Strategic implications of having your front collapse? I thought the counter-offensive was over when some Leopard 2 were hit?
https://twitter.com/Faytuks/status/1667969135051931649
uh-oh Ziggers
Strategic implications of having your front collapse? I thought the counter-offensive was over when some Leopard 2 were hit?
https://twitter.com/Faytuks/status/1667969135051931649
Panic status?
No panic. It is a trap for the piggers.
The panic is safely in the ass, along with the gloves, the eyebrows, everything that will soon be understood, and the ass.
>this is somehow "front collapse"
HAHAHAHAHAHA SO TRUE!
Ukrainians are PATHETIC! They haven't even made it past the first defenses, let alone the second, third, fourth, fifth, and sifth.
>sifth
I just wanted to point out this lovely esl-ism, thank you vatanons for always discovering beautiful new ways to frick up my language
It's a 10km deep, 30km wide change of territory. That's a collapse. russia needed 9 months for that in Bakhmut
I know you're American because you think 10km is actually a great distance.
Wow, what a moronic post.
10 km of fortified frontline vatnik, some concepts thet some minds are unable to understand are important, like pallets.
Well it certainly is for Russia, it took 9 months for them to get from one end of a small town to the other, and then they still couldn't capture it lmao.
Are these gains comparable? Open fields and villages?
Serious question. I’m leaning towards “success” for the Ukies, but it depends on the cost.
Is not open fields or villages, is what is in range of ukie artillery when the offensive stops.
>you think 10km is actually a great distance.
Just for perspective, Russian death rate in Bakhmut was .75ppm, or 3/4 of a pidor per metre last month, it took them ages, and they didn't even manage to take the city in the end.
Ukraine is doing pretty good imo, esp given that their offensive is slowed down as they have to rescue victims of flooding.
Bakhmut was a city. This is an open field. The two are not comparable.
And I say that with complete seriousness. You shouldn't be comparing the two. If Ukraine starts frogleaping across cities, THEN you can compare their gains with Bakhmut.
yes. bakhmut WAS a city. literally nothing happened when r*ssoids planted a flag in the rubble, so much for ziggers chest thumping
Okay, we're talking about gains, not the merits of those gains. Bakhmut was a waste of Russia lives, but that STILL doesn't mean that urban environments are somehow comparable to non-urban environments.
Okay, post the last time russia advanced 10km within 1-2 days. After all, Ukraine is full of open fields.
Now you're comparing the correct things. That's all I was criticizing.
Saying "THIS IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN BAKHMUT" makes you look stupid. Say it's better than the march on Kiev or something.
>Now you're comparing the correct things
What kind of fields are these?
Those look like small towns. Probably not much left of them either.
You may as well claim the Somme was an example of urban warfare.
>Probably not much left of them either
So just like Bakhmut
10km of fields/villages is still easier to go through than 10km of urban area
So why didn't Russia go through the open fields behind Bakhmut to encircle it? 🙂
They did, but they got beaten back from the approaching roads.
Vuhledar'd
>Ukraine needs to take several cities this summer to compare to muh Bakhmut.
those are some nice mental gymnastics there, bravo.
Actually, I think Mariupol is a pretty good objective in and of itself.
>all those apartment complexes
Shit was fricking room to room and you know it. Meanwhile the Russians are just abandoning these towns and villages. It's not comparable.
>Russians are so low on morale and trained troops that they run away at any sign of resistance
>Russians instead spend ten months throwing convicts and prisoners that have everything to gain by avoiding rape in prison
>to take an area that isn't even 1/10 the size of kharkiv
>kharkiv was taken in literally two weeks
things must be going pretty awful if you have to resort to giving freedom to murderers and rapists and they end up being a bit more motivated than your own trained troops lmao.
the murderers and rapists almost definitely have. a"not pne step back" rule instated and are probably being told the same things about Ukrainians torturing them or taking no prisoner memo that the regular Russian troops have, but the regular russian troops probably more willing to dare their commanders to shoot if they run/surrender rather than the conscripted murderers
God M30A1 AW's would've had the time of their lives targeting that column. What a shame russia probably learned enough to not pull that off again, at least within GMLRS range.
