Not really. There's a reason they are all "harbor freight" quality: if you made one that was professional quality nobody would buy it. Home owners would still buy the cheap garbage to do their piddly digging, and professionals would buy or rent a real backhoe or excavator, and here's why: THE DAMN THING IS STATIONARY unless you go get in the truck and reposition it, which sucks compared to an actual back hoe or excavator.
tl,dr: there is nothing phenomenal about this device.
and there are "in-between" options that don't suck. I've used pic related quite a bit and it's pretty capable considering its size. It does cost about 8x OP's toy, but it's easily 8x better in every way except you need a trailer to move it.
This. Same reason why "cheap cars" don't exist. Poors will get a better deal buying a used car with more features than a cheap car with less. Rich people wouldn't buy it in the first place
there's a shitload of cheap cars in other countries, particularly developing ones. The startup costs and regulatory overhead are just too high for anyone to break into the market in NA and the culture of debt and payment plans means it's in the big car maker's interests to only sell cars above a certain price point.
If India you can get new midrange cars for under 5K USD, even in japan a cheaper new car is ~10K instead of 20.
There aren't completely stationary. You can move around without having to reposition with a vehicle.
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They tend to have cheap parts but they also cost 1/4th the price of the cheapest mini excavator. A homeowner can easily earn their money back with one.
So I've actually used one of these unlike the other chucklefricks on this board. You move yourself around with the backhoe itself. Its annoying, but doable.
Is it as good as a professional backhoe...Frick no.
Is it as good as even a 3 point mounted backhoe on a tractor. Also no.
>You move yourself around with the backhoe itself. Its annoying, but doable.
So it has brakes that are easily controlled from the seat? Hard to believe based on OP's picture. Or does it skate around like a Kansas City homosexual while you dig?
^This. Anyone serious would permanently mount a real backhoe to a real truck (it's been done) if they wanted what those do.
https://i.imgur.com/lIRUh8X.jpg
Anon, how about picrel? This + small tractor costs about the same as your pic.
How about renting different equipment instead of talking yourself into wasting money on sub-optimal equipment?
You want to buy stuff so buy stuff. Contractors with work to do rent, finish the fricking job, then hand that shit back to Sunbelt and rent task specific equipment for their next task.
That was always my favorite thing at the playground. I'd make engine noises and pretend I was using a real backhoe... Bbbbb vvvrrrroooommm ERRRRKKK!
This. It's a phenomenal idea, but every single one is awful.
>It's a phenomenal idea
Not really. There's a reason they are all "harbor freight" quality: if you made one that was professional quality nobody would buy it. Home owners would still buy the cheap garbage to do their piddly digging, and professionals would buy or rent a real backhoe or excavator, and here's why: THE DAMN THING IS STATIONARY unless you go get in the truck and reposition it, which sucks compared to an actual back hoe or excavator.
tl,dr: there is nothing phenomenal about this device.
They're fine, as long as you adjust your expectations for what you can actually do with the thing. The lack of outriggers should be a clue.
Truthfully, you can get an authentic chinkshit mini-excavator delivered for like $5-7k for a halfway decent one.
This little nip is zipping around in one for $2600 bucks off alibaba.
Digging up tree stumps? Doubt it.
Cutting in a new drain or something? Sure.
>not very mobile or agile >low weight limit >no counterweight or outriggers >bucket teeth made of top quality lead >built of the lowest quality steel in the universe >will only dig effectively in wet, loose soil >good luck getting parts >what warranty? >you'll look like the moronic kid at school when you sit in that seat
$2600 will hire you a lot of Mexicans with shovels who can dig faster and more effectively than that overpriced toy.
For $2600 you can definitely get enough for whatever digging needs done.
Right? These fricking stingy gringo boomers make me so mad, ese
We're supporting your American Dream holmes
why can't US companies make quality cheap products then
Simple: government regulations. There's no OSHA in China. You don't need tons of permits and licenses and inspections in China. There's no unions so labor is oppressively cheap. Material quality isn't important so they can use cheaper shittier steel and no one cares. There's no CPSC in China to issue recalls for faulty products or impose fines for safety issues.
https://i.imgur.com/yUyS9V0.jpg
>why can't US companies make quality cheap products
Usually because to make good quality end products you need good quality materials to start, and the reason China can build stuff for cheap is because they cheap-out on the materials.
Plenty of Murrican companies cheap out too, only difference is here you can be sued out of business or shut down by the gub'mint for making shit too cheap. No such issue in China, especially if they're exporting it.
