A fricking $300 drone with an RPG warhead ziptied to it taking out a $1 million dollar BMP is some hilarious shit. Still can't beat the economics of VOG-17's cooking off tanks via 3 point dunks via the hatch.
I'm trying to imagine the carnage if one billion dollars worth of drone tech (of this type or similar, independent of whatever weapon is attached to them) was purchased & donated to Ukraine. Literally, my imagination fails.
It doesn't take it out as in "destroy it" afaik but makes it unusable for a while + costly repairs.
Combined with ATGM it can give great results.
The guys who made those explained how they use it, often putting a stop to coming offensives by making their tanks unusable right into ATGM damage zone, and preventing ATGM position from being detected.
More details in the screenshot posted there
https://i.imgur.com/eDMR5qd.jpg
The original link goes to a 404. Here’s a saved screenshot with some details.
>It doesn't take it out as in "destroy it" afaik
My homie a PG-7V hitting the side of a BMP will wreck it.
Unfortunately this hit 99% only took out the engine, had they aimed a bit to the rear they would have killed the commander/gunner and possibly ignited the ammo.
For sure but I assume they target stuff like T-72 and others, unless I'm mistaken. I can't imagine they can wreck so consistently tanks with a bit more armor, but damaging it enough to stop it sounds at least reasonable.
1 year ago
Anonymous
These can absolutely penetrate a T-72 from the side, the upper plate only has 80mm and that is the THICKEST section, Anon.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Alright then. I do know about the armor, but I took the words of the team behind those drones over my superficial knowledge
1 year ago
Anonymous
>I do know about the armor, but I took the words of the team behind those drones over my superficial knowledge >Not capable of eliminating >USUALLY not capable of eliminating it, but is capable of stopping it
So mobility kill
>A fricking $300 drone with an RPG warhead ziptied to it taking out a $1 million dollar BMP is some hilarious shit. >$300 >$300 >Lockheed Martin, AeroVironment and other MIC would be like
>, gimballed FLIR
to much weight. these things are the killers, leave hunting to something else. the final form of this weapon is probably a single forward facing thermal camera with a neural net for homing on targets, directed towards enemies by spotter drones high above the action
quadcopters that size usually can't lift anywhere near this much because you have a tradeoff between motor power and battery weight/capacity. more powerful motor = runs out of juice faster. look at how massive the motors they've put on these things are in OP's picture
I want to see if it actually works. RPG warheads are designed to be fired from an RPG and impact the target at very high speeds afaik. The warhead-on-a-drone does neither, so I wonder if it even went off
https://files.catbox.moe/tld917.MP4
>no aftermath
At least there were some explosions. I think they were from rockets though
Cutting to black at or just before the impact is trivial. Then again I could just be overly skeptical. I figured that the drone would barely be able to fly, but here we are
>At least there were some explosions. I think they were from rockets though
Even then it's kinda the point. neutralizing the tanks and stuff then allow a much easier and safer strike from other sources like ATGMs.
no, it's much harder to hit moving targets that way and requires more battery power while you hover over the target and line up the shot for a long time. these things are hyper optimized for a very short flight, max power motors with minimum battery mass
Pretty sure you put the tip on to arm the unit so they likely screw it on when it's ready for flight
this
In action.
boop
also I can't believe i never noticed that's what was in this video before. I swear I've seen some where the drone flies away successfully but maybe I am misremembering. Neat.
>I swear I've seen some where the drone flies away successfully but maybe I am misremembering.
There were drones that drop payload but those quadrocopters are suicide drones
There are creative solutions to that. For example, have one or two drone operators fly one or several long-endurance drones with hi-def cameras and hi-tech anti-jamming, hi-speed communications. Locate targets, let's call them "spotter" drones. Then half a dozen or one drone operator sends in however many racing drones are required so they just beeline at high speed straight at the identified targets. Let's call them "killbots." Five minutes should be Güd Enuff™ for about 90% or more situations, but ten minutes of flight capability could bump that into the 99.5% range.
The investment (and new arms race) here is to harden them to resist jamming technology so they always reach their target.
Now, what do we have that hits harder than an RPG-7, is about as cheap, and weighs about the same? Let's send a few hundred shipping containers filled with that shit over.
I'd skip the jamming/anti-jamming arms race and make the drones autonomous, cause it's not like Asimov's laws are actual law. If a smartphone can recognize how to put a filter on your face, it can recognize a target. If they struggle with telling appart enemy and civilian trucks, either suck it up or don't send them to an area you wouldn't carpet bomb.
