U.S. wants Japanese shipyards to help keep warships ready to fight in Asia

>YOKOSUKA, Japan, Jan 19 (Reuters) - The United States and Japan are looking to make a deal for Japanese shipyards to regularly overhaul and maintain U.S. Navy warships so they can stay in Asian waters ready for any potential conflict, U.S. Ambassador to Japan Rahm Emanuel said on Friday.
>"China watches what ships are coming in and out. It is not like this is a secret, they know what's happening. So therefore, they take an evaluation of your deterrence," Emanuel told reporters at the Yokosuka naval base near Tokyo.
>Unchallenged in Asian waters for decades, the U.S. Navy faces a growing Chinese navy being built in shipyards that are outpacing U.S. warship production.
How the tables have turned in 80 years, if WW2 was refought with the current Japanese and US ship building capabilities we all would be speaking Japanese instead of English now:
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/us-eyeing-japanese-shipyards-warship-overhauls-says-us-ambassador-2024-01-19/

250 Piece Survival Gear First Aid Kit

LifeStraw Water Filter for Hiking and Preparedness

250 Piece Survival Gear First Aid Kit

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    had to give it away at the end didn't you

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What? The fact that the current US ship building capability is laughable? Reminder that the first Constellation class frigate, won't be delivered until 2027 if not later and the DDG(X) until 2030s. The USN is slowly becoming the IJN.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Why would you not utilize Japanese shipyards to maintain ships stationed in Japan? I'm surprised they don't already do this

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Because it would be preferable to create a shipyard worthy of the name on Guam, which is US Territory.

          Guam is a bit further out of range of Chinese missiles, and a point defense of an island is a lot easier than guessing whether the bugmen are aiming at a city, an airbase, or a shipyard.

          It would also help if we hadn’t “elected” enemy agents into policy making positions these past 70 years and had them hollow out our steel industry and shipyard capacity.

          Brooklyn Naval Shipyard: Gone
          Philly Navsl Shipyard: Gone
          Charleston Naval Shipyard: Gone
          Mare Island Naval Shipyard: Gone

          Those are just Naval shipyards off the top of my head. The list of civilian shipyards that are gone is ridiculously long.

          We are governed by traitors. The evidence is before your eyes.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            People like you are why red flag laws exist.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It's called capitalism moron. How the frick could the US gov afford to keep a dozen shipyards with zero non government business open? The federal gov takes great pains to keep as many MIC companies open as possible. And yes there are sometimes dangerously few. But what do you want? Us to double the debt we already yVe building ships and planes we don't even need.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Cancel some nig welfare programs, put some actual taxes on the billionaires like we did in the 50s, problem solved.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Every welfare program helps more poor whites than poor blacks. Simply because hey there are wayyyyy more whites than blacks in the USA.
                Also lol no, foodstamps are not paying for keeping shipyards airframe builders, and such open forever. Taxing the rich more would help. But the actual biggest robbery of tax payers is corporate taxes being hidden of fricked with using loopholes and tax havens. That's the only way to get a huge chunk of money.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Every welfare program helps more poor whites than poor blacks. Simply because hey there are wayyyyy more whites than blacks in the USA.
                you're wrong, very wrong

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Cancelling every single welfare program in the US would come out to a rounding error on the military budget and that's being generous

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Social security alone is almost twice as much as the entire defense budget.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Your assertion prompted me to look it up and the US military budget is nearly four times the size of social security.
                I will at least concede that that is not a "rounding error"

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Non-discretionary spending (welfare) exceeds discretionary spending (military, functions of state, etc.). Its more than half our budget AND we cant adjust it because its NONDISCRETIONARY.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                LOL yes we can. We adjust it pretty much every year.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >It would also help if we hadn’t “elected” enemy agents into policy making positions these past 70 years and had them hollow out our steel industry and shipyard capacity.
            You dipshit, the American Steel Industry became bloated and inefficent while its East Asian competitors embraced innovation and became more efficent. The shipyards closed due to lack of both government contracts and no commerical contracts (because American shipyards are shit compared to Asian ones). The best thing America can do is remove the Jones Act and allow the US to build naval ships in Allied Shipyards

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Don't even try, these fricking autists, are right now over on pol screeching about communists. And over here screeching in this thread about commercial shipyards closing.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            End of the cold war and end of history dipshit. You cant reconsider past decisions based on what we know now, we have to consider them based and what the decision maker knew then.

