Ukraine has already destroyed 20% of the Russian Black Sea Fleet, Bild reports.

Ukraine has already destroyed 20% of the Russian Black Sea Fleet, Bild reports.

In the spring of 2022, Russia had more than 70 ships, and their propaganda called it “invincible.”

Since then, a total of 13 ships have been destroyed on the open sea and in the docks, as well as the Black Sea Fleet headquarters building in Sevastopol.

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    But have you heard that a US Navy ship successfully shot down a drone incorrectly?
    Really puts things into perspective, maybe Russia is strong and west is weak after all.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >But have you heard that a US Navy ship successfully shot down a drone incorrectly?
      Is this some ESL shit that I'm too fluent in English to understand?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No, you read it right. Basically a drone made it past a ship's first line of defense only to be shot done by the second line. Turdies have been hyping this up as a massive victory

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          nah he's laughing with how the ziter where gloating about a american ship using it's close in defense system to defend against a houti attack

          How do you "successfully shoot down a drone incorrectly"? What does that even mean?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Are you a fricking moron or something?
            Just move on. What they're saying is 100% clear, you're just a fricking idiot.
            I'll give you one last chance, but if you still don't get it, just say "ok" and move on.
            US navy ships have multiple lines of defense from drones, there was a drone that made it past the first line but got intercepted by the second line of defense. Third world morons consider that a victory because they morons.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Are you saying that if you shoot the drone down, but not using your first line of defence, that's an "incorrect shootdown"?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                according to Russian shills, yes.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not saying that you stupid fricking Black person. The third world morons are implying it.

                Yeah, but that's why I was confused by it. You either shoot down the drone or you don't. There isn't a middle ground.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                English as a language revels in granularity and oxymoron. This is why autism is a disability.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You sweet summer child...

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Just for the sake contrast, here's the same guy talking about the Russian Black Sea Fleet after it lost a frigate
                Russian shills should all be case studies

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not saying that you stupid fricking Black person. The third world morons are implying it.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                [...]
                Yeah, but that's why I was confused by it. You either shoot down the drone or you don't. There isn't a middle ground.

                Neither I nor the other replies are making that argument; it’s the Anti-U.S.-at-all-costs contingent that’s trying to spin this as some sign of vulnerability. You see, Anon, there’s this double-standard the “America Bad” types apply:
                >the U.S. military damages an F-35 during training
                “OMG Western wonderwaffle WRECKED and exposed as overpriced junk!!! Is this the end of the hated Amerikkkan hegemony???!!!!”
                >multiple Russian pilots of the VVS, during a full-scale war, are caught on video flying Sukhois/MiGs straight into apartment blocks
                >”Doubtless the biased and decadent Western media will use this latest isolated incident to paint a wholly distorted picture of Russian combat readiness and power projection.”
                This is just the latest variation on the theme; anything less than 100% perfection from the U.S. gets spun as hopium that all Western weapon systems are vaporware and NATO is about to collapse.
                I fully expect some Yankee-hater to make the unironic claim that since CIWS fired more than one round to down the threat, it’s “practically ineffective, since only 0.5% of CIWS rounds fired hit anything at all” or some such moronation.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                All true statements sans the last bit where with the CIWS western procurement is so shit they’d probably run out of ammo for it in any full scale conflict (this is partially tongue in cheek, it behaved as it should)

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        nah he's laughing with how the ziter where gloating about a american ship using it's close in defense system to defend against a houti attack

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >too fluent in English

        Except for the whole reading comprehension/context clues/clever wordplay part that any native speaker born with the correct number of chromosomes would understand.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    You’re right. We need to send F-16s, M1A1s, and tomahawks in their hundreds, as well as a few dozen nuclear armed ballistic missiles and an ohio class. I wouldn’t say no to selling, but not giving, F-35s.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It was a storm

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >controlling the black sea and blockading trade was meaningless after all

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Posting 1000 graphics with destroyed Makarov wont make it true

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    if this were true there'd be more rule 34 of russian shipgirls getting violently dicked
    where is it nafo shill?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Most of them got fricked by (storm) shadow and Im not a furry so Im not commiioning that shit

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >you need to be a furry to want pictures of anime girls getting dicked
        ????

