All of them have 4 ER PPCs, 1 LRM5, 2 AMS and 1 flamer, and engine upgrades, how would this affect the battlelines? Would the russian minefields be capable to stop them? Would they just flank the battlelines across the Black Sea?
Ukraine suddenly has access to 10 lances of King Crabs
total russian defeat, also bump
I wonder if by this point large weapons are necesary to break apart russian forces, PPC is just overkill against T54s, golf carts and mobiks, just machine guns and the odd medium laser would be enough, although I agree with the flamers for comedic factor.
You will still need "long range weapons" due lore issues.
I don't think minefields would really do much, the mechwarriors will just blast the terrain with the PPCs and whatever is left won't do really much, even 20th century NATO vehicles are sturdy enough to ensure their crews survival, ferrofibrous armor and harjel would nulify any damage done by conventional weapons and there is a chance the AMS may be capable to intercept a current age tactical nuke.
>shooting out minefields with PPC's
no I think Flamer would be the better tool for this.
You can swing back and forth for a wash of plasma heat, clearing a wide lane and barely taking your finger off the trigger. PPC probably has a near-field "splash" effect but nowhere near as wide as a Flamer.
So, maybe just some firestarters would do the trick?
>He doesn't know
>mobile fusion reactors with integrated air defence
put one in each major city and enjoy an invincible power grid
You could even use them as mobile anti-air systems, also it would be funny to see golf carts set on fire.
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You're not wrong, but OP seems a bit more literate than whichever autist keeps spamming the mech (slide) threads.
Do you understand mechs can traverse the deep of the Black Sea and then appear at any point in its littoral , right?
Do you understand that drunken slavic pig people will be operating them?
Nah, read the OP again. They won't be operated by Russians aka the only drunken slavic pig people in this conflict. Deal with it, subhuman drunken slavic pig pidor. Also, do mankind a favour and exterminate your family and then yourself.
What BV is Russia building to, and what tech level or era are we using? Total War or mech only? Or are we using Alpha Strike?
I guess the decade before the Clan Invasion, mechs only, to be frank I have been mostly playing the vgs as I already had my hands full with 40k for years but of late I have been getting some mechs, mostly just for the joy of painting them, I will try to see if I can convince some of my friends to test a game once I get more mechs painted, so far I have finished 4 and have 18 more including a few clan mechs.
Total overkill, BT tech is far advanced enough that they can run rampage with impunity. Personally I always like light mechs like the Konito, pic related, with heavy use of energy weaponry.
>I will try to see if I can convince some of my friends to test a game once I get more mechs painted
If you have trouble finding opportunities to play you could look into megamek to familiarize them with the game concepts. Downside is that the engine can take over a lot of the tedious aspects.
>Ukraine suddenly has access to 10 lances of King Crabs
no they don't. stop posting obvious propaganda like this.
how would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?
>King Crab
>Without dual A/C 20
What's the fricking point?
Complete overkill and pain to resupply.
Couple lances of locusts would be more useful tbh.
they aren't fighting cl*nners just the genetic dead ends that would b bio engineered into the cl*nners
4x RAC2 would be more fun.
Hard mode: how would Ukraine counter 25 Russian Catapults?
You just wait until they waste it all on civilian targets, then once the pilots inevitably want to go out to get drunk and rape you snipe them.
You mean 10 Ukrainian catapults dragged away by ICE Agri vees, 10 fusion reactor meltdowns caught in HD, 5 mechs with clearly missing legs or heads claimed to return under their own power and 4 urbanmechs with one shot LRM5s welded to their ears with Russians saying "da, catapult company in full readiness"?
1 urban mech with an AC 20
send 8 lances to Moscow and kill everyone
send 2 lances to St. pidorsburg and kill everyone.
Russians build a small creek that acts as an impenetrable defense. Battletrash robots have a density near balsa wood and would float away in water.
Why don't you give them non-shit mecha anon
Russian might finally have a use for all those Kh-22s they've been lobbing at cities
Yes, because all battletech tech is bullshit sci fi tech and handwave wank and quite LITERALLY 400 years in the future. No fricking shit moron russia can barely deal with like 12 abrams from the 90s.
King Crabs are actually 700 years in the future
All the basic shit for mechs is developed by 500 years. Even the very first mechs that are considered primitive later would destroy and of our vehicles and suffer very few losses. One small laser can instantly penetrate an abrams. Unironically the king crab would be MORE vulnerable than lights and mediums because they are slower and thus more susceptible to air strikes which is basically the only counter other than minefields. Give ukraine a star of ice ferret prime, star of hellions and star of kitfoxes and it could push through as deep as it wants into Russian territory
Just 40 locust may do with machine guns and upgraded engines for extra fun.
>Would the russian minefields be capable to stop them?
Serious reply, probably not.
Battletech armor and weaponry is autistic space magic; a modern MBT would have trouble penning it on an ideal hit; light rifles, which are statistically what your standard modern tank would be fielding, deal a big fat 0 to military grade armor in BT. If you were generous and said tanks like the Abrams had medium rifles (statistically speaking, I know they aren't rifled) then they deal slightly more damage than the lightest Battletech autocannons with a greatly reduced effective range.
Mines are a huge b***h in-setting and on the table but those are Battletech mines; modern anti vehicle mines themselves may not be adequate unless you set them up in elaborate piles or hooked them up to much larger payloads. Stuff intended for lighter APCs is going to bounce off them like pop rocks.
Your biggest problem is logistics and keeping them running if something breaks. 40 Crabs is a lot but unless they thunder run something vitally important you aren't replacing them and you aren't fixing them if one goes down. And they can probably still get got by the occasional bigass fricking missile if the Russians learn how to aim at moving targets.
