Ukraine gun selection

If you were a ukie civilian at the frontline which gun would you pick from here? Interesting amount of ARs.
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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      106 years later back to the trenches

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They fricking get actual broomhandles?! No fricking way. Did they actually follow through on loosening their gun laws to be more 2A gun-behind-every-blade-of-grass style?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you can get those c96 in almost every country in europe if you've got the money. what prevents you is the NFA

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >ukie civvie at the front line
    If I am a civilian at the front I am fricking evacuating to the rear and working a comfy defense job loading trucks until the war ends or I'm drafted. If I am a soldier I'm using whatever I get issued.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I would probably get the one that has the easiest to find ammo.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Literally who is buying these? Weren't they handing out free machine guns at the beginning of the war? surely anyone who wants a gun for personal protection in Ukraine has one by now. Are there actually people doing doing gun collecting while their country is in the middle of an existential war?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Do they even still have package delivery?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        They probably limited domestic mail in the western part of Ukraine (mail is kind of important for, you know, running a country) but most private couriers have suspended business in Ukraine and I can't imagine anyone, even the Ukrainian post office, is running package delivery east of the Dniper..

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          This is all wrong, you are acting like the entire country east of the dnipro is a battlefield, it’s not.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I mean, most of it is. Not all but most. And Ukraine Post probably isn't delivering to the parts occupied by Russia right now.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              The postal service won't, but there are sometimes mad max taxi drivers that will deliver from a "safe" city close to the front to your trench for a few bucks

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >yfw you could be initial-d drifting through Russian artillery fire RIGHT NOW as a heavily armed Uber driver but instead you're waging away in an office on the other side of the world
                It's not fair bros

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Manuel - GRADS GRADS GRADS
                >equipment from the 90s
                >drones of fire
                >deja aa nuu

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >they all said I'd best run away, what a fool to believe their lies
                >now they're blown up I'm at the top, are you ready to get droned?
                >I drop nades from a copter, right into the top
                >for the first time I'm taking li-i-ives
                >I can knock out a whole tank
                >and take out some grads
                >do you think you will survi-i-ive the drop?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                you uber eats driver, shiny and chrome.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Bruh, the first trucks into Kherson after liberation, right after the army, were of both the state postal carrier (UkrPoshta) and private package carrier (NovaPoshta).

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I bought a watch from Ukraine about a year ago so yeah they definitely still have a functional postal service

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Interesting

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Do they even still have package delivery?

        I literally bought two Aptechkas from a guy in Odessa a week ago and got them delivered internationally.
        You can't wage conventional war if you lack a functioning state apparatus, and that includes postal services.
        (Ironically the Chernobyl postcards I sent from Kiev years BEFORE the war never arrived.)

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I bought a balalaika from some dude in Kharkiv in Jan 2022 and it arrived after the war started basically destroyed during transit and the dude still emailed back promptly apologizing and offering a refund when his city was probably being shelled.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nova Poshta fricking rocks. I can get shit sent almost overnight to where I'm stationed near the front.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I've both sent to and received stuff from Ukraine. They even have their own dedicated post office here if you want to make certain it gets there.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      F1 AR or WBP AK if I'm poorgayging it. Otherwise Colt M4 or DDM4V7.
      It's interesting to see how the fairly common and affordable AR brands in the US are quite expensive in Europe, like the Colt and Ruger while shit that's near unheard of in the US like the Zion-15 are readily available.

      The gun culture in Ukraine after the war is going to be wild. Even if they recuck on certain laws after the shooting stops the sheer glut of arms and the heavy American influence is going to leave a whole generation of Ukranians who want a gun in their home just in case.

      so i just looked through regulations and basically getting a license is just normal "don't be a schizo or criminal" stuff and then I got jumpscared by the other laws.

      >if you're 18 you can only get a gas pistol(??)
      >21, can buy any type of shotgun/smoothbore you want
      >soon as you hit 25 you can buy pretty much any semi-auto you want at any capacity
      Can somebody please explain this autism in Ukrainian/Russian gun laws regarding age? I literally can't think of any other country that does this. Considering Ukraine had conscription previously and Russia has conscription at 18 it makes even less sense.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        To make harder for young people to get into guns. By the time they're 25 or whatever, their mindset and worldview is completely molded by the state. In my opinion.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >gas pistol(??)
        co2 hand gun, they sell those with pepperballs "bullet

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        tbh sounds pretty based. People shouldn't be legally considered adults until 25. 18-21 year olds are fricking morons.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous
      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I imagine most of this is suspended or being ignored right now especially if you're in the military or in any position of even moderate civil authority.

