>Ukraine wins on the battlefield. >Monke screeches and Russian fires some missiles at Ukranian cities in retaliation

>Ukraine wins on the battlefield
>Monke screeches and Russian fires some missiles at Ukranian cities in retaliation

Why does this keep happening and how long will it continue?

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    well he can't have that many missiles yet

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You would think a country with an abysmal ability to replace their weapons wouldn't piss them away on non-military targets. By the end of this they'll have 100% poorly trained conscript army where 25% of the guys are armed with museum pieces and the rest are expected to buy their own weapons. Their military vehichles will look like the ones the Kurds used against ISIS. Just imagine pic related paint green with Zs and red stars on it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >You would think a country with an abysmal ability to replace their weapons wouldn't piss them away on non-military targets
        The top commanders probably think they're being aimed at military targets because the lower command don't want to tell them that nothing works.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Ivan Conscriptovski calls in target in vauge 2km radius due to not knowing how the fuck to do it
          >Vadim Officerov can't set targets because fire control system was stolen many years ago, can eyeball with the cranks within 4km.
          >Due to Grigori Generalempkin selling all the good shells and replacement barrels to airsoft larpers, the actual hit area has a radius of 8km, somehow including the artillery position.

          >Conscriptovski mistook a city for a steel plant and reported his target as such to Officerov
          >Officerov heard steel plant and reported a stronghold to Generalempkin
          >Generalempkin heard stronghold and steel plant and thought to himself that it was the Führer bunker

          >Shell hits grade-school, killing none due to bad fuses

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Try 20km next time

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He's buying surplus from Iran and Norks, as well as outright stealing some of Lugabe's missiles.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Lugabe
        Is that a mocking name for Lukashenko?
        Other than being pseudo-dictators, I'm not sure they've much in common.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Is that a mocking name for Lukashenko?
          Yeah. I've also heard Lukasesku

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Lukasesku
            For Ceaușescu I assume?
            I like that one more because he was overthrown by the populace and executed.

            Mugabe, Tito...several of them died of the usual terminal conditions at advanced age. We don't want that for Luka.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Is that a mocking name for Lukashenko?
          Yeah. I've also heard Lukasesku

          >Lukasesku
          For Ceaușescu I assume?
          I like that one more because he was overthrown by the populace and executed.

          Mugabe, Tito...several of them died of the usual terminal conditions at advanced age. We don't want that for Luka.

          I was in China when Mugabe was overthrown and had lunch with a senior Chinese official in Zimbabwe who was a friend of a friend and in town for family stuff, it was interesting talking to him about the whole affair and how Mugabe's deputy visited Beijing directly before the coup.
          He wouldn't admit to very much about the coup itself but he acknowledged that Emmerson Mnangagwa had come to Beijing for approval for it (not his words) and agreed that it was basically the same thing as Diệm's generals asking the US for permission to assassinate him. He had much more to say about Mugabe's incompetence though, he'd been in Zimbabwe for years and seen a lot of it first hand.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >yet
      Are you German or Pennsylvania Dutch? Honestly asking. Just curious because those are the only people I’ve heard use that word like that (in place of “still”)

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It’s not that uncommon a usage, I think.
        >snow, snow, and yet more snow

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    because monke doesn't understand that terror tactics don't work that well in your average war.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Putin (and in all likelihood any potential successor) believes that you can bomb a populace into compliance, and it will continue until Russia is out of missiles.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Does Putin know about the Blitz or Dresden or Firebombing Tokyo? Or that even with nooks it took the invasion of Manchuria to get Japan to recognise it was over?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        he was such a bad glowmoron they gave him a desk job in east germany. And when he went back to Rodina Puccia, he took a washing machine with him. Some things never change.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I mean blowing up rail, ports, depots and factories does restrict production and resupply but the grand Monke isn't doing that.

        he was such a bad glowmoron they gave him a desk job in east germany. And when he went back to Rodina Puccia, he took a washing machine with him. Some things never change.

