Ukraine to acquire T-155 firtina from Turkey

https://www.armyrecognition.com/defense_news_april_2024_global_security_army_industry/turkiye_considers_supplying_t-155_firtina_self-propelled_howitzers_to_ukraine_with_us_support.html
>As the Turkish president's visit to the United States approaches, information has emerged that Ankara is seeking to supply weapons to Ukraine funded by the Pentagon. Kyiv hopes to receive 12 T-155 Firtina self-propelled artillery systems, equipped with 155mm howitzers, which are particularly suitable for the needs of the Ukrainian armed forces.

>The T-155 Firtina is a 155mm 52 caliber self-propelled howitzer developed by Turkey in collaboration with South Korean defense companies, based on the design of the K9 Thunder. Initially launched to fulfill the Turkish army's requirements, production commenced in 2002 following the completion of two prototypes in 2001. Under a license agreement with Samsung Techwin, the initial batch of T-155s was manufactured in South Korea, with subsequent production of over 300 units in Turkey. The program, totaling $1 billion in costs for the Turkish government, aimed to deliver 350 T-155 Firtina units, with over 150 units already supplied to the Turkish Army by December 2009. Additionally, Azerbaijan ordered 36 units, delivered by 2014.

So after 2 years of dragging feet by the krauts, the Ukies finally decided to take this matter seriously by reaching out to the best military powerhouse in Europe, Türkiye.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why did they name a country after this bird?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      because it's the only animal with enough test to grow an extra set of balls on its neck

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Turkey should trying to rebrand its English spelling. A country laying claim to an entire animal is honestly a power move. Imagine if there was a country out there which was called "Bear" or "Eagle", you bet the Republic of Llamas is going to be a hot holiday destination.

      https://i.imgur.com/3hLc1hw.png

      https://www.armyrecognition.com/defense_news_april_2024_global_security_army_industry/turkiye_considers_supplying_t-155_firtina_self-propelled_howitzers_to_ukraine_with_us_support.html
      >As the Turkish president's visit to the United States approaches, information has emerged that Ankara is seeking to supply weapons to Ukraine funded by the Pentagon. Kyiv hopes to receive 12 T-155 Firtina self-propelled artillery systems, equipped with 155mm howitzers, which are particularly suitable for the needs of the Ukrainian armed forces.

      >The T-155 Firtina is a 155mm 52 caliber self-propelled howitzer developed by Turkey in collaboration with South Korean defense companies, based on the design of the K9 Thunder. Initially launched to fulfill the Turkish army's requirements, production commenced in 2002 following the completion of two prototypes in 2001. Under a license agreement with Samsung Techwin, the initial batch of T-155s was manufactured in South Korea, with subsequent production of over 300 units in Turkey. The program, totaling $1 billion in costs for the Turkish government, aimed to deliver 350 T-155 Firtina units, with over 150 units already supplied to the Turkish Army by December 2009. Additionally, Azerbaijan ordered 36 units, delivered by 2014.

      So after 2 years of dragging feet by the krauts, the Ukies finally decided to take this matter seriously by reaching out to the best military powerhouse in Europe, Türkiye.

      If you're going to shill for Turkey, then go on. Sell us on the features of the T-155. You got footage of its cannon wrecking something? I want the marketing pitch.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Sell us on the features of the T-155.
        It's the same as K-9, which is an AS-90 Braveheart knock-off on its own.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/VGLvNGZ.jpeg

        Why did they name a country after this bird?

        Never understood why they never called it Turkia.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Turkey should trying to rebrand its English spelling
        they did, changing it to turkiye but we still call it turkey

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        they literally changed their country's name to some diacritic keyboard shit because it must be pretty embarrassing to have your country named after a fat, ugly chicken

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Are you sure it isn't the other way round?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The opposite is actually true! Here's the breakdown:
      Country:The name "Turkey" for the country originates from the medieval term for "land of the Turks." This name likely came from the Middle East, where the Ottoman Empire was a major power.
      Bird: The turkey, the bird, came from the Americas. Europeans encountering this new bird in the 16th century mistakenly thought it resembled a guinea fowl, already called a "turkey-wiener" because it came through Turkey. So, they named the American bird after the guinea fowl's nickname.
      In short, turkeys were named after a misconception that connected them to Turkey, the country, not the other way around.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Goddamn thats a fricking dumb story
        >Travel across the atlantic
        >to a new continent
        >encounter a bird
        >ah! I know this! Its the bird from the Ottoman Empire

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No
          >Hey, this looks like that bird from turkey
          >It just becomes shorthand for the bird because peasants aren't going to come up with a clever scientific name for a foreign bird

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Americans do this a lot, they named a deer "elk" because they didn't know what an elk was and just thought "Big horns, must be an elk" then when an actual elk showed up they go "the frick is that? idk what do the natives call it? Moose?"

