380 SMG that weighs 33 ounces and fits in a cargo pocket
This will be for my irl elven decker build
2 years ago
Anonymous
>James is shadowrun fan
Sir, PLEASE stop being based. I had already made up my mind that you are suppose to be a homosexual and you are NOT helping me.
James is infinitely better than grandthumb. He stays an anon and passes good info on here.
This guy is a dildo. His "testing" isn't testing...it's deliberate abuse of a firearm.
In what scenario does he foresee the need to fire 10 full mag tubes of 12 gauge buckshot as fast as you can pull the trigger and reload?
Dude..if thats your situation, buy a mortar!
That's not how shotguns, even tacticool ones, are used.
This kind of guy would jump in a brand new car and drive it full throttle, balls to the walls nonstop from coast to coast and back, and when the vehicle broke, he'd declare it a POS.
Here he is, shooting birdshot and "eco-friendly" homosexual rounds through a brand new semi-auto when it's Gospel that you break such guns in with heavy loads.
Oh yeah...you also use GUN OIL on guns. WD-40 is not really lubricant, and isn't formulated for firearms use.
That SDS Turkelli will work just fine if it's broken in properly, lubed correctly, and used rationally.
Yeah WD40 was dumb because its somewhat of a solvent. But it doesn't change the fact the gun is shit, and you're a roach.
Your video made me feel better about dropping 2k on a real Benelli.
I wouldn't have bought a Turknelli even if it was better than the real thing because I fricking hate roaches, but I still like to have my biases confirmed.
If you are a Benellibro then please post a photo of your M4's gas port, preferably with calipers so we can get a nice precise measurment. I will do the same with an AKSA Turkelli M4. The undergassing shown in the video is unbelievable.
This guy is a dildo. His "testing" isn't testing...it's deliberate abuse of a firearm.
In what scenario does he foresee the need to fire 10 full mag tubes of 12 gauge buckshot as fast as you can pull the trigger and reload?
Dude..if thats your situation, buy a mortar!
That's not how shotguns, even tacticool ones, are used.
This kind of guy would jump in a brand new car and drive it full throttle, balls to the walls nonstop from coast to coast and back, and when the vehicle broke, he'd declare it a POS.
Here he is, shooting birdshot and "eco-friendly" homosexual rounds through a brand new semi-auto when it's Gospel that you break such guns in with heavy loads.
Oh yeah...you also use GUN OIL on guns. WD-40 is not really lubricant, and isn't formulated for firearms use.
That SDS Turkelli will work just fine if it's broken in properly, lubed correctly, and used rationally.
>This guy is a dildo. His "testing" isn't testing...it's deliberate abuse of a firearm.
> In what scenario does he foresee the need to fire 10 full mag tubes of 12 gauge buckshot as fast as you can pull the trigger and reload?
> Dude..if thats your situation, buy a mortar! > That's not how shotguns, even tacticool ones, are used.
> This kind of guy would jump in a brand new car and drive it full throttle, balls to the walls nonstop from coast to coast and back, and when the vehicle broke, he'd declare it a POS.
> Here he is, shooting birdshot and "eco-friendly" homosexual rounds through a brand new semi-auto when it's Gospel that you break such guns in with heavy loads. > > Oh yeah...you also use GUN OIL on guns. WD-40 is not really lubricant, and isn't formulated for firearms use.
> That SDS Turkelli will work just fine if it's broken in properly, lubed correctly, and used rationally.
I don't know, and not do I care about Old World feuds among inbred mudpeople.
That shotgun is a tool. It is being deliberately misused, and when it cannot function at 100% while being abused, the smug cum-guzzler performing this "test" gets all butthurt and throws the tool downrange like a spoiled little girl throwing a tantrum.
Where the gun was made is far less important than what kind of person is behind the trigger.
The gun its impersonating CAN be deliberately abused and run without a hiccup. This gun clearly fails to meet the standards it set for itself by claiming itself comparable to a gun famous for standing up to the worst abuse imaginable.
>It is being deliberately misused, and when it cannot function at 100% while being abused,
Except non-turkshit guns can take that all day without issue. An afternoon of shooting trap will put more stress on a gun.
If you think that comparison was fair you're actually moronic. Also, the only gun out of many i've owned to completely shit the bed on me was a mossberg 500. After about 1k rounds it would light strike 19/20 shells even after reinserted for a 2nd try. Fricking had to pull out a washer from the bolt carrier group
Are you serious?
Water Displacement formula 40
It is not a fricking lubricant as much as people seem to think it is. Want to oil your bicycle chain with wd40 , whatever but you do not "oil" a fricking firearm with water displacement 40
>In what scenario does he foresee the need to fire 10 full mag tubes of 12 gauge buckshot as fast as you can pull the trigger and reload?
Oh no I have to shoot my gun a whole 60 times. That’s too much abuse
What the frick is this cope you pathetic homosexual? I've used WD40 as lubricant and cleaner for my firearms for years before switching to Ballistol. I've ran tons of guns without any lube as well. Glocks, AR15, VZ58, AKM, they will absolutely work without lube.
Also, I own a Benelli M1 super 90, I could fire 10k rounds in a row without any lube, and it would still would not have any kind of failure, regardless of the ammo used.
Turkish guns are shit, deal with it.
>'ve used WD40 as lubricant and cleaner for my firearms for years before switching to Ballistol<
I've got news for you. You won't like it.
You've been lubing incorrectly for years.
Yes, I know...we should all just ignore legions of metallurgists and machinists and armorers and material scientists and all of their experience and advice and direction over decades and instead listen to your internet-anon FuddLore, right?
Hey, if WD-40 was so adequate, why did you switch to Ballistol?
ballistol isnt even good at preventing wear on project farms video when they did the bearing scraping test it scored the shit out of it compared to clp or the other oils
Jesus Christ, get a load of this redditspaced cope that completely ignores that the gun didn't get through 2 or 3 mag tubes of premium ammo before jamming up.
I'll try to get on here and respond to you incels individually when I get back from dinner with Carl Brugger.
Is the new big announcement from beretta in january the new arx100 or their weird hybrid ar15 rifle that they make only for the italian SF operators that was leaked in a brochure?
Does it at least sound like a laser gun? https://youtu.be/pcaI-sRFGb4?t=5
https://i.imgur.com/BTBZHQ0.jpg
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Something about that pic looks so off; something about the pic, at first glance, makes it look way smaller than it is. Like it shoots .22lr rat shot or something. Or am I just crazy?
Iprobably cuz the stock was in middle position and it's got an 11 inch handguard and the photo is at an angle
2 years ago
Anonymous
I think it was a mix of that and the blur at the edges of the photo. Maybe the table, too. But now I'm thinking about a brushed/bead blasted stainless 10/22 "garden gun" (smoothbore shot only) that has a chassis and furniture made to look like your Benelli. If I had stupid amounts of money and time I'd do it because garden guns are underappreciated. Can't imagine it ever cycling, though.
2 years ago
Anonymous
use ratshot, a spring from a pen might be enough for the recoil. hell if you get a frickload of cash do it and buy a 2mm kolibri as well to arm gnomes with
>I didn't ignore it, Newton. It was irrelevant. >It's completely normal for a brand new semi-auto shotgun to have quite a few FTFs and FTEs until it's broken in. >And "woodpeckering" a dry semi is NOT how you break it in. >Use heavy loads, wet the action with GUN OIL, and then start making deliberate aimed shots. A LOT of them. >Have you never done ANY machining? In essence, breaking in a gun is a form of machining. >You use the correct lube or cutting fluid at the correct speed depending on the metal you're working. >And again, you are more likely to grow a penis out of your forehead than you are to ever need to go "mad minute" with a shottie. >Got a 5 round tube with one in the chamber? >You've got three double-taps or two triples. That's how you actually use a gauge...not psycho-blasting.
The Benelli M4, the gun this Turkshit is trying to clone, CAN do just fine going "psycho blasting" through multiple tubes as fast as possible. Therefore, this Turkshit fails as a clone, because it CAN'T do something the gun its pretending to be CAN.
SDS already conceded that the gun has something wrong with it so I don't get why you are white knighting so hard for them. I think I was more than generous with my allowing a little bit of break in but every other shotgun I've tested got the same treatment and even the BAT S-Max ran flawlessly until it kicked the bucket after 400 rounds.
Again you seem really angry about this for some reason. Even if you were correct (pro tip: you're not), if you want to buy a shotgun that needs to have distilled sperm whale oil and needs a hokey pokey of a break in routine, go ahead. My opinion is exactly 'frick that' but that's your personal financial decision and nothing to get mad at me about my Turkish friend.
So he bought a gun that the manufacturer had already admitted has defects and then fault it when it doesn withstand this ridiculous and unrealistic "test"?
You're not helping your case here.
All I needed to know about this "test" and the mentality of the person conducting was summed up when he threw the piece downrange like a little b***h.
The problems were not souch with the piece as with the rest and the person conducting it.
He might have redeemed himself had he done a breakdown of the piece and tried to determine WHAT was causing the stoppages, but I guess an honest post-action forensic analysis wouldn't be as good a 'tube as throwing the gun downrange, huh?
I've done machining and metalwork for over 30 years, and anyone that would treat a tool or a machine like that, is out in the street corner holding his dick in his hand on the same day.
And someone without the honest curiosity to determine the "why" of a mechanical failure is not someone whose judgments or conclusions I trust.
By the way...I'm not Turkish. Too bad, because that seems to have been the only argument you had left.
Star Wars Episode IV a New Cope
You have bested me with your arguments, I yield.
Anyways here's my jackass cameraman at the JFK Delta Sky Club rn
2 years ago
Anonymous
that black lady isn't impressed by his physique
2 years ago
Anonymous
If you were paid, could you be MORE of a Passive Aggressive b***h
Sad fact is that the commenters on that tube have more knowledge and better tips than the video itself.
Video Expert: "REEEEEE!!! Turkinelli beez SHIT!" (throws gun into mud).
Video commenters: Goes and pucks up gun, disassembles and inspects it, cleans it, lubes it up with GUN OIL. Sees a small defect that costs $20 and a bit of elbow grease to fix, and then keeps the gauge for the next 25 years firing it every other week.
Who beez the dummy?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Sees a small defect that costs $20 and a bit of elbow grease to fix
how is that remotely acceptable in 2022
2 years ago
Anonymous
By paying about $300 for a gun that looks like a $2000 gun...
2 years ago
Anonymous
PSA blows up
Turkshit runs when it runs
LMT out of spec
AUG stocks cracking under 1k rounds
Sig stuff blowing up
We're beta testers unfortuantly. As a consooooomer you hold the company acountable or learn GON SMIF
2 years ago
Anonymous
>PSA, LMT, AUG, SIG
How are those relevant?