Is that an explosion setting off the missiles' boosters? The operator panicking? The operator firing to stop his ammo from cooking off?
Anon if there was an operator in there he's fricking dead
You're seeing the rocket motors cook off. No way the operators survived that.
I assumed the operator is operating remotely. Don't HIMARS work like that, where no one is sitting in the actual trucks that do the firing? Surely Russian systems are the same
anon I...
Disgusting. Once again I am staggered at the subtle ways in which NATO designers care about their soldiers' lives while Russians just don't
ah yes the secret 1970s AI powered katyusha rocket truck
Both HIMARS and Grads are operated from inside the vehicle.
No, they are not
Do russians actually think this? Or even follow this same type of pathetic logos? Do they think their vehicle crews all survived or something?
If there was an operator in there, he would've become Harvati cheese. Those rocket tubes aren't any thicker than a pipe, that's just the rockets cooking off.
>hot shrapnel passing through solid rocket fuel
>"What could possibly cause the rocket fuel to ignite like this? Maybe comrade Mins Mitnikov inside issued a fire command to save the vehicle?"
Yeah, so it should be easier to defend against an enemy that has to cross said field lmao.
>Bakhmut was a city. This is an open field. The two are not comparable.
Bakhmut was a small city in the middle of a poor rural region with a pre-war population of like 70k or something.
Absolute moron Black person
Can you imagine if bakhmut was surrounded by these open fields? The Russians could have just encircled the town because apparently fields are easy to take.
>apparently fields are easy to take
If they're defended by ziggers, certainly
Thanks for telling us the Russians are making the same mistake the Germans did in Stalingrad.
>muh open field
Continous series of towns, more like. Also, cities don't matter. roads and railways matter.
They're only about 100km from Mauripol so sooner or later the "real" defence line will need to materialise.
>Inb4 the actual defence line is in Vladivostok
i'm wondering whats gonna happen when Mauripol is in HIMARs range.
By then the panic will have started long since, because that means the Ukies sit on the rail line.
Wishful thinking, zigger.
If they're at Tokmak, all russia positions west of Tokmak are utterly turbofricked because their main supply line is broken. The Tokmak rail junction is the keystone of the entire russian defense in Zapo.
>If they're at Tokmak
They're not and will never reach tokmak
>zigger talks about how it own't matter if the Ukies get to Tokmak
>gets told that it'd be an absolute disaster for the Russians
>"They're not and will never reach tokmak"
Well, you changed your tone pretty damn fast, didn't you? And guess what? At current rate they'll be at Tokmak before the month is out. That rail line is gonna get cut, and then the real fun begins.
What is the importance of tomak?
None. At one time it was a big deal, because the rail line through tokmak was supplying the ruaf on the right bank of the dniepr, but it's been meaningless since last Dec. morons going on about the importance of tokmak are making the same oft-mocked mistake the russians made about the importance of bakhmut.
The rail line didn't magically move, moron. And it supplies all Ruaf forces west of the city, now that the Kerch bridge is damaged and shipping across the Black Sea amounts to a trickle in the face of ukrainian missiles' ability to hit crimean harbors.
>The rail line didn't magically move, moron.
The defensive lines that it supplied did move, moron. And there are other rail lines that supply the west that don't go through tokmak, moron. But mostly, you're just a moron.
Did Crimea move?
>mfw Russians are building mortal engines
Still pretending to be moronic? There is a rail line from melitopol straight to crimea, goes nowhere near tokmak.
You are a special moron, the only larger infrastructure that would be left connecting Melitopol (and Crimea) to Donetsk and Rostov after Tokmak would be cut is the highway past the Azov Sea
Cutting the Tokmak rail connection means cutting the last firm connection to the west. Including Crimea. It's all gonna be cut off from meaningful resupply because nothing but a worthless trickle can pass Kerch bridge or be shipped across the Black Sea without inviting even worse disaster.
You're coping, zigger, and you're coping hard.