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Most of them got fricked by (storm) shadow and Im not a furry so Im not commiioning that shit

      What's the nearest military condition (for hardware) to swelling up into a blueberry?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Being a Challenger 2.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes but we didn’t want them and they they are useless in a land war and they were about to be scrapped and they were full of Ukrainian pows and they were the Ukrainian Black Sea fleet and they were cheaper than a storm shadow and they all returned to port under their own power so Puccia still wins

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's not about destroying the fleet anymore.
    The black sea fleet is not allowed to leave port nowadays. They are mostly useless now. Ukrainians destroyed that frigate because they somehow managed to pass through this gap with their suicide drones.
    The rest of the fleet is parket at Novorosíisk

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      fricks sake could this not have been guarded by a tiny anti-submersible net and a drunk guy in a rowboat?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes. But they didn't bother.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >successful sea denial accomplished by a nation without a navy
      Has this ever happened before?
      Excluding nations without coastlines/only river access, of course.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Getting ships within range of a defended coastline has always been considered a huge risk. Meanwhile the Russians are not only in range, they're sitting in port being a huge sitting duck. They can be deleted at will whenever Ukraine builds up its stocks enough to fancy lobbing another missile at them, or when they getting lucky with their sea drones.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They are still shooting missiles at Ukrainian cities, anon.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        But they're not sinking ships. Despite all their naval superiority, they have been unable to enforce their blockade. Even RIGHT NOW, vessels are going to and from Odessa, carrying Ukrainian cargo into the world. A major economic victory.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Why would they sink ships with grain lmao.
          Russians are stupid but they do listen to Erdogan

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Readable version

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >vodka runes
      >readable

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Top one is our fav tractor food, the Mockva. Not seeing the Kuznetsov there. Perhaps they can't find it behind her protective smoke screen.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          no, she's not part of the black sea fleet. so not relevant.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Admiral Makarov was damaged but is back on active duty. The jury's still out on Minsk and Olenegorsky Gornyak.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Are they trying to capture this one intact or something?

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    im baffled that russia has a brand new ecm for their ships and still they havent even bothered to install it on any of the black sea ships

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Implying anything of Puccia's ever worked as advertised

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yes it worked well in syria but again you cant just slap it and be done
      an ecm needs to work with the radar and its cms
      it wont happen anytime soon
      but if they manage it its going to be the end of those drones

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They got the contract to install it its just that it's going to take years and millions over budget till it gets delayed again and more millions go over budget and into someone's pocket, you know how it is.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      same i couldnt understand wtf are they thinking
      are they still holding on their doctrine of not giving a single frick about their surface fleet or they just dont give a damn?

      the few things i read about the system its basicly the krashuka 4 with reduced power to have a maximum range of 40km which is a lot and requires some massive emitters i guess thats why they wont install them on smaller ships

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Daily reminder - the Black Sea Fleet was the only Russian fleet that theoretically could have performed any naval warfare.
    Pacific and Atlantic fleet are just a fricktoy for a BMC (Big Mutts wiener) and Baltic Fleet will get raped by Poles, Germans, Svens and Finns.
    They had one fricking change to project power like real, human nations do and all they achieved is a comic relief of this war.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >called it invincible
    we'll there's yer frick'n problem.
    dumbshits going and inviting fate like that.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Well they were shooting at the drones. Looks like they just couldn't hit.

    https://twitter.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1753016444814536725

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Drives straight into the hull breach
      Sweet jesus. No wonder it went down.

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can't Russia bring in corvettes and boats through her internal waterways?

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not close enough to change anything, but damn, that is funny.

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ah yes, Armchair Copelord.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >USS Enterprise sunk
      I mean Japan did claim to have sunk it like 5 times

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ah yes, I remember when the Turks closed the Pacific and we were unable to replace our naval losses in that theater

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They say they are bringing more corvettes and frigates by river and have more ships now!

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          How many oars do the newest Russian corvettes have anyway?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How is this clown still going?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        they have dirt on him, probably related to very very young girls

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Wait, Armchair Warlord is based now??

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            only by russian standards

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Utterly irrelevant in a land war, attacking ships cause nothing more than a moral victory for NATO and won’t change Ukraines position on the battlefield, the Black Sea fleet is miniscule compared to the rest of the Russian navy and they have many such ships that will easily replace them

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Crimea is important as a naval base. What's the point if all the ships get destroyed?
      They also can't enforce the naval blockade on Ukrainian ports with no navy. Ukraine is back to exporting now, both through the EU on land and now through the sea.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Destroying the Black Sea Fleet is important for Ukraine because it allows them to use their ports for trade and it denies Russia the use of her ships as launch platforms for land attack cruise missiles. Yes, some missiles are still fired from the Caspian fleet and not all land attack cruise missiles Russia is firing are sea launched, but it’s still a reduction in launch cadence and salvo weight, which is important for air defense efficiency.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >xaxaxa we blockade der ukrain
      >we didn't need it anyway