Benelli, the company the Turkshit is ripping off, makes excellent guns that work without taking fricking power tools to them.
>he bought a gun that the manufacturer had already admitted has defects
I'd guess they reached out to him after the video and said "whoops lol a lemon.. that doesn't happen a lot"
2 years ago
Anonymous
Emails to my manager, Kelsey, and they responded to the pinned comment in the video.
https://i.imgur.com/nsXDmEm.png
james this isn't related to the thread at all but your behavior on this cave painting forum has changed my opinion of you. I now think you're pretty cool, a class act, actually. keep up the good work and stay based.
Yeah I revile most people at first. It took a long time to get past. It's a negative trait from my pre-natal character build.
2 years ago
Anonymous
*repulse. Sorry, having a stroke.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Is Hop a nephilim?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Hop and I had a thing a few years back before he started transitioning. Used to be kind of cute. Now he’s too feminine for my tastes. Damn I miss that sweet, sweet boy pussy.
2 years ago
Anonymous
you're a hoot Sir James.
2 years ago
Anonymous
nah i think it was just my growing negative opinions on most guntubers hitting you with splash through little fault of your own, hit hop as well but I gave his content a better chance and eventually warmed up to him too. you're both making fair value determinations on the hardware you cover and its useful to me. you both also follow the golden rule of not wasting my time with lazily padded videos.
another thing is I've been salty about not having a PCC I like yet so when I saw people enjoying 2k buck blowbacks that nearly have the features I want I get triggered, sorry.
Good, Brugger is the man. Went to his favorite restaurant which was pretty casual. Got weinerschnitzel which is of course just a fancy euro chicken tender. He paid with a thousand Franc bill and the Waitress thought it was fake.
it is though. beating a cutlet with a hammer doesn't make it a separate thing deserving of its own name. oh wow you smacked it a few times before breading it, TOTALLY DIFFERENT now
2 years ago
Anonymous
We're not friends anymore
2 years ago
Anonymous
>beating a cutlet with a hammer doesn't make it a separate thing deserving of its own name
I mean, schnitzel just means cutlet. It's not always even breaded. But when they do bread it with the horseradish and the red cabbage with sweet vinegar, it does become a thing of beauty.
The Mossberg 500 (along with the 88 and the 590) is famously durable.
This is on a pump shotgun which are also usually pretty rugged.
Really, I prefer the pump gun over the semi partly for that reason.
I put 1000 shells through my 1301 in one day as fast as I could load it. Quad loading so faster than James. Weekend after I was in a comp. Didn’t clean it zero malfunctions. And 1 to 1.2 k shells before I tore it down again zero malfunctions stop buying Turkish shite
I got one when they came out and I absolutely love mine. Thousands of shells through it with few issues, although I did find a steel base shit tier target load that didn't cycle reliably. It is a better deal than other Turk semi auto shotguns in that it is a direct copy of an existing design and accepts most parts from it, so you have availability of spare and aftermarket parts (granted, very expensive ones) if you want to upgrade or replace something.
Quality however is still Turkish. It really depends on what you happen to get. Mine must have been made on a Tuesday so it's been excellent and I would 100% bet my life on it, but I cannot on good conscience guarantee that anybody else buying one will get the same results. You are rolling the dice, although at 1/5 the price of a genuine Benelli it is viable to take that dice roll and hope you don't get snake eyes twice in a row. Better yet if you can buy one from a distributor that takes returns/refunds/exchanges then that could be a good way to roll the dice a few times till you get one that is solid.
What specific brand was it? Like he said, they're probably all from the same place, but who knows; might buy one some day. Also, when the FRICK is that Alof's mag break open Turk shotgun being imported?
I'm sure Canik are very nice. My LGS best man owns one, he's absolutely antiroach in political terms, as I aml btw, but he still says Canik are great for the price and surprisingly good for turkish stuff.
I've see a lot of Turk guns break from just normal shooting. Sucks because I've really wanted the M3 clone for years. Can't justify spending $1k + on a damn shotgun, but also can't risk the receiver cracking within the first hundred rounds. Seems like there's no in between options.
I have over 100k liquid in the bank and would still never spend more than 1k on a gun. I like guns too. But you don't make/save that much money by making poor financial decisions. A gun isn't worth that much, it's not new or difficult technology (unless you're Turkish). Plus, while on the topic of the M4, you could literally just get a tried and true Mossberg 930 for a fraction of the price. Anyone rolling the dice with a Turkish crap copy is financially moronic. The M3 is the real temptation, there isn't anything like it other than the SPAS12 and the Turkshit clone. Obviously the Turkshit is the only reasonably priced option for a pump/semi hybrid.
This isn't even me but at 30 years old I don't even feel like that's a lot of money. I still can't buy a house comfortably. It took me 10 years of working to save this much, so it'll take another 20 to get to 300k. 30 years of working for a fricking 300k house, which doesn't exist anymore. That's fricking slavery.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Jesus, that sucks. I bought a place right out of uni with the VA home loan at mid 20s I plan on renting out in a couple of years when I get a house.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Cause it's not much at all. In 5 years I've spent more than that on just my two kid's schooling.
2 years ago
Anonymous
My situation exactly. More and higher degrees than 90% of my countrymen, with a job that pays more than 85% of my countrymen. Still can't buy a home for my family.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Where do you live?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Decaying western Yureup.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>so it'll take another 20 to get to 300k. 30 years of working for a fricking 300k house
Black person you realize you don’t pay for it all up front right? You can put as little as 3% down assuming you have the cash flow to make monthly payments. At 20% down you don’t have any PMI which is another $40-80 a month to your mortgage. Do you not have $10k-30k saved?
2 years ago
Anonymous
What do you think average people do, buy houses in full with cash? Mortgages exist for a reason. If you have 100k you can afford a 60k down payment which would be 20% on a 300k home. That's a strong offer and you won't have to pay PMI. Your monthly payment on a 30 year would be like $1500 a month, if even that high. I have to imagine if you can save 100k you can afford that.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Man I’m against mortgages as much as the next goy but you sure are one dumb Black person. It’s a miracle someone with such little financial literacy can manage to attain $1,000 let alone $100,000.
This isn't even me but at 30 years old I don't even feel like that's a lot of money. I still can't buy a house comfortably. It took me 10 years of working to save this much, so it'll take another 20 to get to 300k. 30 years of working for a fricking 300k house, which doesn't exist anymore. That's fricking slavery.
Cause it's not much at all. In 5 years I've spent more than that on just my two kid's schooling.
It's not that it isn't believable that he has 100K. It's that anyone with the financial sense to save that money would actually believe that $1000+ is too much to spend on a toll they aren't buying with extreme frequency that is also their hobby they indulge in, even if not just on occasion. Especially with the dollar becoming more and more useless.
I truly believe OP has 100k, I'm just telling him it's not much. Shit, between mortgage, kids, all that shit, I'm out almost 70k a year for that shit alone. So it sucks for anon that he spent 10 years saving up for what I almost spend in a year, but I'm also Director of facilities at a very very large business, so I can afford my life style, just like the OP, I don't spend much money on guns at all.
I used to be into the hobby of buying guns. Some of you need to realize that that's your hobby. You obsess over little differences between various guns and then the ultimate high of your hobby us actually buying the gun and holding it around the house and shit and juat being like "cool I own this." I used to be the same way. I sold all the guns I didn't need. I now only have a few different sized handguns and a few role rifles, and one shotgun. If I buy a new shotgun, I'm selling the old one. There isn't any point to having two shotguns, hust pick one you think is the best for you and be done with it. When your hobby evolves into actually training for gunfights and combat, you don't give a shit how many guns you own. You'd rather own less and become a master with what you own. Having two shotguns will just lead to manual of arms confusion during training. The reason for not spending over 1k is because guns simply aren't worth that. You can get about the same thing for less, again compare the Mossberg 930 to the Benelli m4. The Benelli doesn't do anything the Mossberg can't except make you look rich and cool on forums. If you want me to think you're cool you're going to have to show me your training records not your toys.
I've actually spent $1200 on a Czech VZ58 pistol, but this is because I'm a huge slavshit nerd and it was the perfect gun for my imagined roll of a PDW that can conceal under a jacket. I justified it however because I made so much profit off of selling my unneeded guns, that the damn thing was probably free if not severely discounted by the amount of profit I had left over. If you're REALLY into one type of gun, go ahead and splurge. If hunting game was my thing, I wouldn't fret much over spending 1k+ on a top of the line bolt action. If I was into shooting birds or just had an obsession with shooting shotguns, maybe 1k. It's still odd because shotguns are usually so cheap. But these imagined role guns, don't bother wasting so much money on them, it's not smart. You just blew over 1k on your LARPing hobby. Invest in formal training instead and I guarantee your loadout and philosophy on guns is going to change when you see how they're actually used.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>It's still odd because shotguns are usually so cheap
depends on what you are getting it for, but guns for sporting clays can get pricey, fast.
I don't run around pretending I'm opfor. I hunt, and different shotguns and rifles do serve different purposes for me. A shotgun that's best for a day of upland hunting and hiking isn't the same shotgun I'd use for knocking a pile of dove out of the sky.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I don't run around pretending I'm opfor.
Sad.
2 years ago
Anonymous
This. I want my dad and wife to have fun skeet shooting but i also want to dump 9+ rounds of buckshot or whatever through a target in semi auto 12g, so i buy 2 different shotguns
You must not know a lot of very successful people. Lots get there in no small part by being frugal, for others money is the objective more than it is a means to an end.
Had a real m3 and an m3T. There is a reason why they never became popular. cant fathom buying a clone of one. if you want to drop some cash on a cool gun, get the HK marked import super 90 combat
The folding model(T) sucks. its lop sucks, and youre stuck with the rear sight because its part of the locking mechanism for the stock. if the hybrids what you want , just get a turk m3 clone with the standard stock.
Thats stupid poverty mentality you are lying, according to this statement youd rathef spend 2000 dollars to buy 5 palmetto state armory cheapest 350 kits with an anderson lower all day rather than spend that money on a knights armament corp UPPER, you could use an in spec palmetto, aero, anderson, lower nobody really would give a shit even the people trolling know youre good. What an absolute poverty mentality thing to say.
Anon, I'm gonna assume your telling the truth on this Laotian pottery website. And pls take my warning with a grain of salt.
But I hope you have good car and home insurance and a good lawyer.
All you need is to have an accident with a litigious butthole and your in trouble. >t. not a lawyer but am an office b***h at a firm.
>Can't run target loads
Then it's shit. Almost all of my range trip shotgun ammo is cheap bird or target loads. My LTT1301 has no problem running all ammo types, it looks better than an M4 and I didn't pay such a high price. Only about $400 more than your 3 Turkinelli. Congratulations, you played yourself. If you had stuck to just one, you might have made a good budget option.