        He also was to dim to understand what was happening around him in Berlin and was calling for tanks. The concept of the majority of people not wanting to live in a dictatorship os alien to him.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The concept of the majority of people not wanting to live in a dictatorship os alien to him
          Not quite. He understands that people don't want it but he just feels entitled to ignore their wishes and impose the view of his faction/himself.

          I've had endless debates about freedom vs dictatorship and related topics with someone who drank Chinese koolaid and they compare the students in HK with naughty children who won't go to bed when their parents tell them to. Same with Taiwan.
          Of COURSE they have to do what they're told and need to be punished if they're disobedient.
          Children can't just decide not to obey the rules or do whatever they want, their father has to spank them when they get out of line to teach them to be obedient.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Confucianism was the biggest mistake of the last two and a half millennia.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Confucianism
              It has its moments, it inspired a meritocratic civil service and taught the value of education.
              It teaches ruling with a soft touch, guiding rather than forcing. Basically analogous to nudge theory.
              It also heavily encourages ruling by example, something that appears to have been overlooked by most Chinese emperors.
              A few other useful gems in there.
              If you look for inspiration and take the right lessons from it then it's of value. If you cherry pick from it and reinforce your base desires with scripture, then it's fucked up.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It teaches ruling with a soft touch
                Aah shit, sorry. I started off thinking about Confucianism but somehow got mixed up with Daoism by the second line.

                Confucianism does teach about education and meritocracy which is great but it places heavy emphasis on hierarchies which is problematic and arguably, the root of a lot of incompatibilities Chinese society has with modern life and a globalised world.
                All that emphasis on family patriarchies overlooks that people can just leave the family if they don't like it (and loads of Chinese make excuses not to go back and visit family at Spring Festival, especially if you're gay or anything else they'd disapprove of).
                Same goes for national loyalty, people leave China all the time to get away from that strict hierarchy and limitations on personal liberty. Most of the people I know who studied overseas spend years looking for ways to get back to the countries they studied in.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >people leave China all the time to get away from that strict hierarchy and limitations on personal liberty.
                Good thing China has been running illegal police stations in the West, to pester and terrorize expats even there.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                honestly at this point student glowies should be given assignments to lock down and wipe out these vermin.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Kek, wtf would chinks even do?
                >"Oopsie, ANOTHER group of urban youth exterminated an apartment of Chinese immigrants in a botched armed burglary. No, we couldn't catch them this time either. Guess anti-asian sentiment is on the rise I guess."

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                To begin with, they'd take steps to prevent students going to your country and then your university system would be on the verge of collapse.

                Chinese students keep many a western university afloat, they're addicted to the full-fee paying international students.

                Then they'd round up a bunch of ESL teachers in China and beat the shit out of them and tell your embassy: "Oops, your citizens started a fight in a nightclub while under the influence of drugs, the survivors are going to jail for assault and drugs once they get out of hospital"

                Don't go the low road with regimes that have no moral compass. There's better approaches.
                Really, just arrest them for being undocumented foreign agents, hold them for just long enough for China to make arrests of a few dozen of your innocent citizens studying or working in China then agree to a deal and deport them while China deports your citizens. Apologise to your citizens for them being arrested on trumped up charges and upgrade your travel advisory on China to include heightened chances of arbitrary detention.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Back in the 1990s, I knew a guy in the US who was at the Tiananmen Square protests. He told very few people about it and to those he did tell he gave few details. It was because he was afraid that Chinese agents in the US would kill his to silence him.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                One of my professors was in the square with the protestors, I think he was just there as a junior professor in Asian Studies though I wouldn't be too surprised if he'd been a spook as well.
                He said that secret police black-bagged him in the square and dragged him off to a cell where they knocked him around for a while and then deported him. He wasn't too troubled about it but he certainly didn't mince any words about the whole thing.

                He taught Anthropology specialising in Asia in general and China in particular.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                also, there were some good emperors, for what it was worth. Taizong of Tang, for instance.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, absolute power doesn't guarantee absolute corruption and exceptions happen, they're just pretty rare.
                Taizong wasn't born to power which helps.

