finger was pinched in there and I couldn't get it out. I'm flailing my hand around trying to get this thing off like thinking holy shit I'm glad nobody is watching me do this and this thing is unloaded but I managed to pinch the living shit out of finger with that thing and couldn't get it off while dry firing just because I figured that would happen if I did that but I still had to fricking try it anyway. I completely get if people want something that can't physically get jammed by the trigger if you ever seen those solid 1911 triggers where nothing can get behind it.
With older weapons if they're used you don't know who's owned them or done with them. A lot of older 1911's have internal extractors inside the slide and riding it over the round would wear them down over time, what you're b***hing about. Other times I've seen rifles been used for decades don't matter who touches them the thing can't hit a fricking barn, shots are keyholing at 20 feet on paper when it shouldn't be doing that till it hits something fleshy much further away. I'd think damage to the barrel crown or muzzle break but there is no obvious reason why they do it I've seen dozens of people inspect these weapons say it's okay then no matter who uses it can't hit a fricking barn consistently with that specific gun. Actually that's why you don't replace parts with used parts. Weapons warp over time and the pieces wear a specific way. If you have parts swapped around from used ones they get out of tolerance in weird ways that don't work.
just to clarify I was playing around trigger pull in ways i thought my fat sausage fingers might get caught in there and trying not to do techniques people told me on purpose just to see how much of a difference there was, it wasn't the guns fault that was an induced operator error mostly on purpose like what's the worse thing that could happen? I jammed my gun and went owee owee owee like a b***h till I fixed it. Racking the slide didn't work I had to fricking drop the mag reload it and then rework the slide then the trigger stopped tormenting me. I absolutely despise those mag safety slide lock deals.
having a really gucci, super light and crisp trigger on a rifle isnt important outside of competition shooting or sniping/hunting. always bugs me when people completely disregard a gun simply because "ugh the trigger sucks bro, its just so stiff " or some other crap. Like motherfricker trust me when your using that thing in any kind of urgency, you fricking squeeze that b***h all the same, makes zero odds if its 4% heavier pull os2n0
r some bullshit
If it's a defensive gun, which it is if it isn't for competition or hunting, then a gucci lightened trigger is not only unnecessary, it's a liability. The lighter it is, the easier it is for it to unintentionally discharge, and that's bad when paired with adrenaline
yeah i seen that with a bolt action believe it or not, guy had the hairiest of triggers on it cause he "needs to be able to release a shot within a heartbeat, if the opportunity presents itself cause it may never come again". This man was hunting rabbits with a .223. He set it off with the button on sleeve cuff while he was trying to stand up.
The AK47 is a very ugly fricking gun.
Rifle is fine.
There is very little practical difference in a revolver made in the 1850s and a modern state of the art handgun, in either handling, terminal ballistics or accuracy. Bear in mind that almost no pistol gunfights go on for more than a few shots and that virtually all modern handgun calibres descent from 36 cal 380/9mm or 44 cal 452/450 and since all handguns go is poke holes as long as they poke a 12 inch hole there is not much difference between them. Isn't it amazing we have made so little progress in a key personal defence weapon in such a long time? I'm not even going to talk about how the 1850s revolvers actually point better or are better at 75 yards than a 9mm semi either.
Non-magnum long action calibers are so neutered that you're better off with short action calibers. Only exception is for milsurp or granpappy's model 70.
This also applies to 10mm.
American should of just copied the AK format and stuck with it to this day as the main US service rifle rather than waste time trying to reinvent the wheel.