>controversial
but only when Ukraine uses them huh, it's fine for Russia
hang all journos, it's the only thing these shithole dictatorships got right
[...] >Get butt-blasted >post an unrelated dead person
Many such cases
>DPICM IN EFFECT
Livin the dream over there
https://i.imgur.com/F8F5xoR.jpg
[...]
This is what being online 24/7 looks like. Russia has one foot into being declared a third world country. Nobody in eastern Europe with 1/8th a brain wants to be a vassal state of a dying dumpster like Russia. Sorry to break it to you but average people want trade agreements and prosperity and careers, I know it's hard to imagine posting on pol from your grandma's attic all day.
>Sophisticated
The M26 rockets for himars are older than the M30/31s that were already being sent over. America has 200000 of these in storage which were all set to be decommissioned on taxpayer dollars. Now we get to get rid of them for free. This is just waste management.
This. They've already been paid for, and having to store, then inevitably dismantle them for scrap (at some point) is a drain on the budget. Sending them to go boom over mobik heads in Ukraine actually gains money for the US military, from an accounting perspective.
This is the truth. We're giving them old systems, which would otherwise have to disposed on the taxpayers dime. Not only do they get to live their best lives wiping out vatBlack folk, but we now can invest the money saved in newer systems.
Russia used cluster munitions across Ukrainian territory early in the war.
I guess they were just always intending to return it as a show of good will right?
The humanitarian impact of Ukrainians using mines and cluster munitions on their own soil will be immeasurable and still pale to what would happen if they become a Russian vassal state.
>1945 >USA still supplying the USSR with literal millions of tons of aid >Allies escalate to flattening Dresden >Developing more sophisticated and controversial weapons >Clearly, this means Germany is winning
Post Snake Island
Post 1st Guards Tank Army
Post 4th Guards Tank Division
Post 3rd Army Corps
Post Northern Front
Post Hostomel x3
Post Moskva
Post Odessa landings
Post zig zag trenches with grenade sumps and basic fortifications
Post intact ammo depots
Post PGMs
Post missiles that actually hit their targets
Post Russian soldier that hasn't had their butthole resized
Post negative HIV test
Post relatives over the age of 62
Post encrypted comms
Post unexpired rations
Post spare tires that don’t deflate
Post tourniquets with a windlass mechanism
Post optics
Post NVGs
Post an AA system that hasn't routinely gotten dunked on by drones
Post living VDV and Spetznatz with all limbs intact
Post sugar
Post bread
Post cheese
Post non defaulted currency
Post industry that can process raw goods
Post domestic semiconductor manufacturing
Post Nord Stream pipeline
Post Baltic Sea control
Post river crossings without double digit casualty rates
Post aircraft not routinely gibbed by MANPADs
Post sensor suites in a non potato resolution
Post a competent NCO corps
Post Kyiv
Post bridges and pontoons
Post control of the Black Sea
Post Russians being cool with returning to a pre-industrial agrarian economy
Post Finland and Sweden now being NATO members
Post how you feel about being dependent on North Korea and Iran because not even China wants your money more than they enjoy seeing more dead conscriptovich kino
Post how Russians feel about being viewed the world over as one tiny step better than North Korea
Post families receiving money for the death of their sons and fathers
Post literally any positive outcome Russian can expect to have even if they 'win'
Post Lyman
Post Izyum
Post Kharkiv
Post Kherson
This is what being online 24/7 looks like. Russia has one foot into being declared a third world country. Nobody in eastern Europe with 1/8th a brain wants to be a vassal state of a dying dumpster like Russia. Sorry to break it to you but average people want trade agreements and prosperity and careers, I know it's hard to imagine posting on pol from your grandma's attic all day.
As opposed to child prostitutes, HIV epidemic, alcoholism, "democracy", vapid consoomerism for top class - poverty for the rest, declining birthrate, destruction of traditional family, mass immigration, pseudo-fascism, oh and a shit ton of unexploded ordinance while being Russian colony?