That is one possible option. No need to limit yourself to specific conditions. Flexibility on the battlefield is the winning strategy here. Being able to send something in with extreme precision has enormous value. Sending random explosives to a location and 'making a boom' no matter who get slaughtered is vatBlack person-tier brane power. Might as well artillery spam a city for a week to maybe scare a sniper.
>I'd skip the jamming/anti-jamming arms race and make the drones autonomous,
Yeah and considering AI development started to make big leaps last year it becomes very interesting.
Their endurance is like 30 minutes WITHOUT carrying a RPG. Both sides use larger UAS to spot targets for loitering munitions before sending them out to attack.
IED shaped charges that use a copper billet basically liquify the copper and squirt it at high velocity to slice through whatever is in front of it. Based upon that principle, I wonder what a mercury-filled space could be used for. It doesn't have to be all of the available space (because, weight issues, etc.), but any small amount, like 50 grams or so, might add significant penetration just ahead of the explosive to tear a rift through armor and allow the following explosion to be more effective. Perhaps much more effective.
I'm not a fan of the mercury hazmat contamination that would create. But for specialty cases, it might be worth it.
Other substances with very low melting points or are nearly liquid at similar temperatures, osmium perhaps, might suffice. Or, fill with fine pellets, like a #9 or #12 lead/tungsten/uranium shot, or even finer near-dust, and it might behave enough like a liquid to achieve a similar effect. Depleted uranium or copper powder suspended in plastic, for example, might behave almost exactly like a high-density liquid at such pressures.
I'd love to work on that research project with a fat $5 or $20 billion dollar research contract. I'm certain it would pay off. Applied flying IED technology.
Inferior for several reasons. Mostly. Higher melting point and much lower density for starters. If you want something hard, you want tungsten. Copper is much denser and can be forced to behave like a fluid. Etc.
If you wanted something really cheap above other compromises, then you could use something like pig iron or soft steel. That's why a research project would be advisable. Different materials for different applications. Each material could be used in different forms (and alloys) to achieve different effects.
1 year ago
Anonymous
gold HEAT shells when?
1 year ago
Anonymous
what type of tungsten would you use? arnt there many kinds?
You should study the science of shaped charges before making grandiose schemes involving exotic metals in incomprehensible setups. It doesnt work like you think it do.
You are physically, visibly moronic, all that extra stuff in the space would just interrupt the formation of the copper jet. The air needs to be there specifically because of it's lack of density, and its compressibility, and homogeniety. Anything that isn't a gas is just going to cause the jet to be the wrong shape and not be a jet, on top of robbing forward momentum from the jet in the fashion of a newton's cradle.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>You are physically, visibly moronic, all that extra stuff in the space would just interrupt the formation of the copper jet.
Yeah he is moronic, I think we are dealing with an american zoomer here.
I'm trying to imagine the carnage if one billion dollars worth of drone tech (of this type or similar, independent of whatever weapon is attached to them) was purchased & donated to Ukraine. Literally, my imagination fails.
Ukraine is going to be the testing ground for the future of drone warfare. Shit like
In action.
is just mind blowing, the capability that a moderately skilled drone force can bring is mind blowing. Battlefield surveillance, guiding in artillery in real time, suicide drones, or just dropping grenades like it's a fricking arcade game. They're such a force multiplier, even for small units like that one with thermals that was telling some guys at night where to throw grenades and how many feet away the other guys were. Fricking crazy.
Seems like there's no real counter yet other than maybe jamming the wireless signal, which I don't think we've seen in action yet.
I need to see these taking off from 3rd person to believe they can. That's like 5x more payload/drone ratio than I've seen in this war. Well, unless those RPGs are very deceptively light.
Bout $130,000 per unit. But it is literally a fire and forget missile. You launch 10 at a tank column and one hits, the other 9 will recognise the hit and move to another target. In short, it will make sure all 10 hit a tank that hasn't been hit. Finally it will work out where the best point is to hit a tank.
This is the funniest looking thing I've seen in the entire war, just so straight forward and to the point. >Lancets >Switchblades >Phoenix Ghost >Shahed >RPG-7 rocket fricking ziptied to aliexpress quadricopter drone
At what point does war just not become worth it? With artillery at least you're sat there thinking "maybe, maybe not. Better have a smoke". With dozens of these things it just seems fricking pointless being there
They have also reverted to pre WW1 human waves tactics. Because riding in a vehicle to the front line is an eastly target for a drone. They drop them off miles from the front and tell them to march.
>Because riding in a vehicle to the front line is an eastly target for a drone. They drop them off miles from the front and tell them to march.
damn, they're getting smarter, we need to send Ukraine more weapons
This is like dial up modem in the 90s.