I would think Russians can move lots of supplies into occupied Azov ports. Issue with losing the rail line is inability to move troops and vehicles between fronts, not ongoing supply.
Uh huh. So according to you the Russians already gave up everything west of Tokmak and Crimea? Becuase if they didn't? Then no, those defensive lines didn't move.
>And there are other rail lines that supply the west
There is exactly ONE other rial line that supplies the west. The one going across Kerch bridge and then up from Crimea. The one that's already damaged and liable to get fricked up hard whenever the ukies want it now that they've got air-launched cruise missiles.
Why are you such a braindead sub-Black person?
>it supplies all Ruaf forces west of the city
No it doesn't. Perhaps you're confusing it with Melitopol (though even there you'd be wrong, simply less wrong). The importance of Tokmak is that taking (or at least flanking it on the western side) puts Enerhodar in peril. But Enerhodar has been shut down for many months and everybody knows that if the russians have to abandon it that they'd blow it a mile high, there's no way the ukrainians will ever get that back again.
Yes it does, Melitopol also gets connected through Tokmak, there is only one continous railway from Donetsk to Crimea and it passes through Tokmak
You're terminally stupid anon, there's no other conclusion to be made. There's a rail line from Melitopol that goes south directly to Crimea, there were multiple threads earlier about ukraine blowing two (admittedly very short) bridges along that line.
The Melitopol line goes through Tokmak first, atleast pretend to be able to look at a map first you daft c**t
That's great, you absolute moron. Except that line is frickign worthless since Kerch bridge got bombed and the crimean harbors are in ukie missile range. Thinking the ziggers can supply their troops west of Tokmak through there is some real hyper-distilled copium.
It was repaired months ago smoothbrain.
ackshually anon they never restored the bridge to full transit capacity, it's still on a weight limit restriction if they aren't fricking morons
It's never been repaired, sub-Black person. To this day the bridge is only capable of limited loads, massively decreasing its throughput capability.
Not to mention that ukies at Tokmak means the Kerch bridge is in Storm Shadow range, so have fun with that, moron.
They've been running full loads on it since January anon. But I'm sure the bridge will collapse within a fortnight.
You've been sucking full loads since January and well before as well.
This guy is probably correct. Bridge is probably good.
But wrong about the missiles. Those storm shadow missiles will deliver the payload.
May we see them?
Only railway linking the east and west.
Oh
While taking Tokmak is useful, they don't even need to take it. They just have to reach the railroad itself and blow it for it to become useless.
Arguably they don't even need to do that, they just need to be in range of cheap artillery munitions to make it unsafe for anything to actually cross it.
While not wrong, you have to understand that taking Tokmak makes the position easier to defend than some bumfrick fields.
Sure, I get that. It's still a valuable target and something to control for the future. Just by reaching the rail it would make taking tokmak easier- it will cut it off from resupply while they lay siege to it.
I guess 10km is nothing now thanks for letting us know Black person.
6.2 miles is a great distance. How long did it take Russia to advance 6.2 miles?
During WW2, the USSR averaged 10 kilometers per day. And that was on average.
And this war? You know the one that matters. And the one where the US isn’t suppling the Soviets with over half their equipment and supplies
Most white Americans drive father than that to pickup groceries; it's euroserfs that have no concept of distance.
I don't know if one was made for Kherson goodwill gesture.
That's an open field. Bakhmut was a heavily fortified city.
Seems like ukraine has a lot of these fields why cant russia push them?
> this frontline is actually an open field
good to know that money, allocated for toblerone line, were all stolen.
25 km to Tokmak. This, unironically, is not a breakthrough.
Yet
Tokmak by the end of the fricking month would be excellent progress. One of these Russian defensive lines better firm up real soon or they're in deep shit.
If it takes them all month to get to tokmak then there will be 3 more freshly-dug lines beyond that. At this rate they're at real risk of running out of men and equipment long before russia runs out of room and men.
Yes cumrade, ass will be raised*~~)
>One of these Russian defensive lines better firm up real soon or they're in deep shit.
