I'm pretty sure the Russians at Bakhmut and Vuhledar could have used 10,000 cruise missiles but I guess making sure some anons in Kiev couldn't play Tarkov for 12 hours was more important.
I'm pretty sure the Russians at Bakhmut and Vuhledar could have used 10,000 cruise missiles but I guess making sure some anons in Kiev couldn't play Tarkov for 12 hours was more important.
That was merely a taste of what's to come! As we speak, quantum High-Hypersonic phase shift missiles will rain down on the banderite illegal regime. With our eyebrows raised, you will know. The bear does not take kindly to the clucking of chickens....
>*looks into an empty cruise missile storage and squeals nervously*
STOP using pigs to depict Russians. Pigs are cool dudes and don't deserve to be dragged into your dumb human war shit. They're friendly, loyal and pretty much mind their own business. There's literally no better friend to man than the humble porker. If you ;eave them alone all we'll do is snuffle about for truffles or something and bring them to you. They're good guys.
>t. pigger
lazerpig????
>dat captcha
They're more akin to a wild boar.
They are always hungry for land because the land they have has been destroyed by their own hand.
They come and take more land destroying it in their wake, which leads them to want more land.
The only incongruency with this is their birth rates are low, and after losing all these young men their country will never recover.
I thought the US would collapse before Russia did again, but I think Russia will beat them in that regard.
>They're more akin to a wild boar.
One generation out of civilization and they turn back into animals?
Bold of you to assume Russia ever achieved civilisation.
I think they were going to with Czar Nicholas II, but we know how that went.
they were never going to anon, because they'd still be russian at the end of the day. Russian reformers who get things done are dangerous because they just wind up making a stronger, more dangerous russia that will invariably default to the nature of russians.
The very core of their culture is incompatible with behaving like normal human beings in large numbers.
>I thought the US would collapse before Russia did again
ironically enough, thats what Russian propagandists also wanted you to think
You're not wrong, but let's not lie to ourselves. Once Russia is finally converted, it will still take a lot of work to sanitize and mend the scars they were actively causing in every society around them and beyond, and it will take wisdom and introspection and grace to ensure that there's actual healing instead of replicating the Russian mistakes.
USA really failed to bring about a better russia both in 1919 and 1991.
That cumshot birthmark guy wasn't entirely incorrect.
Collapse like East Berlin and resulting Soviet Union collapse, not really, but collapse as a society from troons, pedophiles, and communists from the inside? Yes.
no not really
Based
I love how he's like
>What a lovely day for taking in the view
>Oh shit, it's a human, better do some pig shit so he doesn't suspect
>Bugger the game is up
>"How do you do, sir, joy of the day to you."
>we’ll
Nice try Porkchop, but you’re still going to the abattoir
based and PrepHolepilled
if I had some land I'd have a pig instead dog
Pigs are habitat destroying monsters fit for food and football covers.
Shut up, Lazerpig
i want a pet pig
why would you bomb a theatre anyway
Nice one anon, if you did in-fact make this
Who the frick else could have made it, it's warm bread fresh.
Fair and righteous
>t.
Yeah I don't get it. Sure the missiles can't hit the broad side of a barn, but why not use them to carpet bomb enemy strongholds? Instead they were spent on not hitting kindergardens and hospitals...
Assuming they wanted to hit civilian structures is moronic. They willingly accepted it, but there's a lot of factors in play;
- shitty technology
- wrong intel
- ukrainians actually hiding in civilian infrastructure
- counter intelligence like placing gps reference devices at wrong places
- shot down rockets crashing down somewhere
You can't simultaneously assume that russia is 100% moronic/corrupt/incompetent while also managing to precisely hit every fricking kindergarden they for some reason wanted to bomb.
They missed most of the kindergartens they wanted to bomb
>You can't simultaneously assume that russia is 100% moronic/corrupt/incompetent
>...while also assuming they manage to do do what they planned to do
they failed at everything they've tried to do so far, fricking moronic Black person
You need to broaden your conception of 'they wanted'. You have the more western style of value driven meritocracy where, at least in principle, people driven towards a common goal prove their place in the hierarchy by the value they provide in pursuing that goal.