Why are cluster munitions controversial? Do they tend to linger as unexploded ordnances after the war, is that it? If so, they cant possibly make any negative impact with the amount of mines Ukraine will already have to deal with
so its another construct of western politicians wanting even more. NGOs are the post-politics career programs for centre-left western politicians. Exact same as how the right and centre-right politicians just take the money, one is no better than the other.
>Why are cluster munitions controversial? Do they tend to linger as unexploded ordnances after the war, is that it?
Mainly that reason and because in the past they had greater failure rates, meaning alot of bomblets where left lying in the areas around Vietnam and other neighbouring nations. Which made some peaceniks sad and mad because USA bad and they tried to get cluster ammunition banned for good.
Though the 2+ % is pipedream that only happens in a most optimal conditions, In most conditions we are talking around 5 % failure rate atleast. Mind you russian shit have alot bigger failure rates to no ones suprise at all.
Black person, Ukies are defending themselves against so called superpower attacking them right across the border. They were supposed to fold in weeks maybe months and you are boasting about holding 20% of the territory which is shrinking day by day.
The internet is a funny old place. Out in the real world no one would even bother acknowledging these morons, they'd be treated like the crazy woman in the supermarket who shouts at the cheese. Yet here we spend hours and hours each day responding to their moronic twaddle.
The internet is a funny old place. Out in the real world no one would even bother acknowledging these morons, they'd be treated like the crazy woman in the supermarket who shouts at the cheese. Yet here we spend hours and hours each day responding to their moronic twaddle.
imagine if 20% of the US got invaded and while california, oregon, washington, utah, arizona, and idaho were controlled by the enemy, morons on a chinese cartoon forum were like "haha you dont have NVGs and unexpired tires also we're winning"
imagine if the us invaded mexico and got stuck a 100 miles from the border after several retreats and front collapses (and even that territory they're gradually losing)
It would the like the US invading mexico, then mexico receiving 3 times the US military budget in aid (3 trillion dollars) and that still not being enough to drive out the US
Invaded by who? You still don't get it, do you? US is a top dog. There's no country to mimic Ukr-Rus power level. In your example it would have to be Stargate aliens invading with flying pyramids and everything, taking over west coast only and being slowly pushed back after.
Downright humiliating.
Theoretically US law says they can't export munitions with above a 1% failure rate on bomblets, but Biden is saying newer batches have a 2.X% failure rate, he says that is good enough and he is overriding that law via some emergency power or other.
>override
Technically it's more of a bypass. He's using presidential aid authority to deliver the goods instead of a congressional bill.
how good are cluster munitions against bridges?
I would think they could be pretty useful for that purpose as they wouldn't easily overpenetrate, and actually damages a large section of the bridge rather than obliterating a smaller part
They're meaningless. It's basically a 40mm HEDP size grenade. Great vs BMPs, BTRs, self-propelled howitzers and infantry; mediocre vs tanks, not intended for use vs infrastructure.
>use weapons that will linger forever as UXOs ensuring future generations will be maimed and killed
LOL what 😀
This is a job for russian prisoners. Russian men in theirs 20s will clean it up and get their limbs blown off. If they survive the injury, they get a ticket to russia so the russian "state" can pay for their lives.
You really have to take into account that THIS IS NOT A WAR but a special operation by a russian terrorist faction in Moscow - the Geneva conventions do not apply here or afterwards.
>Following evidence and research based care guidelines >People allowed to express themselves >Equality >Democracy >Tremendous abundance of resources and consumer goods >Stabilizing population after baby boom >Move toward more sustainable and sensible living arrangements >The notion that people should damn well be allowed to be themselves so long as they aren't hurting others >Bunch of fun boomsticks
These are all good things you absolute moron. The entire 20th century was a fricking mistake.
that is a mentality of actual fascist and dark age thought. These morons think that if they were born in the 19th century they would be big-wigged elite having tons of children of any woman they have a boner on without resistance and profiting from the slavery of blacks and whatever ethnicities they don`t like, when in reality they would be dirteaters like most people at the time.
more like they'd be married at 18 with a house and six kids [two dead at age 1] like most people at the time.
modernity has been a disaster for the masses' sex lives.
lol, if you live in the US at the time, not europe. But yeah most people at the time had a lot of children but they mostly lived under the rule of ex-aristocrats as landowners. and the work they had to do if you didn`t own the land was misery.
lol, if you live in the US at the time, not europe. But yeah most people at the time had a lot of children but they mostly lived under the rule of ex-aristocrats as landowners. and the work they had to do if you didn`t own the land was misery.
eitherway, still the life of the dirteater most likely.