If the Russians rush in their reserves the Ukies will shift the main effort somewhere else since they can move troops and supplies much more easily.
>25k
it puts more weapon systems that Ukraine has into range of shit in/around tokmak, though
Feint?
Well Russians were claiming that taking over a smaller area is going to win the war so this is definitely big.
It's a bigger area than Bakhmut which ziggers tried to convince me was well worth tens of thousands dead and a 9-month battle
Not as impressive as taking a salt mine eh?
>one block of bakhmut taken in a week
>glorious russian victory
>half a dozen towns and front pushed back by dozens of kilometers taken in a week
>pathetic ukrainian flopfensive
Imagine posting this after 10 months of human wave attacks on the Bakhmut Giga-Fortress
damn, even the vatniks say the same
https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1667968975743901697
>нecкyчнoe
means "not boring", lol
wish I could read these fricking maps
I got one for you:
What does a vatBlack person say when you show them evidence Russia is lose?
"Dam, dam, daammmmm!"
Funny how /misc/ tourists magically disappear when more info starts coming out that's not in their narrative's favor
The recent spamming has been from bunkerchan, predominantly, but /misc/Black folk still show up like usual, too.
Impressive how the pajeetposters are almost identical to the leftypol Black folk. They really are just hiring fiver streetshitters
the left will never accomplish anything so long as these tankie campist morons are considered part of it
>finally get what's coming to them
This is the reason bunkertrannies cope and seethe endlessly about /k/ and are so eager to organize discord raids, they've been screeching at their computers for a year and a half reading posts here. Just making fun of glorious monke and his army of subhumans is enough to keep them triggered for months.
The only reason Bunkerchan exists is to raid PrepHole.
Why do they hate us so much anyway? Because we like guns or because we make fun of their previous anti-west dictators?
Best I can figure is because of the fact we tend to like really cool weapons that happen to Western very often (it's *never* been exclusively, it should be obvious why), and there's a decent throughput of current or former MIC, defense, or intelligence anons, plus a gigaton of autists that have a lot of overlapping knowledgebase with the aforementioned group, their fricked brains digest this to mean
>"/k/ is the NATO board!"
You can see it in the screenshot, they clearly just see this place as the NATO board full of NATO personnel and glowies, and they believe they're waging an infowar and "decolonizing" this space.
They're also a bunch of nogunz far-leftoid tankie commies, not exactly the demo a weppins board is going to appeal to just based on all the other preconceived notions they have about people who're into weapons and military related ish as a pastime.
kek, imagine being so obsessed with 1 imageboard that you spend literally years of your life trying to organize raids only to go back after 5 seconds so you can gloat about falling for baiting /misc/tards and larp as if everyone knows everything.
Mass spam is a sign that the Pro-Russians are doing poorly. They're are a very emotional lot and they lash out when things aren't going their way.
No guidelines is a good sign yes.
The first 10km are supposed to collapse
So you're saying "trust da plan, comrade?"
Then why can't russia do that?
Dang, is this the fresh off-the-press new kremlin coping method?
the REAL line of defense is in sevastopol stupid piggies, you're falling into our trap
the real line of defense is the friends we made along the way
>trust da plan
>we dont NEED the first line of defence
YOU ARE HERE
>we dont NEED the second line of defence
>we dont NEED the third line of defence
>we dont NEED to avoid encirclement
>We don't need the Urals.
We dont need tigers
Never say that, comrade. Russia must always have T-I-G-E-R-S.
The tigers and gas arent even on that side of the urals stupid HATO piggies. We basically lost nothing
What about all our people now living in the so called "greater european protectorate" (formerly moscow)? Those guys where traitors and criminals anyway, good riddance xxaxaxxa
>Ukrainians are actually Russians so Russia isn’t actually being taken over
Ass is in the ass comrades*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~))
just like the 40 mile long convoy outside Kyiv was supposed to stall and run out of fuel, right?
But then the next 10 km turn into the first 10 km ... so?
>offensive-absorbing crumple zones
>t-that wasn't the REAL defence it's still further away
The birth of a new meme?
You're days behind, anon
he's right though, they're defending in depth. now russians could very well frick it up, just like they fricked up everything else in this war so far. but he's still right. now commence seething about browns/polchuds/whatever.
>defending in depth
whatever frickface youtuber uttered the phrase and put it in morons' minds as "any time you have more than one layer of defenses" should be throttled
no, Russia is not practicing defence in depth, not even vaguely, cry about it
I sweat it has to be that people are confusing "deep battle"/deep operation and "defence in depth" even though they have literally nothing to do with each-other and Russia failed all attempts at deep operation anyway
>whatever frickface youtuber uttered the phrase and put it in morons' minds as "any time you have more than one layer of defenses" should be throttled
I feel the same way anon. It's too much for these morons to pick up a fricking field manual so they just mindlessly regurgitate whatever their favorite youtuber says that week. I hate them so much.
The one that gets me is the misuse of the term "counter-offensive".
um, it's called a crumple zone sweaty
More like a creampie zone.
Whatever you say sweety
>Ukraine is burning through troops and armor way more than it had planned
Ukraine got 85 Leopard 2, 2 of them were put out of service. Where's the burning rest?
2 tanks a day this war will be over by Christmas
>offensive will eventually run out of steam and the hohols will be forced to retreat to the original pre-offensive lines
Can we make any guess about the time left until this happens?
About a week after the Russian air-force begins leveling their positions.
>the Russian air-force
2 weeks of course
This is almost as big as when Russia took the Garden Centre in Bakhmut
but not as big as them fighting over the dump in Backmut
Doesn't look like much to a neverserved like me tbh, but it's a start I guess.
Imagine walking 10km with a weapon, helmet, plate carrier and backpack.
Now imagine lots of people shooting at you while you do that walk, while you try to stay alive and shoot back.
10km in a day is absurdly much.
It almost sounds like there wasn't much actual combat and they just walked in. I don't know if I'd be gushing about it unless it was actually hard-fought.
In less than a week Ukraine captured more territory than Russia did this year
And they're only getting started
the difference is that bakhmut was critical to take (though not as important to hold, so if ukies get it back it doesnt really matter). what importance do these little villages in the crumple zone have? posting these "victories" is just a desperate attempt to save face after losing so many leopards and bradleys
>imagine being this clueless
yes sir, liberating your land is always a defeat. alas ukraine cannot win because liberation = losing, actually.
>after losing so many leopards and bradleys
Is this where you repost that one picture from 3 days ago?
>DUDE TAKING IT WAS SO IMPORTANT TRUST ME BRO BUT LOSING IT DOESN'T MATTER
This is certainly the most pathetic cope I've seen today, if not all week.
>(though not as important to hold, so if ukies get it back it doesnt really matter)
OH MY GOD LADS
IT'S HAPPENING ALREADY
WE'RE GETTING THE PRE-COPE
>pre-cope is favorite cope
>bakhmut was critical to take but not to hold
are you moronic? (yes)
>if ukies get it back it doesnt really matter
Preemptive cope is always a good sign.
"we will define our goals as whatever we can accomplish"
>pre-cope
looks like the russians are getting buckmut broken soon
Ah I see, it is clear to me now.
>so if ukies get it back it doesnt really matter
Taking that pre cope like pre workout on back days.
Stupidest shit I've read tonight. If you just give it back after taking it you might as well never taken it in the first place.
>bakhmut was critical to take (though not as important to hold, so if ukies get it back it doesnt really matter)
delightful cope
>bakhmut was critical to take (though not as important to hold, so if ukies get it back it doesnt really matter)
I LOVE this take.
Hope to see it soon on Russian TV.
>important to take, unless we lose it
Holy shit, you are immersed in a copium isolation tank right now.
>Nuh uh if you take that area back it won't matter because I said so. I also have a special shield that protects my guys.
Kek
I don't care if this is bait or not, it deserves a (you) regardless
veliki dobro
>(though not as important to hold, so if ukies get it back it doesnt really matter).