Youre dealing with russia, stuck in eastern commie bloc mode model of society. The common goal is whatever the proverbial head monke wants, and the value you add to society is only counted insofar as the chimp above you in the hierarchy is able to use the outcome to protect himself from the wrath of the monke above him. It even works some of the time, but the risk of failure present in any endevour leaves the poor underlings fearing for their lives. Better to just fake it and live the great collective lie, as you know that the men above and below you can also saved themselves using the lie and will only het themselves ousted by speaking up and taking responsibility for something.
They weren't 'wanting' to hit civilian infrastructure, theyd rather hit Ukie troops of course. That was just the easiest and best target to ensure enough of a practical result to spare the arses of the men involved from the retribution from higher up the chain.
I could see that happening, but shouldn't the house of cards eventually collapse? Particularly putin in combination with his secret service should have a reasonably qualified and decoupled means to double check military feedback.
It's not clear to me how something like this could play out undetected.
Very few people in Russia have a realistic incentive to expose the sham. Basically zero who hold actual power. It's easier to just pretend you don't notice it, even if you do (which most don't because they aren't looking)
The FSB does it too. They were supposed to have laid the pro Russian groundwork in Ukraine for the invasion, but like all the people pretending to maintain Russian hardware, they never expected that it would actually be used, so they just pretended to do their job and succeed at it. That's why Russia tried the blyatskrieg SMO, because they really did think that 2-4 weeks was a realistic estimate. Nobody has been interested in telling Putin about the absolute state of basically everything before the war started, and now that it ongoing, there's no way back, because the consequenced just get more and more severe. At the end of it all sits Putin, who whether fully understanding how bad things are going or not, has to pretend that it's cool to the Russian people, in the same way everyone below him have pretended.
Remember the Ukrainian brotherhood will join us posts.
>Particularly putin in combination with his secret service should have a reasonably qualified and decoupled means to double check military feedback.
They do, and the figures those systems produce are also incorrect for the same reason. At every single stage of recording these numbers, from unit commanders to the people presenting their reports to Putin himself, people are heavily incentivised to lie. Accurate figures practically can’t exist because in a highly authoritarian society like Russia telling the truth is dangerous while lying is rewarded, both directly and indirectly.
You can see an example of the effects this can cause in the early response to the pandemic in China. Officials at every level didn’t want to be seen as responsible for the effects of the virus so every report up the chain of command downplayed the seriousness of the situation. Beijing had absolutely no idea how bad things had gotten until it was too late so instead of being able to contain the virus it spread uncontrollably.
>Shouldn't the house of cards eventually collapse?
Yes, and it will given time. It has already happened twice to Russia in the last 40 years - once in 1989 when their outer empire in Eastern Europe collapsed, and again in 1991 when the Soviet Union itself fell apart. The Russian state is like a giant Ponzi scheme, eventually the lies it is built on will be so far disconnected from reality that the entire system will fall apart. Democratic societies have checks and balances which systematically try and prevent this from happening. Authoritarian states like Russia generally don’t or have very heavily decayed ones, so when the system is overstressed by something like a war going badly it’s often enough to collapse the whole thing.
Not much credit for this one, anon. But it really speaks to the difference in mentality between the east and the west. Not just a mode of governance, or an economic system, but the way you describe it - the american value system, vs the russian 'keep a low profile' system, really sheds light on the radical differences.
I've thought a bit more about Russian society since the start of this war, and we joke about conscriptovich selling off half his supplies because his commanding officer sold off HIS half, but when phrased like this it really shows how deep the rot may penetrate into their whole society.
>ukrainians actually hiding in civilian infrastructure
If a Black person raids my house, grabs my washing machine and gets shot, does that mean I am hiding in civilian i frastructure?
when a Black person raids your house because there's another Black person with an ak in there and they start shooting all your stuff trying to kill the eachother, the proper reaction should be to kneel and blow the second Black person, yes, because he's your homie, cracker.
imagine what would happen if your homie Black person just stayed inna woods. the first Black person would have to go inna woods too and would completely miss your house!
How moronic are you ?
How do you explain this then? What reason did they have for shooting at this? And then go and surround it with scaffolding and tarp so that the world can't see their moronation.
>if you write kids infront of a building you can’t hit it during a war because think of the hecking children
Never in history have people lied
>in the middle of a big city lets just bomb it anyway without even checking they cld be lying who even knows lmao
>UKRAINIANS LIED, PEOPLE DIDN"T TAKE SHELTER IN IT, IT WAS AMMO DEPO
>we've captured it? Quick, destroy what remains of the building
pro-Russians should be tried in court of law
>>we've captured it? Quick, destroy what remains of the building
You'd rather they just leave the whole city in ruins forever until the war is finished or something?