                Baogong was basically an honest cop and his tomb is venerated 1000 years later. Which tells you something about how exceptional a good cop is in Chinese history.
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bao_Zheng

                I've always assumed that the worship of Baogong is at least partly a backhand criticism against the government of the day.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Bao Zheng was the most based judge of china. I consider him one of their greatest men.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I consider him one of their greatest men
                So, unironically, do most Chinese.
                There are Sherlock Holmes-style stories about him, he's a popular character, I visited his tomb which is maintained as a tourist site but also has a temple around it.

                Thanks anon. I've read the article and I'm still unsure, is this a delivery vehicle (aka return to base drone) or a suicide drone?

                >Thanks anon. I've read the article and I'm still unsure, is this a delivery vehicle (aka return to base drone) or a suicide drone?
                It says:
                >It has already taken off, it has already landed

                They also say "more than 200kg take-off weight" and "75kg warhead" so it sounds like an RTB drone bomber and not a lawnmower.

                FM 4-30

                >FM 4-30
                Cheers.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The godless chinks almost burned his remains during mao's revolution. He at least got a new tomb afterwards because some based man saved the remains from being desecrated by godless commies.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The godless chinks almost burned his remains during mao's revolution
                That was more a break-with-the-past thing.
                Mao wanted a fresh start by eradicating all tradition. Honestly I sympathise sometimes, there are some stupid traditions weighing down most societies.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What do you think of the lockdowns?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >What do you think of the lockdowns?
              Now or then?
              They're kind of different.

              I thought China's initial response was pretty based tbh, they were fully open after four to five months, some tests and vaccine records required for domestic travel but that's about it, they had the process down to a pretty smooth ride six months in, if you don't mind being tracked everywhere of course but hey, you're in China, better get used to totalitarianism.

              The current era of lockdowns are a bit more fucked up and they've been on and off for months. I believe they're lightening them now because things got a bit heavy-handed and generalised a few months back and everyone's about ready to lose their minds. There's been a few localised riots and breakouts, nothing really serious but people are starting to freak out so the central government is modulating their approach a bit and the lockdowns are becoming more targeted again.

              There's about to be a really big example made of some grifting entrepreneur who was faking test results or passing off shoddy tests as legit and caused a shitload of trouble including large numbers of false positives. It's not even the first time this has happened during the pandemic but there's a big gravy train associated with the pandemic procedures and lots of people see $$$ and don't think about how accountable they're going to be if they screw up or they're caught out cutting corners.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >it took the invasion of Manchuria to get Japan to recognise it was over
        disagree, it was the second bombing that did it since they thought we had a ton of those types of nukes (plutonium). In reality we did have a few, but Japan thought we had hundreds

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Eh, they were basically being made to order, the expectation was they could get 1 more complete bomb in August, two in September, and possibly three in October.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    pic related in OP is why Ukraine will never join the EU. the banana is too bendy.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Many bananas in E of U. No problemos.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what I'm curious about is at what point is Ukraine going to pissed enough to start lobbing something heavy and explosive over the boarder? At military targets, of course.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ukrainian defense concern said that they were planning to unleash long range heavy suicide drones of their own on Puccia's backlines by about the end of november.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        source?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          https://mil.in.ua/en/news/ukroboronprom-told-about-a-strike-drone-creation/
          sorry it took a bit to pull up the article

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Thanks anon. I've read the article and I'm still unsure, is this a delivery vehicle (aka return to base drone) or a suicide drone?

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's funny how they're so incompetent they probably don't even have intel anymore on where actual targets of military importance are located, so they waste Kh-101's on terror bombing.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They started this war and are continuing it with soviet era maps. This is what their intelligence capacity is at.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sounds familiar, in Grozny in 1995 troops had maps of the city from the 1940's, therefore were useless. Probably originally drawn for the Chechen Insurgency.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1940%E2%80%931944_insurgency_in_Chechnya

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        And Soviet-era maps were deliberately inaccurate
        https://www.nytimes.com/1988/09/03/world/soviet-aide-admits-maps-were-faked-for-50-years.html

