Based or cringe? Why isnt everyone doing it? We have excavators, reinforced concrete and cheap waterproofing now.
Some leftist stated interesting advantages :
- warm in winter and cold in summer
- easy to hide from building inspectors so no taxes
- defendable
- resists to small storms
I see it more and more as ideal in hilly land, far from water sources with an EPDM liner on top and with good insulation and 2", not 10" of dirt that weighs 50 tons.
Also good drainage in the dirt around it and what they call an uphill patio as in picrel
i couldn't do it. would feel like being buried alive. and if any catastrophic failures, you could be literally buried alive,
would rathar live in a tree fort
Your roof and walls aren't exactly light. They'll bury you just as thoroughly.
I could probably lift a whole mcmansion by myself
Very cool. My only concern is water running down the hill into my house.
>- easy to hide from building inspectors so no taxes
You're about to dig a house sized bunker in the side of the hill.
That shouldn't raise any warning.
Kek, tbh water seems a bit scary but where I live many people live in basements and they are comfy there. If they can waterproof it pretty sure they could waterproof the same structure nut without the house on top?
Funny PIC tho 10/10!
Forgot picrel
A couple dozen people drowned in their basement apartments in NYC about a year ago because it rained a lot one day.
Enjoy your mold
Top kek, anon. Well done.
The guy actually mentions shooting a few bears in the book iirc.
Neat idea OP. Kind of based.
I cant wait for your remains to mummify in your own piss and shit after some heavy rain blocks your only means of exit with debris.
Mike Oehler's underground housing dvd seminar and books. Lemme know if you can't find them via torrent or telegram and I'll post them when I get home.
He's the OG on underground housing. What it should be called is a 'cliff-side dwelling that cannot be seen'. Mike's idea was to buy cheaper hillside land that no one wanted, and build a house that had a good roof from the elements, let in light, incorporated a greenhouse, and had plenty of fresh air flow.
OP's offered image looks like a crude plagiarism of Mike's work.
Was thinking of doing something along these lines last year. Found a cheap plot of land on the side of a large hill, with the majority of the plot on the low side behind the hill. Land was dirt cheap, could have built my crazy dream home into the side of the hill and saved $15k. Only issue is it was in the middle of nowhere, but still had an absolutely insane HoA that I would have to be apart of.
Why would the HOA give a shit? Your whole house is out of sight, theyll just ask for their cheques and thank you for not shitting up the view
They would probably object to the muddy, torn up ground covered with mounds of garbage and parts cars.
I don't want to pay some stupid ass fee to an HOA for a property I OWN just so they can tell me what I can or can't do. Part of the appeal to the plot is that it's absolutely the perfect size, and geographic location for me to set up a gun range on. From checking into local city ordinances, I'd be fine there too.
But I get the feeling the HOA full of jackasses with mini mansions, that make up all of the nearby housing, would take issue. The flat-er area at the bottom of the hill pointed into another small hill, and was nothing but miles of cornfield after the trees thin out.
Not into cars, nor do I drive a truck with truck nuts. So zero risk of that.
>Why isnt everyone doing it?
People with superpowers tend to stay off the radar.
what shitholes do you have to worry about radon gas in i forgot
>what shitholes do you have to worry about radon gas in i forgot
Pretty much everywhere. You can be in a seemingly 'safe' zone but when you zoom in the maps the major population areas tend to be in the 'unsafe' zones.
what is this, a picture for ants?
you need to seek out a region specific map is my point. Macro view doesnt tell you anything.
Yeah radon is wild. Our friends just bought a newer house 20 minutes from us and the radon levels were something like 100 times the EPA "safe" value and they had to get a radon mitigation system installed (pipe and fan). Feel bad for the family who was there before and did notning...We just moved into a 100 year old house and our levels were somehow less than estimated above ground levels.
you could build the walls and floor so that radon gas cant get in, no?
i bet amaterial like floor tiles would suffice
idk, radon is heavy and abatement usually involves pumping air out of the lowest spot nonstop.
Most people would experience significant psychological stress living completely underground.
You can't seal it up well enough most of the time. Preferred method in areas with high radon levels is usually a series of perforated pipes under the foundation/slab that vent out through a stack with a powered fan to create a slight negative pressure.
radon is a meme. You'd be hard pressed to find a place that'll give you more than a PET/CT full body x-ray scan dose in 5 years. That's nothing. Suck a dick, radon salesman.
1. Being underground means no natural ventilation, light, or views. Humans don't do great psychologically in dank caves.
2. No one is doing track houses like this due to the niche market and anyone with the money, time, and knowhow to make their own probably won't want to build a cuck cave.
A properly built underground house can be pretty luminous and airy if you're not moronic when you built it
Unless that's local ground water level it should not be hard to figure drainige of surface water so it would not flood in and Putin pump in lowest part of your zemjanka once in a while to get rid of little water that seeped in/ condensed on ceiling.