All I'm saying is that when the Ukranians take back Mauripol, they're gonna find so many skeletons buried underneath it they're gonna rename it to the Bone Zone.
>pro-Russians should be tried in court of law
I’m not pro russian. I really dislike them, just like I dislike the wave of reddit war tourists that gets their panties in a twist over literally anything and everything.
>they bombed a building during a war!!!
>can you imagine?!? A building was targeted!!!
You want to know a secret? People die in wars
I hate to tell you this, but bombing a location that is actively communicating to you that it is full of civilians on the off chance your enemy is committing perfidy is still a war crime.
only individuals can commit war crimes, when an insect hive does it its a force of nature
>What is the Yamashita standard?
homie there were pictures from inside before the airstrike showing that it was full of civilians. Vatniks know this because they zoomed in on the one guy in military fatigues in those pics to justify the killing of 600 people
We should bomb all red cross tents then. Who knows, maybe there is ammo in there.
Their TV talking heads openly admitted that goal of campaign was to inflict as much suffering on civilians to distort the government and cause the refugee crysis in EU to go even deeper. They are also openly and literally upset that it didnt work out.
"I dont want to upset you, friends but Kiev has electricity and water right now, street lights are back on" (c) Skabeeva.
>penly admitted that goal of campaign was to inflict as much suffering on civilians
It worked in Serbia.
In Ukraine it's different since US will just print money for wages and pensions and send to Zelensky and they can leech electricity and goods from EU, idk for how long tho.
Decades, easily
>Decades, easily
It's one wrong election results in US away...
> The MIC shills will cut military spending if they win. Because
Germany alone can foot the bill. Watch germany pay for polands shopping that turns into donations for ukraine.
>yes, I know we’re at war but what if somebody gets hurt?
Your parents really coddled you too much
>vatnik can't grasp the concept of non-combatants
man you'd fit right in along with the other moronic mobiks
Black person it’s an active war zone. No actor would give a shit about what’s written outside of a building. If there actually are kids there they should be moved. There’s no war in the west.
if you wage war like a Black person or thirdie, maybe.
daily reminder that Wagner systematically executes and genocides civilians, including kids, on the daily, and any surviving kids are abducted into sex slave camps
the russian snowBlack folk are just that, animals that need to be culled for their israeliness
You have no idea how much this is helping the US military. All that "Aid" is just throwing old gear to the Ukrainians and the money goes to the military for a New replacement.
It kills the wests enemies with no harm to the US costing them pretty much nothing.
>70bil in aid vs GDP of 23.2Trill is 0.00301%
That is what has Russia grinding away what was left of it army and respect as a nation. A fricking Rounding Error!
>how much this is helping
It's not, there's pretty nasty inflation in US which happens because Biden is printing and spending more than he is earning, big chunk of that sending to Ukraine as strategic "investment".
Did you know pensions and wages of state employees in Ukraine are entirely paid by US tax payers. Kinda crazy when you think about it.
Inflation is a global problem
>A big chunk of that
You're responding to a poster who has just clearly elucidated that it's 0.00301% of the US' GDP
You are not on /misc/ we actually read the full thread here. You need to do better or you will be fired from your shill position and probably die bleeding somewhere.
I know you're probably a brown thirdie and nobody, not even your family cares for your life, but you should stop shitting up the board for your own sake at the very least.
2004, 2008, and 2016 regiems all printed money bother to do some research before posting.
>Did you know pensions and wages of state employees in Ukraine are entirely paid by US tax payers. Kinda crazy when you think about it.
USAID has diverted funds to Ukraine and 4 billion of that has gone to pensions. This isn't unusual or unprecedented, and it isn't even coming from the war funds that MTG was b***hing about. Be careful believing everything you read, especially from w*men.
Fun fact: the US is actually making money by handing over these old vehicles because eliminates maintenance, storage and disposal costs while allowing them to refill units with newer (and thus much cheaper to store and maintain) replacements
>while allowing them to refill units with newer
So they basically take money from population and fill pockets of military contractor shareholders with it.
Only problem is that money doesn't really exist so you're taxed twice, once through the tax itself, 2nd time through inflation but what do I know, realistically I'm just butthurt because I'm poor.
MIC is hiring like mad. Go to any ship yard and learn to wield.