            Those bases were closed in the 1990's. Russia was a dump and China wasnt even in the WTO yet.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Why would you not utilize Japanese shipyards to maintain ships stationed in Japan? I'm surprised they don't already do this
          Some things could be done in Japan. 30 years ago a coworker that had been an enlisted aboard the Midway a few years prior was telling me a story of a Japanese being a c**t when the Midway put into Japan and had a minor repair done while there. Seems the crew had discovered one of the flight deck plates was stuck due to corrosion during routine maintenance and was anticipating a multi-day layover (and, more importantly, leave) while the yard in Japan arranged for a crane, etc, to pull the plate up. Coworker ended up talking to the supervisor someway and mentioned that a crane would be needed whereupon the supervisor gave him his best "stupid gaijin" look and detailed his workers to use prybars to get an edge up and put wood shims in the lifted edge and then pour water on the shims. The wood swelled of course and after a while the plate popped up. The supervisor then said something to the effect of dumb Americans always wanting to use brute force instead of brains.

          Anyway, point being that Japanese yards were apparently allowed to do some work even decades ago but I don't think they could do anything in engineering or other sensitive areas which is what's being talked about now.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >The supervisor then said something to the effect of dumb Americans always wanting to use brute force instead of brains.
            Disrespecting a customer to their face like this is extremely unlike Japanese culture. Maybe this particular supervisor was an butthole or the story is exaggerated but behavior like this is generally looked down upon.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        hello sirs!

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          hello airman!

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I think he’s Chinese because he’s mocking US shipbuilding

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The US has over twice the floating tonnage of the next runner up. The US has more supercarriers than most countries have warships at all. The last time one of you brownskin navies got uppity, half of your tonnage was sunk in a couple of days. Please try something, I am literally begging you with tears in my eyes. I want snuff kino of watching shitskin or yellow monkey sailors leaping into the ocean while on fire, only to be eaten by sharks.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >The US has over twice the floating tonnage of the next runner up.
          For now. Pay attention to your own crew then if you want gore vids. Get missile swarmed

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            How's life in the British Raj?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              How's the weather in Tel Aviv, Goldberg?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Why would an Israeli defend US navy?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Get missile swarmed
            How's that working out in the Red Sea?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            What happens then? Will China expand its glorious track record of losing every single land-based military engagement outside of its own borders to also losing every single sea-based military engagement too? Ignore history at your own peril.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >I want snuff kino of watching shitskin or yellow monkey sailors leaping into the ocean while on fire, only to be eaten by sharks.
          plz this.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >How the tables have turned in 80 years
    True, now the US has way more allies in the Pacific that can support and supplement the US Navy.
    Maybe China wouldn't need to do literally everything themselves if they invested more time and effort into making friends instead of enemies.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      wolf warrior diplomacy is specifically at odds with making friends. China wants vassals not allies and it's probably a good thing Xi is so moronic.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >wolf warrior diplomacy
        Hu Jintao did well enough with his 'peaceful rise" policy before this where people thought China won't stir shit but they were secretly building up a ton of stuff and had a massive pull diplomatically behind the scenes. With Xi however, he just can't help it with his China stronk shit, now the West knows what's up and is actively trying to frick them over, prodding for weakness and shit with Hong Kong, Taiwan, ASML, you name it.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The delicious irony with Xi is that he is fixated with the decline of empires but keeps coming to the wrong conclusions.

          https://i.imgur.com/Vfl7uO9.jpg

          [...]
          [...]
          [...]
          Friends are less important when you can single handedly carry the entire war by out producing all your opponents.

          Which forces them to pool together.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      China seething mad that they don't have friends who will make ships for them like America has.

      wolf warrior diplomacy is specifically at odds with making friends. China wants vassals not allies and it's probably a good thing Xi is so moronic.

      >wolf warrior diplomacy
      Hu Jintao did well enough with his 'peaceful rise" policy before this where people thought China won't stir shit but they were secretly building up a ton of stuff and had a massive pull diplomatically behind the scenes. With Xi however, he just can't help it with his China stronk shit, now the West knows what's up and is actively trying to frick them over, prodding for weakness and shit with Hong Kong, Taiwan, ASML, you name it.