Where o where have I heard this before????:
>it’s not valuable to hold but it was to take it
Explain how in detail
Capped
Shit I forgot pic
Best zigger cope so far
>bakhmut was critical to take (though not as important to hold, so if ukies get it back it doesnt really matter).
Lol. Lmao
I like this way of thinking. How about snow monkeys stop holding rest of ukraine in similar fashion? You declare yourself winner, we save us some time and men
funniest cope i've read in a while
Bunkerchan is a moronic place, evidently. Go back and stay back.
Put me in the screencap.
Stupid ukronazi piggies, this is merely defense in depth. Our forces are strategically withdrawing to the Black Sea where we can lure the ukronazis into the perfect trap. The eyebrow is raised
THEY ARE CUMMING IN THE ASS
IT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE THIS
>The ass is the ass of the ass.
Gloves status?
Also in the ass.
Swim piggies swim*~~*~~*~~))
"collapse"
all of those horizontal lines are meaningless if they can punch a hole on the highway
I'm not saying they won't get there, but marketing these initial successes as a total collapse is moronic
eh, not really, the ukrainians are clearly gaining momentum, it's not a total front collapse yet but it has the makings of one
True.
Cause that's not the front where these advances are happening
Shit over there towards Tokmak is undeniably moving at a snail's pace so far, probably because the Ukrainians are reinforcing the front that's already succeeding in hopes it will become a full-on rout. Reinforcing success is page 1 of military tactics.
That just sounds like a fast track to losing all of the fancy new equipment by getting it trapped behind enemy lines. To my knowledge neither side has the capacity to just Blitzkrieg their way in without air superiority.
That highway is dialled in
So is all the zigger arty in the area.
>one (1) line of defence
That sector is absolutely fricked, lmao. Russians are going to have to throw their reserves at it just to slow down the offensive.
Those worked so well in bilhorod
>not realizing they are advancing to that line as we speak
I-is that the last line of defence?
The only line of defence.
Trenches and pits are not a viable form of defence if all your infantry and equipment that was meant to fall back there was at the front anon.
whats the purpose of the defensive lines in the bottom right?
It’s in the ass
Ah you think the ass is your ally? You merely adopted the ass. I was born in the ass, molded by the ass. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but blinding!
>hohol
>immediately thinks about anal sex
alright
we're talking about puccians here so it's natural
The facts speak for themselves.
Quick someone post the Leopard, please!
they literally haven't even reached the main defensive line
ah, so this is why Tokmak keeps getting targeted
It's kind of interesting how most people here hadn't actually even considered Tokmak as a major strategic objective in the past few months. I think everyone just sort of assumed that there was a rail line between Berdyansk and Melitopol and that the latter would need to be taken to disrupt Russian supply lines to Kherson and Crimea. Naturally, they'll still want Melitopol to cut off the roads, but cutting Russia's access to supply by rail alone would be a massive blow. The best part is that Tokmak itself doesn't even need to be taken for this to happen. The Ukrainians just need to seize one of the sections of rail between Berdyansk and Tokmak to throw a massive wrench in Russia's already iffy supply line.
Cut off the Kerch Strait's bridge once more and you've got a full logistical catastrophy brewing for Russians everywhere West of the theoretical Ukrainian salient. What happened in Kherson, but a thousand times worse.
Can see why the Russians are so nervous about it. Probably have to fall back into Crimea proper at that point.
I don't want encirclement, I want slow fighting and as many Russians as possible in meat grinder
That is one happy pig
Robotnye is highly unlikely to be the main thrust, unless the Russians somehow rout and abandon their defence.
Some maps and analysis https://twitter.com/Inkvisiit/status/1655584406461902848
>Robotyne is all mined, all mined, Robotyne is all mined.
>the tokmak orifice
My bet is a new cumpit was discovered there
It's festung Tokmak.
Yeah, draw more red lines and dots. It sure helped Belgorod oblast
>avoiding main defensive line
Literal NATO ISIS Maginot NAZI tactics
Hush vatnik, it will all be over soon.
The Khohols will never breach the Banannerheim Line.
Underrated.
LMAO thought you posted a picture of a French map during WW2 for a second. Cope arrows have become cope lines.