LMAO. No. Lend-Lease is enshrined into law. And overwhelming majorities in both parties are backing said law.
>election
Are you stupid? Who cares if a president is in charge? The one way for them to revoke laws is by going through congress and the Senate. Congress introduces the bill, the Senate reviews the bill.
admitted that goal of campaign was to inflict as much suffering on civilians
>It worked in Serbia.
That bullshit lie again, shill?
They didn't destroyed the power plants in Serbia, they just short circuited the power lines by dropping conductive wires onto them. Why do vatniks always lie?
What was the plan? Thought you were shilling and you slip an old lie in hoping no one would notice or tell?
What's the difference? Semantics? US bombed Iraqi power grid, bombed Serbian grid. The only reason it didn't bomb Afghanistani is that parts of the country that had electricity were the ones under US control while countryside was under Taliban.
Oh no, our vatnik serb friend attempts another pathetic "it's all the same if you actually don't look at it" apporach, it's not very effective.
There is a big difference if you try to destroy power plants with cruise missiles and if you drop conductive wires onto the power lines to short them. One can have negative effects for years and the other can be removed in a few days.
Go on, continue. Show everyone what a little disingenuous little shill you are.
There is none, because the intention was the same. I could understand your sentiment that maybe US was a little better than average (was of the same opinion) before Snowden leaks, but not in 20+23.
>buzzwords help me! you got to save me
There is a difference between interrupting the power supply by attempting to bomb the power plants directly and destroy them for years to come and to short circuit power lines with special bombs that drop conductive wires, that can be removed later.
This is the best vatniks can come up with? Lying, playing dumb to the most obvious differences and trying to drag in other side topics with cheap buzzwords? Fricking pathetic.
Please degrade yourself even further by continuing this way, vatnik shill.
>cum gurgling noises
Are you okay, brother? Read these someday. Of course you won't, because your fake outrage ends with your perceived victory in an internet argument.
https://www.wilsoncenter.org/publication/220-bombing-to-bring-peace
https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctt6wp7nf
>throws chaffs in form of links
>cant argue for shit
And why all this? Because vatniks are Black folk and cant tell the difference between someone attacking the power grid to terrorizing the population with little to no military use, even openly admitting they want to terrorize the population, and an actual military operation where taking out a power grid actually serves a direct military goal and it's part of military actions actually going on in this area.
>drop conductive wires
Are you for real kid?
>uhm here is picture
>no explanation or anything
>just take picture and i win
>okay?
no, you doubleBlack person
buzz off
sorry, did i offend you by telling everyone what kind of bullshit you are trying? no paycheck for you today
Are you?
>Russian politicians, lawmakers, and other commentators on Russian state media widely applauded the prospect of Ukrainian civilians being left without heat and water in winter. One member of parliament stated that ordinary people should “rot and freeze”, another said the strikes were necessary to destroy the Ukrainian state’s capacity to survive.
Source: https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/12/06/ukraine-russian-attacks-energy-grid-threaten-civilians
Well that's the point, to make general population suffer and start "regime change".
It worked in Serbia quite nicely, Ukraine is different story because of billions pumped into it every month.
If left alone without external help like Serbia Kiev govt would collapse in a month.
pic related, final act of HATO bombing of Serbia. Ruskies hope for the same thing.
No, it's not the same. Russia is literally getting called out for wasting resources on civilian targets to terrorize the population in Ukraine, while the other example was part of a tightly coordinated military operation with interlocking tactical strikes that actually were working together.
You are on /k/ here, not some random board, if you can't tell the difference, you are doing this either to hide something or stupid.
>tightly coordinated military operation with interlocking tactical strikes
like man, how can you write something like that down and not cringe, unless it's some kind of a weird bait.
pic unrelated.
you have to stop coping, Peskov already admitted that strikes are intended to make Ukrainian civilians suffer
>coping
I'm from Croatia, I don't care.
>Peskov
Never heard of him/it.
>Never heard of him/it.
You need to leave.
>Never heard of him/it.
Explains so much. Also how fricking new are you?
100% invasion tourist
>still triggered because he's got exposed for being a newbie on /k/
Damn, son.
nah I'm saying that the anon they were replying to is a invasion tourist
>I'm from Croatia, I don't care.
You wouldn't happen to be part of the 3.2% of Croatia's population who are ethnic Serbs, would you?