      Friends are less important when you can single handedly carry the entire war by out producing all your opponents.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Anon, which side in WW2 thought they didn't need any friends and could take on the world by themselves?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The side that didn't have the industrial capacity to keep up with the world's top industrial powerhouse at the time which single handedly carried the entire war.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        impressive, very nice
        lets see paul allens food and energy imports.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          They're literally the top producer of wheat in the entire world and now thanks to western sanctions against Russia, all the Russian oil and gas is being sold to China with whom they share a land border, which can't be blockaded by the USN:
          https://www.world-grain.com/media/photos/154-world-s-top-wheat-producing-countries
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_wheat_production

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            production doesn't mean they are meeting demand. For example the US is the number one oil producer now but still consumes more than they produce. China has been a net importer of food since 2004. In fact the US and France are the top two exporters of food to china. Only 1% of food products are imported from Russia.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              https://i.imgur.com/akFalZN.png

              >Between 2003 and 2017, China’s food imports grew from just $14 billion to $104.6 billion. While food exports nearly tripled from $20.2 billion to $59.6 billion over the same period, China increasingly finds itself running a food trade deficit.
              >China is also heavily reliant on food imports from other countries. China’s demand for basedbeans has skyrocketed in recent years, in large part because the crop is an important source of animal feed for livestock. From 2000 to 2018, Chinese basedbean imports grew from $2.3 billion to nearly $38.1 billion, leaving China as the world’s largest importer of the legume, by a wide margin.

              >Beijing provides massive subsidies to its agricultural industry. In 2018, China paid out $206 billion in agricultural subsidies – nearly twice as much as the EU ($110 billion) and nearly five times as much as the US ($44 billion).
              >At the Annual Central Rural Work Conference in 2013, Chinese leaders acknowledged that the country would have to supplement its domestic supply with “moderate imports” in order to meet food security needs.

              Importing tons of basedbeans because of your cuisine demands lots of basedproducts doesn't negate the fact that you already have your basics covered with wheat production.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >in large part because the crop is an important source of animal feed for livestock

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                here's a fun fact about feedstock: most of it is not edible for humans
                when people talk about a country needing x amount of feedstock, that's all the parts that humans cannot use. a much smaller percentage of it would actually be useable for people.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Oh, my bad, I didn't realize you were going to bite the bullet and say that the Chinese will accept not eating meat because they can't feed their people and feed animals at the same time.

                >With regard to meat products, China has witnessed an astronomical increase in consumption. In 1975, China consumed a mere 7 million tonnes of meat. That figure had grown to 86.5 million tonnes by 2018, making it the largest meat consumer in the world.
                >This exploding demand for meat in China can be largely attributed to changing demographics. The emergence of China’s urban middle class has corresponded with a shift away from a grain-oriented diet to an increasingly meat-heavy intake.
                >More affluent urban residents have likewise developed an appetite for other resource-intensive foods, such as dairy products.

                >Nevertheless, China’s appetite for basedbeans exceeds the production capacity of Brazil and most of the world combined, leaving the US to fill the gap.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                no homie, what i'm saying is that china would not actually have the grain capacity to feed itself if it stopped using it as animal fodder.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                he's been cherry picking sources and misrepresenting how they fit into the bigger picture of Chinese economics to try and b8 (you)s lel. Everyone living in reality knows the key deterrence against an invasion of Taiwan is how badly china would get shit on economy wise. Especially at a time with all time high youth unemployment. The CCP has always been extremely paranoid about it's own citizens and sees a growing economy as central to it's continued power. Issue is that that is slowing down faster than expected. Not that peter zeihan's famine and collapse in a decade is real, but china is poorly structured and has huge weakspots thanks to globalism. Same as most countries. Add in general CCP moronation and you get an uncomfy spot for them without huge reforms.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Is there anything better than having some beef jerky and cheese on crackers with a glass of red wine?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                But China is a rice grain country

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I agree. Those calories will simply be replaced by Prayer.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Between 2003 and 2017, China’s food imports grew from just $14 billion to $104.6 billion. While food exports nearly tripled from $20.2 billion to $59.6 billion over the same period, China increasingly finds itself running a food trade deficit.
            >China is also heavily reliant on food imports from other countries. China’s demand for basedbeans has skyrocketed in recent years, in large part because the crop is an important source of animal feed for livestock. From 2000 to 2018, Chinese basedbean imports grew from $2.3 billion to nearly $38.1 billion, leaving China as the world’s largest importer of the legume, by a wide margin.