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >It's funny how they're so incompetent they probably don't even have intel anymore on where actual targets of military importance are located
      The first wave of missile strikes struck a park in central Kyiv with that glass bridge which got shook up but survived with only a little glass panelling damaged (but not broken).
      About 50m from there, over a road, is a building that twenty years ago, was a barracks. It's believed that the missile was intended for that building (now some random office building or something) on the belief that it would still be housing troops but the missile is just so inaccurate that not only is it fired at a target that ceased to be relevant decades ago but it can't hit a great big office building either.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Reading up, Kh-101 has a 10-20m CEP, but these are Russian numbers. It has TV terminal guidance, maybe its "brain" locked on to the wrong square-looking thing (park instead of building). Then again the Tomahawk will just use GPS and DSMAC (image comparison with digitized images of the target based on fresh satellite imagery uploaded to the missile) for terminal guidance.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You didn't even mention weapons a single time, Ukraine chud
    >Welcome to PrepHole, PrepHole's weapons board. Our board centers around weapons, armor, and other myriad military technology. While guns are the primary topic, threads involving any other sort of weapons, from swords and knives to tanks and jet fighters, come up frequently as well.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Missiles aren't weapons

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I somehow missed that never mind

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        /pol/chuds got real quiet after this one dropped

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Your asspain is delicious

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      lol look at this gay

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Your asspain is delicious

        https://i.imgur.com/kSQ6rSe.png

        Go back to plebbit, anti gun gays. You don't belong here.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          what do you think you're accomplishing here shitting up threads?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Post guns, reddofag

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/AdTDZV8.jpg

            what do you think you're accomplishing here shitting up threads?

            SEETHING anti-gun npcs

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Go back to plebbit and count your likes, gay.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              nice personal description, now fuck off

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Like I said, single-digit

                Go back to plebbit and count your likes, gay.

                Mmmmm delicious :^)

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >anti gun

          kek not only a massive crybaby but also single-digit IQ to boot. Mein sides.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            See

            [...]
            SEETHING anti-gun npcs

            I'm ready to receive your delicious tears all day, gun grabbing loser

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Like I said, single-digit

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Uh, PrepHoleommandos, Milley just made the overture for ukies to accept the current status quo, which means it's over (assuming Russia accepts the US admission of failure, which they appear in no hurry to do).

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >proof: it was revealed to me in a dream

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nope, revealed in US Deep State's mouthpiece of record... the garden gnome York Times.

        It's over, kiddies. Back to World of Tanks with you.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >MSM is OK when it says things I like
          I will never understand this mindset.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Uh, you might want to review Milley's quotes, child.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Holy fuck is it last Sunday again? I'm so going to bet on sports

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    banana is shrinking

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    updated

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    since there are dozens of missile strikes every night, russia should have the capabilities to hinder or even halt the uki advances. but instead they are pissing them against apartment buildings. i just don't understand, it's like back when hitler decided it's better to bomb london instead of RAF airfields just out of spite.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >russia should have the capabilities to hinder or even halt the uki advances
      Should.
      In reality they lank the INT/HUMINT to actually hit anything on the front, or near the front. That shit moves around and is somewhat secret you see.

      But you know what doesn't move around and isn't hard to find? Apartment complexes and various civil infrastructure pieces.
      Russian chimpouts are as much a culture product as they are a symptom of a very incompetent military intelligence operation.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It is somewhat harder to hit a moving enemy than a powerplant or other infrastructure.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Russians could target stationary military objects like ammo dumps. It seems they lack high quality and up to date intelligence or Ukrainian dumps are too many and too small.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Only times they managed to hit even small storages were traitors pointing them out. Even after getting doritos they got like, two of them, one last month and one the month before that.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ukraine has adopted NATO doctrine, perhaps you should do some reading on how NATO does these things

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I don't (yet) know much beyond that Russians use push logistics and their ammo dumps are literal dumps. Going to look it up in more detail.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Ukraine has adopted NATO doctrine, perhaps you should do some reading on how NATO does these things
            What is NATO doctrine on ammo and fuel dumps? Small concealed sites?
            Mobile ones that never dismount trucks?