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The prophet Muhammed died in a hunting accident when a turkey attacked unexpectedly from above. Because a turkey killed the messenger of God, Muslims view the turkey as the strongest animal alive. The Turks view themselves as strongest people on earth, so they named themselves after the strongest animal on earth.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It is because their eponym is "Büyük Tavuk Ülkesi" (land of large/big chicken)

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    great!

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hey man, could you not suck Bidens wiener? Yeah, thanks.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Have you ever tried just living your life and not thinking about sucking wiener?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Hard when flamboyant gays like you shit up the board

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          vatnigs can only see the world in sucking others wieners. sad but true they can not seem to get more the one or two posts in without talking about it.
          Makes it really easy to spot them tho.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That’s the baseline view of the vast majority of the world. Only a small core of white western civilizations view international relations as equal partnerships.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >So after 2 years of dragging feet by the krauts, the Ukies finally decided to take this matter seriously by reaching out to the best military powerhouse in Europe, Türkiye.

    weak bait. PzH 2000 is operating in Ukraine for 2 years already.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >weak bait.
      >RCH 155 still not delivered
      It's never gonna happen, Anon.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        the RCH 155s are on schedule. First will be delivered later this year, like it was announced from the beginning. Aren't you homosexuals ever getting tired of spreading fake news online?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          They get paid by the cent anon.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Soon™
          >no sign of factory being set up
          I mean it's amazing how krauts still failed to deliver a single vehicle after 2 years into the war.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >no sign of factory being set up
            It's being built in already existing factories, you absolute moron.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >best military powerhouse in Europe, Türkiye

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    russian were trying to convince me Turkey is a russian ally

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why is South Korea so good at making wepons?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The ROKs aren’t so good at making weapons so much as they are good at reading the market and producing shit people want at a reasonable price. See Hyundai.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >and 155mm ammo
    Is this like how when you buy a big bag of charcoal they just throw in a shit grill for free?

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I absolutely hate how turkey is playing both sides

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >turkey is playing both sides
      how are they playing russian side exactly?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Buying their gas, supplying them with 50% of their nitrocellulose

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          ? That's not real support.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's cheap petroleum. People would go the next town over if the pump station there sell their gas 10 cent cheaper

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >People would go the next town over if the pump station there sell their gas 10 cent cheaper
            If the pump station in the next town over was killing my relatives, I'd rig your car to blow up while you fill your tank there.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Have you forgot about all of the 'peace talks' they had together? The discussions about shipments and so on were not about letting Ukrainians export their grain. It was about Turkey getting a share.

        ? That's not real support.

        Providing Russia with the means to build arty shells they kill Ukrainians with is 'not real support'. Sure thing Mehmet.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          How many european countries still cooperating with Russia?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      no no boss just very good deal boss man you need good deal come and see me friend i make a very best price for you boss very quality best handmade merchandise boss man just tell me good price i make very good deal for you boss

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Before anyone asking why don't they just get the K9 instead of paying more for turkish K9, korea straight up said they wont sell shit directly to ukraine hence they're doing it the roundabout way

    That said they should've just get modernized M109 on the cheap because they don't need state of the art SPH, they need more SPH

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >they don't need state of the art SPH, they need more SPH
      they clearly do need advanced weapons
      what Ukraine is lacking most is ammo and personnel.
      better to have fewer more advanced systems with more ammo than more less advanced systems with less ammo each that gets their valuable soldiers killed.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Turkey needs to supply Ukraine with tanks too. They're more needed.

      >Before anyone asking why don't they just get the K9 instead of paying more for turkish K9, korea straight up said they wont sell shit directly to ukraine hence they're doing it the roundabout way

      That's dumb. Korea sell to Ukraine plz.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sorry, they can’t. They’re US super best friends of course — but actually participating in an international security program with the U.S. against US opponents, forget it. I don’t know what the actual situation is as to why they won’t seriously go against Russia or China (won’t even do FONOPS) but my guess is that’s just simple corruption — ie, the "relationship" with oligarch / CCP money is very important to them.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Korea won't export because they have a significant problem with SPH already, no reason to send SPH to other countries with more things to worry about.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    eh would be nice if Turkish MKE also delivers the mod 274 basebleed guided munition for T-155, which gives it a range beyond 40 kilometers

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Ukraine and Russia are brother nations

    No they are not.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    > Ukraine and Russia are brother nations and former is only fake engineered as hostile towards Russia.
    In soviet block there was a joke:
    Question:Why russians are our brothers and not friends?
    Answer: Because you don't choose your family.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    without shells useless

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I get why Turkey was brought into NATO — it made good sense at the time — but today, what possible justification is there for maintaining their memebership?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Turkey hems in Russia on the South. Part of the containment strategy.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Jesus Christ anon, don't even joke about that. Turks are bastards but they're OUT bastards. Without NATO, they'd drift into an alliance with Russia, or Saudi Arabia, or central Asians, or something.

      Turkey is so insanely strategically valuable for controlling access to the black sea alone.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Turkey prevents the Black Sea fleet from getting reinforcements and there is nothing Russia can do about it legally or militarily.

      Every ship that goes glug glug glug in the Black Sea is gone and never coming back.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Better to keep giant buttholes like Turkey in your alliance, where they're simply annoying, than in the enemy alliance, where they could be dangerous.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He is probably one of these members with 10k active personnel and 3 tanks.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Most of the NATO members are shit-tier. I would rather kick out the parasitic freeloaders than Turkey. Turkey can defend itself atleast and doesn't expect us fighting their wars.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >but today, what possible justification is there for maintaining their memebership?
      It's more cost effective to have them as allies than enemies.

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >it's the worst that the Republicans can do
    >It's literally just 8 idiots
    >losing Andkivka is entirely theri fault
    >They've proven they have the support.
    Europeans have the absolute worst takes. They know nothing and yet have such strong opinions.

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >pzh mentioned
    >asiatics and polacks go batshit

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      When was the last time we even saw Pzh in Ukraine?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you won't see them. PzH outranges every other SPG.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's the same fricking L52 155mm gun every other modern SPG uses. Differences in range only come from different ammo and the more range you squeeze the less explosive filler round gets.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why did you delete the post, Anon? https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/61505120/#61505870

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Bro, that wasn't me.

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why does the US have to buy them? Wouldn't both Turkey and Greece be screwed by a Russian victory?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Turkey and Greece are still at a cold-war. they won't just give up their weapons for secondary goals like a Russian defeat.

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >absolutely obsessed

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ukraine is losing seethe more lol

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        so true zister, is that why zigger officials have gotten louder about moooobilization these last couple days?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This. A town of 500 people is a great win for the brave mobik peacekeepers of the invasion force.

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I love how every while you have a foreign nation bragging and dickwaving about how they're giving a tiny number of surplus military gear, usually shitty AFV's, to Ukraine. Ukraine at this point is the testbed for most countries in the world. If they want to see how their gear fares in live tests or want to virtue signal they throw a bunch of surplus monkey model trash their way, but never something substantial or big enough to decide the conflict. the ultimate proof of all of this is the fact that it is announced beforehand. if the intention was to aid the Ukrainians they wouldn't make it public.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      A real conflict gives the best testing conditions. You'll never know your capabilities and limits until you fight for real. It's like boxing, sparring surely prepares you but a real fight is something different.

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    RCH155 bros?
    https://armyrecognition.com/defense_news_november_2023_global_security_army_industry/ukraine_to_receive_first_fleet_of_german_rch_155_wheeled_howitzers_in_2024.html

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      CEO of KMW said they will start delivering in the last quarter of 2024 until 2026. They'll also get an additional 18 from the German government on top of the 18 Ukraine already ordered

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >CEO of KMW said they will start delivering in the last quarter of 2024 until 2026.
        Wait until it gets delayed in the coming years. Just 2 more years...

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >75,000 rounds
    lol, russians fire this in a week
    sure love my money going to grift and lost causes

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      None of the people saying this have taxable income.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >my money
      All 50 000 rubles?

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    SO JUST TWO MORE WEEKS UNTIL TOTAL RUSSIAN COLAPSE, BUT THIS TIME FOR REAL!!!!!!!

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Now Russians are bragging about not totally collapsing in two weeks.

      How many weeks since Kyiv has fallen again Comrade?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Where's this one from? I saw the one who was on his back yesterday, but don't remember this one.

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