>$2600 will hire you a lot of Mexicans
And that is why your county is dying. China would build a machine rather than import drug dealers to do a bit of manual labor
China also has a nearly endless supply of labor that's happy to work for a couple dollars a day. Imported Mexicans would cost way more.
Soooo....explain why drug dealers would be digging ditches?
>$2600 will hire you a lot of Mexicans
And that is why your county is dying. China would build a machine rather than import drug dealers to do a bit of manual labor
>why can't US companies make quality cheap products
Usually because to make good quality end products you need good quality materials to start, and the reason China can build stuff for cheap is because they cheap-out on the materials.
From what I've seen of them the controls for the stabilizers are from the backhoe seat, but if you want to move it you have to use the controls at the rear. Still, it moves under its own power. The real nice thing about them is that you can get all sorts of attachments: back hoe, bucket loader, forks, trencher, various auger/bore bits, etc. It's a bit on the smaller and lighter side, but if you're doing predominantly landscaping projects in tighter environments as opposed to heavy construction it's probably better to have one of these as opposed to a purpose-built machine for each task.
I might be the only person here who's used one, they aren't the worst. I hauled one around behind my utv which worked pretty good for digging drain trenches on some mountain roads. my buddy dug out a root cellar with it too. its fine if you get a good price on one and use it for the right things
oh interesting, i've been looking into this myself for the past month as i am buying an excavator of some kind soon.
there are many factors...
i've felt my budget steadily increasign the longer i've looked
>i've felt my budget steadily increasign the longer i've looked
kek
i know the feeling. >1 ton mini now has become a 1.8t-2t one with all kinds of gizmos i didn't even care about until i started looking
They fricking suck. All Chinese garbage. Frick you
This. It's a phenomenal idea, but every single one is awful.
>It's a phenomenal idea
Not really. There's a reason they are all "harbor freight" quality: if you made one that was professional quality nobody would buy it. Home owners would still buy the cheap garbage to do their piddly digging, and professionals would buy or rent a real backhoe or excavator, and here's why: THE DAMN THING IS STATIONARY unless you go get in the truck and reposition it, which sucks compared to an actual back hoe or excavator.
tl,dr: there is nothing phenomenal about this device.
and there are "in-between" options that don't suck. I've used pic related quite a bit and it's pretty capable considering its size. It does cost about 8x OP's toy, but it's easily 8x better in every way except you need a trailer to move it.
Anon, how about picrel? This + small tractor costs about the same as your pic.
please tell me that thing at least has a seatbelt. it's got to be like riding the bull at the local cowboy bar.
Its supposed to be mounted on a 3 point tractor hitch
Have you considered one of these?
This. Same reason why "cheap cars" don't exist. Poors will get a better deal buying a used car with more features than a cheap car with less. Rich people wouldn't buy it in the first place
there's a shitload of cheap cars in other countries, particularly developing ones. The startup costs and regulatory overhead are just too high for anyone to break into the market in NA and the culture of debt and payment plans means it's in the big car maker's interests to only sell cars above a certain price point.
If India you can get new midrange cars for under 5K USD, even in japan a cheaper new car is ~10K instead of 20.
>THE DAMN THING IS STATIONARY unless you go get in the truck and reposition it
Just leave the truck running and switch seats to move around.
There aren't completely stationary. You can move around without having to reposition with a vehicle.
?t=219
They tend to have cheap parts but they also cost 1/4th the price of the cheapest mini excavator. A homeowner can easily earn their money back with one.
So I've actually used one of these unlike the other chucklefricks on this board. You move yourself around with the backhoe itself. Its annoying, but doable.
Is it as good as a professional backhoe...Frick no.
Is it as good as even a 3 point mounted backhoe on a tractor. Also no.
Is it better than a shovel. FRICK YES.
>You move yourself around with the backhoe itself. Its annoying, but doable.
So it has brakes that are easily controlled from the seat? Hard to believe based on OP's picture. Or does it skate around like a Kansas City homosexual while you dig?
^This. Anyone serious would permanently mount a real backhoe to a real truck (it's been done) if they wanted what those do.
How about renting different equipment instead of talking yourself into wasting money on sub-optimal equipment?
You want to buy stuff so buy stuff. Contractors with work to do rent, finish the fricking job, then hand that shit back to Sunbelt and rent task specific equipment for their next task.
Measure everything with money.
They're fine, as long as you adjust your expectations for what you can actually do with the thing. The lack of outriggers should be a clue.
Truthfully, you can get an authentic chinkshit mini-excavator delivered for like $5-7k for a halfway decent one.
This little nip is zipping around in one for $2600 bucks off alibaba.
Digging up tree stumps? Doubt it.
Cutting in a new drain or something? Sure.
>not very mobile or agile
>low weight limit
>no counterweight or outriggers
>bucket teeth made of top quality lead
>built of the lowest quality steel in the universe
>will only dig effectively in wet, loose soil
>good luck getting parts
>what warranty?
>you'll look like the moronic kid at school when you sit in that seat
$2600 will hire you a lot of Mexicans with shovels who can dig faster and more effectively than that overpriced toy.
>$2600 will hire you a lot of Mexicans
10 years ago maybe.
Right? These fricking stingy gringo boomers make me so mad, ese
For $2600 you can definitely get enough for whatever digging needs done.
We're supporting your American Dream holmes
Simple: government regulations. There's no OSHA in China. You don't need tons of permits and licenses and inspections in China. There's no unions so labor is oppressively cheap. Material quality isn't important so they can use cheaper shittier steel and no one cares. There's no CPSC in China to issue recalls for faulty products or impose fines for safety issues.
Plenty of Murrican companies cheap out too, only difference is here you can be sued out of business or shut down by the gub'mint for making shit too cheap. No such issue in China, especially if they're exporting it.
China also has a nearly endless supply of labor that's happy to work for a couple dollars a day. Imported Mexicans would cost way more.
**cough**tunnels**cough**
>$2600 will hire you a lot of Mexicans
And that is why your county is dying. China would build a machine rather than import drug dealers to do a bit of manual labor
Soooo....explain why drug dealers would be digging ditches?
We don't control the government, anon.
are you a pro heavy machinery operator?
are you losing business to diyers buying Chinese made stuff?
why can't US companies make quality cheap products then
>why can't US companies make quality cheap products
Usually because to make good quality end products you need good quality materials to start, and the reason China can build stuff for cheap is because they cheap-out on the materials.
That was always my favorite thing at the playground. I'd make engine noises and pretend I was using a real backhoe... Bbbbb vvvrrrroooommm ERRRRKKK!
you have won this thread, fella
You have won a trip back to redit you fricking troony clown
Frick you b***h, I won the thread, you're a fricking loser. Probably salty because you're this guy
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congrats, fella
how do i give you gold on this sub?
edit: nevermind
You are an unbelievable homosexual.
for reference, these things weigh anywhere between 1200lbs and 1500lbs. not exactly pro heavy machinery, but definitely not a toy either
buy it. it's great
>all Chinese garbage
newsflash, even your Makita is made in China
Made in china can be decent
Designed, built, and sold by chinks is always shit.
The video of it shows it unable to dig in soil, that's the fricking advertisement vid lmao
>talk me out of this, diy
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die
Nah frick that. Rent a mini for the weekend or import a Chinese mini.
get a minidigger and a trailer?
These are more expensive but you can get them to do more things, too.
Do the stabilizer feet deploy from the seat, or is it like some PTO attachments that are just using it for power and you have to get out and set them
From what I've seen of them the controls for the stabilizers are from the backhoe seat, but if you want to move it you have to use the controls at the rear. Still, it moves under its own power. The real nice thing about them is that you can get all sorts of attachments: back hoe, bucket loader, forks, trencher, various auger/bore bits, etc. It's a bit on the smaller and lighter side, but if you're doing predominantly landscaping projects in tighter environments as opposed to heavy construction it's probably better to have one of these as opposed to a purpose-built machine for each task.
I might be the only person here who's used one, they aren't the worst. I hauled one around behind my utv which worked pretty good for digging drain trenches on some mountain roads. my buddy dug out a root cellar with it too. its fine if you get a good price on one and use it for the right things
too late, op seemed settled on getting a Chinese cheapy mini excavator
Depends, what are you trying to do with it?
oh interesting, i've been looking into this myself for the past month as i am buying an excavator of some kind soon.
there are many factors...
i've felt my budget steadily increasign the longer i've looked
>i've felt my budget steadily increasign the longer i've looked
kek
i know the feeling.
>1 ton mini now has become a 1.8t-2t one with all kinds of gizmos i didn't even care about until i started looking
yup..
are you buying a digger too?
there are so many machines i'd love to own.
really there's an arsenal of equipment i'd love to own...
It'd be good for digging graves inna woods, that's about it.
get pic related at auction
What's going on at the rear? Just a hitch but only for road travel/potential retrieval?
its towable