            >Beijing provides massive subsidies to its agricultural industry. In 2018, China paid out $206 billion in agricultural subsidies – nearly twice as much as the EU ($110 billion) and nearly five times as much as the US ($44 billion).
            >At the Annual Central Rural Work Conference in 2013, Chinese leaders acknowledged that the country would have to supplement its domestic supply with “moderate imports” in order to meet food security needs.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            What is that, statistics for ants?

            https://i.imgur.com/akFalZN.png

            >Between 2003 and 2017, China’s food imports grew from just $14 billion to $104.6 billion. While food exports nearly tripled from $20.2 billion to $59.6 billion over the same period, China increasingly finds itself running a food trade deficit.
            >China is also heavily reliant on food imports from other countries. China’s demand for basedbeans has skyrocketed in recent years, in large part because the crop is an important source of animal feed for livestock. From 2000 to 2018, Chinese basedbean imports grew from $2.3 billion to nearly $38.1 billion, leaving China as the world’s largest importer of the legume, by a wide margin.

            >Beijing provides massive subsidies to its agricultural industry. In 2018, China paid out $206 billion in agricultural subsidies – nearly twice as much as the EU ($110 billion) and nearly five times as much as the US ($44 billion).
            >At the Annual Central Rural Work Conference in 2013, Chinese leaders acknowledged that the country would have to supplement its domestic supply with “moderate imports” in order to meet food security needs.

            >15.5% of groundwater is Grade V
            Jesus fricking Christ.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Out producing the globe doesnt matter if you cant get the materials to make shit
        >Australia still remains by far the top source of iron ore for China, with a 67% share in Jan-Jul 2023. Iron ore imports from Australia to China in Jan-Jul 2023 increased by +4.4% y-o-y to 441.6 mln tonnes

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          this, people forget how different US industry in the early 20th century and Chinese industry in the early 21st century are. China is a beast of a global economy that America created and maintains. Without access to those global resources none of these impressive numbers would be remotely possible. I wouldn't say its straight back down into Mao era famines but their industrial output would halve or worse overnight without imports.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        that chart is weird as shit, so no one was producing steel in the 70s and 80s?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          There are countries other than the US and China not represented in the graph my illiterate friend.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        How is China going to make steel without American and Australian met coal

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Nuclear powered electric arc furnaces

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Where are they going to get their carbon from

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              russia ng

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Russia doesn't have met coal either

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Excess population.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Chinese steel
        Aight, Ill post it

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          thank you mr anon

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Force the japs to do the work on their dime
    They benefit massively from the USN 7th fleet keeping their sea lanes safe

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's only going to get worse as the time goes on. We better hope these chicoms implode like the Soviets did soon or we're fricked.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >china has more shipyards
      >send in stealth bombers to blow up shipyards
      >china does not have the means to retaliate
      >now US has more shipyards
      Wow that was hard

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      By your own graph china will still not have caught up in terms of tonnage by 2040. So, we have 18 years until the PLAN is almost as big as the USN.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >even outsourcing ship repairs
    owari da... Americabros... it's over

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    China seething mad that they don't have friends who will make ships for them like America has.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      based Power of Friendship enjoyers

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It is fascinating to see the US flag and the rising sun flag side by side, even more fascinating is how widespread the rising sun flag is as official flags of their military's branches.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >U.S. wants Japanese shipyards to help keep warships ready to fight in Asia
        No, it wants them to be able to do minor maintenance. For example, see this rusty boi here yeah, we want the nips to be allowed to do some sanding and painting.

        Because otherwise, if you want to do some surface maintenance its 5 days sailing to Hawaii or two weeks of sailing to Washington. Dropping a couple hundred grand on fuel and salaries so you can go get some corrosion treatment and redo some wiring is not really cost efficient.