But even Mossberg has a great semi auto in the 940JM. You got the Turkinelli clones cause you wanted the M4 look, history and style, but didn't want to pay for the real thing. That's just loser's cope.
Imports stopped in 2008 and boomers charge atleast 800$ but keep an eye on pawnshops and gun stores that regularly get used shotguns sold and bought frequently. You'll get lucky and find one and hopefully it'll be marked to like 289$ or something. Most shops reference Gunjoker for prices tho.
My advice is cope and get something cooler with a rail
Put about 800 shells through mine (50/50 slug and buck shot) and had some issues but it cleared up on its own. Took it home cleaned it good and gave it some lube anon cum lube and took it out again. Did not give me any issues the second time. Its a turk shit shotgun at the end of the day. I like to think of it as "we have benelli m4 at home" type of shotgun
I don't understand the use case. You can buy a Maverick 88 for $250 out the door with a 8 round tube and feed it anything and it'll just run. Or you can buy a 450 Turkshit M4 clone and fight it the entire time.
Thats the thought i had for it, its just a if i like it enough ill buy the real thing. Im not taking the turkey toy seriously, i can afford to have multiple shotguns, this is a toy one.
Basically. You want a cheap shotgun? Buy a mav 88. You want a good pump? Buy a mossberg 500/590. Want a cheap but good semiauto? Buy a mossberg 930. Want a good and decently priced semi? Get a 1301. Want to treat yourself and scratch that gwot itch? Buy a benelli m4
It's very undergassed, maybe the gasport is clogged? I remember chink auto shotguns had burrs were the gasport was drilled which would work better after deburring.
Some poorgay gunsmithing might make it work.
James ur so hot bro what are the dimensions of ur thighs bro i need to know comon bro i need to have ur fat thighs on my face rn so bad bro not in a gay way but like in a bro yeah kinda way
I don't put much stock in reliability videos by this guy or gt anymore. They seem to be pretty vanilla content conduits these days, just send me shit first and let me shoot it on camera, etc, except they are PrepHole flavored. I recently learned the Master of Arms AR-15, featured on tfb, was kind of a vaporware scam, a few units produced, the rest of the deposits stolen and the company put underground. No follow up videos by the gun tubers.
Bullpups have also been this way, the MDR and the Hellion both have qc issues, design flaws or both, yet are sold as "battle tested" or "flaws worked out". They aren't though, and the realization that they aren't has meant the price has come down.
But in the initial days, the Hellion was making a mint for resellers because the hype was believed. But ask yourself, what gun company wouldn't test the model they send to James? If they are a lemon-maker, they will filter out the lemons fron the press model kit. No reliability test should be done that is not an anonymously purchased unit.
But who does this, and more importantly who follows up and admits they got used? None of these guys, because in the end it's more important that they keep spamming out content, and using you.
I'll be sure to put your next mailroom on in the background while I do laundry James, but frick your Patreon and your other lazy content, you have no integrity to me, also you don't generate any memes, just regurgitate them.
TFB TV is one of the only guntube channels worth a shit and their videos are consistently entertaining. James and Hop give educated but simple to understand critiques of the firearms they review while acknowledging biases. Their videos are also easy to watch and funny. It sounds like you got burned after watching a guntuber review a gun and you're lashing out. You also sound autistic.
>TFB TV is one of the only guntube channels worth a shit and their videos are consistently entertaining. James and Hop give educated but simple to understand critiques of the firearms they review while acknowledging biases. Their videos are also easy to watch and funny. It sounds like you got burned after watching a guntuber review a gun and you're lashing out. You also sound autistic.
The fact you find TFB entertaining proves you have a <100 IQ.
James is a a trash pandering fool grifting idiots like yourself
>But ask yourself, what gun company wouldn't test the model they send to James? If they are a lemon-maker, they will filter out the lemons fron the press model kit. No reliability test should be done that is not an anonymously purchased unit.
He literally says in the video they bought it off the rack just as anyone else would. The shotgun company had no idea that particular gun was getting sent to a guntuber for testing.
Yeah he bought the cheap ass turkshit this time. He got the Hellion sent hand picked to him before its USA launch and slobbered over it, then it turned out to suck. At this point a gun sucking looks to me more like lack of marketing infrastructure than the gun sucking.
I should clarify, a gun tuber admitting a gun sucks looks like the gun company lacks marketing infrastructure. Otherwise I think them all terrified to admit something sucks for fear they no longer have access, which is what drives you incels to subscribe.
> But ask yourself, what gun company wouldn't test the model they send to James? If they are a lemon-maker, they will filter out the lemons fron the press model kit. No reliability test should be done that is not an anonymously purchased unit.
Why are you opening your stupid wienersucker on a thread where you didn’t even bother to watch the video it’s referencing? I hope you’re a shill and not this fricking dense.
Damn you lack reading comprehension. And who would I be shilling for, stopping listening to gun tubers? Shilling for saving your money and sticking to what has worked for huge amounts of.customers already?
Basically. You want a cheap shotgun? Buy a mav 88. You want a good pump? Buy a mossberg 500/590. Want a cheap but good semiauto? Buy a mossberg 930. Want a good and decently priced semi? Get a 1301. Want to treat yourself and scratch that gwot itch? Buy a benelli m4
I didn't need James Sneed to tell me turkshit is shit
>Master of arms >No follow up videos
Yeah I don't even remember these mother frickers. I've done literally over one thousand videos and if I talked to someone at SHOT about their $599 Moses Brothers Self-Defense Engine Frontier Model B or some shit I probably forgot about it the next day but I thought you would find it interesting so I made a video about it. >Hellion flaws
The hellion is a cringily named converted VHS made almost exclusively by HS Product and conversion performed by SA. The VHS is a proven design, so I'm not sure this complaint has any basis in reality.
Bro you seem very angry
I passed up on a pre-import ban AUG a few years back and I still regret it. I’ve got a decent job after getting fricked over by covid bullshit for the past couple of years and I want to treat myself to the tune of $2k or round abouts. Which would you recommend, the Hellion or a new manufacture AUG? I’m also a little buy curious about the new century import MEK made MP-5s but am wary of turkshit.
I'm too drunk to be answering this but here goes:
First of all, please only treatchoself if you have all of your financial obligations handled. It's cool to have cool guns but it's cooler to bring a woman back to a house with running water.
That said, If you truly have 2k liquid to blow, I can tell you that Steyr USA is working behind the scenes to bring AUS AUG parts and mods to the states, and I mean more than just rail pieces. I really like the AUG, generally, anyways, but I think we might see some cool shit from them in the future.
The VHS2 (I refuse to call it by its Springfield Armory ebonics name) was way better than I expected but it's heavier and bigger than the Aug, plus you have super tall optics mounting. For the roach MP5, I'm not shitting on Century even though they chug dick but the MKEs they import are supposedly decent. I'd go all the way on the real deal HK instead, and that's such a huge brand premium that I think you'd get more from the pups. I'd consider the MPX or a B&T APC instead for that $.
So, coin toss between VHS and AUG but personal bias, aftermarket support, and sentiment says AUG. I think you'd be happy either way.
Thanks for the feedback. I’ve never watched your videos but you don’t seem like half as much of the homosexual these anons make you out to be. If I may repay the favor, keep a jar of quick pickled ginger in the fridge. It’s very easy to make, a great condiment for food and wienertails, and the brine is like a miracle hangover treatment. Cheers, bud.
>frick those Lithgow wienersuckers for axing the F90 imports
Anon, are you me? I saved up $1.2K hoping to get an Atrax. After half a year of not hearing anything about it, I researched it and saw that Lithgow cancelled its export cause they're homosexuals. Still wanting a bullpup, I weighed the Aug, Tavor and MDRx. I settled on the MDRx just because it was more modern and compatible with features.
Looks like I made the right choice cause the MDRx has a plethora of neat and futuristic furniture options.
james this isn't related to the thread at all but your behavior on this cave painting forum has changed my opinion of you. I now think you're pretty cool, a class act, actually. keep up the good work and stay based.
I bought a Charles Daly before I realized it was made in Turkey then sold it right after I learned. This guns intended purpose was HD and I would never trust my life to turk shit.
I love James-posting. From one James to another, keep up the good work. Your entertainment really makes the poor autists of this board screech, and boy do I love it.
That'd be a pretty stupid thing to lie about for several years. I believe he said he's passed the bar in a few other close-by states as well and says he's a lawyer for USCCA as well (and said he's never lost a case either)
>https://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-09-17/farmers-call-for-ban-of-imported-shotgun/7851508
I'll never understand people who buy guns known to be shit and poor quality.
Could this have happened with an expensive gun? Yes, but the chances are incredibly lower
>all this 930 posting
The 930 really isn't all that reliable/robust without aftermarket modification. In fact they're pretty infamous for mediocre reliability. If you want a semi auto shotgun then save up for a 1301.
I agree, but a 450 dollar gun you can't trust your life too but looks cool to larp with is less of a waste of money than a 700 dollar one you still probably can't trust your life too and doesn't scratch any larp itches you have. Just think it's sort of a why choice.
I still don't understand why you would buy a cheap ass turkshit that WILL shit the bed. Just to scratch an itch? Just get the 1301 or save for a benelli m4. If yoir turkshit has a problem and their infamous warranty leaves you alone what do you do? You buy another and now you have wasted almost 1301 money. Buy a 1301? Now you have wasted your 450 bucks on a 120 dollar guns that the turks spray painted some cerakote on it.
Unironically the only reason to buy turkshit clones is for training on clearing malfunctions or just buy the things that are less likely to frick up like single shot shothuns (just don't shoot 3in mag)
There isn't a situation where cheaping out is the right choice if you value your safety, enjoyement and money.
>birdshot
Too bad it can't even cycle those. Well, at the end of the day I can't teach you good money management, how you use your money is not my problem. But even considering a turk shotgun sure explains why so many people can't afford a 2k gun in 2022.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I didn't say *I* was gonna buy that nasty garbage rod, just saying. This place isn't known for men of taste and cultivated interests. Or financial wisdom, education, personal hygiene, I could go on, but I won't. But I could.
Shotgun is a working gun and just werks should be top priority. It's anguish to miss the first shot and to have the tool betray you at the follow on is more than a person can bear.I would rather have a reliable single shot than a semi that randomly fricked you. There is a whole world of reliable shotguns between the two pricepoints and I would rather have any of them than this.