Unrelated my ass. russia totally expected 2 simultaneous outcomes
1) Ukrainians to rebel against the government bc no electricity and heating
2) Cripple AFU(russians forgot that armies don't run on civilian power plants, they run on diesel)
>like man, how can you write something like that down and not cringe, unless it's some kind of a weird bait.
ad hominem
>pic unrelated.
The picture is actually very related to the thread and shows how different the attacks are from both sides are. Russia wants to destroy the Ukraine's infrastructure they can't capture anymore and want to terrorize the population for no or low military gain and are open about it.
>Russia wants to destroy the Ukraine's infrastructure
Just a little correction, they want to destroy Kiev govt infrastructure, they don't have anything against Ukraine itself. Ukraine is like their little brother that has drug addiction problem at the moment.
Ah I guess that explains the beheadings, I do that to my brother all the time.
>beheadings
Those where not Ukrainians, that's why they got beheaded in the first place - not that I support such practices just want to clarify.
Cope.
It's not, I'm just stating facts.
Guy that got beheaded, not only was he not a citizen of Ukraine, he didn't speak a word of Ukrainian/Russian whatever. Who knows where that redditor was actually from.
Two morons that did beheading, they're so fricked, ruskies glowies are after them.
And the uniformally organized torture chambers by the russians Ukraine found in the recaptured territories, or the how they cut off genitals with box cutters and how they kill their own with sedge hammers on camera.
Is this the reason why they do it all over Ukraine, my little trolling friend?
Last I checked Kiev govt is actually not the govt of whole Ukraine, like especially the part that didn't want to live with them anymore.
Last time i checked, even promoting your region should leave Russia could get you up to five years in prison in Russia and they made the law a bit before they invaded Crimea. Strange
Oh and then there was Girkin one of the seperatist leaders who said that nothing would have happened if he didn't gone there and started to stir up shit. Do you know Girkin is a former russian intelligence officer? It's just one of many things that happens.
>Girkin
Never heard of him
I only know of Givi, Motorola and Prigozhin.
Oh yeah, Givi and Motorola got killed by the russians after they stopped being useful and not just wanted their regions to get Anschluss'd by Russia. They ran out of being useful for Russia, Russia killed them. This is what happens when you trust Russia.
Say what you will about Russia, but they know better than to trust anyone who'd betray their country for Russia.
They were idiots for thrusting Russia, doesn't make Russia any less an bad actor.
Motorola wasn't even a Donbassian. He literally came from Russia.
>never heard of Girkin / Strelkov
You should probably stay away from all Ukraine related topics for at least a year. Just lurk
>Has an opinion on the Russo-Ukrainian War.
>Doesn't know who Girkin is.
Yeah, the drug problem is ratfricking pro russian columnists. Literally, you can correlate AIDS and heroin abuse rates in Eastern European states to their Russian immigrant/directly descended population to a hilarious degree
>the other example was part of a tightly coordinated military operation with interlocking tactical strikes that actually were working together
One could also just say that they were working, period.
Russians are failing to achieve lasting result while targeting civilians on purpose.
USA succeeds in toppling regimes while trying (and sometimes failing, yes) to not hit civilians.
The war is truly over, the vatBlack folk found the piss jugs.
And now you suddenly trust some russian propaganda muppets? Get the frick out.
They say a lot of shit and all of it needs to be taken with a ton of salt, and while I believe they expect and don't care about civilian casualties, they certainly must have the capacity to optimize their attacks to provide the most effective way forward - in theory.
They're buttholes, possibly incestuous aids ridden alcoholic buttholes, but they certainly know the basics of warfare and pretending this is not the case is ridiculous.
There is incentive to exaggerate your capabilities- there's no advantage to admitting previous attacks didn't work without reflective analysis. Russians are incompetent drunks, and can't into anything but theft or rape.
>ukrainians actually hiding in civilian infrastructure
The Ukranians aren't Russians or engaging in urban operations in uncontested cities Vatnik.
>yes anon there was nazis hiding in the jungle gym
>oh no, not the children
You seem pretty well informed about what's happening on reddit. You instantly can find a picture that was posted there, for example.
They're static targets, it doesn't take much to find and hit them. Also you're incorrect, I always assume complete Russian ineptitude and they never disappoint.
>wrong intel
>counter intelligence like placing gps reference devices at wrong places
I've seen vatniks and vatnik supporters legitimately use this argument and every time I see this nonsense argument I can't help but wonder if Russians are dumb enought to think people will accept it or if they're dumb enought to believe it themselves.
The bulk of Ukraine's energy infrastructure was built under the USSR and by its very nature it's not exactly something that's going to get up and move around. You don't need GPS guidance or 'new intel' to hit the V.I. Lenin brown-coal powerplant outside Lviv or a major substation in Kramatorks when they're still in the exact same location they were in 1967 when the Russians were running the place. Basic intertial guidance systems should be able to easily hit them, even the very basic ones that Russia can build under the sanctions regime.
Russian technology is either worse than the inertial guidance in a German V2 rocket or they're deliberately hitting civilians. Or both.
Actually now I remember that time they shot a missile at Poland and I'm realising that "wrong intel" is a real thing, in the sense of it being a euphemism for "drunk mobik missile operator punched in the coordinates backwards"
>They can't figure out where giant transformers, power plants and hospitals are
Anon?
>ukrainians actually hiding in civilian infrastructure
Most civilians "hide" in cities 500km from the front
>You can't simultaneously assume that russia is 100% moronic/corrupt/incompetent while also managing to precisely hit every fricking kindergarden they for some reason wanted to bomb
Sure. Then it wouldn't be inaccurate to say that Russia's strongest core competency is in enacting its incompetence. In other words, in the pursuit of incompetent goals, Russia has been overwhelmingly successful.
This is the difference with the USA :
Sure, that tomahawk you just fired at a building to kill a single team of insurgents might be overkill.
But at least it's hitting its target, the target is an enemy combattant and you won't ever run out of missiles anyway.
Save for the missile spam, this fatass was actually a pretty decent general, the best Russia had so far during this war. His plan was to hunker down, recuperate strength and start preparing the defenses for a Ukrainian counter-offensive, and he also conducted the Kherson retreat very well. His reign was short-lived because Putin can't into war and he thought that Gerasimov's moronic offensives were the way to go because attacking is the only thing you can do in war, anything else is for pussies
>because attacking is the only thing you can do in war
Putin had ordered the capture of Donbass for certain points in time. That's the minimum he wanted. If he HAD all of Donbass in his control, Putin would have 100% been happy to have it turn defensive. But since he doesn't, he has to try and take it.
How much do those missiles cost per unit?
hey I remember General Diabetes. Has he fallen out of a window yet? I bet that'll leave a crater!
Remember when they were saying europe was gonna freeze this winter? lmfao
And it turned out to be an exceptionality cold winter for Russia
Don't worry, winter starts in about 6 months, anon.
I can't imagine the Muscovite psyche when God is literally on your enemy's side.
I swear near the start of this war there was some talk about how some woman (a saint or something) cursed Russia when she died.
I'm sure there are plenty of people that have cursed them after the shit they pulled as the USSR.
>USSR
If there is a God he sure as frick hates these frickers
Yeah and the worst part is dumbass Russians think they are the good guys of WW2. It's their identity and national fairytale, that's why they have those dumbass parades every year except this one since they ran out of tanks lmfao
>every year except this one
They have parades in main cities. They're not in some. Moscow is still going to do a parade.
Gotta keep the farce going then I guess. Hopefully some Ukie blows some shit up there.
>Moscow is still going to do a parade.
I can't wait
so this is the power of krokodil and bathtub vodka...
>Ukraine is exporting electricity again
I doubt it and it's really easy to check than on EU gridmap website. I'm not gonna waste my time with it because every time this was posted Ukraine was gigantic net importer. Why would they even bother generating electricity when they can just get it for free from EU?
>every time this was posted Ukraine was gigantic net importer
Do post the proofs
>why bother
because EU doesn't have enough to supply both civilians and industry+we have a frickton of nuclear power plants that russia will not strike no matter what unless they are already determined to use nukes
>Do post the proofs
Check it yourself, I don't feel like doing work for free.
https://transparency.entsoe.eu/
Doesn't work for me. 'Unknown exception'.
here comes the airplane tardie
https://interfax.com/newsroom/top-stories/87735/
>inb4 source: Moscow
https://gmk.center/en/news/ukraine-can-increase-electricity-imports-from-europe-without-daily-restrictions/
https://www.entsoe.eu/news/2023/02/16/further-increase-in-the-trade-capacity-with-the-ukraine-moldova-power-system/
>February
>Today is April 17th
What changed, one statement by energy minister? If that's all you have,
>may I see it?
I don't even doubt that it's theoretically possible, as Ukraine's internal consumption has a seasonal variation because a significant percentage of household heating is electric.
But even that wouldn't mean that all the infrastructure was restored.
Holes in the electric grid could possibly also be an explanation for export. If for instance one part of the grid simply can't reach the other and thus produces an excess, they could just export that.
>What changed
Nuclear power plants. Usually 0-2 reactors were used because they are expensive, and basically not needed, Ukraine can supply 1.5 Ukraines just on fossil generation. Oh, and russians don't dare to strike them
Significant percentage is electric, but it's negligible compared to centralised. However, since electricity was/is mostly generated on TЭЦ, heating+electricity plants, when heating is on, a lot of energy goes to hearing, and since boilers aren't infinitely powerful, much less steam is being generated to spin the turbines
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/ukraine-resumes-electricity-exports-europe-minister-2023-04-11/
because they're not Black folk like you anon
see
Oh frick, now i remember general winter, ooooohhhh!
At the rate Russia is advancing, there won't BE a Russian military soon enough, lol.
The Manlet of Muscovy's new elite forces en route to Bakhmut
Two more weeks just you wait, the secret Russian army is here
look at them, they're having a terrible day
they don't wanna be there
they just wanna play fortnite, not get sexually assaulted by their commander
poor bastards
nato purpusfolly bombed serbia too, how is this different
Remember the morning coffee nonsense? That was cringe.
Russia never targeted it in the first place. The rolling black outs were government enforced.
Which looks like justifying taking civilian electricity for the eu companies.
being a contrarian still means that your opinion is formed the exact same way as those leftycucks (in context of the status quo), good job moron, in your spiteful rage you decided to be just as thoughtless and irritating as the people you supposed to dispise.
Attacking Ukraine’s large power grid seemed like a poor use of assets to begin with, but maybe the Russians felt like they needed to show some kind of win instead of this constant slow creep forward over sone ruined town.
why is it called globohomosexual when it's not even global?
Post countries with drinkable tap water, oh wait you already did
But NA water is literal poison
🙂
huh
Good to see Afghanistan standing up for another countries sovereignty.
The Soviets killed 2 million Afghans within living memory.
>literally every single against/abstain vote is a complete shithole
Would we really miss much if the world was nothing but whites and japs?
Why is Brazil's so high when they ride with Based BRICS?
Imagine thinking third-worlders matter.
old data, it's even lower now.
not much to it, chinks just don't print money that is yet not earned like Biden does.
Dude the Yuans value is directly derived from the USD to increase exports.
yeah china's economy is booming
Meh, not really, only compared to the west.
although we can do without them, they can't do without us
you again
Here is a recent Russian view on Ukrainians.
>imageboard
How do I know that's not the equivalent of some giggling shitposter copy pasting TND?
They thought they could break Ukraine's will by making the place a shithole. Unfortunately for Russia, Ukrainians have already experienced Russian rule. They already know that even Russia intentionally damaging their territory with the aim of destroying it will be less destructive than the mundane corruption and incompetence of Russian rule itself.
lol this is so moronic I can't even follow it. I know you homosexuals all think (you)s are upvotes, so I'm only encouraging you, but take my (you) anyway.
benis
Black person the Serbs where genociding people living on what they claimed to be their land and thus their citizens.
I still can't believe this humpty dumpty moron wasted so many expensive, limited missiles on moronic shit.
Any Yooks in this thread? Are the blackouts still as bad as they used to be?
>commit genocide
>”stop or we will have to stop you”
>no
>*get bombed*
>NOOOOOOOOOOOO WHY WOULD THE EVIL WEST DO THIS WE GOOD BOIS WE DINDU NUFFIN
I wish Serbia would start shit again so we can bomb them again. I love it when the west finally puts their foot down and doesn’t give a shit about the hypocritical mewling of authoritarians when they finally suffer consequences.
this man fricking gets it.
as does this man.
Aren't the HolHols running out of SAM's?
>Lotuseaters
>literally named after literary figures living in a drug dream world
>the truth
wew lad
Let me guess, they think that the 7:1 figure is the real one?
They should have saved those to flatten strong points in Bakhmut, they might have the super fortress by now.
I'm pretty sure hohols dying in Avdeevka could have used those air defenses right now, but I guess making sure some thot in Kiev could use chatroulette was more important
here's your Avdiivka for you pidor, enjoy