Is defensive line posting the new map and arrow shitposts?
Ass location?
64 km is no small distance, and taking tomak isnt a small feat either
It's looking pretty over, vatsisters.. Moscow has fallen..
https://files.catbox.moe/kx57ez.png
if this grand civilization falls, it will be blood in West's hands. the results a catastrophe include refugee crisis, civil wars, death, and nucleaic bombs on the loose. Careful what you wish for
>if this grand civilization falls
Loooool
>grand civilization
>tfw omg student housing
If your students live like that then I’m sorry anon
>student housing
How much of a shithole do you live in if THATS student housing?
>grand civilization
Where is this grand civilization you speak of? Over the past 18 months Russia has demonstrated itself as nothing but a horde of bandits and thugs, bringing nothing to their new subjects but mass looting, rape, and pollution
>refugee crisis
Anyone outside of Moscow and St. Petersburg is already living in poverty and squalor; they won't notice anything out of the ordinary
>civil wars, death
Just like they spent decades trying to impose on the rest of the world with their agitprop bullshit
>pozsya
>Great
>Civilization
>grand civilization
Panic status: None!
>First line is broken, the second one...
>yeah there is a second one.
>Maybe...
>And maybe is someone there too...
They seem less confident now
The crests are struggling to advance in the preliminary zone, let's see how they do when they try to break through the first line of defense, along the Azov coastline*~~
Defenses are being prepared
Soon HATO will understand everything*~~*~~*~~
da comrade the eyebrow has yet to be raised
What the frick is that even?
Trucks from lendlease*~~))
Anyway looked it up, either they're the KRAZ-214 or the KAR-255. So trucks from the 70's.
American aid to help russia frick the dills in the ass.
>imagine me being called a boomer
That truck is even older then my dad
KrAZ 255B
Soviet-era heavy truck ironically build in Kremenchuk, Ukraine
>moving so fast FSB doesn't have time to come up with contingency copes
Like how when Belgorod was attacked, all the vatniks went radio silent at first because they never had orders on how to spin such a scenario
It’s a deliberately made crumple zone, morons
the three main roadways in the area are a crumple zone? are you sure its not just that everywhere else is a minefield?
>deliberately made crumple zone
No shit, now we're speculating where there might be a breach in the main defensive lines.
WarGonzo is emphasizing how important it is for Russia to hold onto Staromlynivka. That will lead to a straight shot towards Orkynske, a possible weak spot.
Being more pedantic, the Orkynskev defensive line is probably just as competent as the rest of the defensive line, but the catch with it is there are almost no other defensive lines past it. Ukies breaching past it would would be very concerning for the Russians.
>two lines of trenches
Russia is 100% gonna have to shove its mechanized reserves into this gap that's being made.
Then Ukraine makes their main breakthrough attempt somewhere else.
Somewhat doubt they'd send larger than usual mechanized forces. There must be a landmine within 10 feet at any given spot in those fields. Ukrainian artillery has been going into absolute overdrive in that area, so any small voids armor will be forced to sit in will be wiped by 152mm and 155mm.
>a deliberately made crumple zone
no worry. there will be another final line of defence and holols will be slaughtered this time for sure by mighty pocnna!!!
Two more lines
>no saddam
Dissapoint.
This is not front collapse. This is local breaktrough.
Don't get high on hopium just yet.
Why don't they just detour through Russia?
Hato wont give more gibs then
TZD
Budanov has been dead for like a week, he was in the bunker under the GUR building when the Russians launched a bunker-penetrating missile at it
Yeeees, 2 more weeks and ass will be in the ass*~~*~~)
just like zaluzhny before
Suck my balls
You should try ivermectine
like pottery
Looks like they've cleared two good tracks there.
Post the video. Bradley on the left might have its ramp down and Leo on the right may have its hatches open but without seeing those as true this could just be a still from footage of operational vehicles. Even if they're knocked out we seem to see tracks ahead so some other vehicles got through.