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Utterly irrelevant in a land war

      >be Russian Army
      >rail logistics absolutely vital
      >hundreds of thousands of troops in theater
      >rail transit runs through two chokepoints
      >Rostov-on-Don: covered by land routes
      >Kerch Bridge: slightly harder to cover
      >already been hit once before on Vova's birthday
      >Budanov makes no secret that he's planning to take out Kerch Bridge permanently
      >most likely attack is naval assault on support structures
      >fortunately, the mighty Black Sea Fleet dominates th-ACK!
      The illegal occupants of Crimea and Kherson may find out just how utterly irrelevant a neutered fleet is later this year.

      >and they have many such ships that will easily replace them
      After the conclusion of the war they might be allowed to move some in. Or is the implication that Russia will beg and plead to bribe Turkey to open up the straits mid-War?

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fricking love seeing ziggers seethe after losing yet another ship lmao

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Holy shit that's delusional, it's like a German in WW2 saying that the UK is wasting resources attacking Tirpitz because it never leaves its fjord.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        As long as the attacks were repelled it was working that way.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He has a point You are dropping irreplaceable Storm Shadow missiles at what, $1 billion a pop? To take out a $30 million dollar corvette that they can just roll another one off their shipbuilding ports no problem because they have this class of ship on farm!

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        moron

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        storm shadow is US$2.5million numbnuts

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They didn't use SCALP to take out the corvette.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, forgive me for being a dumbgay but they used drones right? Aren't those super cheap? Can't be more than $1000 a pop and I dont think they used more than a dozen to blow up this ship, so the cost is way way lower than even 2.5 mil, much less the ludicrous billion lol.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >storm shadow
        >one BILLION
        Are monetary values just random numbers to you? Do you think the missiles are made of fricking 24 karat gold or something? Absolutely astonishing lack of any sense of scale.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's 10 Billion a pop you penny pinching israelite

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >they have this class of ship on farm
        This is the only true thing you wrote. The Ivanovets did indeed get sent to a farm, where her new owners will take good care of her. Just like my dog when I was a kid.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        homosexual materialist. Are you a communist by chance?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >1 (one) storm shadow is worth 1/1700th of the Russian GDP
        >The Russian GDP is worth only 1700 western rockets
        Wew lad

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why do they always seem to forget that these were the same ships launching cruise missiles into Ukraine (the Moskva was even using it's main gun at some points), and would have fully blockaded the country if they weren't forced to hide.

      No, sinking ships doesn't win land battles. But Its one less threat Ukraine has to deal with, and keeping the sea lanes open is vital to the Ukrainian economy. Also who cares how old it is, you just lost a whole experienced crew, and the ship itself is irreplaceable in any relevant time frame.

      Furthermore, capture the black sea from whom? Ukraine? Why haven't they already done that? From everyone else? good luck with that.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not a single caliber carrying ship was destroyed.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Submarine was destroyed

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      these same people will claim that the US is collapsing because one cargo ship is showing rust

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He's right though, these ships aren't a threat and it's done because it's a propaganda win. But of course having the fleet not be a threat is not the victory he thinks it is. Plus Ukraine's war effort relies on propaganda wins. Destroying these useless ships doesn't make a military difference, but it is one that reminds the world Ukraine is fighting back well and keeps the aid flowing.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >doesn't make a military difference
        Anon, they carry heavy long range anti ship missiles.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          And if they leave port to use them they'll be wrecked by Ukraine's missiles.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >leaving port
            Speaking of which, where's the Ukrainian Navy at anyway?

            You people seem to be actual fricking robots I swear. I'm not even a vatnik but you stupid fricks seem to go to the first thing that makes Ukraine sound cool and stick to it. They didn't spend several USVs on an otherwise useless ship for fun and games, they did it because the missiles it carries pose an actual threat to all Ukrainian warships and freighters.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              you must have never served before

              that ship got destroyed because the naval drones guys were getting blueballed from the Russian navy refusing to come out and play and suddenly this little corvette sailed out like a champion

              there is no masterplan sinking this, there was just opportunity and boys playing with explosive toys, that's why it was hit 5 times (overkill) and fricking split into 2

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >you didn't carry around heavy shit for 4 years you know nothing!
                Apparently I know more than you, dumbass.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >this little corvette sailed out like a champion
                It didn't though, it was blown up in this area lmao

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Is that on the Crimea?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I'm not claiming that Ukraine has it any better. Of course they have it worse, they only have a vestigial navy of a handful of patrol boats. But it's just a fact that both navies are useless, the Black Sea is simply too small for navies to go play without instantly getting wrecked by land or air power.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Always funny that Russians themselves will grudgingly accept these losses, perhaps even be angry about it, while the thirdie bootlickers stuck in the west will just write the most elaborate pathetic cope imaginable on every occasion.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Fix manpower issues
      They recently rotated, so, not much issue there.
      >Or shell shortages
      the EU's laughing can be heard in the background as it single handedly fixes those...

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >20%
    13 / 70 X 100 = 18.5%

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    HAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAH

    Was it worth it Russians for a 100km band of land past your border

    the counters say the Russians only have towed artillery in storage left for another 18 months and self propelled for another 36, assuming the Ukrainians don't upgrade their kill capability

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Ukraine has already destroyed 20% of the Russian Black Sea Fleet
    Yet ruskies have destroyed 100% of ukro black sea fleet. Pretty high yield if you ask me.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Yet ruskies have destroyed 100% of ukro black sea fleet.
      Oh, I'm sure you have a Story Tiem with video for us. Please, sauce that up.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ukraine had one frigate and it was sunk in Mykolaiv.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Scuttled by a traitor, but yes.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, in a lake.

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://www.kyivpost.com/post/27579
    Around 80 ships in Black sea navy. Out of those, 25 have been destroyed and 15 are in repair.

    The source is what it is, so let's take it with a little bit of salt. But if your fleet is at 50% strenght against a nation that doesn't even have a navy... holy shit you are doing bad.
    Is this little regatta going to be another Tsushima for Russia?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Boat numbers are meaningless. How much of the tonnage have they lost?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I agree that the tonnage counts, though I have no idea how much has been sunk right now. But Moskva alone bumbs that number up a fair bit.
        Admiral Makarov, Saratov, Minsk Novocherkassk and Olenegorsky Gornyak were all chonky boys.

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    moronic question: why are the ones in the middle spared? Everything on the top gets submarined, and the little ones got decimated too, but those middle ones doing still well

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >one submarine kill
    This will never not be funny.

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Thread theme

    <Sink the "Invincible" Black Sea fleet while they're at anchor >

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      <<Our Invincible Fleet's gonna be destroyed!>>

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not enought to make russian to make real useul mistake to revenge it. I meaning, it is cool, but not nearly enough to make force the russian to go offensive in haste way in land to give a counter-point.

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ruzzia has never been that weak

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine Russia getting utterly btfo by Turkey of all countries
      They wouldn't stop seething over it for 500 years.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Turkey could EASILY solo Russia. Way more advanced tech plus functioning industry that could easily outpace russia. The cope would be amazing to watch.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Turks are as braindead as russians. Member when they lost a bunch of Leopards to 60's atgm's, because they can't into tactics.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Look, I'm all for TZD but the battle of Sarikamish doesn't give me confidence that the Turks are capable of it.
          Turks only win battles when their enemies try something moronic, like Gallipoli.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Anon, imma be real with you, watching two morons fight to the death in hd is gonna be fun as hell. As long as turkey starts it, we dont have to help them.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How do Bulgaria, Romania and Georgia compare?

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You guys don't get bored of this stupid war, we are just waiting for Trump to get elected so we can get a damn peace treaty already since Biden is fricking stupid. Europe just needs to stop being pussies and just allow Ukraine into the EU. There I saved you 1000 hours of your life.

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Redditor forgets that unlike the US Russia can actually just build more ships instead of being stuck in procurement hell with them for 20 years like murica dies.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Lol sick frag. Just remember you and the rest of this board would actually rope and cry it’s fake if this happened to a single Ukrainian. How is a nade drop related to the fact that equipment is lost in wars and can be replaced? The concept is foreign to the west, which is why I’m concerned we’ll be fricked once a single ship damaged and repairing it takes 30 years since no one knows how boats work anymkre

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Did you forget that we saw a Ukrainian kill himself like a week ago?
      Why do morons like you oust yourself so quickly? Why lie on the internet?

  31. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I heard that the Russians have like 5 Akula class subs out for refit and it's not expected now the refit will ever finish? That a couple of them have been undergoing refit like 12 years now.

  32. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why can't the Russians just patch it and float it like the U.S. did for all their battleships at pearl harbor (except Arizona) during WW2?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Russians don't have the facilitates to do that. The Soviets built a of ships in Ukraine

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They would have to salvage the wreck under fire to bring it back for assessment if it's not obviously damaged beyond repair as it likely is (small boat, large boom).

      Russia would just lose a salvage vessel or vessels since they could not take evasive action while attached to the casualty.

      [...]
      Counterpoint. Spain was a dating empire while Russia is the largest east military industry in human history

      >Russia is the largest east military industry in human history

      You just wrote that the Russian Federation industry is larger than the Warsaw Pact military industry or the US military industry in WWII. Not even ziggers believe that so where are you from?

  33. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >their propaganda called it “invincible.”
    Should've asked the Spanish what happens when you call an Armada "Invincible".
    Its just tempting, really.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/JbHkfBf.gif

      Counterpoint. Spain was a dating empire while Russia is the largest east military industry in human history

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous
        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Silly emojis don’t change the fact the Russia can build the same amount of thanks the rest of Europe has in their inventories in under a year. Russia losing the ships is an embarrassment but they can always make more

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous
          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Russia can build the same amount of thanks
            Utter nonsense, Russia is the most thankless country on Earth. They expect YOU to be thankful to THEM (for not nuking you to oblivion), but they themselves do not build a single solitary thank.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            russia can't make eggs.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Russia losing the ships is an embarrassment
            I'd describe it as more of an abject humiliation, given their delusions of still being a world power. At the very least, it's a rather costly embarassment; the estimated replacement cost for the Ivanovets is something on the order of $60-70 million (about 10-15% of a replacement Moskva, lol).
            >but they can always make more
            "Can" isn't the same as "will". And if Mighty Pocciya's manufacturing and engineering are so great, where are those hordes of T-14s and Su-57s? Why are they dusting off T-55s from when my grandparents were young? Doesn't add up.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Russia can build the same amount of thanks
            thanks? sure.
            But Russia has only build 14 new tank hulls in the last 30 years. Today not even one of these new russian tanks is in good enough condition to drive a few 100 meters in a parade.
            Russia con not even build a truck, or a passenger car.
            This war makes sure it runs out of soviet heritage vehicles. Once this happens there is no way this de-industrialized country is able to rebuild a military.
            With refineries blowing up it's main source of income is destroyed as well.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              they make 400 new tanks a year max mainly T-80s

              and refurbish about a thousand more

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >make 400 new tanks a year max mainly T-80s
                no new t-80s got build after the early 90's mate they are just reusing old hulls

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                T-80 production stopped in the 2000s
                They kept producing T-72s and T-90s, but afaik annual production numbers never exceeded 200

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Tank production ended with the end of the soviet union. With the end of production even the knowledge and the ability to make new tank hulls is gone.
                All your "new T-80s" are over 30 years old. Every single tank Russia claims as "produced" has been pulled from storage.
                Even this becomes harder every day because the remaining tanks are in worse condition.
                What is left now is rusty and already cannibalized.
                Even worse, your fantasy numbers of over 1.000 "refurbished" are not nearly enough to replace losses. Even independent visually confirmed losses are at about 10 per day now. This would add up to 3.000 per year.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                In the first year, Puccia lost 3,500 tanks, and in the second year, it's already reached another 3,000. By year 3, guaranteed they'll have lost their entire pre-war stockpile of tanks.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                to be fair, not every loss is a total loss, about one in four losses is just damaged or abandoned and can be salvaged and repaired( if it happens in russian controlled territory).

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Neat to see how they torch cut some of those in half during the scrapping process. That must be a convenient size for their cranes or other heavy handling equipment.

              There aren't enough pics of track scrapping. The Swiss used a hydraulic "chicken" to munch scrap M113s years ago when no one wanted them during NATO downsizing. The US prohibits their public resale and doesn't sign off on sales where new US production might lose sales to refurbs.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            with what money and what industrial base, dumbass?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why are they pulling fricking ancient tanks out of storage

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Spain was a dating empire

        That's one way to describe the origin of all those mestizos

  34. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Russians are rolling out Yasen and Borei class submarines no problem to be it's new high tech nuclear fleet!

  35. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  36. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  37. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Here's the true Russian Naval Fleet.

  38. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think understand now why the jannies delete ruski shitposting. because you dumbfricks can't help yourself but to take any bait, no matter how obvious. Ukraine is losing btw

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