>child trannies
Russia has those too. There is no law against it. Only laws against content for children involving such content. >pride parades
Not having pride parades doesn't stop people being gay >Feminism
Is a thing in Russia, don't you remember Pussy Power or w/e they were called? >"democracy"
Russia claims to be democratic. >Vapid consoomerism
So that's why Russia copies everything that the West does, right down to making their own capeshit franchises in order to get Russians to CONSOOM their stuff? >Declining birthrates
Might wanna look at Russia's birth rate (and their abortion rate come to that) and then look at which countries Russia is now allowing to enter VISA free. Protip, they're not 'white' countries. >destruction of traditional family
Ah yes, traditional family, where you beat your wife, rape your kid on camera, sell it to buy more vodka then have a nice day. Based Russia >mass immigration
Again, see above. Russia is proud of being diverse ethnically and religiously (which is why 20% of the population is Muslim and why they have the largest mosque i n Europe) >Liberalism
Define this because I am not sure what you personally mean by it >UXO
Lots of places have UXO. Including Europe.
Fun fact, the US just now got rid of all its chemical weapons. Just now. Curious.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/nation/u-s-set-to-destroy-its-last-chemical-weapons-closing-a-deadly-chapter-dating-to-world-war-i
>escalate
Cluster munitions were already widely used in this conflict >"humanitarian volunteers"
Come on they are just peaceful tractor drivers and IT specialists that decided to repatriate to their motherland.
Really, I thought Russia was still occupying their territory. Also getting all your major cities bombed every other week. Is that what you call a winning kek? Great tweeter offensives though.
Alright, so I'm entirely uneducated on cluster munitions and what the big deal is. I'm guessing it's because a lot of them will only explode years after the fact when some poor frick stands on them, but how do you compare that to everything else that happens during/after a war?
>become western "vassal state" >liberty, prosperity, safety and suepriority to non-western aligned countries in every way relevant, oh and russian forced labourers clearing unexploded ordnance before being exiled back to their shithole country
FTFY.
>child trannies, feminism, "democracy", vapid consoomerism, declining birthrate, destruction of traditional family, mass immigration, a shit ton of unexploded ordinance
these literally and unironically apply to russia itself
The cluster munitions ban was always a meme. Any arms treaty not signed by the US, Russia or China is a worthless piece of toilet paper.
Not example like cluster munitions can make the situation any worse when the country is already covered in mines any way.
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a44465526/why-is-the-us-sending-ukraine-cluster-munitions/ >The remaining stock of 3 million DPICM rounds, however, has gone largely untapped due to the Pentagon’s reluctance to employ these weapons or transfer them abroad. The last extensive operational use by the U.S. military of cluster munitions occurred in Iraq in 2003.
Why does Russia's strategy of exhausting the west's artillery ammunition involve the west breaking out even more horrifying artillery ammunitions?
>2024 >ukraine is now starting to take over belgorod having cleared out the donbas >vatniks declare that they are winning because Ukraine has deployed a fleet of F35s and Abrams >They deploy a classified artillery launched occult munition >once activated, the munition causes a convergence event, compressing all human life within a large radius into several writhing cubes of flesh >vatniks claim victory
>Why does Russia's strategy of exhausting the west's artillery ammunition involve the west breaking out even more horrifying artillery ammunitions?
I don't know, but let's keep going and find out.
how good are cluster munitions against bridges?
I would think they could be pretty useful for that purpose as they wouldn't easily overpenetrate, and actually damages a large section of the bridge rather than obliterating a smaller part
Part of another billion $$$ aid package..