When a decade or two passes there wont be a single troop who will step foot on a battle field. Or risk instant death live streamed on Fakebook to please the starving masses.
"We dont have clean food or water but plenty of violence"
It was perfect just up to the moment where he missed flying the drone into the BMP with maybe a meter or so. It's honestly like missing a headshot in vidya.
>drive away as fast as possible from a flying RPG-7 drone that is gaining on you while your drunk as frick friends attempt to shoot it down
Sounds like a cool GTA mission.
Because there are a few fractions of a second of data still processing and being sent when the warhead goes off. If you look at videos of people shooting phones you'll never see the muzzle blast get recorded because of this, there is a small delay.
Short wave radio waves using to feed video need direct view between drone antenna and drone control staion. When drone comes close to teh ground objects and earth surface itself start block radio waves and signa disappears. this is also why ground drones are shit you cant have good range with them. Flying drones fly high and get good LOS to control station.
It baffles me why won't ukies develop a rocket pod with 4 rotors and a camera
pod weight - 90 lbs
rocket weight- 250 lbs
electronics and battery - 50 lbs or something
modern drones can easily carry upwards 500
Wasteful. Rockets cost money and aren't very accurate. Might as well just spend the same few hundred bucks on a thing that's nearly guaranteed to hit and kill whatever you launch it at.
Time and money. It's easy to buy a racing drone and ziptie an RPG warhead to it, it's easy to 3d print a dropping mechanism for VOGs and put it on a civi drone.
It's not easy to develop a huge custom drone that can deal with hypersonic rocket exhaust just so a huge heavy rocket motor can cover the last km.
It's much easier to take that M151 warhead and strap all 4kg of it to a suicide drone.
>It's not easy to develop a huge custom drone that can deal with hypersonic rocket exhaust just so a huge heavy rocket motor can cover the last km.
except both sides still use their expensive, multimillion dollar helis to do the same job: to lob these rockets BVR and gtfo
That's because the helicopers already exist, they have been paid for and produced decades ago.
No one is building a new attack chopper with unguided rockets as it's primary armament.
>but it could provide CAS without risking losing manned aircraft
You're underestimating the "not very accurate" part. You *can* bolt a rocket pod or maybe an RPG or two onto the bigger heavy lift drones, but there's no sights or fire control system. Your accuracy will be piss poor. A much smaller drone used as a flying bomb will both be much more accurate *and* cheaper. Keep in mind that most commercial type drones used for combat have pretty low life expectancy. Electronic warfare systems and MANPADS bump them off very well. The drones will almost certainly die after a few combat missions, so from an attritional perspective you might as well go for a kamikaze attack if it maximizes the chance of destroying a target (same attritional logic behind the OG Kamikaze funnily enough).
There's also the fact that a heavy lift commercial drone is probably better off being used for actual cargo hauling or supply runs.
>same attritional logic behind the OG Kamikaze funnily enough
Not really because they made really nice high quality fighters and used them for suicide attacks instead of the cheapest thing that could carry a warhead.
PS yes I know they made kamikaze planes but they were late war and rare.
Time and money. It's easy to buy a racing drone and ziptie an RPG warhead to it, it's easy to 3d print a dropping mechanism for VOGs and put it on a civi drone.
It's not easy to develop a huge custom drone that can deal with hypersonic rocket exhaust just so a huge heavy rocket motor can cover the last km.
It's much easier to take that M151 warhead and strap all 4kg of it to a suicide drone.
This seems fake, how are they launching them? If they just fly them into Russian tanks won't it just bounce off? I doubt those drones can go fast enough to get them to penetrate armor...
RPG-7 warheads have a metal cap over the fuse, this is the only safety and with it removed a dropped warhead will detonate.
Also speed has no effect on the penetration of shaped charges, you are letting everyone know you are a tourist.
There was a great video getting around from Syria of a guy that had removed the safety caps from his RPGs tripping over a gutter.
It doesn't take much to set them off with the cap removed.
>this is the only safety
Nope, they have inertia based arming. The fuse is inert until the G forces from the launch arm it.
I assume the Ukies bypass them manually and the Syria Black person had some khyber pass specials.
That IS the VP-7, Anon. >distant arming >arming distance: 15m
Thanks anon, I guess the guy did just have a khyber special.
1 year ago
Anonymous
He could have been really fricking unlucky and somehow dropped it with enough force to generate the Gs to arm the fuse, but it was probably just compromised due to shitty storage for decades.