This is so fricking fuzzy it could be an impressionist painting
Wait I was told by brown people that one leopard was destroyed and the war was over? I can't keep up
>spreading your forces thin
yikes
Where is that?
Northern front near Svatove
were you sleeping inside your mummies tummy last september?
I swear all these town names feel like they're out of Dr. Seuss.
>Ukraine pulling ANOTHER KHARKIV OFFENSIVE FEINT HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAHAAAAAHAHA HOLY SHIT
If they reach Starobilsk it's actually over for Russia's entire Donbas campaign
>feint
>literally everyone knows it's coming
:/
Russian blogs were screeching about Ukrainian build ups near Kharkiv in the weeks leading up to September's episode. This time we'll see if the MoD takes this build up seriously enough.
Taking it serious doesn't matter when your reserves are spent. We've reached the point where the Russians can't even react to every ukrainian advance anymore and have to choose where they wanna lose ground.
>Ziggers are literally drawing red lines in the sand for Ukraine to cross
Just to let everybody know, /chug/ has created an entire general for their cope.
Was /chug/ itself not enough anymore or is that just full of brownoid schizoposting now?
I'm pretty sure I precipitated that by shitposting on /chug/ for a bit. A bong was VERY mad at me, I guess that thread is his way of coping.
Tankies are so fricking dumb
GIWTWM
So you're telling me Russia spent almost 2 months capturing Bahkmut and now they're going to lose it?
The finger goes deeper in the ass
>panicmongers will be sho-banned on sight
If this is Russia winning, then I dread to see Russia losing
Aaaaannnd...ITS OVER
LMAO
Didn't Russia already win three days ago?
lmao this is literally just a different angle of the same failed attack get new material
>two leo mine plows
Nah, this is new. The multiple angles one spammed to hell 3 days ago was using just one mine plow and bradleys were side to side
it's a falseflagging vatnik anon.
the leo plows are new losses but it’s from the same attack
https://twitter.com/oalexanderdk/status/1668015787116752899?s=46&t=d9PkD1c4p3qJ2ILt6zjW_Q
>https://twitter.com/oalexanderdk/status/1668015787116752899?s=46&t=d9PkD1c4p3qJ2ILt6zjW_Q
>it's the same attack
>trust me dude
lmao
There's an impressive amount of ukrop cope in that twatter thread.
It stopped the advance? No? Then its not overt
show us some pics inside the leos and brads ivan
That was just like the Pontoon crossing or Vulhedar.
But worst
This is not Vuhledar. This is Severny Donetsk river forcing.
Russia lost 100s of vehicles there not 5
50% of the worlds Leo2R fleet in one picture, btw.
The only thing in this video that looks particularly unrecoverable are those MRAPs and whatever that thing in the middle is tbh. Not really sure why vatniks have been trying to spin this narrative of "Equipment losses and casualties don't happen to successful attacks"
>I'll post this picture in every thread, with the exact same text
>that will show those SHILLS
You look... Agitated. Mad, even.
First it was 1 km
Then it was 5 km
Then it was 10 km
And now its 15 km
When will it become concerning??
How long until the Ziggers memory hole this offensive? Hell, they might even memory hole the whole war at this rate. Maybe they’ll remember their glorious Bakhmut victory
Were they secured?
That's not important.
>10-15km from the first defensive line
So the ziggers built their first defensive line so far to the rear that the Ukies don't even have to breach it to get into tube artillery range of the Tokmak rail line? LMAO.
>le defense line
So what happens when the ukes start bashing one section hard and the Russians need to reinforce it? There are still two other major assault prongs they need to worry aboutm
I knew /k/ was fricking stupid but do you people not understand defense in depth? They haven't even made contact with the first defense line. They are in the minefield crumple zones.
cope as much as you like, it's free
>horrible post
>e-girl pic
Yep, it’s /chug/ time
Funny how the first defense line keeps getting moved farther back.
>Stupid /k/opers, don't you understand that St. Petersburg is only Russia's strategic crumple zone? You haven't even reached our first defense line!
It's not the 18th century Black person. Fortifications barely matter in modern warfare and minefields are literally better.