When is it ever going to be enough? We have spent over $113 billion and we are no closer to a resolution than when the conflict started! Fund US schools, hospitals, infrastructure, not more war.
look, i like weapons as much as anyone else on /k/, but i'm not sure what schools and hospitals would do with it if they're given DPICM from the stockpiles
Anon the whole reason the US only spends money on military is because Russia and China exists. Even if in the rare scenario Ukraine gives up, we have wrecked russia into the middle ages, defanged them, which in the eyes of the feds it is every penny worth spent because Russia has done nothing to the US but being a pest.
>Think of the starving inner city children that those DPICMs could have fed.
homosexual. Obongo wanted to decommission those at cost anyways. Money saved by having them rain on vatniks.
TZD
I'm dynamite
TZD
And I'll win a fight
both sides have been using cluster munition since always
it's only news because of general ignorance
It's also news because the US has a shitton of them in storage.
Ziggers will cry about this but then completely ignore how they cluster bombed Kharkiv for three months straight at the start of the war
they had Grad-ed Kharkiv far longer than 3 month
they only stopped in september when they were pushed out of the area. that's around 7 month
>nonintervention
calm your breasts, west has signed up to help Ukraine till the end
>Sophisticated
The M26 rockets for himars are older than the M30/31s that were already being sent over. America has 200000 of these in storage which were all set to be decommissioned on taxpayer dollars. Now we get to get rid of them for free. This is just waste management.
cluster boys with cluster toys bring me cluster joys
This. They've already been paid for, and having to store, then inevitably dismantle them for scrap (at some point) is a drain on the budget. Sending them to go boom over mobik heads in Ukraine actually gains money for the US military, from an accounting perspective.
This is the truth. We're giving them old systems, which would otherwise have to disposed on the taxpayers dime. Not only do they get to live their best lives wiping out vatBlack folk, but we now can invest the money saved in newer systems.
>don't boil the frog, motherchood
You will be boiled and you will like it.
Russia already mined the area to shit, it doesn’t matter at this point. TZD
>controversial
but only when Ukraine uses them huh, it's fine for Russia
hang all journos, it's the only thing these shithole dictatorships got right
ah yes, lets make life even worse for the average ukrainian
Russia has been using them far longer than Ukraine. Stop being a tard.
see
Who says they're going to use them in Ukraine?
who says they aren't?
>Get butt-blasted
>post an unrelated dead person
Many such cases
Russia used cluster munitions across Ukrainian territory early in the war.
I guess they were just always intending to return it as a show of good will right?
>DPICM IN EFFECT
Livin the dream over there
IN EFFECT
I fricking loved DPICM in M1 Tank Platoon II
The humanitarian impact of Ukrainians using mines and cluster munitions on their own soil will be immeasurable and still pale to what would happen if they become a Russian vassal state.
I do not care who wins.
I just like to see death.
>1945
>USA still supplying the USSR with literal millions of tons of aid
>Allies escalate to flattening Dresden
>Developing more sophisticated and controversial weapons
>Clearly, this means Germany is winning
Like you'd know what either look like - you can't see anything past the shit-fog steaming off the Gangees River
Post Snake Island
Post 1st Guards Tank Army
Post 4th Guards Tank Division
Post 3rd Army Corps
Post Northern Front
Post Hostomel x3
Post Moskva
Post Odessa landings
Post zig zag trenches with grenade sumps and basic fortifications
Post intact ammo depots
Post PGMs
Post missiles that actually hit their targets
Post Russian soldier that hasn't had their butthole resized
Post negative HIV test
Post relatives over the age of 62
Post encrypted comms
Post unexpired rations
Post spare tires that don’t deflate
Post tourniquets with a windlass mechanism
Post optics
Post NVGs
Post an AA system that hasn't routinely gotten dunked on by drones
Post living VDV and Spetznatz with all limbs intact
Post sugar
Post bread
Post cheese
Post non defaulted currency
Post industry that can process raw goods
Post domestic semiconductor manufacturing
Post Nord Stream pipeline
Post Baltic Sea control
Post river crossings without double digit casualty rates
Post aircraft not routinely gibbed by MANPADs
Post sensor suites in a non potato resolution
Post a competent NCO corps
Post Kyiv
Post bridges and pontoons
Post control of the Black Sea
Post Russians being cool with returning to a pre-industrial agrarian economy
Post Finland and Sweden now being NATO members
Post how you feel about being dependent on North Korea and Iran because not even China wants your money more than they enjoy seeing more dead conscriptovich kino
Post how Russians feel about being viewed the world over as one tiny step better than North Korea
Post families receiving money for the death of their sons and fathers
Post literally any positive outcome Russian can expect to have even if they 'win'
Post Lyman
Post Izyum
Post Kharkiv
Post Kherson
>declining birthrate
Russian birthrate aint too hot either
This is what being online 24/7 looks like. Russia has one foot into being declared a third world country. Nobody in eastern Europe with 1/8th a brain wants to be a vassal state of a dying dumpster like Russia. Sorry to break it to you but average people want trade agreements and prosperity and careers, I know it's hard to imagine posting on pol from your grandma's attic all day.