Turkish weapons are mostly dogshit. That being said, I love my Canik SFX Rival. I'd normally advise you try one out and see what you think, but 2 min into that video... you obv. aren't getting anything similar to a Benelli M4.
a boomer came into my workplace last week with an arcteryx jacket and a fannypack on and i told one of the guys "yeah hes got a 1911 in that pack, id bet any money" guy asked "how could you know that?" i said "the NAVY VETERAN hat, it would be against the code for it to be anything else"
Go to Lavertezzo and jump from the stone bridge. It's a must to do before the water becomes too cold. Last year I jumped without realizing I was carrying and got scared shitless mid flight.
Missed that one. Being from the south I rarely skip an opportunity to jump off of a bridge into liquid. The one in the city was pretty solid though. Drank a few of the shitty Swiss lagers with the blue label and the red castle on them first.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Definetly give it a try next time you're here. It's just 10 or so meter high but still really fun. >The one in the city was pretty solid though
I just hope you didn't swallow any water
wait until you find out that everything you pay for is grossly overpriced once a manufacturer can produce at scale.
I'll pay 400 dollars all day for a flip or turk gun, same reason I used to buy HiPoints before ARs became CHEAPER than a fricking HiPoint. If I have to do some of the fit and finish myself, that is the same situation as buying milslurp which is fine.
literally nobody but actual real life autists do a deep-inspection of every bit of their firearm before firing it.
you buy the gun, you buy the ammo, you shoot the gun, and if a problem happens you fix it. how can you know there's a problem until it pops up?
turk handguns are good, their shotguns are very iffy depending on the brand and model.
my 1911 has never given me issues and is pretty damn accurate too.
>you just gotta break it in right >no woodpeckerin' >just some high brass and a little elbow grease, mhmm. just gotta sand that bolt down with some sand paper. drill another hole in the gas ports >at least a 2000 round break-in period >you kids these days are shootin' too fast now >no psycho blastin' on the range
Watching anyone popular is having whatever the YouTube propagandists want piped directly into your brain. If they didn't want it promulgated they'd just shitcan it.
What do they even achieve by (i guess) sponsoring so many channels? Like what do they get in return? Do they prohibit their "tribe" from doing negative reviews on certain products?
t. james, Steyr's new US marketing guy is younger and is plugged in with the YT cool guy club so that doesn't surprise me. Steyr US has flipped marketing managers more time than any other company I've ever encountered. My visit to Steyr US last year got repeatedly delayed because head of marketing got hired and fired 3 times over that span so we'd have to start from scratch every time. FYI that dude in the videos, Brian Marshall, is the man. I've never met someone so autistically passionate about a single platform in my life. Super, super nice dude, which he would run their marketing department along with the training dept.
Yes, I have a factory tour video and probably ten others in my Beretta hard drive. I'll move that one up just for you, anon. They have perhaps the best plant I've seen. Glock's is really cool but way too sanitary. Beretta's is very people oriented, with live plants throughout the factory (like a canary in a coal mine effect), tons of espresso machines, smoking patios, snack machines, lighting that mimics real daylight, and the factory is split in half by a river. The more I discovered about Beretta and how they engineer guns, manufacture them, and how they treat their employees, the more I like them.
No. I went to Deutsche-Wagrum and met with Josef Kroyer in 2019, who was their then-chief designer. He acknowledges that it's not possible so long as Glock insists on polymer-over-steel mag construction. There's no sign that will ever stop. I've suggested to Glock they consider re-launching the 43 with a 43X-mag compatible frame (this requires only adding 1/10th of an inch to the grip/magwell), but they don't want to a) have 2 SKUs of G43 or b) "abandon" the millions of current G43 owners.
Hey James, just want to know several of your videos are on my HD for my kids to watch in 20 years regarding firearms. So in a way your videos are now one more generation in. Not all of it is fine, though, because shorts above kneeline are gay. Cheers, keep up the good work.
This means a lot to me because this is exactly what I'd like to accomplish. I'm going to see some of the greats die in my lifetime (Clint Smith, Franco Beretta, Gaston Glock, Karl Brugger, Paolo Parola) so I'm trying to preserve that as best I can on YouTube. We also have an auto backup to b***hute, Gunstreamer, and an internal web-based storage in case the world ends.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>He acknowledges that it's not possible so long as Glock insists on polymer-over-steel mag construction.
such a strange hill to die on to lose the segment. like, their mags are great for all their other guns but with bruen the carry pistol market has exploded, I'm actually directly affected, and I was really disappointed to learn my IWB options (without dressing like a fricking idiot) are really just a p365, a g43, or a less comfortable fit with a g26.
like, its a given any new entry in the space will need a new mag, just go with steel one for fricks sake and stop giving ground to sig.
>but they don't want to a) have 2 SKUs of G43
uhg, ok, make it a new model number. >b) "abandon" the millions of current G43 owners.
I understand that worry, but for real, im a g43 owner that's seething over having to abandon the gun for the higher capacity option. I'd much prefer to buy a glonk365 than give money to sig (bigger problem is for some reason I _cannot_ shoot the p365 for shit atm), but the difference between ~6 rounds and 10 is too big to ignore.
i know I'm preaching to the choir. I'm just b***hing. frick.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Glad to know there are backups. Will definately look for more in them.
Hey James, just want to know several of your videos are on my HD for my kids to watch in 20 years regarding firearms. So in a way your videos are now one more generation in. Not all of it is fine, though, because shorts above kneeline are gay. Cheers, keep up the good work.
Yeah BM seems cool but he and the marketing guy are ultimately immaterial.
I think the relevant question who owns Steyr?
also who is L&O Holding or whoever owns Sig?
Based, he's completely right. You get what you pay for. Save your money for one of the "B" brands. Beretta, Benelli, Browning. You will love your shotgun.
>eceleb shit
frick ya mudda
Turkish QC is awful unless they're directly building for a major brand, then it's tolerable.
Jems revs is good, he hangs out here. He's probably OP, in fact. We send him patches and hentai and whatnot.
james actually posts here. he's one of the few based ones
I'm posting rn anon, at 238am in Zurich
New guns from B&T coming
Another 3k 9mm blowback pcc, or a polymer, striker fired 9mm? What a terrible time to be alive.
380 SMG that weighs 33 ounces and fits in a cargo pocket
This will be for my irl elven decker build
>James is shadowrun fan
Sir, PLEASE stop being based. I had already made up my mind that you are suppose to be a homosexual and you are NOT helping me.
B A S E D
Nice ask them if they plan making their folder lower for the brno or any other "new" model.
Hi James, make another mail room you Black person, it's almost September now.
He's okay, he posts here and went on an show with Dugan Ashley even though he was a total schizo at that point.
>mail room you Black person, it's almost September now.
>He doesn't know
lo iq smooof brain
James is infinitely better than grandthumb. He stays an anon and passes good info on here.
Yeah WD40 was dumb because its somewhat of a solvent. But it doesn't change the fact the gun is shit, and you're a roach.
James is /k/'s gay incel father.
hop is our estranged troony sister (male)
>gay incel father.
But he's married, he probably smashes it way more in a year than you have your entire life.
She's also into guns.
cute woman, they have the same jaw structure, probably why they married.
That’s a man
glockshill fingers typed this post
Your video made me feel better about dropping 2k on a real Benelli.
I wouldn't have bought a Turknelli even if it was better than the real thing because I fricking hate roaches, but I still like to have my biases confirmed.
If you are a Benellibro then please post a photo of your M4's gas port, preferably with calipers so we can get a nice precise measurment. I will do the same with an AKSA Turkelli M4. The undergassing shown in the video is unbelievable.
James I fricked your wife
This guy is a dildo. His "testing" isn't testing...it's deliberate abuse of a firearm.
In what scenario does he foresee the need to fire 10 full mag tubes of 12 gauge buckshot as fast as you can pull the trigger and reload?
Dude..if thats your situation, buy a mortar!
That's not how shotguns, even tacticool ones, are used.
This kind of guy would jump in a brand new car and drive it full throttle, balls to the walls nonstop from coast to coast and back, and when the vehicle broke, he'd declare it a POS.
Here he is, shooting birdshot and "eco-friendly" homosexual rounds through a brand new semi-auto when it's Gospel that you break such guns in with heavy loads.
Oh yeah...you also use GUN OIL on guns. WD-40 is not really lubricant, and isn't formulated for firearms use.
That SDS Turkelli will work just fine if it's broken in properly, lubed correctly, and used rationally.
>This guy is a dildo. His "testing" isn't testing...it's deliberate abuse of a firearm.
> In what scenario does he foresee the need to fire 10 full mag tubes of 12 gauge buckshot as fast as you can pull the trigger and reload?
> Dude..if thats your situation, buy a mortar!
> That's not how shotguns, even tacticool ones, are used.
> This kind of guy would jump in a brand new car and drive it full throttle, balls to the walls nonstop from coast to coast and back, and when the vehicle broke, he'd declare it a POS.
> Here he is, shooting birdshot and "eco-friendly" homosexual rounds through a brand new semi-auto when it's Gospel that you break such guns in with heavy loads.
>
> Oh yeah...you also use GUN OIL on guns. WD-40 is not really lubricant, and isn't formulated for firearms use.
> That SDS Turkelli will work just fine if it's broken in properly, lubed correctly, and used rationally.
Initially I wanted to say the complete green text was too much, but it really did make the punchline pop.
I bet everyone hating on Turkey is just a kurd, right, Deniz?
I don't know, and not do I care about Old World feuds among inbred mudpeople.
That shotgun is a tool. It is being deliberately misused, and when it cannot function at 100% while being abused, the smug cum-guzzler performing this "test" gets all butthurt and throws the tool downrange like a spoiled little girl throwing a tantrum.
Where the gun was made is far less important than what kind of person is behind the trigger.
The gun its impersonating CAN be deliberately abused and run without a hiccup. This gun clearly fails to meet the standards it set for itself by claiming itself comparable to a gun famous for standing up to the worst abuse imaginable.
>It is being deliberately misused, and when it cannot function at 100% while being abused,
Except non-turkshit guns can take that all day without issue. An afternoon of shooting trap will put more stress on a gun.
If he did all that shit to a benelli or a beretta 1301, it wouldn't have a problem.
Turkshit is low quality, as are the people who purchase it.
A $200 mossberg maverick handled the 500 round torture test just fine. Roaches just suck at guns
>A $200 mossberg maverick
comparing pump to semi auto isn't apples to apples lol
Yeah that’s true because the Maverick works
If you think that comparison was fair you're actually moronic. Also, the only gun out of many i've owned to completely shit the bed on me was a mossberg 500. After about 1k rounds it would light strike 19/20 shells even after reinserted for a 2nd try. Fricking had to pull out a washer from the bolt carrier group
Yeah there was also that $400 """"nice"""" turk pump shotty that failed miserably at the torture test. Roachguns just fricking suck.
moron
>WD-40 is not really lubricant
Fake news.
Are you serious?
Water Displacement formula 40
It is not a fricking lubricant as much as people seem to think it is. Want to oil your bicycle chain with wd40 , whatever but you do not "oil" a fricking firearm with water displacement 40
seethe and cope
Dil8 no guns homosexual
>seething in face of uncontested proof
Do your parents know you're a dumb homosexual?
Imagine being this retarted, post your guns if you have any or frick right off
>denying reality and unquestioned proof right in front of his eyes
Are you a troony, anon? This is what trannies like you keep doing.
>still refuses to post guns
Go leave chud you dont belong here
>still denying reality
keep doing that troony, you won't live much anyway
Turkroach cope post
Very subtle bait
I second this fellow, roach. How could we ever expect anything from Turkey to work?! This is clearly just a deliberate attack on Turkey
>In what scenario does he foresee the need to fire 10 full mag tubes of 12 gauge buckshot as fast as you can pull the trigger and reload?
Oh no I have to shoot my gun a whole 60 times. That’s too much abuse
>His "testing" isn't testing...it's deliberate abuse of a firearm.
I found the roach and owner of roach firearms.
What the frick is this cope you pathetic homosexual? I've used WD40 as lubricant and cleaner for my firearms for years before switching to Ballistol. I've ran tons of guns without any lube as well. Glocks, AR15, VZ58, AKM, they will absolutely work without lube.
Also, I own a Benelli M1 super 90, I could fire 10k rounds in a row without any lube, and it would still would not have any kind of failure, regardless of the ammo used.
Turkish guns are shit, deal with it.
>'ve used WD40 as lubricant and cleaner for my firearms for years before switching to Ballistol<
I've got news for you. You won't like it.
You've been lubing incorrectly for years.
Yes, I know...we should all just ignore legions of metallurgists and machinists and armorers and material scientists and all of their experience and advice and direction over decades and instead listen to your internet-anon FuddLore, right?
Hey, if WD-40 was so adequate, why did you switch to Ballistol?
Use up all your WD-40 supply on your buttplug?
ballistol isnt even good at preventing wear on project farms video when they did the bearing scraping test it scored the shit out of it compared to clp or the other oils
Personally I like it because it remains liquid for years and isn't toxic
i would like to see them test bar and chain oil, axle grease, and synthetic motor oil+atf
WD-Fuddly up there might want to try some KY jelly or AsstroGlide on his "pocket piece"...oh WAIT! He probably already DOES!
(His daddy probably used Crisco on his musket).
Jesus Christ, get a load of this redditspaced cope that completely ignores that the gun didn't get through 2 or 3 mag tubes of premium ammo before jamming up.
I'll try to get on here and respond to you incels individually when I get back from dinner with Carl Brugger.
Is the new big announcement from beretta in january the new arx100 or their weird hybrid ar15 rifle that they make only for the italian SF operators that was leaked in a brochure?
No. Way better but the caliber will disappoint most of you.
Only if it's in .22 or some weird nonsense thing like 7.5 FK
Ok you'll like it then
Marvelous
Arx 200? I just hope it's something worth buying
>.22 TP9
Who the frick asked for this? And I bet it will STILL cost 3000$
t. jr
Captcha SXVAG
.380, retred
If it's something neato like 7.5 fk or something wacky that'd be neato.
You're a lawyer and a modestly successful e-celeb, why do you still slum it here?
No one ever leaves. At most you just take a vacation
This place is amazing, dont act like its not
Because I was here before I was any of that
>James is an actual oldgay
Neat.
Does it at least sound like a laser gun? https://youtu.be/pcaI-sRFGb4?t=5
Something about that pic looks so off; something about the pic, at first glance, makes it look way smaller than it is. Like it shoots .22lr rat shot or something. Or am I just crazy?
Iprobably cuz the stock was in middle position and it's got an 11 inch handguard and the photo is at an angle
I think it was a mix of that and the blur at the edges of the photo. Maybe the table, too. But now I'm thinking about a brushed/bead blasted stainless 10/22 "garden gun" (smoothbore shot only) that has a chassis and furniture made to look like your Benelli. If I had stupid amounts of money and time I'd do it because garden guns are underappreciated. Can't imagine it ever cycling, though.
use ratshot, a spring from a pen might be enough for the recoil. hell if you get a frickload of cash do it and buy a 2mm kolibri as well to arm gnomes with
I didn't ignore it, Newton. It was irrelevant.
It's completely normal for a brand new semi-auto shotgun to have quite a few FTFs and FTEs until it's broken in.
And "woodpeckering" a dry semi is NOT how you break it in.
Use heavy loads, wet the action with GUN OIL, and then start making deliberate aimed shots. A LOT of them.
Have you never done ANY machining? In essence, breaking in a gun is a form of machining.
You use the correct lube or cutting fluid at the correct speed depending on the metal you're working.
And again, you are more likely to grow a penis out of your forehead than you are to ever need to go "mad minute" with a shottie.
Got a 5 round tube with one in the chamber?
You've got three double-taps or two triples. That's how you actually use a gauge...not psycho-blasting.
>I didn't ignore it, Newton. It was irrelevant.
>It's completely normal for a brand new semi-auto shotgun to have quite a few FTFs and FTEs until it's broken in.
>And "woodpeckering" a dry semi is NOT how you break it in.
>Use heavy loads, wet the action with GUN OIL, and then start making deliberate aimed shots. A LOT of them.
>Have you never done ANY machining? In essence, breaking in a gun is a form of machining.
>You use the correct lube or cutting fluid at the correct speed depending on the metal you're working.
>And again, you are more likely to grow a penis out of your forehead than you are to ever need to go "mad minute" with a shottie.
>Got a 5 round tube with one in the chamber?
>You've got three double-taps or two triples. That's how you actually use a gauge...not psycho-blasting.
The Benelli M4, the gun this Turkshit is trying to clone, CAN do just fine going "psycho blasting" through multiple tubes as fast as possible. Therefore, this Turkshit fails as a clone, because it CAN'T do something the gun its pretending to be CAN.
SDS already conceded that the gun has something wrong with it so I don't get why you are white knighting so hard for them. I think I was more than generous with my allowing a little bit of break in but every other shotgun I've tested got the same treatment and even the BAT S-Max ran flawlessly until it kicked the bucket after 400 rounds.
Again you seem really angry about this for some reason. Even if you were correct (pro tip: you're not), if you want to buy a shotgun that needs to have distilled sperm whale oil and needs a hokey pokey of a break in routine, go ahead. My opinion is exactly 'frick that' but that's your personal financial decision and nothing to get mad at me about my Turkish friend.
So he bought a gun that the manufacturer had already admitted has defects and then fault it when it doesn withstand this ridiculous and unrealistic "test"?
You're not helping your case here.
All I needed to know about this "test" and the mentality of the person conducting was summed up when he threw the piece downrange like a little b***h.
The problems were not souch with the piece as with the rest and the person conducting it.
He might have redeemed himself had he done a breakdown of the piece and tried to determine WHAT was causing the stoppages, but I guess an honest post-action forensic analysis wouldn't be as good a 'tube as throwing the gun downrange, huh?
I've done machining and metalwork for over 30 years, and anyone that would treat a tool or a machine like that, is out in the street corner holding his dick in his hand on the same day.
And someone without the honest curiosity to determine the "why" of a mechanical failure is not someone whose judgments or conclusions I trust.
By the way...I'm not Turkish. Too bad, because that seems to have been the only argument you had left.
Star Wars Episode IV a New Cope
You have bested me with your arguments, I yield.
Anyways here's my jackass cameraman at the JFK Delta Sky Club rn
that black lady isn't impressed by his physique
If you were paid, could you be MORE of a Passive Aggressive b***h
Sad fact is that the commenters on that tube have more knowledge and better tips than the video itself.
Video Expert: "REEEEEE!!! Turkinelli beez SHIT!" (throws gun into mud).
Video commenters: Goes and pucks up gun, disassembles and inspects it, cleans it, lubes it up with GUN OIL. Sees a small defect that costs $20 and a bit of elbow grease to fix, and then keeps the gauge for the next 25 years firing it every other week.
Who beez the dummy?
>Sees a small defect that costs $20 and a bit of elbow grease to fix
how is that remotely acceptable in 2022
By paying about $300 for a gun that looks like a $2000 gun...
PSA blows up
Turkshit runs when it runs
LMT out of spec
AUG stocks cracking under 1k rounds
Sig stuff blowing up
We're beta testers unfortuantly. As a consooooomer you hold the company acountable or learn GON SMIF
>PSA, LMT, AUG, SIG
How are those relevant?
Benelli, the company the Turkshit is ripping off, makes excellent guns that work without taking fricking power tools to them.
>he bought a gun that the manufacturer had already admitted has defects
I'd guess they reached out to him after the video and said "whoops lol a lemon.. that doesn't happen a lot"
Emails to my manager, Kelsey, and they responded to the pinned comment in the video.
Yeah I revile most people at first. It took a long time to get past. It's a negative trait from my pre-natal character build.
*repulse. Sorry, having a stroke.
Is Hop a nephilim?
Hop and I had a thing a few years back before he started transitioning. Used to be kind of cute. Now he’s too feminine for my tastes. Damn I miss that sweet, sweet boy pussy.
you're a hoot Sir James.
nah i think it was just my growing negative opinions on most guntubers hitting you with splash through little fault of your own, hit hop as well but I gave his content a better chance and eventually warmed up to him too. you're both making fair value determinations on the hardware you cover and its useful to me. you both also follow the golden rule of not wasting my time with lazily padded videos.
another thing is I've been salty about not having a PCC I like yet so when I saw people enjoying 2k buck blowbacks that nearly have the features I want I get triggered, sorry.
I just want to say that I appreciate you and your mad dabs at Turkshit James
yo how was the dinner
Good, Brugger is the man. Went to his favorite restaurant which was pretty casual. Got weinerschnitzel which is of course just a fancy euro chicken tender. He paid with a thousand Franc bill and the Waitress thought it was fake.
>weinerschnitzel which is of course just a fancy euro chicken tender
it is though. beating a cutlet with a hammer doesn't make it a separate thing deserving of its own name. oh wow you smacked it a few times before breading it, TOTALLY DIFFERENT now
We're not friends anymore
>beating a cutlet with a hammer doesn't make it a separate thing deserving of its own name
I mean, schnitzel just means cutlet. It's not always even breaded. But when they do bread it with the horseradish and the red cabbage with sweet vinegar, it does become a thing of beauty.
Shut the frick up you turl-shit apologist. He did the same exact shit with a $200 Mossberg and it survived
Comparing a pump to a semi-auto shows the depth of your slobbering moronation.
Your minder needs to change your drool cup how often?