        Despite what you may think doing anything more than minor touch up work is not really feasible in active naval stations due to environmental regulations and such. Its also a waste of resources, if the USN has a crew and a working ship they want them to work, not frick around in dock with needleguns and paint.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly at the rates shits going, we should just convince the nips to join the union wholesale

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They're going to get over run, we should give them what they want and then swoop in and give them assistance when they require it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If they succeed they're a valuable ally. If not we have to bail them out again. It's patronizing to talk down at them and tell them they're not allowed to do anything.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You mean chinese you fricking weeb, chinese shipyards are something like 30x capacity of japan, even worst korea is 10x the nips

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Gotta hand it to the China shills, trying to make your army seem strong when it was just revealed that most of your missiles are defunct due to ineptitude and/or corruption is a bold strategy.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm pretty convinced Japan could solo china if we let it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      China would destroy Japan.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        ... In the starving game

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          China has more people, more missiles, more ships and nooks. Japan would be destroyed, in the actual sense of the word.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            ... Is what I would say if I were fiercely delusional

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              China would nuke Japan relentlessly, repeatedly and without pause, until Japan surrenders unconditionally. As the only country on earth that has been nuked before, Japan is especially mentally vulnerable to nukes. Afterwards. Japan would be broken up with the top island governed by Russia and the bottom governed by China.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Okay I can't keep up the mocking anymore I feel bad mocking the mentally ill.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Just accept that China > Japan in terms of military capability.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                how about you eat gutter oil and die instead chang
                you will never defeat horrible japenis basterd pigdog

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                There simply is no proof. If china were to ever attack Japan they'd be dealing with 100+ F-35s alone and that'd render their air force useless, their navy is horrifically bad, plus Japan would have the economic and military support of the entire west, without wishy-washy politics getting in the way.

                Stop being moronic. China is huge. Japan is small. There's no way the Japanese can hope to stop China.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Stop being moronic. China is huge. Vietnam is small. There's no way the Vietnamese can hope to stop China.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                japan is slightly larger than germany dipshit, and with a much bigger population too.
                china would probably be able to contest a lot of waters, but japan is not easy pickings by any means.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Japan would just get bombed into oblivion.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                never ask
                >a german their grandparent's profession
                >a russian their grandparent's religion
                >a chinaman their grandparent's ethnicity

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Okay, time to pull off the gloves now and pull out the mother of all analogies..

                You're saying Britain could fight off all of Europe.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Britain fighting multiple peer adversaries
                Means
                >Japan fighting a near peer adversary
                Woah nice analogy moron.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                China is Europe times 2. Japan is Britain times what, 0.9? There's no contest here. China would beat Japan and annex it.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                every asian country, if it had any brain or sense of self-preservation, would be making nice with China right now, not antagonizing it, or becoming a host for US diplomatic insanity

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It only makes sense to ally with China in a world where the US doesn't exist. The US evidently wants to trade with everyone forever. They don't care to change cultures and we've seen that when countries have a choice between the US and the Soviets, they pick the US.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >he US evidently wants to trade with everyone forever. They don't care to change cultures
                AHHAHAHAHA
                AHHAHAHAHAH
                AHAHAHAHAHAH
                AHAHHAHAAHAHHA

                holy absolute shit

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You having that shit ready to go just makes you look like a sino agent/sophist/troll/bot, etc.

                Japan, Vietnam, the Philippines; they all see the US as a bunch of pragmatists, while China is a bunch of communists. China seeks to changes countries to be like itself. America seeks trade. Countries that value self determination pick the west every time, because it's always a relationship that's comfortable at arm's length.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >"hahah i got my own shit rammed down my throat, so ill just double down, because saying it makes it so!"
                pathetic

                youre fricking dancing clown if you think there is anyone who thinks the US ISNT the biggest perpetrator of spreading culture war world wide

                its quite literally our biggest export
                Japan is on the receiving end of it now
                >migrants, anyone?
                if I say the word "BBC", im sure the first thing that comes to mind is "Chinese culture war"
                amirite!?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                boy what a strangely formatted post
                i sure do wonder who's behind this one.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >hes nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooticing again
                unique IP's die at 39,

                all I had to do was stay "on topic" and the noooooooooticer comes in and

                >boy what a strangely formatted post
                >i sure do wonder who's behind this one.
                absolute psychosis^
                hey everyone! look at that post formatting!

                https://i.imgur.com/Vfl7uO9.jpg

                [...]
                [...]
                [...]
                Friends are less important when you can single handedly carry the entire war by out producing all your opponents.