  5. 1 month ago
    Rich Investor

    F1 AR or WBP AK if I'm poorgayging it. Otherwise Colt M4 or DDM4V7.
    It's interesting to see how the fairly common and affordable AR brands in the US are quite expensive in Europe, like the Colt and Ruger while shit that's near unheard of in the US like the Zion-15 are readily available.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Colt M4 or DDM4V7.
      Both are fairly solid guns, I've had a V7 I imported a fair while ago for work that's had a lot of rounds through it and just keeps on chugging away. There's been some fairly serious teardowns every year or so to go through it and make sure its still alright with no excessive wear, cracks or fractures. Definitely one of the better guns I've owned
      Most of the AR's are easy enough your local armourer can slap in some fancier parts but if you're BYO gat its probably a better idea to pay a little less and spend the cash on a really good optic and best quality magazines that you can afford as it'll make a difference in terms of hitting and reliability.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What currency is that? Ukrainian Hohol?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Ur Ass, Honey

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Unused Asian Hymens

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      hryvnia. 1 dollar = 40 hryvnia

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The gun culture in Ukraine after the war is going to be wild. Even if they recuck on certain laws after the shooting stops the sheer glut of arms and the heavy American influence is going to leave a whole generation of Ukranians who want a gun in their home just in case.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    How the hell is cheap shit like diamondback and radical getting into europe? I would sooner trust my life to a PSA

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Even bargain bin US made ARs are already fairly expensive for (east) Euros, quality ones are nearly prohibitively expensive for many people.
      The Diamondback is $1,500 in real money, meanwhile the median monthly salary in Ukraine is under $600.
      >t. paid something like $1,700 for a CMMG 16" MOE carbine back in 2013 in (sorta) East Europe, and it was one of the first ARs on the market that wasn't either a chink knockoff or a DPMS/Bushmaster

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Forgot to add that this is the result of VAT and import fees.
        You can expect an American gun's price in a Euro gunshop to get hiked by anywhere between 50-100% on top of MSRP.
        Hell, even our own guns are way more expensive than they're on the US market because of VAT + less competition.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Man I don't get how they were so expensive in Czechia even back then. That's like current post-coof post-hoarding Finnish prices and our wages are still like twice yours

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Damn that's pretty fricked. I've been taking my $300 range toy builds for granted. How are ammo prices?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >How are ammo prices?
          Terrible but also somewhat country-dependent
          But if you're complaining 60 cents for bulk .308 is outrageous, that's our pre-coof pricing lol

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/UjLfQT1.jpg

          Even bargain bin US made ARs are already fairly expensive for (east) Euros, quality ones are nearly prohibitively expensive for many people.
          The Diamondback is $1,500 in real money, meanwhile the median monthly salary in Ukraine is under $600.
          >t. paid something like $1,700 for a CMMG 16" MOE carbine back in 2013 in (sorta) East Europe, and it was one of the first ARs on the market that wasn't either a chink knockoff or a DPMS/Bushmaster

          Small market and lack of supply also play a part.
          >t. wanted to buy an AUG a few years ago in Ukraine, the price was more than $8,000

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            US export regulations also unfortunately probably play a part, if you're not a friendly foreign government with a deal it's a humongous pain in the dick with outrageous demands to send guns or even a lot of simple tech out of the country. Stuff that americans can just buy otc. Not that that excuses EU not doing better internally but it certainly doesn't help. If it wasn't for US export shit
            >>t. wanted to buy an AUG a few years ago in Ukraine, the price was more than $8,000
            would not happen because for half that kinda margin (I could have an Aug tomorrow for $1800 or less) any random US gunshop or even individuals would be delighted to send you something.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >How are ammo prices?

          $0.50 for a 5.56
          $0.30 for a 9x19
          Not great, not terrible.
          There used to be deals on guns and ammo that were unironically great even compared to the US ($150 mint Russian SKS with ammo under 10 cents a pop) but these days are mostly gone after >12 years of Syria+Ukraine vacuumed up all the surplus.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I’d defect to russia to have a better life

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not sure about the big cities but I'd much rather live in rural Ukraine than rural Russia. Even the shithole donbas towns seem to have some sort of plumbing.

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