When we were throwing old Soviet era grenades that were expiring, the fuses on them failed so often that the EOD guy literally had to drive back to base to get more demo charges.
https://i.imgur.com/Qgetw6S.png
Alright then. I do know about the armor, but I took the words of the team behind those drones over my superficial knowledge
What they mean is that the HEAT warhead isn't big enough to cause an ammo cookoff, like big tube launched ATGMs usually do.
The tank crew won't have a good time though, and if they're unlucky, there WILL be a cookoff, the propellant charges are literally sitting there in the open and the casing is made out of cardboard soaked with fricking TNT.
checked and so all of the times that someone is carrying the shit with the tip covered it is just to protect the mechanisms there, not to prevent detonation from contact with surfaces?
Only the earliest, most primitive fuse designs would actually go off when dropped, and even then you had to drop them really hard.
The absolute majority of fuses since early 20th century use SOME form of delayed arming, such as a mechanism relying on inertia from being fired (spring loaded firing pins, shearing wires) or some kind of a mechanism activated by centrifugal/centripetal forces.
I'm amazed people on /k/ are ignorant about this, but I probably shouldn't have been, considering how everyone reacted when vatniks were recorded handling artillery shells and AT mines like monkeys (which is bad form, but almost completely safe).
>carrying the shit with the tip covered it is just to protect the mechanisms there
Yep, if you accidentally crush the fuze early, it won't go off afterwards when you launch the RPG.
There was a great video getting around from Syria of a guy that had removed the safety caps from his RPGs tripping over a gutter.
It doesn't take much to set them off with the cap removed.
Video of a drone attack against a BMP-3. It looks like a fiery explosion but it’s still unclear what happens at the end and if it was destroyed or disabled.
In action.
Simple, yet effective
Wait. This is real? Jesus Christ.
A fricking $300 drone with an RPG warhead ziptied to it taking out a $1 million dollar BMP is some hilarious shit. Still can't beat the economics of VOG-17's cooking off tanks via 3 point dunks via the hatch.
It doesn't take it out as in "destroy it" afaik but makes it unusable for a while + costly repairs.
Combined with ATGM it can give great results.
The guys who made those explained how they use it, often putting a stop to coming offensives by making their tanks unusable right into ATGM damage zone, and preventing ATGM position from being detected.
More details in the screenshot posted there
>It doesn't take it out as in "destroy it" afaik
My homie a PG-7V hitting the side of a BMP will wreck it.
Unfortunately this hit 99% only took out the engine, had they aimed a bit to the rear they would have killed the commander/gunner and possibly ignited the ammo.
For sure but I assume they target stuff like T-72 and others, unless I'm mistaken. I can't imagine they can wreck so consistently tanks with a bit more armor, but damaging it enough to stop it sounds at least reasonable.
These can absolutely penetrate a T-72 from the side, the upper plate only has 80mm and that is the THICKEST section, Anon.
Alright then. I do know about the armor, but I took the words of the team behind those drones over my superficial knowledge
>I do know about the armor, but I took the words of the team behind those drones over my superficial knowledge
>Not capable of eliminating
>USUALLY not capable of eliminating it, but is capable of stopping it
So mobility kill
>A fricking $300 drone with an RPG warhead ziptied to it taking out a $1 million dollar BMP is some hilarious shit.
>$300
>$300
>Lockheed Martin, AeroVironment and other MIC would be like
Don't worry anon, I'm sure we'll get the unjammalbe AI piloted, gimballed FLIR, vehicle database compairing $200k version.
>, gimballed FLIR
to much weight. these things are the killers, leave hunting to something else. the final form of this weapon is probably a single forward facing thermal camera with a neural net for homing on targets, directed towards enemies by spotter drones high above the action
>BMP
>1 million dollars
Nothing is real.
>except dead vatnigs dying from terminal stupidity
Looks shooped
You have to go back.
didn't realize those quadcopters have that much lift for that payload.
quadcopters that size usually can't lift anywhere near this much because you have a tradeoff between motor power and battery weight/capacity. more powerful motor = runs out of juice faster. look at how massive the motors they've put on these things are in OP's picture
a. the motors are normal, not massive
b. the rpg warhead is mostly empty inside
c. this is fake
>the motors are normal, not massive
I have several drones with that width of frame and motors like half the size.
reminds me how I used to steer this thing from behind a hill to safely dunk tanks on their roofs.
sirs why you redeem ?
Damn it is all coming back to me! This is why all the drone footage is so strangely familiar!
Damn that map was a snipe fest.
the Front is calling you anon
thousands of diy suicide drones are waiting to be guided into ziggers with your hands
relive your past anon
fellow auraxian
phoenix users are Black folk
silence spandex boy
Lancer will always be the superior AT and AA weapon
It’s looks like a pov shot
POV porn shot*
>better than the shaheeds that Russia traded fricking fighter jets for
Holy frick that is badass. Crazy that such small drones can carry a payload that large and heavy.
Rpg-7 warheads are mostly hollow. They weigh a lot less than you might think.
I want to put my dick into the hollow part
me too, anon
Where’s the aftermath?
Is it good for more than propaganda?
I want to see if it actually works. RPG warheads are designed to be fired from an RPG and impact the target at very high speeds afaik. The warhead-on-a-drone does neither, so I wonder if it even went off
>no aftermath
At least there were some explosions. I think they were from rockets though
if it didn't explode image wouldn't dissaper so abruptly
Cutting to black at or just before the impact is trivial. Then again I could just be overly skeptical. I figured that the drone would barely be able to fly, but here we are
>At least there were some explosions. I think they were from rockets though
Even then it's kinda the point. neutralizing the tanks and stuff then allow a much easier and safer strike from other sources like ATGMs.
https://files.catbox.moe/tld917.MP4
Wouldn't it be better to use them to drop the rpg like a grenade instead of guiding it?
no, it's much harder to hit moving targets that way and requires more battery power while you hover over the target and line up the shot for a long time. these things are hyper optimized for a very short flight, max power motors with minimum battery mass
the weapon in the middle reminds me of doom
the future is now
mom, can we get JAVELIN
no, we have JAVELIN at home
>at home picrel
Why do they have no tip
Pretty sure you put the tip on to arm the unit so they likely screw it on when it's ready for flight
this
boop
also I can't believe i never noticed that's what was in this video before. I swear I've seen some where the drone flies away successfully but maybe I am misremembering. Neat.
Thank you OP, very cool.
>I swear I've seen some where the drone flies away successfully but maybe I am misremembering.
There were drones that drop payload but those quadrocopters are suicide drones
There are many options.
Sick
Reminds me of this quick scene from the last movie in the original Gundam trilogy.
Uhh, what happens if you drop them?
Nothing. Grenades are armed by their fins spinning. A grenade that doesn't drop from a high enough area will just do nothing.
Neat, okay, I figured it might have some sort of arming distance capability, either by spinning or some other measurement.
They remove the safeties on these, they're dumb impact triggers because nade drops can't arm like a grenade launcher or mortar.
>multiple tubes
hilarious
it's fricking insane that russia hasn't come up with an effective drone solution, they're truly beyond incompetent
>Why do they have no tip
Israeli contract overruns
They will
>Just the tip, I promise
Zelensky is israeli
israeli Nazi RPG-7million
Surprised that cheap racing drones are able to carry so much weight, these things cost like 200 euros
They can but the battery drains in a matter of <10 minutes
Those drones have massive thrust capability for high-g maneuvering. I'm sure they fly like pigs with a warhead strapped to them, but they will fly.
>but they will fly.
For like 2-4 minutes max. Worth it if they can take out a tank though.
How can such small drones lift so much? Their endurance must be like 5 minutes.
Depends on how excessive you build them.
There are creative solutions to that. For example, have one or two drone operators fly one or several long-endurance drones with hi-def cameras and hi-tech anti-jamming, hi-speed communications. Locate targets, let's call them "spotter" drones. Then half a dozen or one drone operator sends in however many racing drones are required so they just beeline at high speed straight at the identified targets. Let's call them "killbots." Five minutes should be Güd Enuff™ for about 90% or more situations, but ten minutes of flight capability could bump that into the 99.5% range.
The investment (and new arms race) here is to harden them to resist jamming technology so they always reach their target.
Now, what do we have that hits harder than an RPG-7, is about as cheap, and weighs about the same? Let's send a few hundred shipping containers filled with that shit over.
I'd skip the jamming/anti-jamming arms race and make the drones autonomous, cause it's not like Asimov's laws are actual law. If a smartphone can recognize how to put a filter on your face, it can recognize a target. If they struggle with telling appart enemy and civilian trucks, either suck it up or don't send them to an area you wouldn't carpet bomb.
That is one possible option. No need to limit yourself to specific conditions. Flexibility on the battlefield is the winning strategy here. Being able to send something in with extreme precision has enormous value. Sending random explosives to a location and 'making a boom' no matter who get slaughtered is vatBlack person-tier brane power. Might as well artillery spam a city for a week to maybe scare a sniper.
jamming/EW can and does spoof and defeat sensors such as cameras, IR, radars, etc.
>I'd skip the jamming/anti-jamming arms race and make the drones autonomous,
Yeah and considering AI development started to make big leaps last year it becomes very interesting.
and how is that autonomous drone going to navigate? with the gps that's being jammed?
Using paper map and compass.
C-4?
>Let's call them "killbots."
How about missiles. They're broke ass atgms.
Their endurance is like 30 minutes WITHOUT carrying a RPG. Both sides use larger UAS to spot targets for loitering munitions before sending them out to attack.
>How can such small drones lift so much?
shaped charges are mostly hollow
>mostly empty
good place to hide vodka??
and now i wonder what the effects of having a liquid add-on to a hollow charge would be
IED shaped charges that use a copper billet basically liquify the copper and squirt it at high velocity to slice through whatever is in front of it. Based upon that principle, I wonder what a mercury-filled space could be used for. It doesn't have to be all of the available space (because, weight issues, etc.), but any small amount, like 50 grams or so, might add significant penetration just ahead of the explosive to tear a rift through armor and allow the following explosion to be more effective. Perhaps much more effective.
I'm not a fan of the mercury hazmat contamination that would create. But for specialty cases, it might be worth it.
Other substances with very low melting points or are nearly liquid at similar temperatures, osmium perhaps, might suffice. Or, fill with fine pellets, like a #9 or #12 lead/tungsten/uranium shot, or even finer near-dust, and it might behave enough like a liquid to achieve a similar effect. Depleted uranium or copper powder suspended in plastic, for example, might behave almost exactly like a high-density liquid at such pressures.
I'd love to work on that research project with a fat $5 or $20 billion dollar research contract. I'm certain it would pay off. Applied flying IED technology.
Can't you also use mild steel?
Inferior for several reasons. Mostly. Higher melting point and much lower density for starters. If you want something hard, you want tungsten. Copper is much denser and can be forced to behave like a fluid. Etc.
If you wanted something really cheap above other compromises, then you could use something like pig iron or soft steel. That's why a research project would be advisable. Different materials for different applications. Each material could be used in different forms (and alloys) to achieve different effects.
gold HEAT shells when?
what type of tungsten would you use? arnt there many kinds?
carbide
:l
what hardness i mean
front from the first sentence on out. IEDs are mostly either HE detonated really close to target, or are EFPs.
your physics is spot on, except the use case almost never happens.
You should study the science of shaped charges before making grandiose schemes involving exotic metals in incomprehensible setups. It doesnt work like you think it do.
You are physically, visibly moronic, all that extra stuff in the space would just interrupt the formation of the copper jet. The air needs to be there specifically because of it's lack of density, and its compressibility, and homogeniety. Anything that isn't a gas is just going to cause the jet to be the wrong shape and not be a jet, on top of robbing forward momentum from the jet in the fashion of a newton's cradle.
>You are physically, visibly moronic, all that extra stuff in the space would just interrupt the formation of the copper jet.
Yeah he is moronic, I think we are dealing with an american zoomer here.
half the videos have low battery warnings
I'm trying to imagine the carnage if one billion dollars worth of drone tech (of this type or similar, independent of whatever weapon is attached to them) was purchased & donated to Ukraine. Literally, my imagination fails.
The conscript fears the exploding wasp. Now make them AI controlled and we'll really be in the shit as a species.
Ukraine is going to be the testing ground for the future of drone warfare. Shit like
is just mind blowing, the capability that a moderately skilled drone force can bring is mind blowing. Battlefield surveillance, guiding in artillery in real time, suicide drones, or just dropping grenades like it's a fricking arcade game. They're such a force multiplier, even for small units like that one with thermals that was telling some guys at night where to throw grenades and how many feet away the other guys were. Fricking crazy.
Seems like there's no real counter yet other than maybe jamming the wireless signal, which I don't think we've seen in action yet.
I need to see these taking off from 3rd person to believe they can. That's like 5x more payload/drone ratio than I've seen in this war. Well, unless those RPGs are very deceptively light.
They weigh 0.29-1.9kg. Apparently.
The original link goes to a 404. Here’s a saved screenshot with some details.
Are cheap drones from aliexpress the new meta?
i see you visit militarny as well
Imagine a swarm of 500 of these guided together targeting a column.
Brimstone already does that. Much easier to make sure it hits too.
Price tag?
Bout $130,000 per unit. But it is literally a fire and forget missile. You launch 10 at a tank column and one hits, the other 9 will recognise the hit and move to another target. In short, it will make sure all 10 hit a tank that hasn't been hit. Finally it will work out where the best point is to hit a tank.
RPG Drone is good against transports tho.
This is the funniest looking thing I've seen in the entire war, just so straight forward and to the point.