                >bottom chart only goes to 1960
                >"GEE willy the US was no joke! mighty eagle even!"
                lmfao, why not show the vertical nose dive down in the 70's and vertical line UP of China after?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                what is this schizo meltdown

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                the resident autist is chimping out again and janny hasn't caught up yet

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                i guessed right lmao, foiled again helmettard.

                in case any of you want to see he's having a meltdown over at

                [...]

                right now.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >i sure do wonder who's behind this one.
                israelites/eastern shill farms

                that chart is weird as shit, so no one was producing steel in the 70s and 80s?

                >that chart is weird as shit, so no one was producing steel in the 70s and 80s?
                Japan, Germany, South Korea, Taiwan, and the USSR you stupid monkey Black person.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >if I say the word "BBC", im sure the first thing that comes to mind is "Chinese culture war"
                ????

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                And a very good ching chong ding dong to you too Mr. Xiang

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Not him but China isn’t the one going around telling countries to take in millions of shitskins because muh diversity. Chinese politicians aren’t the ones saying men can’t get pregnant.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                And yet the world still basically flocks towards US hegemony outside of the chinks and vatniks. You notice how most of SEA and other countries around West Taiwan are increasing US aligned? It's almost like the alternative is far worse or something....hmm...

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You can complain about culture war shit all you want. The irony being you have the ability to do so. Talk shit about the powers that be in RU and CN and you disappear or suffer a heart attack while falling from a 6 story hotel.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, instead in Freedumbland israeli billionaires dox you, get you kicked out of university, blacklisted, and potentially charged with hate crimes (which carry either a prison sentence or a fine).

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You can say anything you want unless you call for active violence. People do this everyday. You can find dozens of articles of people saying anti israeli stuff. None of them go to jail in the US.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >you can say anything you want unless you criticize israel
                FTFY

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Post any proof, schizo

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                How about all the college kids that literally got dox’d, kicked out of school and blacklisted from jobs by a israeli billionaire?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Post proof

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Given how apparently common and outrageous this sort of behaviour is you must at least be able to provide us with the name of someone who has experienced this?
                Or did those dastardly israelites erase them from existence as well?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Have you ever noticed how the millions of refugees all want to go to western countries instead of China, despite China being just as desperate for working age immigrants (if not more so) than the west?
                Have you ever wondered why that happens?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >You guys don't understand
                >if you live in the west, you might see a homosexual
                >this is literally the worst possible thing that could EVER happen to a person
                >Far, FAR worse than living under a repressive dictatorship where even something as basic as trying to form a workers union is enough to get you tortured and killed

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >John F. Kirby (born June 3, 1963) is a retired United States Navy rear admiral
                so a literal who

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >"hahah i got my own shit rammed down my throat, so ill just double down, because saying it makes it so!"
                pathetic

                youre fricking dancing clown if you think there is anyone who thinks the US ISNT the biggest perpetrator of spreading culture war world wide

                its quite literally our biggest export
                Japan is on the receiving end of it now
                >migrants, anyone?
                if I say the word "BBC", im sure the first thing that comes to mind is "Chinese culture war"
                amirite!?

                >first post is relatively well formatted and punctuated English
                >by the second reply same “person” is spouting incoherent ESL babble
                Every fricking time with this shit.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Whoops, meant

                every asian country, if it had any brain or sense of self-preservation, would be making nice with China right now, not antagonizing it, or becoming a host for US diplomatic insanity

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                That has already happened more than once in the last few hundred years alone

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                USSR was frickhuge, but USA was able to put a stop to it. Japan can do the same to China, but easier.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                When the jap general got killed in the helicopter crash last year chink social media blew up laughing, heard they throw parties everytime jap has another earthquake savoring the jap suffering