            What are the search terms we'd use to find reading material on this?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              FM 4-30

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >16- it is most paramount to store crew served munitions as close to the front as possible. Consolidation to a single point is preferable, and best to remain statically emplaced for ease of location
                Wtf? That's retarded.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                notice how Americans/NATO do this at the BDE level, whereas Russians IIRC consolidate at the echelon above division. Also we don't just leave ammo just out in the open easily observed.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >"WE'LL SHOW THEM! LAUNCH ANOTHER ROUND OF TERROR STRIKES!!!"
    How I imagine Russian top command every time they pull something like this. This whole missile strike feels like a seething chimpout, lashing out at your opponents civilians, because you humiliated yourself on the battlefield AGAIN!

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They were supposed to run out of missiles months ago!!! It's not fair guys!!!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They did, hence iranian missiles and drones

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        and the Iranians just cut their losses too, Monke stands alone

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      cope and seethe

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Even Harris ¨Bomb the hun til he runs out of guns¨Harris explained that bombing the civilians will not bring German citizen to revolt or demand surrender in 1943.

    Russia can not win even if they occupy all of Ukraine up to the Polish border. International sanctions would not drop. Trade and outside investments are not returning after pulling out. Ukrainians would become insurgents in a nation Russia can't occupy. Ukrainian is a nationality that the citizens believe in, unlike how no one in Afghani thought of themselves as an Afghani citizen but clan line.

    Putin has pissed away Russia's future, where if he'd done nothing he'd be closer to splintering NATO/EU.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Terror bombing was a failure in Japan too, and not even the atomic bomb forced stubborn japs to surrender, only the fear of soviet occupation.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        they were quaking after seeing some botched naval landings, the poor things.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the fact that they feared nuclear fire less than being invaded by russians says it all, kek.
          It's no wonder than McArthur had an easy time with them.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >the fact that they feared nuclear fire less than being invaded by russians says it all, kek.
            >It's no wonder than McArthur had an easy time with them.
            Berlin had already happened by then, they had good reason to prefer surrendering to the US.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Bullshit, while true the military didn't want an unconditional surrender they still believed they could barter peace with the americans through the soviet union. When that was an obvious nope, the emperor just said fuck it and thew in the towel.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It was a combination of both. The Japanese knew that they had no answer to the atomic bomb and their final cope was the idea that Russia would in any way be interested in mediating a negotiated surrender to the US. Russia's invasion of Manchuria which coincided with the second bomb dropping hammered home to the Emperor that Japan was well and truly out of options.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The fundamental difference between British strategic bombing and German strategic bombing is that the British saw civilians as merely collatoral in the objective of disrupting or destroying enemy war production, and the Germans saw the terror of the civilian populace as key to its political objectives.

      Likewise the Russian's seem to be believing the latter. Striking civilian infrastructure primarily hoping the Ukrainians will get scared and sue for peace (spoiler: no)

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Likewise the Russian's seem to be believing the latter. Striking civilian infrastructure primarily hoping the Ukrainians will get scared and sue for peace (spoiler: no)
        It's because Russia, like nearly all dictatorships, gets high on its own supply.

        They believe that they have the iron will to endure suffering but democracies are weak and will submit at the slightest discomfort to their zoomer couch-potato population, too used to masturbating over chud dragshows and doing legal drugs.
        They've been believing this since forever, the logic to the London blitz probably included whatever the German phrase is that covers jazz halls and flappers, convinced that a decadent non-trad culture couldn't possibly withstand the slightest pressure.

        It's a form of self-delusion.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Russians lack critical thinking skills so they will never realize that bombing a couple cities doesn't change their situation at the front.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >banana gets smaller every month

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Putin is trying to provoke the Ukrainians into responding with terror attacks against Russian civilian targets. He tried to sell the bridge bombing as such an attack.
    Putin is hoping to do something like what Stalin did after Barbarossa, to fully mobilize the people and resources of the entire nation. To do that he needs a credible existential threat to the Russian people themselves, not just to his regime.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Propaganda to make it look like they're accomplishing something
    To the average Russian, it would appear that strategic military victory and killing random civilians are one and the same

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Well Hohols demanded reparations, so it was only fair to get started with them right away HAHAHAHAHHAAA

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