>Lancets
>Switchblades
>Phoenix Ghost
>Shahed
>RPG-7 rocket fricking ziptied to aliexpress quadricopter drone
These suicide drones really scare the shit out of me. Imagine them deployed in the thousands before an offensive. Nightmare fuel. I love it.
A auto shotgun with pellets works great
Imagine them used at airports, not just in Ukraine?
now thats brilliant! Cheap, effective, difficult to shoot down.
as others have already pointed out, how long until we see hundreds of these little guys operating in formation?
At what point does war just not become worth it? With artillery at least you're sat there thinking "maybe, maybe not. Better have a smoke". With dozens of these things it just seems fricking pointless being there
Countermeasures are being developed
Not in Russia.
Putin already came up with a solution, he ordered another army to be raised
They have also reverted to pre WW1 human waves tactics. Because riding in a vehicle to the front line is an eastly target for a drone. They drop them off miles from the front and tell them to march.
>eastly
Easy*
>Because riding in a vehicle to the front line is an eastly target for a drone. They drop them off miles from the front and tell them to march.
damn, they're getting smarter, we need to send Ukraine more weapons
That logic has been going on since we started bashing each other with rocks and:
Boy I can't wait until radical political groups (and glowBlack folk) start using these on American citizens.
oh my sweet summer child
They've already had this capability, but now we do too.
God i need the stl for that. Hopefully they're going to release it after the war
The "shell"?
Looks easy to make, probably already something similar on thingiverse.
This is like dial up modem in the 90s.
When a decade or two passes there wont be a single troop who will step foot on a battle field. Or risk instant death live streamed on Fakebook to please the starving masses.
"We dont have clean food or water but plenty of violence"
>RPG-7 drones
>no longer propelled by a rocket
>propelled by a drone
It's a frickin DPG-1 ya twatmonger, derived from an RPG-7
This is my favorite one so far
>DRIVE FASTER VANYA IT IS GAINING ON US
It was perfect just up to the moment where he missed flying the drone into the BMP with maybe a meter or so. It's honestly like missing a headshot in vidya.
Well, it still definitely hit either the back of the turret or the rear roof where the infantry was riding.
its ok, thats at least 2 and a BMP main gun that can no longer fire/turn.
>missed
bmp armor at the top is thin as frick, the vehicle is dead, he didn't miss shit
>When you use the blue shell in mario kart.
Oh god, it remind me that other drone bomb who DID get in the vehicle.
I wonder what the Russian have as propaganda to save face.
Yeah, they just had to get the Lada with the optional sunroof didn't they.
"must go faster, must go faster"
>drive away as fast as possible from a flying RPG-7 drone that is gaining on you while your drunk as frick friends attempt to shoot it down
Sounds like a cool GTA mission.
That gunner reacted fairly quickly given his initial direction
RIP vatnik
shit looks straight from a gta mission
Are these russkies?
https://twitter.com/SerDer_Daniels/status/1619041277257056256
Yes
Why does the feed cut before it hits the ground?
Because there are a few fractions of a second of data still processing and being sent when the warhead goes off. If you look at videos of people shooting phones you'll never see the muzzle blast get recorded because of this, there is a small delay.
Short wave radio waves using to feed video need direct view between drone antenna and drone control staion. When drone comes close to teh ground objects and earth surface itself start block radio waves and signa disappears. this is also why ground drones are shit you cant have good range with them. Flying drones fly high and get good LOS to control station.
Probably explodes in air for maximum fragment spray
It baffles me why won't ukies develop a rocket pod with 4 rotors and a camera
pod weight - 90 lbs
rocket weight- 250 lbs
electronics and battery - 50 lbs or something
modern drones can easily carry upwards 500
Wasteful. Rockets cost money and aren't very accurate. Might as well just spend the same few hundred bucks on a thing that's nearly guaranteed to hit and kill whatever you launch it at.
but it could provide CAS without risking losing manned aircraft
wow it's almost that role is outmoded by precision weapons which is why the drones are used that way
>It's not easy to develop a huge custom drone that can deal with hypersonic rocket exhaust just so a huge heavy rocket motor can cover the last km.
except both sides still use their expensive, multimillion dollar helis to do the same job: to lob these rockets BVR and gtfo
That's because the helicopers already exist, they have been paid for and produced decades ago.
No one is building a new attack chopper with unguided rockets as it's primary armament.