As opposed to child prostitutes, HIV epidemic, alcoholism, "democracy", vapid consoomerism for top class - poverty for the rest, declining birthrate, destruction of traditional family, mass immigration, pseudo-fascism, oh and a shit ton of unexploded ordinance while being Russian colony?
NNOOO DO NOT REDEEM NOO YOU ARE ENDING MY LIFE (LITERALLY)
Why are cluster munitions controversial? Do they tend to linger as unexploded ordnances after the war, is that it? If so, they cant possibly make any negative impact with the amount of mines Ukraine will already have to deal with
It gives NGOs another reason to beg for money,
so its another construct of western politicians wanting even more. NGOs are the post-politics career programs for centre-left western politicians. Exact same as how the right and centre-right politicians just take the money, one is no better than the other.
>Why are cluster munitions controversial? Do they tend to linger as unexploded ordnances after the war, is that it?
Mainly that reason and because in the past they had greater failure rates, meaning alot of bomblets where left lying in the areas around Vietnam and other neighbouring nations. Which made some peaceniks sad and mad because USA bad and they tried to get cluster ammunition banned for good.
Though the 2+ % is pipedream that only happens in a most optimal conditions, In most conditions we are talking around 5 % failure rate atleast. Mind you russian shit have alot bigger failure rates to no ones suprise at all.
Black person, Ukies are defending themselves against so called superpower attacking them right across the border. They were supposed to fold in weeks maybe months and you are boasting about holding 20% of the territory which is shrinking day by day.
The internet is a funny old place. Out in the real world no one would even bother acknowledging these morons, they'd be treated like the crazy woman in the supermarket who shouts at the cheese. Yet here we spend hours and hours each day responding to their moronic twaddle.
imagine if 20% of the US got invaded and while california, oregon, washington, utah, arizona, and idaho were controlled by the enemy, morons on a chinese cartoon forum were like "haha you dont have NVGs and unexpired tires also we're winning"
imagine if the us invaded mexico and got stuck a 100 miles from the border after several retreats and front collapses (and even that territory they're gradually losing)
It would the like the US invading mexico, then mexico receiving 3 times the US military budget in aid (3 trillion dollars) and that still not being enough to drive out the US
>cheese shouter waffle
Speak of the devil and he shall appear
Invaded by who? You still don't get it, do you? US is a top dog. There's no country to mimic Ukr-Rus power level. In your example it would have to be Stargate aliens invading with flying pyramids and everything, taking over west coast only and being slowly pushed back after.
Downright humiliating.
You sad dumbfrick, for your analogy to work, burgerland would net to be invaded by some country thats order of magnitude more powerful than USA.
What do they mean by legal limits on dud rates?
Theoretically US law says they can't export munitions with above a 1% failure rate on bomblets, but Biden is saying newer batches have a 2.X% failure rate, he says that is good enough and he is overriding that law via some emergency power or other.
>override
Technically it's more of a bypass. He's using presidential aid authority to deliver the goods instead of a congressional bill.
They're meaningless. It's basically a 40mm HEDP size grenade. Great vs BMPs, BTRs, self-propelled howitzers and infantry; mediocre vs tanks, not intended for use vs infrastructure.
>use weapons that will linger forever as UXOs ensuring future generations will be maimed and killed
LOL what 😀
This is a job for russian prisoners. Russian men in theirs 20s will clean it up and get their limbs blown off. If they survive the injury, they get a ticket to russia so the russian "state" can pay for their lives.
You really have to take into account that THIS IS NOT A WAR but a special operation by a russian terrorist faction in Moscow - the Geneva conventions do not apply here or afterwards.
Sir
SIR
Sir the designated shitting street is closing, please put away the phone and do the needful
>this land will always be Russia
>That's why we're filling the soil with explosives
....?
>russia has been using cluster munition the whole war
>ukraine now using them will bring us closer to ww3 somehow
Do cluster munitions work on minefields?
Demilitarization status?
Ukraine had more tanks in April 2022.
Ukraine needs masses of mine clearing equipment. While this is helpful, the ability to clear minefields is more important right now.
>Following evidence and research based care guidelines
>People allowed to express themselves
>Equality
>Democracy
>Tremendous abundance of resources and consumer goods
>Stabilizing population after baby boom
>Move toward more sustainable and sensible living arrangements
>The notion that people should damn well be allowed to be themselves so long as they aren't hurting others
>Bunch of fun boomsticks
These are all good things you absolute moron. The entire 20th century was a fricking mistake.
that is a mentality of actual fascist and dark age thought. These morons think that if they were born in the 19th century they would be big-wigged elite having tons of children of any woman they have a boner on without resistance and profiting from the slavery of blacks and whatever ethnicities they don`t like, when in reality they would be dirteaters like most people at the time.
more like they'd be married at 18 with a house and six kids [two dead at age 1] like most people at the time.
modernity has been a disaster for the masses' sex lives.
lol, if you live in the US at the time, not europe. But yeah most people at the time had a lot of children but they mostly lived under the rule of ex-aristocrats as landowners. and the work they had to do if you didn`t own the land was misery.
eitherway, still the life of the dirteater most likely.
>child trannies
Russia has those too. There is no law against it. Only laws against content for children involving such content.
>pride parades
Not having pride parades doesn't stop people being gay
>Feminism
Is a thing in Russia, don't you remember Pussy Power or w/e they were called?
>"democracy"
Russia claims to be democratic.
>Vapid consoomerism
So that's why Russia copies everything that the West does, right down to making their own capeshit franchises in order to get Russians to CONSOOM their stuff?
>Declining birthrates
Might wanna look at Russia's birth rate (and their abortion rate come to that) and then look at which countries Russia is now allowing to enter VISA free. Protip, they're not 'white' countries.
>destruction of traditional family
Ah yes, traditional family, where you beat your wife, rape your kid on camera, sell it to buy more vodka then have a nice day. Based Russia
>mass immigration
Again, see above. Russia is proud of being diverse ethnically and religiously (which is why 20% of the population is Muslim and why they have the largest mosque i n Europe)
>Liberalism
Define this because I am not sure what you personally mean by it
>UXO
Lots of places have UXO. Including Europe.
Ukrainian failed counteroffensive ended up with 17% of Ukrainian territory controlled by Russia.
>Defeated khohkhol troops continue their cowardly advance
16% of Ukraine has been liberated by the VDV
Don't feed the ESL
Fun fact, the US just now got rid of all its chemical weapons. Just now. Curious.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/nation/u-s-set-to-destroy-its-last-chemical-weapons-closing-a-deadly-chapter-dating-to-world-war-i
I wouldn't worry about it.
>escalate
Cluster munitions were already widely used in this conflict
>"humanitarian volunteers"
Come on they are just peaceful tractor drivers and IT specialists that decided to repatriate to their motherland.
>escalation
>whatabout
>another wunderwaffe
>NAFO
>troons
Npcsisters, are you ok?
Dumb question, I know, but can you use Cluster munitions to clear minefields? Is it effective?
Ukraine has been winning since April 2022, discordtroon.
Really, I thought Russia was still occupying their territory. Also getting all your major cities bombed every other week. Is that what you call a winning kek? Great tweeter offensives though.