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                it's the result of japanese superiority over china, chinks are extremely jealous of japanese success and thus celebrate every time something goes wrong for them.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I was thinking the whole “invade our country and slaughter millions of our people” thing had something to do with it.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Nanking never happened though, it was just war

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Weeb detected

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yes but most japs today had nothing to do with what happened almost a century ago yet they are still treated like shit by 1/5 of the global population in one country alone and this is excluding the chuds in the west that think arr rook same

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                There’s a part jap dude in our social group, quiet but nice guy but turbomanlet, gets bullied relentlessly by the chinks, flips and pajeets, most of lowkey feel bad for him but too much effort to do anything about it

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, that (and the reputation the nips earned from it) is indeed the success being referred to here

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Stop being moronic. Russia is huge. Ukraine is small. There's no way the Ukrainians can hope to stop Russia

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The amount of territory Russia still holds is equal or greater than the area of Japan, no? It follows that China would conquer all of Japan and Japan wouldn't have any territory left, if all things were equal.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                https://www.thetruesize.com/#?borders=1~!MTQ5ODIzODc.MTIxOTkxMzc*MjYxNTM4NjI(MTc3OTEwNjk~!JP*ODExMzcwMg.MTM0NDYzODA)NA

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                There simply is no proof. If china were to ever attack Japan they'd be dealing with 100+ F-35s alone and that'd render their air force useless, their navy is horrifically bad, plus Japan would have the economic and military support of the entire west, without wishy-washy politics getting in the way.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >... Is what I would say if I were fiercely delusional
              Is what I would say if I were fiercely delusional

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Beijing alone would frick up japan, have you seen the typical nip? All of china vs japan would look like the germans vs the key west At least the chinese are bigger than middle schoolers even if they are a bit moronic

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >the chinese are bigger than middle schoolers
          Eh, not really.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      China would destroy Japan.

      Unfortunately China would win. China is very much industrialized now and much larger than japan. However japan is not alone. Alone, Japan would lose. But there isn’t any hope of China fighting japan alone. China would be fighting the U.S as well because any attack on japan would involve destroying U.S military assets in and around the home islands. Either way, something like that would never happen.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Lol china vs japan would look like the us versus puerto rico without all of the humanitarianism that the us would give towards the islanders

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yes and this time Nanjing won't be completely fabricated too.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            If the US were to theoretically leave the pacific theatre japan would spread cheeks tomorrow to become another chinese province, ironically they hate the us more than china...don't believe me? ask any grassroots jap after a few drinks if you can speak fluent japanese, they won't trust you if you can't

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              This post is correct and I am demoralized. But the so-called massacre at Nanjing is still completely made up and pure ex-post propaganda.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >ironically they hate the us more than china...don't believe me? ask any grassroots jap after a few drinks if you can speak fluent japanese, they won't trust you if you can't
              One of the worst LARPs I have read on this site.
              Hey, you're fluent in Japanese right? Let's play a game. Tell me how you phrased the question to them. This should be good.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              In this hypothetical, have Chinese vassals refrained from firing missiles directly over Japan and into its EEZ for years?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Lol just trust us bros these polls are legit and not a psyops, do you even know any real japanese? Can you find a single japanese that has any bad feels for chinese people?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                would you be so kind as to post the legitimate china sponsored poll?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                anon,
                >Can you find a single japanese that has any bad feels for chinese people?
                was a bit of a givaway, don't you think?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                in my defense there is an autistic bug attempting to make that exact argument in this thread

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The collapse and near extinction of US commercial ship building is a strategic problem. Commercial shipbuilding represents surge capacity for a war. Starting with virtually no facilities and no skilled labor means it will take years to stand up capacity.

    Meanwhile, China produces twice as much military tonnage per year and literally over 100 times more commercial tonnage, almost more than the rest of the world combined.

    It is indeed a long term problem. It is not currently an existential threat because the US still maintains a huge tonnage advantage and qualitative advantage and the other big ship builders are all US allies. But two of those allies are near China, so years from now a war might mean losing access to those ports.