>Why isnt everyone doing it?
We aren't mole people.
https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=DFF4F152D35CEFA7D88BB5A95FBE59A4
Yeah, that's Mike's first (construction) book.
I've been waiting for someone to post a pic with Saddam Hussein. What can't be seen in the OP's sketch, is how as rain comes down the mountain, it is diverted left and right, around the house. Uphill, there is a an inverted-V shaped swale, to both build organic material but mainly to divert surface water flows around the upper opening.
And in Mike's designs, he had openings below, like dormers, that would flare up on the corner. That would let in light, but also divert water away from that area. As contrasted with a very square, plain flat roof that would simply have a drip edge at the bottom, there was earth brought up to the central part of the bottom lip, so groundwater could run off. On the corners, projecting dormers would channel that water to the center, while taking in light from the solar-facing hillside.
My impression is you definitely want the sun-facing slope. As the sun arches across the sky, it throws light in through the glass-covered peaks on either corner, one for bringing in morning sun, and one for evening. Though they project up from the original slope of the forest floor, their overall height is so low that they are not possible to see from further downslope or from the sky. No one is looking for two slightly-raised triangles, as indicators of presence of a house. You won't see them from aircraft/drones, and you won't see them when walking up, until you're right in front of them.
The entire roof of the house, including the angular peaks, are covered by a heavy layer of earth. That masks shape, heat signatures, etc. And provides protection from what Mike intuited would be some kind of cosmic radiation event. He wasn't wrong; the glowgays censored the Adam and Eve Story. Redacted copies, missing over a hundred pages, can be found online for free. That's what Mike was intuitively connecting with.
Anon the feds didnt censor Seven Ancient Wonders, the part where Jack West is blessed by god is right there
Read this. Water concern shills are moronic.
Then calmly explain why flooded basements are so common.
Advertising a book huh?
>$50 house
let me guess he already had the lumber for the roof and supports and tools
may fly experiments have shown that flies underground have 70% reduction in ambition
the experiment was a bunch of flies in a jar with a line at the top 8th the number of flies that crossed the line were counted experiment done under ground and above ground same temp near same humidity.
scary stuff.
That’s the whole point of dwelling underground. You’re safe and secure with few needs.
You'll have many needs, the hole will not dig itself.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10735609/Woman-complains-boyfriend-spends-free-time-digging-TUNNEL-property.html
https://www.messynessychic.com/2021/12/02/what-lies-beneath-the-curious-underworld-of-hobby-tunnelling/28vnbd
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>https://www.messynessychic.com/2021/12/02/what-lies-beneath-the-curious-underworld-of-hobby-tunnelling/28vnbd
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The one under the pool is wicked cool.
Nice try OP
Can we see a real underground house?
So it looks like two families or two generations, with nice clean clothes, lots of containers, a cow, three horses, two carriages. And they live in a hole in the ground.
A different world, but they seem to be thriving.
>lots of containers
every time i see this, the roof reminds me of Anaheim train station. The station was design to be passively cooled.
Yea those are basically the same roof. I see your point.
What happens with water running down the hill? It’s like living in the gutter of a roof
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>09/29/23(Fri)09:21:57 No.2689028
>What happens with water running down the hill? It’s like living in the gutter of a roof
Fricking drain it brogan
>drain it
basically its about 2.7 times more likely to catastrophic flood today than when this thread started. And dealing with that xtent of water, in every eventuality, becomes non-viable. I used to live in a house in a major European city that had a cosy basement - wondered why no-one had did anything with it. Must have fitted that shit out (flooring etc) two or three times before I got the message. And that was after installing 'flood proof' drain systems, et-fricking-cetera. tldtr, build underground, youd better have an upstairs. Because in most places, that shits gonna get wet, soon enough.
yea don't new yorkers drown like rats in the recent weeks?
feels good to live in the elevated part of a city
>All this pissing and moaning about ground water coming in
Creeper aaaaaaawwww man
Not one single Saddam Hussein. Not an underground house without one.
municipalities will never let them be built, unfortunately
Just don't tell them. It's not like they'll see it.
What about the giant pile of dirt and muddy creek?
sadam.jaypeg
Plato was a gay and this analogy is shit.
>Some leftist stated
Here's your clue it's a moronic idea.
>light is nice
>waterproofing is not 100%
>digging big holes costs big machine time, lots of fuel to run the big machine and a meat robot to pilot it
Look at the costs of bomb shelters and all that's involved in just keeping water out and fresh air in.
>speaking of leftists on of my teenage hangouts was a commie bomb shelter we got after the fall and converted to "an art studio", got permits and all pretending to be an art NGO lol. Lots of mold killer paint went into itm
The real hell is the one we build for ourselves.
Enjoy radon gas.
he won't believe it because it's not visible to the naked eye.