>but it could provide CAS without risking losing manned aircraft
You're underestimating the "not very accurate" part. You *can* bolt a rocket pod or maybe an RPG or two onto the bigger heavy lift drones, but there's no sights or fire control system. Your accuracy will be piss poor. A much smaller drone used as a flying bomb will both be much more accurate *and* cheaper. Keep in mind that most commercial type drones used for combat have pretty low life expectancy. Electronic warfare systems and MANPADS bump them off very well. The drones will almost certainly die after a few combat missions, so from an attritional perspective you might as well go for a kamikaze attack if it maximizes the chance of destroying a target (same attritional logic behind the OG Kamikaze funnily enough).
There's also the fact that a heavy lift commercial drone is probably better off being used for actual cargo hauling or supply runs.
>same attritional logic behind the OG Kamikaze funnily enough
Not really because they made really nice high quality fighters and used them for suicide attacks instead of the cheapest thing that could carry a warhead.
PS yes I know they made kamikaze planes but they were late war and rare.
Time and money. It's easy to buy a racing drone and ziptie an RPG warhead to it, it's easy to 3d print a dropping mechanism for VOGs and put it on a civi drone.
It's not easy to develop a huge custom drone that can deal with hypersonic rocket exhaust just so a huge heavy rocket motor can cover the last km.
It's much easier to take that M151 warhead and strap all 4kg of it to a suicide drone.
HOW ABOUT THEM ROCKET PODS
awesome
lemme control these remotely over the internet pls
use starlink or something
>Blocked by ancient Kontakt-1
This seems fake, how are they launching them? If they just fly them into Russian tanks won't it just bounce off? I doubt those drones can go fast enough to get them to penetrate armor...
RPG-7 warheads have a metal cap over the fuse, this is the only safety and with it removed a dropped warhead will detonate.
Also speed has no effect on the penetration of shaped charges, you are letting everyone know you are a tourist.
>this is the only safety
Nope, they have inertia based arming. The fuse is inert until the G forces from the launch arm it.
I assume the Ukies bypass them manually and the Syria Black person had some khyber pass specials.
>Accelerating a grenade makes it angry. We don't want to make it angry. By accident.
Words to live by.
What fuse is that? I could have sworn the VP-7 was just a basic piezoelectric fuse and self destruct was done by the sustainer motor burning thourgh.
https://kintex.bg/product-4-61
Thanks anon, I guess the guy did just have a khyber special.
He could have been really fricking unlucky and somehow dropped it with enough force to generate the Gs to arm the fuse, but it was probably just compromised due to shitty storage for decades.
When we were throwing old Soviet era grenades that were expiring, the fuses on them failed so often that the EOD guy literally had to drive back to base to get more demo charges.
What they mean is that the HEAT warhead isn't big enough to cause an ammo cookoff, like big tube launched ATGMs usually do.
The tank crew won't have a good time though, and if they're unlucky, there WILL be a cookoff, the propellant charges are literally sitting there in the open and the casing is made out of cardboard soaked with fricking TNT.
That IS the VP-7, Anon.
>distant arming
>arming distance: 15m
checked and so all of the times that someone is carrying the shit with the tip covered it is just to protect the mechanisms there, not to prevent detonation from contact with surfaces?
Only the earliest, most primitive fuse designs would actually go off when dropped, and even then you had to drop them really hard.
The absolute majority of fuses since early 20th century use SOME form of delayed arming, such as a mechanism relying on inertia from being fired (spring loaded firing pins, shearing wires) or some kind of a mechanism activated by centrifugal/centripetal forces.
I'm amazed people on /k/ are ignorant about this, but I probably shouldn't have been, considering how everyone reacted when vatniks were recorded handling artillery shells and AT mines like monkeys (which is bad form, but almost completely safe).
>carrying the shit with the tip covered it is just to protect the mechanisms there
Yep, if you accidentally crush the fuze early, it won't go off afterwards when you launch the RPG.
>HEAT
>go fast enough to get them to penetrate armor
Anon I...
Maybe he thinks that the fuze won’t reliably set off at that speed
There was a great video getting around from Syria of a guy that had removed the safety caps from his RPGs tripping over a gutter.
It doesn't take much to set them off with the cap removed.
dronebros, what's your callsign?
mine is TAHR BOOBA
BOOBA 2, standing by.
It says "Tanya + Vova = "
>ywn proclaim your love to a middle school crush through killing vatniks
*= heart
PGM on a budget
"Precision" Personal Guide Munition
PPGM
Precision Personal Guided Suicide non-Loitering Munition
DAB
drone-assisted bomb
what if you taped one of these to the bottom of a drone and flew it over infantry?
put it on a roomba
God damn what sort of tech wiz did the CIA send over there?
Video of a drone attack against a BMP-3. It looks like a fiery explosion but it’s still unclear what happens at the end and if it was destroyed or disabled.
can anyone identify what drone is used here?