>you're not beating us fast enough
I forgot they tried to invade from Transnistria. Romania should dispose of all the Russian trash there
Just tell the romanians there's a bunch of scrap metal in troonynistria
That map has gotten even less red since.
because armed insurrections are the surest sign of a successful special military operation, amirite
>w-we're winning
>points to one of the main indicators that russia is losing
vatBlack folk are moronic as always.
Alright, so I'm entirely uneducated on cluster munitions and what the big deal is. I'm guessing it's because a lot of them will only explode years after the fact when some poor frick stands on them, but how do you compare that to everything else that happens during/after a war?
It doesn’t matter so long as more Russians die. That land will have to be cleared anyways.
They have to clear miles of Russian AP mines anyways, it doesn’t matter.
Tough times ahead for the Russian trench rats.
It's okay. They'll just have Russian forced labourers clear the UXO.
>become western "vassal state"
>liberty, prosperity, safety and suepriority to non-western aligned countries in every way relevant, oh and russian forced labourers clearing unexploded ordnance before being exiled back to their shithole country
FTFY.
>child trannies, feminism, "democracy", vapid consoomerism, declining birthrate, destruction of traditional family, mass immigration, a shit ton of unexploded ordinance
these literally and unironically apply to russia itself
The cluster munitions ban was always a meme. Any arms treaty not signed by the US, Russia or China is a worthless piece of toilet paper.
Not example like cluster munitions can make the situation any worse when the country is already covered in mines any way.
Last time they were a Russian vassal state they got Chernobyl and Moscow mass importing Russians into their towns while they got scraps.
no green arrow so you look like that and say that. checkmate vlad
>he doesn't know what Russky Mir entails
read Oldfisher, Rajeesh, maybe you'll learn something about how Russia truly is
Man the shills really shit their pants every time the Ukies get a new weapon from the West.
>"Moral high ground"
>Euro-trash
Opinion rightfully disregarded.
>euro-trash
Like boris wasn't the first boots on the ground
Binken destroyed and humiliated ziggerstan with comments about cluster munition. How can they ever recover from that?
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a44465526/why-is-the-us-sending-ukraine-cluster-munitions/
>The remaining stock of 3 million DPICM rounds, however, has gone largely untapped due to the Pentagon’s reluctance to employ these weapons or transfer them abroad. The last extensive operational use by the U.S. military of cluster munitions occurred in Iraq in 2003.
Why does Russia's strategy of exhausting the west's artillery ammunition involve the west breaking out even more horrifying artillery ammunitions?
>2024
>ukraine is now starting to take over belgorod having cleared out the donbas
>vatniks declare that they are winning because Ukraine has deployed a fleet of F35s and Abrams
>They deploy a classified artillery launched occult munition
>once activated, the munition causes a convergence event, compressing all human life within a large radius into several writhing cubes of flesh
>vatniks claim victory
>It's triggering a Convergence event...
>but we never... expected... THIS MANY CUBES
>Why does Russia's strategy of exhausting the west's artillery ammunition involve the west breaking out even more horrifying artillery ammunitions?
I don't know, but let's keep going and find out.
Stop blueballing us, I wanna see a mushroom cloud over Moscow already!
how good are cluster munitions against bridges?
I would think they could be pretty useful for that purpose as they wouldn't easily overpenetrate, and actually damages a large section of the bridge rather than obliterating a smaller part
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
DO NOT REDEEM THAT
DO NOT REDEEM THAT
Part of another billion $$$ aid package..
When is it ever going to be enough? We have spent over $113 billion and we are no closer to a resolution than when the conflict started! Fund US schools, hospitals, infrastructure, not more war.
>We have spent over $113 billion
proofs, raskolnikov
look, i like weapons as much as anyone else on /k/, but i'm not sure what schools and hospitals would do with it if they're given DPICM from the stockpiles
Anon the whole reason the US only spends money on military is because Russia and China exists. Even if in the rare scenario Ukraine gives up, we have wrecked russia into the middle ages, defanged them, which in the eyes of the feds it is every penny worth spent because Russia has done nothing to the US but being a pest.
>Think of the starving inner city children that those DPICMs could have fed.
homosexual. Obongo wanted to decommission those at cost anyways. Money saved by having them rain on vatniks.
Yeah, because before the war our tax dollar were totally spent on important shit