>YOKOSUKA, Japan, Jan 19 (Reuters) - The United States and Japan are looking to make a deal for Japanese shipyards to regularly overhaul and maintain U.S. Navy warships so they can stay in Asian waters ready for any potential conflict, U.S. Ambassador to Japan Rahm Emanuel said on Friday.
>"China watches what ships are coming in and out. It is not like this is a secret, they know what's happening. So therefore, they take an evaluation of your deterrence," Emanuel told reporters at the Yokosuka naval base near Tokyo.
>Unchallenged in Asian waters for decades, the U.S. Navy faces a growing Chinese navy being built in shipyards that are outpacing U.S. warship production.
How the tables have turned in 80 years, if WW2 was refought with the current Japanese and US ship building capabilities we all would be speaking Japanese instead of English now:
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/us-eyeing-japanese-shipyards-warship-overhauls-says-us-ambassador-2024-01-19/
had to give it away at the end didn't you
What? The fact that the current US ship building capability is laughable? Reminder that the first Constellation class frigate, won't be delivered until 2027 if not later and the DDG(X) until 2030s. The USN is slowly becoming the IJN.
Why would you not utilize Japanese shipyards to maintain ships stationed in Japan? I'm surprised they don't already do this
Because it would be preferable to create a shipyard worthy of the name on Guam, which is US Territory.
Guam is a bit further out of range of Chinese missiles, and a point defense of an island is a lot easier than guessing whether the bugmen are aiming at a city, an airbase, or a shipyard.
It would also help if we hadn’t “elected” enemy agents into policy making positions these past 70 years and had them hollow out our steel industry and shipyard capacity.
Brooklyn Naval Shipyard: Gone
Philly Navsl Shipyard: Gone
Charleston Naval Shipyard: Gone
Mare Island Naval Shipyard: Gone
Those are just Naval shipyards off the top of my head. The list of civilian shipyards that are gone is ridiculously long.
We are governed by traitors. The evidence is before your eyes.
People like you are why red flag laws exist.
It's called capitalism moron. How the frick could the US gov afford to keep a dozen shipyards with zero non government business open? The federal gov takes great pains to keep as many MIC companies open as possible. And yes there are sometimes dangerously few. But what do you want? Us to double the debt we already yVe building ships and planes we don't even need.
Cancel some nig welfare programs, put some actual taxes on the billionaires like we did in the 50s, problem solved.
Every welfare program helps more poor whites than poor blacks. Simply because hey there are wayyyyy more whites than blacks in the USA.
Also lol no, foodstamps are not paying for keeping shipyards airframe builders, and such open forever. Taxing the rich more would help. But the actual biggest robbery of tax payers is corporate taxes being hidden of fricked with using loopholes and tax havens. That's the only way to get a huge chunk of money.
>Every welfare program helps more poor whites than poor blacks. Simply because hey there are wayyyyy more whites than blacks in the USA.
you're wrong, very wrong
Cancelling every single welfare program in the US would come out to a rounding error on the military budget and that's being generous
Social security alone is almost twice as much as the entire defense budget.
Your assertion prompted me to look it up and the US military budget is nearly four times the size of social security.
I will at least concede that that is not a "rounding error"
Non-discretionary spending (welfare) exceeds discretionary spending (military, functions of state, etc.). Its more than half our budget AND we cant adjust it because its NONDISCRETIONARY.
LOL yes we can. We adjust it pretty much every year.
>It would also help if we hadn’t “elected” enemy agents into policy making positions these past 70 years and had them hollow out our steel industry and shipyard capacity.
You dipshit, the American Steel Industry became bloated and inefficent while its East Asian competitors embraced innovation and became more efficent. The shipyards closed due to lack of both government contracts and no commerical contracts (because American shipyards are shit compared to Asian ones). The best thing America can do is remove the Jones Act and allow the US to build naval ships in Allied Shipyards
Don't even try, these fricking autists, are right now over on pol screeching about communists. And over here screeching in this thread about commercial shipyards closing.
End of the cold war and end of history dipshit. You cant reconsider past decisions based on what we know now, we have to consider them based and what the decision maker knew then.
Those bases were closed in the 1990's. Russia was a dump and China wasnt even in the WTO yet.
>Why would you not utilize Japanese shipyards to maintain ships stationed in Japan? I'm surprised they don't already do this
Some things could be done in Japan. 30 years ago a coworker that had been an enlisted aboard the Midway a few years prior was telling me a story of a Japanese being a c**t when the Midway put into Japan and had a minor repair done while there. Seems the crew had discovered one of the flight deck plates was stuck due to corrosion during routine maintenance and was anticipating a multi-day layover (and, more importantly, leave) while the yard in Japan arranged for a crane, etc, to pull the plate up. Coworker ended up talking to the supervisor someway and mentioned that a crane would be needed whereupon the supervisor gave him his best "stupid gaijin" look and detailed his workers to use prybars to get an edge up and put wood shims in the lifted edge and then pour water on the shims. The wood swelled of course and after a while the plate popped up. The supervisor then said something to the effect of dumb Americans always wanting to use brute force instead of brains.
Anyway, point being that Japanese yards were apparently allowed to do some work even decades ago but I don't think they could do anything in engineering or other sensitive areas which is what's being talked about now.
>The supervisor then said something to the effect of dumb Americans always wanting to use brute force instead of brains.
Disrespecting a customer to their face like this is extremely unlike Japanese culture. Maybe this particular supervisor was an butthole or the story is exaggerated but behavior like this is generally looked down upon.
hello sirs!
hello airman!
I think he’s Chinese because he’s mocking US shipbuilding
The US has over twice the floating tonnage of the next runner up. The US has more supercarriers than most countries have warships at all. The last time one of you brownskin navies got uppity, half of your tonnage was sunk in a couple of days. Please try something, I am literally begging you with tears in my eyes. I want snuff kino of watching shitskin or yellow monkey sailors leaping into the ocean while on fire, only to be eaten by sharks.
>The US has over twice the floating tonnage of the next runner up.
For now. Pay attention to your own crew then if you want gore vids. Get missile swarmed
How's life in the British Raj?
How's the weather in Tel Aviv, Goldberg?
Why would an Israeli defend US navy?
>Get missile swarmed
How's that working out in the Red Sea?
What happens then? Will China expand its glorious track record of losing every single land-based military engagement outside of its own borders to also losing every single sea-based military engagement too? Ignore history at your own peril.
>I want snuff kino of watching shitskin or yellow monkey sailors leaping into the ocean while on fire, only to be eaten by sharks.
plz this.
>How the tables have turned in 80 years
True, now the US has way more allies in the Pacific that can support and supplement the US Navy.
Maybe China wouldn't need to do literally everything themselves if they invested more time and effort into making friends instead of enemies.
wolf warrior diplomacy is specifically at odds with making friends. China wants vassals not allies and it's probably a good thing Xi is so moronic.
>wolf warrior diplomacy
Hu Jintao did well enough with his 'peaceful rise" policy before this where people thought China won't stir shit but they were secretly building up a ton of stuff and had a massive pull diplomatically behind the scenes. With Xi however, he just can't help it with his China stronk shit, now the West knows what's up and is actively trying to frick them over, prodding for weakness and shit with Hong Kong, Taiwan, ASML, you name it.
The delicious irony with Xi is that he is fixated with the decline of empires but keeps coming to the wrong conclusions.
Which forces them to pool together.
Friends are less important when you can single handedly carry the entire war by out producing all your opponents.
Anon, which side in WW2 thought they didn't need any friends and could take on the world by themselves?
The side that didn't have the industrial capacity to keep up with the world's top industrial powerhouse at the time which single handedly carried the entire war.
impressive, very nice
lets see paul allens food and energy imports.
They're literally the top producer of wheat in the entire world and now thanks to western sanctions against Russia, all the Russian oil and gas is being sold to China with whom they share a land border, which can't be blockaded by the USN:
https://www.world-grain.com/media/photos/154-world-s-top-wheat-producing-countries
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_wheat_production
production doesn't mean they are meeting demand. For example the US is the number one oil producer now but still consumes more than they produce. China has been a net importer of food since 2004. In fact the US and France are the top two exporters of food to china. Only 1% of food products are imported from Russia.
Importing tons of basedbeans because of your cuisine demands lots of basedproducts doesn't negate the fact that you already have your basics covered with wheat production.
>in large part because the crop is an important source of animal feed for livestock
here's a fun fact about feedstock: most of it is not edible for humans
when people talk about a country needing x amount of feedstock, that's all the parts that humans cannot use. a much smaller percentage of it would actually be useable for people.
Oh, my bad, I didn't realize you were going to bite the bullet and say that the Chinese will accept not eating meat because they can't feed their people and feed animals at the same time.
>With regard to meat products, China has witnessed an astronomical increase in consumption. In 1975, China consumed a mere 7 million tonnes of meat. That figure had grown to 86.5 million tonnes by 2018, making it the largest meat consumer in the world.
>This exploding demand for meat in China can be largely attributed to changing demographics. The emergence of China’s urban middle class has corresponded with a shift away from a grain-oriented diet to an increasingly meat-heavy intake.
>More affluent urban residents have likewise developed an appetite for other resource-intensive foods, such as dairy products.
>Nevertheless, China’s appetite for basedbeans exceeds the production capacity of Brazil and most of the world combined, leaving the US to fill the gap.
no homie, what i'm saying is that china would not actually have the grain capacity to feed itself if it stopped using it as animal fodder.
he's been cherry picking sources and misrepresenting how they fit into the bigger picture of Chinese economics to try and b8 (you)s lel. Everyone living in reality knows the key deterrence against an invasion of Taiwan is how badly china would get shit on economy wise. Especially at a time with all time high youth unemployment. The CCP has always been extremely paranoid about it's own citizens and sees a growing economy as central to it's continued power. Issue is that that is slowing down faster than expected. Not that peter zeihan's famine and collapse in a decade is real, but china is poorly structured and has huge weakspots thanks to globalism. Same as most countries. Add in general CCP moronation and you get an uncomfy spot for them without huge reforms.
Is there anything better than having some beef jerky and cheese on crackers with a glass of red wine?
But China is a rice grain country
I agree. Those calories will simply be replaced by Prayer.
>Between 2003 and 2017, China’s food imports grew from just $14 billion to $104.6 billion. While food exports nearly tripled from $20.2 billion to $59.6 billion over the same period, China increasingly finds itself running a food trade deficit.
>China is also heavily reliant on food imports from other countries. China’s demand for basedbeans has skyrocketed in recent years, in large part because the crop is an important source of animal feed for livestock. From 2000 to 2018, Chinese basedbean imports grew from $2.3 billion to nearly $38.1 billion, leaving China as the world’s largest importer of the legume, by a wide margin.
>Beijing provides massive subsidies to its agricultural industry. In 2018, China paid out $206 billion in agricultural subsidies – nearly twice as much as the EU ($110 billion) and nearly five times as much as the US ($44 billion).
>At the Annual Central Rural Work Conference in 2013, Chinese leaders acknowledged that the country would have to supplement its domestic supply with “moderate imports” in order to meet food security needs.
What is that, statistics for ants?
>15.5% of groundwater is Grade V
Jesus fricking Christ.
Out producing the globe doesnt matter if you cant get the materials to make shit
>Australia still remains by far the top source of iron ore for China, with a 67% share in Jan-Jul 2023. Iron ore imports from Australia to China in Jan-Jul 2023 increased by +4.4% y-o-y to 441.6 mln tonnes
this, people forget how different US industry in the early 20th century and Chinese industry in the early 21st century are. China is a beast of a global economy that America created and maintains. Without access to those global resources none of these impressive numbers would be remotely possible. I wouldn't say its straight back down into Mao era famines but their industrial output would halve or worse overnight without imports.
that chart is weird as shit, so no one was producing steel in the 70s and 80s?
There are countries other than the US and China not represented in the graph my illiterate friend.
How is China going to make steel without American and Australian met coal
Nuclear powered electric arc furnaces
Where are they going to get their carbon from
russia ng
Russia doesn't have met coal either
Excess population.
>Chinese steel
Aight, Ill post it
thank you mr anon
Force the japs to do the work on their dime
They benefit massively from the USN 7th fleet keeping their sea lanes safe
It's only going to get worse as the time goes on. We better hope these chicoms implode like the Soviets did soon or we're fricked.
>china has more shipyards
>send in stealth bombers to blow up shipyards
>china does not have the means to retaliate
>now US has more shipyards
Wow that was hard
By your own graph china will still not have caught up in terms of tonnage by 2040. So, we have 18 years until the PLAN is almost as big as the USN.
>even outsourcing ship repairs
owari da... Americabros... it's over
China seething mad that they don't have friends who will make ships for them like America has.
based Power of Friendship enjoyers
It is fascinating to see the US flag and the rising sun flag side by side, even more fascinating is how widespread the rising sun flag is as official flags of their military's branches.
>U.S. wants Japanese shipyards to help keep warships ready to fight in Asia
No, it wants them to be able to do minor maintenance. For example, see this rusty boi here yeah, we want the nips to be allowed to do some sanding and painting.
Because otherwise, if you want to do some surface maintenance its 5 days sailing to Hawaii or two weeks of sailing to Washington. Dropping a couple hundred grand on fuel and salaries so you can go get some corrosion treatment and redo some wiring is not really cost efficient.
Despite what you may think doing anything more than minor touch up work is not really feasible in active naval stations due to environmental regulations and such. Its also a waste of resources, if the USN has a crew and a working ship they want them to work, not frick around in dock with needleguns and paint.
Honestly at the rates shits going, we should just convince the nips to join the union wholesale
They're going to get over run, we should give them what they want and then swoop in and give them assistance when they require it.
If they succeed they're a valuable ally. If not we have to bail them out again. It's patronizing to talk down at them and tell them they're not allowed to do anything.
You mean chinese you fricking weeb, chinese shipyards are something like 30x capacity of japan, even worst korea is 10x the nips
Gotta hand it to the China shills, trying to make your army seem strong when it was just revealed that most of your missiles are defunct due to ineptitude and/or corruption is a bold strategy.
I'm pretty convinced Japan could solo china if we let it.
China would destroy Japan.
... In the starving game
China has more people, more missiles, more ships and nooks. Japan would be destroyed, in the actual sense of the word.
... Is what I would say if I were fiercely delusional
China would nuke Japan relentlessly, repeatedly and without pause, until Japan surrenders unconditionally. As the only country on earth that has been nuked before, Japan is especially mentally vulnerable to nukes. Afterwards. Japan would be broken up with the top island governed by Russia and the bottom governed by China.
Okay I can't keep up the mocking anymore I feel bad mocking the mentally ill.
Just accept that China > Japan in terms of military capability.
how about you eat gutter oil and die instead chang
you will never defeat horrible japenis basterd pigdog
Stop being moronic. China is huge. Japan is small. There's no way the Japanese can hope to stop China.
>Stop being moronic. China is huge. Vietnam is small. There's no way the Vietnamese can hope to stop China.
japan is slightly larger than germany dipshit, and with a much bigger population too.
china would probably be able to contest a lot of waters, but japan is not easy pickings by any means.
Japan would just get bombed into oblivion.
never ask
>a german their grandparent's profession
>a russian their grandparent's religion
>a chinaman their grandparent's ethnicity
Okay, time to pull off the gloves now and pull out the mother of all analogies..
You're saying Britain could fight off all of Europe.
>Britain fighting multiple peer adversaries
Means
>Japan fighting a near peer adversary
Woah nice analogy moron.
China is Europe times 2. Japan is Britain times what, 0.9? There's no contest here. China would beat Japan and annex it.
every asian country, if it had any brain or sense of self-preservation, would be making nice with China right now, not antagonizing it, or becoming a host for US diplomatic insanity
It only makes sense to ally with China in a world where the US doesn't exist. The US evidently wants to trade with everyone forever. They don't care to change cultures and we've seen that when countries have a choice between the US and the Soviets, they pick the US.
>he US evidently wants to trade with everyone forever. They don't care to change cultures
AHHAHAHAHA
AHHAHAHAHAH
AHAHAHAHAHAH
AHAHHAHAAHAHHA
holy absolute shit
You having that shit ready to go just makes you look like a sino agent/sophist/troll/bot, etc.
Japan, Vietnam, the Philippines; they all see the US as a bunch of pragmatists, while China is a bunch of communists. China seeks to changes countries to be like itself. America seeks trade. Countries that value self determination pick the west every time, because it's always a relationship that's comfortable at arm's length.
>"hahah i got my own shit rammed down my throat, so ill just double down, because saying it makes it so!"
pathetic
youre fricking dancing clown if you think there is anyone who thinks the US ISNT the biggest perpetrator of spreading culture war world wide
its quite literally our biggest export
Japan is on the receiving end of it now
>migrants, anyone?
if I say the word "BBC", im sure the first thing that comes to mind is "Chinese culture war"
amirite!?
boy what a strangely formatted post
i sure do wonder who's behind this one.
>hes nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooticing again
unique IP's die at 39,
all I had to do was stay "on topic" and the noooooooooticer comes in and
>boy what a strangely formatted post
>i sure do wonder who's behind this one.
absolute psychosis^
hey everyone! look at that post formatting!
>bottom chart only goes to 1960
>"GEE willy the US was no joke! mighty eagle even!"
lmfao, why not show the vertical nose dive down in the 70's and vertical line UP of China after?
what is this schizo meltdown
the resident autist is chimping out again and janny hasn't caught up yet
i guessed right lmao, foiled again helmettard.
in case any of you want to see he's having a meltdown over at
right now.
>i sure do wonder who's behind this one.
Jews/eastern shill farms
>that chart is weird as shit, so no one was producing steel in the 70s and 80s?
Japan, Germany, South Korea, Taiwan, and the USSR you stupid monkey Black person.
>if I say the word "BBC", im sure the first thing that comes to mind is "Chinese culture war"
????
And a very good ching chong ding dong to you too Mr. Xiang
Not him but China isn’t the one going around telling countries to take in millions of shitskins because muh diversity. Chinese politicians aren’t the ones saying men can’t get pregnant.
And yet the world still basically flocks towards US hegemony outside of the chinks and vatniks. You notice how most of SEA and other countries around West Taiwan are increasing US aligned? It's almost like the alternative is far worse or something....hmm...
You can complain about culture war shit all you want. The irony being you have the ability to do so. Talk shit about the powers that be in RU and CN and you disappear or suffer a heart attack while falling from a 6 story hotel.
Yeah, instead in Freedumbland israeli billionaires dox you, get you kicked out of university, blacklisted, and potentially charged with hate crimes (which carry either a prison sentence or a fine).
You can say anything you want unless you call for active violence. People do this everyday. You can find dozens of articles of people saying anti israeli stuff. None of them go to jail in the US.
>you can say anything you want unless you criticize israel
FTFY
Post any proof, schizo
How about all the college kids that literally got dox’d, kicked out of school and blacklisted from jobs by a israeli billionaire?
Post proof
Given how apparently common and outrageous this sort of behaviour is you must at least be able to provide us with the name of someone who has experienced this?
Or did those dastardly israelites erase them from existence as well?
Have you ever noticed how the millions of refugees all want to go to western countries instead of China, despite China being just as desperate for working age immigrants (if not more so) than the west?
Have you ever wondered why that happens?
>You guys don't understand
>if you live in the west, you might see a homosexual
>this is literally the worst possible thing that could EVER happen to a person
>Far, FAR worse than living under a repressive dictatorship where even something as basic as trying to form a workers union is enough to get you tortured and killed
>John F. Kirby (born June 3, 1963) is a retired United States Navy rear admiral
so a literal who
>first post is relatively well formatted and punctuated English
>by the second reply same “person” is spouting incoherent ESL babble
Every fricking time with this shit.
Whoops, meant
That has already happened more than once in the last few hundred years alone
USSR was frickhuge, but USA was able to put a stop to it. Japan can do the same to China, but easier.
When the jap general got killed in the helicopter crash last year chink social media blew up laughing, heard they throw parties everytime jap has another earthquake savoring the jap suffering
it's the result of japanese superiority over china, chinks are extremely jealous of japanese success and thus celebrate every time something goes wrong for them.