Also an equivalent C-bill cost of thuds might be better.
god I love the offset wienerpit on the Tbolt and Summoner. It's like arms and a missile launcher bolted onto the front quarter of a Bradley
Why bother specifying King Crabs if you're going to entirely customize the chassis? It's not a King Crab a that point.
the big question is how much damage does a modern AT mine do to a battlemech?
if the answer is "very little" they can just walk through the minefields and commence total russian extermination.
if the answer is "same as to modern tanks" they wouldn't help much.
IMO if the King Crabs got through the minefields the Russians would probably rout. They'd probably think "oh shit, the americans quit screwing around".
For context ferrofibrous armor is invulnerable to modern MBT cannon rounds, battletech mechs are what places such as TV Tropes think modern military vehicles are. Their /Awesome page is the biggest circlejerk you will find online and one of the biggest sources for the wunderwaffen meme plaguing the internet.
Why the frick did you even bring up TVtropes?
From where do you think english speaking ziggers and knows-shit-about-weapons zoomies were getting their hype anon?
>4 ER PPCs
Why tho? That thing's gonna bake itself if it ever tries to alpha strike.
what on planet Earth currently exists that would need 4 PPC hits and has a proper noun that doesn't start with Mt. ?
Well, if you have correctly built your mech you can use them on secuencial fire with enough intervals to not to overheat, the range and EMP effect is quite a nice bonus, also since it's an energy weapon you won't run out of ammo any time soon.
It's like a shittier, IS Warhawk.
I'm just a filthy vidya player, but isn't that weapon loadout only around 34 tons and 13 hardpoints, excluding ammo? Plenty of room and weight for heatsinks as long as you're not shoving a giant engine in the thing.
A King Crab with some heatsinks won't have any problem firing PPCs at a sustained rate.
We're talking about alpha striking. Chainfiring would let you get off a dozen shots before heat became an issue.
Assuming 1 ton LRM ammo, 2 tons for the AMS and CASE for the side torsos, you can cram in 22 single heatsinks into this. The ER PPCs cause 60 heat between them.
If you go for IS double heatsinks, you can get 16-18 in and then you run out of room to put the bulky things into with like 6-8 tons of tonnage to spare.
>The ukraine
Nice try, subhuman pidor. Too bad for you that the only "pig people with shaved heads and gaping toothless jaws" are you and your fellow mobiks.
>mech
They are all going to get mobilty killed,fall over since they are designed by morons and become useless since nobody can repair them.And frick mechtards.
what's even the point of lrm5? smoke screens?
I guess for funny mobiks trying to hide behind some terrain and the odd atack plane.
Yes, but the AMS would be custom, of course you could also bring clan mechs to go full customized, but that's just even more overkill.
>gets hit with an air dropped bomb
>eats shit and dies
targets bigger than an MBT on the frontline are far too great concentrations of value to exist on the modern battlefield
>blows you out of the sky
Nothin' personnel, mayfly
But really, mechs can and do blow aircraft out of the sky pretty regularly. Vatniks can barely hit the correct building with a traditional bomb; something that shoots back is going to really sour their day. And there's still the problem of modern munitions having reduced effectiveness against armor in Battletech.
You'd see cruise missile spam at them, and if that didn't work, nukes.
>single big missiles
Mech mounted AMS is pretty good against shit like that. That's why your typical missile system is shitting out salvos of 5+, because the AMS net WILL get your shit. It just might not get all of it if you through enough.
Nukes would be national suicide and we know they don't work anyway.
Nuke back.
Not sure in the tabletop but in the vidya they barely scratch any decently armed mech, same goes with arty, and that is 500 years of extra MIC development, with current munitions it will be trying to blow up a merkava with firecrackers.
If you mean MW5, the only thing they throw at you there is VTOL which aren't really supposed to be direct mech-killers (at least not Warriors. The really nasty shit are the things like Yellow Jackets which are just a gauss rifle on a rotor).
Traditional aircraft and Aerospace Fighters can and will absolutely frick up a mech with bombs and shit. See the Mechbuster which is a bomb truck with an AC/20 in the nose, plus any number of other ASFs. But they're also working with Battletech weapons. I dunno how much a modern bomb would do and there's still the trick of the mechs being able to fire back pretty accurately, so air operations vs. mechs are not typically sure things.
Considering BT is a mech setting where major conflicts are fought with combined arms and conventional forces can match mechs, the solution is that the King Crabs would operate under existing AA cover.
Yeah but then you can't have a jump capable mech leap into the air and cut an unsuspecting flyboy in half with an 8m long katana.
I mean, I guess the KC can't do that anyway. But if we gave the dracs enough time they'd find a way.
There's the Hatchetman with a katana.
And the hatchetman has both JJs and the anti-air quirk.
>But if we gave the dracs enough time they'd find a way.
There is always enough time to honor the Dragon.
>Inner Sphere most advanced UI.
Just like the tanks, maintaining them would be the problem
>Ukraine suddenly has access to 10 lances of King Crabs
Nobody knows how to pilot them properly tho, so they all stumble or trip the first time they take a step...
Russia suddenly gets an imperator titan. What happens?
A mobik smokes in the wrong spot and the magazine goes kablooey.
... That may not actually disable it totally but someone will get a cool video of it.
Unless Putin wires himself into the command chair probably a Wagner march on Moscow 2.0, but this time goes through with it instead of them pussing out.
Probably this. I suspect any well armed russian force would rather turn their guns on Monke than eventually end on the receiving end of polonium tea.
They are orks so they immediately convert it to a Stompa, then have an ass raping contest to see who gets to crew it.
So, basically chaos cultists attempting to larp as orks.
t. clannerscum
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What do you think?
>the Russians are how Chaos gets its initial foothold on Earth
Of course they are.
I'm pretty sure I know which Imperator they get
>non-clan mechs
easy win for Russia