The Mossberg 500 (along with the 88 and the 590) is famously durable.
This is on a pump shotgun which are also usually pretty rugged.
Really, I prefer the pump gun over the semi partly for that reason.
I put 1000 shells through my 1301 in one day as fast as I could load it. Quad loading so faster than James. Weekend after I was in a comp. Didn’t clean it zero malfunctions. And 1 to 1.2 k shells before I tore it down again zero malfunctions stop buying Turkish shite
hello mr israelite Reeves, can you admit that hop is a ftm troony, thanks, have a good night brother.
dear james, please review the arms given to ukraine. we need the raw fax
I got one when they came out and I absolutely love mine. Thousands of shells through it with few issues, although I did find a steel base shit tier target load that didn't cycle reliably. It is a better deal than other Turk semi auto shotguns in that it is a direct copy of an existing design and accepts most parts from it, so you have availability of spare and aftermarket parts (granted, very expensive ones) if you want to upgrade or replace something.
Quality however is still Turkish. It really depends on what you happen to get. Mine must have been made on a Tuesday so it's been excellent and I would 100% bet my life on it, but I cannot on good conscience guarantee that anybody else buying one will get the same results. You are rolling the dice, although at 1/5 the price of a genuine Benelli it is viable to take that dice roll and hope you don't get snake eyes twice in a row. Better yet if you can buy one from a distributor that takes returns/refunds/exchanges then that could be a good way to roll the dice a few times till you get one that is solid.
What specific brand was it? Like he said, they're probably all from the same place, but who knows; might buy one some day. Also, when the FRICK is that Alof's mag break open Turk shotgun being imported?
I probably wouldn't touch anything outside of the Canik.
Caniks makes glockgays seethe and it's hilarious.
Benelli M4 is probably what I'd go for.
I'm sure Canik are very nice. My LGS best man owns one, he's absolutely antiroach in political terms, as I aml btw, but he still says Canik are great for the price and surprisingly good for turkish stuff.
Canik is a step up from IWI, and both are brands id never touch even if I was paid for it.
I've see a lot of Turk guns break from just normal shooting. Sucks because I've really wanted the M3 clone for years. Can't justify spending $1k + on a damn shotgun, but also can't risk the receiver cracking within the first hundred rounds. Seems like there's no in between options.
Get a better job.
I have over 100k liquid in the bank and would still never spend more than 1k on a gun. I like guns too. But you don't make/save that much money by making poor financial decisions. A gun isn't worth that much, it's not new or difficult technology (unless you're Turkish). Plus, while on the topic of the M4, you could literally just get a tried and true Mossberg 930 for a fraction of the price. Anyone rolling the dice with a Turkish crap copy is financially moronic. The M3 is the real temptation, there isn't anything like it other than the SPAS12 and the Turkshit clone. Obviously the Turkshit is the only reasonably priced option for a pump/semi hybrid.
lol, poorgay lies
Why would I lie on the internet to a bunch if neckbeards? You're all just a bunch of homosexuals.
Because you need the validation due to your upbringing. Quite sad.
The only upbringing you should be talking about is the upbringing your mom did to my dick.
This isn't even me but at 30 years old I don't even feel like that's a lot of money. I still can't buy a house comfortably. It took me 10 years of working to save this much, so it'll take another 20 to get to 300k. 30 years of working for a fricking 300k house, which doesn't exist anymore. That's fricking slavery.
Jesus, that sucks. I bought a place right out of uni with the VA home loan at mid 20s I plan on renting out in a couple of years when I get a house.
Cause it's not much at all. In 5 years I've spent more than that on just my two kid's schooling.
My situation exactly. More and higher degrees than 90% of my countrymen, with a job that pays more than 85% of my countrymen. Still can't buy a home for my family.
Where do you live?
Decaying western Yureup.
>so it'll take another 20 to get to 300k. 30 years of working for a fricking 300k house
Black person you realize you don’t pay for it all up front right? You can put as little as 3% down assuming you have the cash flow to make monthly payments. At 20% down you don’t have any PMI which is another $40-80 a month to your mortgage. Do you not have $10k-30k saved?
What do you think average people do, buy houses in full with cash? Mortgages exist for a reason. If you have 100k you can afford a 60k down payment which would be 20% on a 300k home. That's a strong offer and you won't have to pay PMI. Your monthly payment on a 30 year would be like $1500 a month, if even that high. I have to imagine if you can save 100k you can afford that.
Man I’m against mortgages as much as the next goy but you sure are one dumb Black person. It’s a miracle someone with such little financial literacy can manage to attain $1,000 let alone $100,000.
>he thinks this is impressive
Poorgay cope.
post gun
I don’t own a firearm. They should all be banned and gun owners hanged.
Along with truck owners and landlords.
Nothing about this is impressive, that's why he's saying poorgay lies. You poorgay.
You don't have to make such an obvious lie on the internet dude.
It's not that it isn't believable that he has 100K. It's that anyone with the financial sense to save that money would actually believe that $1000+ is too much to spend on a toll they aren't buying with extreme frequency that is also their hobby they indulge in, even if not just on occasion. Especially with the dollar becoming more and more useless.
I truly believe OP has 100k, I'm just telling him it's not much. Shit, between mortgage, kids, all that shit, I'm out almost 70k a year for that shit alone. So it sucks for anon that he spent 10 years saving up for what I almost spend in a year, but I'm also Director of facilities at a very very large business, so I can afford my life style, just like the OP, I don't spend much money on guns at all.
I used to be into the hobby of buying guns. Some of you need to realize that that's your hobby. You obsess over little differences between various guns and then the ultimate high of your hobby us actually buying the gun and holding it around the house and shit and juat being like "cool I own this." I used to be the same way. I sold all the guns I didn't need. I now only have a few different sized handguns and a few role rifles, and one shotgun. If I buy a new shotgun, I'm selling the old one. There isn't any point to having two shotguns, hust pick one you think is the best for you and be done with it. When your hobby evolves into actually training for gunfights and combat, you don't give a shit how many guns you own. You'd rather own less and become a master with what you own. Having two shotguns will just lead to manual of arms confusion during training. The reason for not spending over 1k is because guns simply aren't worth that. You can get about the same thing for less, again compare the Mossberg 930 to the Benelli m4. The Benelli doesn't do anything the Mossberg can't except make you look rich and cool on forums. If you want me to think you're cool you're going to have to show me your training records not your toys.
I've actually spent $1200 on a Czech VZ58 pistol, but this is because I'm a huge slavshit nerd and it was the perfect gun for my imagined roll of a PDW that can conceal under a jacket. I justified it however because I made so much profit off of selling my unneeded guns, that the damn thing was probably free if not severely discounted by the amount of profit I had left over. If you're REALLY into one type of gun, go ahead and splurge. If hunting game was my thing, I wouldn't fret much over spending 1k+ on a top of the line bolt action. If I was into shooting birds or just had an obsession with shooting shotguns, maybe 1k. It's still odd because shotguns are usually so cheap. But these imagined role guns, don't bother wasting so much money on them, it's not smart. You just blew over 1k on your LARPing hobby. Invest in formal training instead and I guarantee your loadout and philosophy on guns is going to change when you see how they're actually used.
>It's still odd because shotguns are usually so cheap
depends on what you are getting it for, but guns for sporting clays can get pricey, fast.
I don't run around pretending I'm opfor. I hunt, and different shotguns and rifles do serve different purposes for me. A shotgun that's best for a day of upland hunting and hiking isn't the same shotgun I'd use for knocking a pile of dove out of the sky.
>I don't run around pretending I'm opfor.
Sad.
This. I want my dad and wife to have fun skeet shooting but i also want to dump 9+ rounds of buckshot or whatever through a target in semi auto 12g, so i buy 2 different shotguns
You must not know a lot of very successful people. Lots get there in no small part by being frugal, for others money is the objective more than it is a means to an end.
Had a real m3 and an m3T. There is a reason why they never became popular. cant fathom buying a clone of one. if you want to drop some cash on a cool gun, get the HK marked import super 90 combat
*M1 super 90 combat(pre 89 import)
I specifically want a pump/semi hybrid. Why they don't make more shotguns like that is beyond me, seems like the obvious perfect combo.
The folding model(T) sucks. its lop sucks, and youre stuck with the rear sight because its part of the locking mechanism for the stock. if the hybrids what you want , just get a turk m3 clone with the standard stock.
Thats stupid poverty mentality you are lying, according to this statement youd rathef spend 2000 dollars to buy 5 palmetto state armory cheapest 350 kits with an anderson lower all day rather than spend that money on a knights armament corp UPPER, you could use an in spec palmetto, aero, anderson, lower nobody really would give a shit even the people trolling know youre good. What an absolute poverty mentality thing to say.
Anon, I'm gonna assume your telling the truth on this Laotian pottery website. And pls take my warning with a grain of salt.
But I hope you have good car and home insurance and a good lawyer.
All you need is to have an accident with a litigious butthole and your in trouble.
>t. not a lawyer but am an office b***h at a firm.
Meh, I have an SDS S4 that's pretty good.
In fact, I have three. Still less than half the price of a benelli
what if you get a lemon?
Why would you buy 3 of the same exact gun? It’s not like ARs where you can have them set up for different purposes.
Spare parts for the one that kinda works
>Can't run target loads
Then it's shit. Almost all of my range trip shotgun ammo is cheap bird or target loads. My LTT1301 has no problem running all ammo types, it looks better than an M4 and I didn't pay such a high price. Only about $400 more than your 3 Turkinelli. Congratulations, you played yourself. If you had stuck to just one, you might have made a good budget option.
But even Mossberg has a great semi auto in the 940JM. You got the Turkinelli clones cause you wanted the M4 look, history and style, but didn't want to pay for the real thing. That's just loser's cope.
Yeah they're in a pile of federal birdshot shells because they can't run them.... right.
You learn gunsmithing on a $400 beater?
One is for me, two for friends
>You learn gunsmithing on a $400 beater?
is that what it says on the box? "some gunsmithing required"
i want to get a baikal mp153 like the gun from escape from tarkov
Same. aka Remington SPR 453 or Spartan 453.
Imports stopped in 2008 and boomers charge atleast 800$ but keep an eye on pawnshops and gun stores that regularly get used shotguns sold and bought frequently. You'll get lucky and find one and hopefully it'll be marked to like 289$ or something. Most shops reference Gunjoker for prices tho.
My advice is cope and get something cooler with a rail
Put about 800 shells through mine (50/50 slug and buck shot) and had some issues but it cleared up on its own. Took it home cleaned it good and gave it some lube anon cum lube and took it out again. Did not give me any issues the second time. Its a turk shit shotgun at the end of the day. I like to think of it as "we have benelli m4 at home" type of shotgun
>turkshit clone
>scam oil from turk in germany
You can't make this shit up.
Proof that lubeanon is a turk, and that.cumlube is a scam? If he wanted more scam money you think he would have shipped more fake oil out by now
I don't understand the use case. You can buy a Maverick 88 for $250 out the door with a 8 round tube and feed it anything and it'll just run. Or you can buy a 450 Turkshit M4 clone and fight it the entire time.
the maverick 88 isnt semi auto tho
neither is Turkshit if you've gotta mortar the charging handle every round
I paid $380 each for mine and they're great range toys.
Wouldn't trust my life to it but shotguns are just toys anyway.
Thats the thought i had for it, its just a if i like it enough ill buy the real thing. Im not taking the turkey toy seriously, i can afford to have multiple shotguns, this is a toy one.
It's really not that hard to run a pump quickly.
There are some people who are completely unaware the Mossberg 930 exists and is a reliable semiauto shotgun
Higher capacity, too. $700 ain't too bad either...
And it’s not that expensive either. Quite a bit more than a maverick 88 but it’s reasonably priced
Basically. You want a cheap shotgun? Buy a mav 88. You want a good pump? Buy a mossberg 500/590. Want a cheap but good semiauto? Buy a mossberg 930. Want a good and decently priced semi? Get a 1301. Want to treat yourself and scratch that gwot itch? Buy a benelli m4
I agree
It's very undergassed, maybe the gasport is clogged? I remember chink auto shotguns had burrs were the gasport was drilled which would work better after deburring.
Some poorgay gunsmithing might make it work.
Lmao. Lol. Gas port? Is that how you think a benelli m4 works?
James ur so hot bro what are the dimensions of ur thighs bro i need to know comon bro i need to have ur fat thighs on my face rn so bad bro not in a gay way but like in a bro yeah kinda way
That's a TUNISIAN flag in the thumbnail, not Turkish.
is the mp 153 good shotgun bros? i want a cheap semi auto that i can shoot light 1 oz loads with and i heard that one was adjustable
Yes, they are dogshit.
That's a Benelli
But it's not, though.
It is
The Benelli M4 pistons aren't flat on the ends like that. I have one, I should know.
That's normal wear and tear
You must have deliberately abused it by using it the way it is meant to be used
>shotguns
>2022
do people not use shotguns anymore?
have you ever seen GBRS guys shilling for a shotgun? Now SIG P365 Mini Maxi is the new meta, until benelli pays them of course
I don't put much stock in reliability videos by this guy or gt anymore. They seem to be pretty vanilla content conduits these days, just send me shit first and let me shoot it on camera, etc, except they are PrepHole flavored. I recently learned the Master of Arms AR-15, featured on tfb, was kind of a vaporware scam, a few units produced, the rest of the deposits stolen and the company put underground. No follow up videos by the gun tubers.
Bullpups have also been this way, the MDR and the Hellion both have qc issues, design flaws or both, yet are sold as "battle tested" or "flaws worked out". They aren't though, and the realization that they aren't has meant the price has come down.
But in the initial days, the Hellion was making a mint for resellers because the hype was believed. But ask yourself, what gun company wouldn't test the model they send to James? If they are a lemon-maker, they will filter out the lemons fron the press model kit. No reliability test should be done that is not an anonymously purchased unit.
But who does this, and more importantly who follows up and admits they got used? None of these guys, because in the end it's more important that they keep spamming out content, and using you.
I'll be sure to put your next mailroom on in the background while I do laundry James, but frick your Patreon and your other lazy content, you have no integrity to me, also you don't generate any memes, just regurgitate them.
TFB TV is one of the only guntube channels worth a shit and their videos are consistently entertaining. James and Hop give educated but simple to understand critiques of the firearms they review while acknowledging biases. Their videos are also easy to watch and funny. It sounds like you got burned after watching a guntuber review a gun and you're lashing out. You also sound autistic.
You sound like an unpaid tfb intern (/male)
>TFB TV is one of the only guntube channels worth a shit and their videos are consistently entertaining. James and Hop give educated but simple to understand critiques of the firearms they review while acknowledging biases. Their videos are also easy to watch and funny. It sounds like you got burned after watching a guntuber review a gun and you're lashing out. You also sound autistic.
The fact you find TFB entertaining proves you have a <100 IQ.
James is a a trash pandering fool grifting idiots like yourself
>duuuuude muh e-celebs are so funny and cool and interesting
you sound like a child
You are a homosexual, Ian.
you sound like you make consuming youtube a hobby, homosexual
>But ask yourself, what gun company wouldn't test the model they send to James? If they are a lemon-maker, they will filter out the lemons fron the press model kit. No reliability test should be done that is not an anonymously purchased unit.
He literally says in the video they bought it off the rack just as anyone else would. The shotgun company had no idea that particular gun was getting sent to a guntuber for testing.
Yeah he bought the cheap ass turkshit this time. He got the Hellion sent hand picked to him before its USA launch and slobbered over it, then it turned out to suck. At this point a gun sucking looks to me more like lack of marketing infrastructure than the gun sucking.
I should clarify, a gun tuber admitting a gun sucks looks like the gun company lacks marketing infrastructure. Otherwise I think them all terrified to admit something sucks for fear they no longer have access, which is what drives you incels to subscribe.
> But ask yourself, what gun company wouldn't test the model they send to James? If they are a lemon-maker, they will filter out the lemons fron the press model kit. No reliability test should be done that is not an anonymously purchased unit.
Why are you opening your stupid wienersucker on a thread where you didn’t even bother to watch the video it’s referencing? I hope you’re a shill and not this fricking dense.
Damn you lack reading comprehension. And who would I be shilling for, stopping listening to gun tubers? Shilling for saving your money and sticking to what has worked for huge amounts of.customers already?
>sticking to what has worked for huge amounts of.customers already?
A benelli?
This is literally the meta, hasn't changed
I didn't need James Sneed to tell me turkshit is shit
>Hellion both have qc issues, design flaws or both
What is there with the Hellion? I have one and I've not noticed anything of the sort.
>Master of arms
>No follow up videos
Yeah I don't even remember these mother frickers. I've done literally over one thousand videos and if I talked to someone at SHOT about their $599 Moses Brothers Self-Defense Engine Frontier Model B or some shit I probably forgot about it the next day but I thought you would find it interesting so I made a video about it.
>Hellion flaws
The hellion is a cringily named converted VHS made almost exclusively by HS Product and conversion performed by SA. The VHS is a proven design, so I'm not sure this complaint has any basis in reality.
Bro you seem very angry
I passed up on a pre-import ban AUG a few years back and I still regret it. I’ve got a decent job after getting fricked over by covid bullshit for the past couple of years and I want to treat myself to the tune of $2k or round abouts. Which would you recommend, the Hellion or a new manufacture AUG? I’m also a little buy curious about the new century import MEK made MP-5s but am wary of turkshit.
I'm too drunk to be answering this but here goes:
First of all, please only treatchoself if you have all of your financial obligations handled. It's cool to have cool guns but it's cooler to bring a woman back to a house with running water.
That said, If you truly have 2k liquid to blow, I can tell you that Steyr USA is working behind the scenes to bring AUS AUG parts and mods to the states, and I mean more than just rail pieces. I really like the AUG, generally, anyways, but I think we might see some cool shit from them in the future.
The VHS2 (I refuse to call it by its Springfield Armory ebonics name) was way better than I expected but it's heavier and bigger than the Aug, plus you have super tall optics mounting. For the roach MP5, I'm not shitting on Century even though they chug dick but the MKEs they import are supposedly decent. I'd go all the way on the real deal HK instead, and that's such a huge brand premium that I think you'd get more from the pups. I'd consider the MPX or a B&T APC instead for that $.
So, coin toss between VHS and AUG but personal bias, aftermarket support, and sentiment says AUG. I think you'd be happy either way.
Tickle that guys arm homosexual
>I refuse to call it by its Springfield Armory ebonics name
fricking lmao
Thanks for the feedback. I’ve never watched your videos but you don’t seem like half as much of the homosexual these anons make you out to be. If I may repay the favor, keep a jar of quick pickled ginger in the fridge. It’s very easy to make, a great condiment for food and wienertails, and the brine is like a miracle hangover treatment. Cheers, bud.
>AUG
frick those Lithgow wienersuckers for axing the F90 imports
>frick those Lithgow wienersuckers for axing the F90 imports
Anon, are you me? I saved up $1.2K hoping to get an Atrax. After half a year of not hearing anything about it, I researched it and saw that Lithgow cancelled its export cause they're homosexuals. Still wanting a bullpup, I weighed the Aug, Tavor and MDRx. I settled on the MDRx just because it was more modern and compatible with features.
Looks like I made the right choice cause the MDRx has a plethora of neat and futuristic furniture options.
james this isn't related to the thread at all but your behavior on this cave painting forum has changed my opinion of you. I now think you're pretty cool, a class act, actually. keep up the good work and stay based.
I bought a Charles Daly before I realized it was made in Turkey then sold it right after I learned. This guns intended purpose was HD and I would never trust my life to turk shit.
everything turkish is dog shit.
I love James-posting. From one James to another, keep up the good work. Your entertainment really makes the poor autists of this board screech, and boy do I love it.
is he really a lawyer?
That'd be a pretty stupid thing to lie about for several years. I believe he said he's passed the bar in a few other close-by states as well and says he's a lawyer for USCCA as well (and said he's never lost a case either)
>USCCA
ups
I meant US Law Shield, says it right in the fricking pic.
James "israeli" reeves?
the digits don’t lie
He's either israeli, peerage (British nobility) or a freemason. Maybe all three.
>https://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-09-17/farmers-call-for-ban-of-imported-shotgun/7851508
I'll never understand people who buy guns known to be shit and poor quality.
Could this have happened with an expensive gun? Yes, but the chances are incredibly lower
Buy the expensive shotgun
>eat ketchup sandwiches
>??????
>PROFIT
If a 2000 dollar purchase is going to change your lifestyle then you have other problems to worry about.
you dont have to shill your videos here james i watch them anyway. unlike the other wienergobbler guntubers.
>all this 930 posting
The 930 really isn't all that reliable/robust without aftermarket modification. In fact they're pretty infamous for mediocre reliability. If you want a semi auto shotgun then save up for a 1301.
True, but it stil beats any turk gun and it's made in the usa unlike the beretta
I agree, but a 450 dollar gun you can't trust your life too but looks cool to larp with is less of a waste of money than a 700 dollar one you still probably can't trust your life too and doesn't scratch any larp itches you have. Just think it's sort of a why choice.
I still don't understand why you would buy a cheap ass turkshit that WILL shit the bed. Just to scratch an itch? Just get the 1301 or save for a benelli m4. If yoir turkshit has a problem and their infamous warranty leaves you alone what do you do? You buy another and now you have wasted almost 1301 money. Buy a 1301? Now you have wasted your 450 bucks on a 120 dollar guns that the turks spray painted some cerakote on it.
Unironically the only reason to buy turkshit clones is for training on clearing malfunctions or just buy the things that are less likely to frick up like single shot shothuns (just don't shoot 3in mag)
There isn't a situation where cheaping out is the right choice if you value your safety, enjoyement and money.
/k/ doesn't shoot their guns anyways. So if you want to larp, and occasionally throw birdshot at a berm, 450 is a better price than 2k for playtime.
>birdshot
Too bad it can't even cycle those. Well, at the end of the day I can't teach you good money management, how you use your money is not my problem. But even considering a turk shotgun sure explains why so many people can't afford a 2k gun in 2022.
I didn't say *I* was gonna buy that nasty garbage rod, just saying. This place isn't known for men of taste and cultivated interests. Or financial wisdom, education, personal hygiene, I could go on, but I won't. But I could.
Shotgun is a working gun and just werks should be top priority. It's anguish to miss the first shot and to have the tool betray you at the follow on is more than a person can bear.I would rather have a reliable single shot than a semi that randomly fricked you. There is a whole world of reliable shotguns between the two pricepoints and I would rather have any of them than this.
940 is more a apt comparison
Turkish weapons are mostly dogshit. That being said, I love my Canik SFX Rival. I'd normally advise you try one out and see what you think, but 2 min into that video... you obv. aren't getting anything similar to a Benelli M4.
Howdy Jimbo. You still carry your p365xl?
Yes. Carl Brugger carries a 365 in a fanny pack fyi
Are Fanny packs finally not gay? Is it our time to shine?
fanny pack gang denounces all roaches and roach adjacent paraphernalia
The marine finish on the 1014 just looks wrong.
ok. i like it tho
I’m doing it. I’m getting a fanny pack and I’m going to carry a 1911 in it.
a boomer came into my workplace last week with an arcteryx jacket and a fannypack on and i told one of the guys "yeah hes got a 1911 in that pack, id bet any money" guy asked "how could you know that?" i said "the NAVY VETERAN hat, it would be against the code for it to be anything else"
Our friend James once fanny pack carried a desert eagle allegedly
>Are Fanny packs finally not gay?
Why do you care? They've been an excellent CC solution since before you were born.
fanny packs look moronic and ccing in one is not much better than purse carry.
I have ibs and iwb carry outs too much pressure on my stomach/intestines. It’s fanny pack or pocket and I hate tiny guns.
Go to Lavertezzo and jump from the stone bridge. It's a must to do before the water becomes too cold. Last year I jumped without realizing I was carrying and got scared shitless mid flight.
https://streamable.com/2khj32
That one anon? Thanks for the rec
No this one
Missed that one. Being from the south I rarely skip an opportunity to jump off of a bridge into liquid. The one in the city was pretty solid though. Drank a few of the shitty Swiss lagers with the blue label and the red castle on them first.
Definetly give it a try next time you're here. It's just 10 or so meter high but still really fun.
>The one in the city was pretty solid though
I just hope you didn't swallow any water
Congrats to your brother, James.
Thanks anon. This means a lot. Obviously I'm proud of him even if he used to turn off the SNES when I was ruthlessly beating his ass in SFII
okay enough about unimportant subjects, hop, hop is a troon isnt she.
Cool. Expect something in the mail sometime around Christmas.
wait until you find out that everything you pay for is grossly overpriced once a manufacturer can produce at scale.
I'll pay 400 dollars all day for a flip or turk gun, same reason I used to buy HiPoints before ARs became CHEAPER than a fricking HiPoint. If I have to do some of the fit and finish myself, that is the same situation as buying milslurp which is fine.
wait until you realize it cost the turks $40 to make that $400 gun
you're still getting ripped off
Theres no arguing with mentally poor people
Jews got gassed, balls got smashed
Several school shooters used to run around with Hatsan 12 gauge here
>Buy Turkelli M4 for $400
>Undergassed, barely functioning
>Drill out the gas port
>Runs flawlessly
We are teaching you infidels about DIY, mashallah.
>buy new gun
>blueprint it before shooting
I was under the impression that you infidels love buying unfinished guns astaghfirullah
No its called you run the gun until you have a problem, find out whats causing that problem, and address the problem.
or you pay 3000 for a real m4
>No its called you run the gun until you have a problem
that's not the implicit understanding of firearm ownership
literally nobody but actual real life autists do a deep-inspection of every bit of their firearm before firing it.
you buy the gun, you buy the ammo, you shoot the gun, and if a problem happens you fix it. how can you know there's a problem until it pops up?
turk handguns are good, their shotguns are very iffy depending on the brand and model.
my 1911 has never given me issues and is pretty damn accurate too.
My turk beretta copy broke the slide in 200 rounds
my 1911 is 2000 rounds in and everything is fine. is yours forged steel?
i hate turks
Imagine being a boomer and shilling for mystery meat shotguns AND being a poorgay.
>you just gotta break it in right
>no woodpeckerin'
>just some high brass and a little elbow grease, mhmm. just gotta sand that bolt down with some sand paper. drill another hole in the gas ports
>at least a 2000 round break-in period
>you kids these days are shootin' too fast now
>no psycho blastin' on the range
I do have to thank roach anon for giving me the term "psycho-blasting", I'm gonna use that shit with my shooting buds.
>>at least a 2000 round break-in period
average 2011
This guys a fricking chad.
Can’t wait to watch the video and get quality gun entertainment.
Other shitty zoomer israelitetubers can suck a dick.
Assume that any Turkish shotgun not made by Stoeger is shit, specially the Benelli clones.
cost more in break-in ammo then the piece of shit is worth
Anyone who takes ~~*~~*((leviathan group*~~*~~)) money is a piece of shit.
source?
I don't. What are you on about?
>ACRE GOLD
>SIMPLISAFE
>RAID SHADOW CBT DUNGEON
frick you
Yeah and frick NordVPN right in the pussy
Watching anyone popular is having whatever the YouTube propagandists want piped directly into your brain. If they didn't want it promulgated they'd just shitcan it.
>leviathon ~~*tribe*~~
jeez they dont even try to hide it
What do they even achieve by (i guess) sponsoring so many channels? Like what do they get in return? Do they prohibit their "tribe" from doing negative reviews on certain products?
Steyr betrayed us. Might have to find a used one.
t. james, Steyr's new US marketing guy is younger and is plugged in with the YT cool guy club so that doesn't surprise me. Steyr US has flipped marketing managers more time than any other company I've ever encountered. My visit to Steyr US last year got repeatedly delayed because head of marketing got hired and fired 3 times over that span so we'd have to start from scratch every time. FYI that dude in the videos, Brian Marshall, is the man. I've never met someone so autistically passionate about a single platform in my life. Super, super nice dude, which he would run their marketing department along with the training dept.
Do you still have video left about your trip to Italy? I'm especially interested in their manufacturing plant which I heard it's really fancy.
Yes, I have a factory tour video and probably ten others in my Beretta hard drive. I'll move that one up just for you, anon. They have perhaps the best plant I've seen. Glock's is really cool but way too sanitary. Beretta's is very people oriented, with live plants throughout the factory (like a canary in a coal mine effect), tons of espresso machines, smoking patios, snack machines, lighting that mimics real daylight, and the factory is split in half by a river. The more I discovered about Beretta and how they engineer guns, manufacture them, and how they treat their employees, the more I like them.
is glock ever gonna make a carry pistol that beats the p365 on even terms
No. I went to Deutsche-Wagrum and met with Josef Kroyer in 2019, who was their then-chief designer. He acknowledges that it's not possible so long as Glock insists on polymer-over-steel mag construction. There's no sign that will ever stop. I've suggested to Glock they consider re-launching the 43 with a 43X-mag compatible frame (this requires only adding 1/10th of an inch to the grip/magwell), but they don't want to a) have 2 SKUs of G43 or b) "abandon" the millions of current G43 owners.
This means a lot to me because this is exactly what I'd like to accomplish. I'm going to see some of the greats die in my lifetime (Clint Smith, Franco Beretta, Gaston Glock, Karl Brugger, Paolo Parola) so I'm trying to preserve that as best I can on YouTube. We also have an auto backup to b***hute, Gunstreamer, and an internal web-based storage in case the world ends.
>He acknowledges that it's not possible so long as Glock insists on polymer-over-steel mag construction.
such a strange hill to die on to lose the segment. like, their mags are great for all their other guns but with bruen the carry pistol market has exploded, I'm actually directly affected, and I was really disappointed to learn my IWB options (without dressing like a fricking idiot) are really just a p365, a g43, or a less comfortable fit with a g26.
like, its a given any new entry in the space will need a new mag, just go with steel one for fricks sake and stop giving ground to sig.
>but they don't want to a) have 2 SKUs of G43
uhg, ok, make it a new model number.
>b) "abandon" the millions of current G43 owners.
I understand that worry, but for real, im a g43 owner that's seething over having to abandon the gun for the higher capacity option. I'd much prefer to buy a glonk365 than give money to sig (bigger problem is for some reason I _cannot_ shoot the p365 for shit atm), but the difference between ~6 rounds and 10 is too big to ignore.
i know I'm preaching to the choir. I'm just b***hing. frick.
Glad to know there are backups. Will definately look for more in them.
>I'll move that one up just for you, anon.
Really nice, thanks.
Hey James, just want to know several of your videos are on my HD for my kids to watch in 20 years regarding firearms. So in a way your videos are now one more generation in. Not all of it is fine, though, because shorts above kneeline are gay. Cheers, keep up the good work.
>Not all of it is fine, though, because shorts above kneeline are gay.
no, they're a sign of virility and physical prowess you idiot.
He's not Rhodesian and he's not shooting Black folk, so the only two cases in where that is true are discarded.
Yeah BM seems cool but he and the marketing guy are ultimately immaterial.
I think the relevant question who owns Steyr?
also who is L&O Holding or whoever owns Sig?
*is
Too bad someone doesnt clone the spaz-12...
semi plus pump backup, +
one arm guage deployment
what could be better
>what could be better
the benelli m4
Something that cycles reliably
Frickin'.... c'mon James, WD-40 isn't fricking lube, it's a solvent and water displacer
Agreed but it's all we had our there in the country and I wanted the gun to succeed
Based, he's completely right. You get what you pay for. Save your money for one of the "B" brands. Beretta, Benelli, Browning. You will love your shotgun.
I already love my mossberg though.
Hopefully they get their shit together. During the pandemic they had a lot of QC issues