I was thinking the whole “invade our country and slaughter millions of our people” thing had something to do with it.
Nanking never happened though, it was just war
Weeb detected
Yes but most japs today had nothing to do with what happened almost a century ago yet they are still treated like shit by 1/5 of the global population in one country alone and this is excluding the chuds in the west that think arr rook same
There’s a part jap dude in our social group, quiet but nice guy but turbomanlet, gets bullied relentlessly by the chinks, flips and pajeets, most of lowkey feel bad for him but too much effort to do anything about it
Yes, that (and the reputation the nips earned from it) is indeed the success being referred to here
>Stop being moronic. Russia is huge. Ukraine is small. There's no way the Ukrainians can hope to stop Russia
The amount of territory Russia still holds is equal or greater than the area of Japan, no? It follows that China would conquer all of Japan and Japan wouldn't have any territory left, if all things were equal.
https://www.thetruesize.com/#?borders=1~!MTQ5ODIzODc.MTIxOTkxMzc*MjYxNTM4NjI(MTc3OTEwNjk~!JP*ODExMzcwMg.MTM0NDYzODA)NA
There simply is no proof. If china were to ever attack Japan they'd be dealing with 100+ F-35s alone and that'd render their air force useless, their navy is horrifically bad, plus Japan would have the economic and military support of the entire west, without wishy-washy politics getting in the way.
>... Is what I would say if I were fiercely delusional
Is what I would say if I were fiercely delusional
Beijing alone would frick up japan, have you seen the typical nip? All of china vs japan would look like the germans vs the key west At least the chinese are bigger than middle schoolers even if they are a bit moronic
>the chinese are bigger than middle schoolers
Eh, not really.
Unfortunately China would win. China is very much industrialized now and much larger than japan. However japan is not alone. Alone, Japan would lose. But there isn’t any hope of China fighting japan alone. China would be fighting the U.S as well because any attack on japan would involve destroying U.S military assets in and around the home islands. Either way, something like that would never happen.
Lol china vs japan would look like the us versus puerto rico without all of the humanitarianism that the us would give towards the islanders
Yes and this time Nanjing won't be completely fabricated too.
If the US were to theoretically leave the pacific theatre japan would spread cheeks tomorrow to become another chinese province, ironically they hate the us more than china...don't believe me? ask any grassroots jap after a few drinks if you can speak fluent japanese, they won't trust you if you can't
This post is correct and I am demoralized. But the so-called massacre at Nanjing is still completely made up and pure ex-post propaganda.
>ironically they hate the us more than china...don't believe me? ask any grassroots jap after a few drinks if you can speak fluent japanese, they won't trust you if you can't
One of the worst LARPs I have read on this site.
Hey, you're fluent in Japanese right? Let's play a game. Tell me how you phrased the question to them. This should be good.
In this hypothetical, have Chinese vassals refrained from firing missiles directly over Japan and into its EEZ for years?
Lol just trust us bros these polls are legit and not a psyops, do you even know any real japanese? Can you find a single japanese that has any bad feels for chinese people?
would you be so kind as to post the legitimate china sponsored poll?
anon,
>Can you find a single japanese that has any bad feels for chinese people?
was a bit of a givaway, don't you think?
in my defense there is an autistic bug attempting to make that exact argument in this thread
The collapse and near extinction of US commercial ship building is a strategic problem. Commercial shipbuilding represents surge capacity for a war. Starting with virtually no facilities and no skilled labor means it will take years to stand up capacity.
Meanwhile, China produces twice as much military tonnage per year and literally over 100 times more commercial tonnage, almost more than the rest of the world combined.
It is indeed a long term problem. It is not currently an existential threat because the US still maintains a huge tonnage advantage and qualitative advantage and the other big ship builders are all US allies. But two of those allies are near China, so years from now a war might mean losing access to those ports.
It would take decades to rebuild US shipbuilding and running at a loss, so it would be wise to start now, but it seems extremely doubtful.
Careful not to take it
no one reply to this because it's true
The USN doesn't build new ships as fast as the chinks because it's already a massive fleet and that requires maintaining, which eats up drydock time and cash.
>We make many low quality ship to match the few high quality ship
>What, they all sink after single missile strike and their catapults launch planes into the sea? How could this be?
This is your logic, chink-kun.
By your logic US ships are too "good" to exist, which is why none are being built anytime soon. Your ships still sink after a single missile strike too, it just depends on what the payload is and how it's delivered
>On 12 October 2000, while at anchor in Aden for refueling, Cole was attacked by Al-Qaeda suicide bombers, who sailed a small boat near the destroyer and detonated explosive charges.
>The blast created a hole in the port side of the ship about 40 feet (12 m) in diameter, killing 17 crew members and injuring 39.
The USS Cole did not sink
They made some horseshit law that made commercial shipbuilding in the states near impossible.
Yeah, I'm sure China's Wish tier navy whose missiles are fueled with sea water is really a legitimate threat to US and allied naval dominance in the world.
I am John Smith from Texas oblast and am agree. US Navee ass is in the ass.
I am airman rodriguez from PCB florida, and I am now demoralized!
Ah yes, Chink Spam About Number of Fishing Vessels General #235.
All of the fishing boats are meaningless (besides causing ecological disaster across the globe) since China never has and never will win a war outside of its own borders, including against the independent nation of Taiwan
>Chinese unable to fathom having allies that would help you.
lmfao, which one of ~~*our*~~ vassals are we "helping" again?
The USN is super conservative about who gets to touch their stuff. Today, though, with the public yards in backlog and US civilian yards maxed out — and at least another decade before public yard upgrades come through — they’ve been FORCED to get creative. And, frankly, there’s no issue relying on a reliable ally like Japan for this. I’m positive Japanese yards can satisfy US security requirements. They WON’T be cheap, but oh well — the big man is big because they pay the little man. Could you imagine a ship coming out of a Japanese yard? Probably not even a fleck of rust underneath even one screw.
One of our super carriers was BUILT. HOMEPORT in japan. I long for the DOMINANCE that the U.S had after WW2.
>I long for the DOMINANCE that the U.S had after WW2.
Why? I couldn’t care less about the MIC. The Founders literally told us to mind our own business and not get involved in foreign entanglements.
>Thomas Jefferson
>"The Earth belongs always to the living generation. They may manage it then, and what proceeds from it, as they please, during their usufruct. They are masters too of their own persons and consequently may govern them as they please."
The time of then is not the time of now.
The founders also died two hundred years prior to the invention of the standardised shipping container
Times have changed, think for yourself and adapt
>if WW2 was refought with the current Japanese and US ship building capabilities we all would be speaking Japanese instead
yawn. another one of these threads.
US shipbuilding capability was jack diddly squat at the beginning of WW2. Wartime production doesn't happen during peacetime. Smoothbrains gonna smooth brain.
>but whaiy dikd tehy msek more shipses during the wards
China has been quietly and urgently running a disinfo campaign against this. In particular, they are running with the “this will take jobs away from american workers” theme. It’s already infiltrated some conservative channels (which they ate it up like the usual dumb fricks we’ve seen in the fifth column wing of the GOP recently).
t. knower of some stuff
>“this will take jobs away from american workers”
This is true though
Skill Issue.
That will go over great with the voters!
No it isn't. Every US mil shipyard is backed up for a decade plus. And if they were ever freed up other countries would actually place orders. I mean we can literally sell every attack sub we are capable of building.
> every weekend all over japan
> the number of anti-china protests in japan over the past 50 or so years even comparable to picrel...none
Another particularly stark uprising recently over the freeing of the us marine that ran over a bunch of japs implicitly under the influence
>Another particularly stark uprising recently over the freeing of the us marine that ran over a bunch of japs implicitly under the influence
That pic is from Okinawa in 2016.
Now post the number of protests over North Korean antagonism-
oh wait that's right, everyone knows that no one in North Korea would give a frick about a protest, so there's no point.
Two nukes not enough can't wait until we nuke them again
Reminder
>if WW2 was refought with the current Japanese and US ship building capabilities we all would be speaking Japanese instead of English now:
moron