    It would take decades to rebuild US shipbuilding and running at a loss, so it would be wise to start now, but it seems extremely doubtful.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Careful not to take it

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      no one reply to this because it's true

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The USN doesn't build new ships as fast as the chinks because it's already a massive fleet and that requires maintaining, which eats up drydock time and cash.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      no one reply to this because it's true

      >We make many low quality ship to match the few high quality ship
      >What, they all sink after single missile strike and their catapults launch planes into the sea? How could this be?
      This is your logic, chink-kun.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        By your logic US ships are too "good" to exist, which is why none are being built anytime soon. Your ships still sink after a single missile strike too, it just depends on what the payload is and how it's delivered

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >On 12 October 2000, while at anchor in Aden for refueling, Cole was attacked by Al-Qaeda suicide bombers, who sailed a small boat near the destroyer and detonated explosive charges.
          >The blast created a hole in the port side of the ship about 40 feet (12 m) in diameter, killing 17 crew members and injuring 39.
          The USS Cole did not sink

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They made some horseshit law that made commercial shipbuilding in the states near impossible.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah, I'm sure China's Wish tier navy whose missiles are fueled with sea water is really a legitimate threat to US and allied naval dominance in the world.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I am John Smith from Texas oblast and am agree. US Navee ass is in the ass.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I am airman rodriguez from PCB florida, and I am now demoralized!

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Ah yes, Chink Spam About Number of Fishing Vessels General #235.

    All of the fishing boats are meaningless (besides causing ecological disaster across the globe) since China never has and never will win a war outside of its own borders, including against the independent nation of Taiwan

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Chinese unable to fathom having allies that would help you.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      lmfao, which one of ~~*our*~~ vassals are we "helping" again?

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The USN is super conservative about who gets to touch their stuff. Today, though, with the public yards in backlog and US civilian yards maxed out — and at least another decade before public yard upgrades come through — they’ve been FORCED to get creative. And, frankly, there’s no issue relying on a reliable ally like Japan for this. I’m positive Japanese yards can satisfy US security requirements. They WON’T be cheap, but oh well — the big man is big because they pay the little man. Could you imagine a ship coming out of a Japanese yard? Probably not even a fleck of rust underneath even one screw.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      One of our super carriers was BUILT. HOMEPORT in japan. I long for the DOMINANCE that the U.S had after WW2.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >I long for the DOMINANCE that the U.S had after WW2.
        Why? I couldn’t care less about the MIC. The Founders literally told us to mind our own business and not get involved in foreign entanglements.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Thomas Jefferson
          >"The Earth belongs always to the living generation. They may manage it then, and what proceeds from it, as they please, during their usufruct. They are masters too of their own persons and consequently may govern them as they please."
          The time of then is not the time of now.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The founders also died two hundred years prior to the invention of the standardised shipping container
          Times have changed, think for yourself and adapt

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >if WW2 was refought with the current Japanese and US ship building capabilities we all would be speaking Japanese instead
    yawn. another one of these threads.
    US shipbuilding capability was jack diddly squat at the beginning of WW2. Wartime production doesn't happen during peacetime. Smoothbrains gonna smooth brain.
    >but whaiy dikd tehy msek more shipses during the wards

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    China has been quietly and urgently running a disinfo campaign against this. In particular, they are running with the “this will take jobs away from american workers” theme. It’s already infiltrated some conservative channels (which they ate it up like the usual dumb fricks we’ve seen in the fifth column wing of the GOP recently).

    t. knower of some stuff

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >“this will take jobs away from american workers”

      This is true though

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Skill Issue.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          That will go over great with the voters!

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No it isn't. Every US mil shipyard is backed up for a decade plus. And if they were ever freed up other countries would actually place orders. I mean we can literally sell every attack sub we are capable of building.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    > every weekend all over japan
    > the number of anti-china protests in japan over the past 50 or so years even comparable to picrel...none

    Another particularly stark uprising recently over the freeing of the us marine that ran over a bunch of japs implicitly under the influence

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Another particularly stark uprising recently over the freeing of the us marine that ran over a bunch of japs implicitly under the influence
      That pic is from Okinawa in 2016.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Now post the number of protests over North Korean antagonism-
      oh wait that's right, everyone knows that no one in North Korea would give a frick about a protest, so there's no point.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Two nukes not enough can't wait until we nuke them again

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >if WW2 was refought with the current Japanese and US ship building capabilities we all would be speaking Japanese instead of English now:
    moron

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *