Well, I just never prep for the worst, because the chance of that happening is so low. I can make a shitty one out of things that are next to my FAK though.
I'm bikepacking and I thought bringing a tourniquet would be overkill. Then I saw this video which scared me to death.
I still don't understand how this happened exactly, how the frick is this possible? I think I remember some people saying that the guy had a previous injury in this area of his body so this crash did some magic stuff and cut his artery.
I bought a cat Tourniquet after seing this shit, but I still keep it at home when I go outside because I'm a moron (though I have an Israeli bandage in my medikit that can double as a shitty tourniquet I guess).
Please convince me to bring the tourniquet on my outings, what kind of injury can happen in the wood that would require one?
The wound seems to be in his high inner thigh. Looks too high to apply a tourniquet well. What they did, putting pressure on it and packing it is probably best.
Yes, this is also what I've read from the comments on this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZgw0rY1408
So basically if you're alone and you have that kind of injury, the only thing you can try to do is to pack the wound with some hemostatic agent like some Celox gauze?
Pretty much that first. Call for help. Though if you're this unlucky and your alone in the area I doubt you can pack it tighly enough and keep enough pressure to make it.
Maybe a pressure (Israeli) bandage could help a little after you tried packing it?
You can self apply and tighten them, they can actually serve as a backup tourniquet from what I've heard (if you twist it every time you wrap it) but in that case they would apply direct pressure on the wound itself so I guess that would be good.
Anyway, I hope that guy got terribly unlucky for that kind of injury to happen on a bicycle, this is pretty terrifying.
>Cedric and friends were training on the path for a race in the coming days when the accident happened >Cedric actually had to press his artery down onto the femur with his fingers to slow the bleeding enough that he wouldn't die quickly >His friends called for a helicopter but the dispatch sent firefighters expecting a his to be just another bike accident though the friend argued otherwise >Firefighters arrived and took the phone and told the dispatch to send a helicopter as this was way out of what they could handle >There happened to be a helicopter training exercise with a physician at the time who took the call >Cedric had laid bleeding out for like an hour iirc before he got on the coptor >The physician said he had only ever seen 3 femoral artery tears in his life and cedric was the only one to survive >Cedric went on to finish the race three years later and then retired
literally just leukotape p, band aids, alcohol wipes, ibuprofen, bacitracin, and imodium. if you're in a position where you'll actually bleed out without a tourniquet, you're fricked. if you're bringing fricktons of extra weight alike this moron you probably don't go out at all
I dunno. Most of these gays are just fat kids who walk a few hundred feet from their cars and frick around shooting guns or chopping wood with a large knife, so maybe it’s not a bad idea.
Are you even still supposed to use tourniquets? The medical community's gone back and forth on if they're effective more often than misused a lot lately. Its pretty easy for misuse of them to lead to amputations. Does anyone know where the ~~*experts*~~ currently stand?
Backpacking: 99% of the time no. Only around falling hazards like crevasses. You can easily improvise one by cutting up a piece of gear if you need one for someone else. Doesn't work so well on yourself for obvious reasons.
Bushcraft, Car Camping: why not throw one in the trunk? Yeah I'd keep one in the first aid kit.
Not exactly. It was based on lessons learned from ww1 and 2 where patients might spend hours in a trench or a dugout before being stretchered to a first aid post and even longer before reaching a field hospital (with the tq often left on in the meantime).
There are serious risks with tourniquet application and they should not be used for no reason but if other methods of bleeding control have failed (or if you've got an artery spraying blood across the room, or if you're under fire and need to evac) then they're the best option.
If applied correctly then the risk of any complications (nerve damage etc) is pretty unlikely up to 2h and the risk of limb necrosis requiring amputation is minimal for a couple of hours past that. There are other issues (reperfusion injury, pain, potential worsening of bleeding if poorly applied) but they're a tool worth knowing how to use.
If you're interested, this article is well written and reasonably accurate.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2660095/
TQs aren't really that dangerous, it takes a while for a TQ to start causing permanent damage and even longer for it to cause amputation level damage.
If you need a TQ, it's better to lose a limb then to exsanguinate, and I don't think the average moron would be able to deal with a TQ being applied for as long as it would need to be on to cause permanent damage unless it was absolutely necessary, those fricks hurt.
The amount of time it takes a tourniquet to kill a limb/require amputation is measured in days, not hours. If youre using a manufactured (not improvised) tourniquet all you really need to remember is to put it above the joint, above the wound. Dont put it on/too close too the wound. Tighten until you can not feel a pulse/bleeding stops.
You can 3d print one with some webbing and sewing too. Personally I don’t plan on getting shot but I don’t wear bright orange outside either.
https://3dprintingforukraine.com/
There’s a specific pressure you need to keep your body cells and veins working, pathogens and dead cells out of your blood stream, and avoid crushing pain. There’s a very good chance you’ll end up needing to amputate anyway with an improvised tourniquet.
I posted a picture of my actual tournys, not some knockoffs- "chut". Not my fault you are reactionary and wait for a lack of supply and heightened demand to get an interest in stuff
i once took a work related first aid course where my teacher said you should never use antiseptic in any occasion just let the bleeding do the job
apprently it also worsens the bleeding because it prevents the blood from coagulating
no mention of wound cleaning inflammation whatsoever, he had a laugh when i asked and after that everyone else laughed at me too
If it’s a big enough wound it will clean itself, sure. And some first aid solutions like superglue will prevent healing. But I don’t think they knew what they were talking about.
he said he had over 30 years of experience and i believe him because i remembered him from my high school dont do drugs seminar 20 years ago
would have asked about the superglue too but after he laughed at me and made the whole class or grown men make fun of me i didn´t really feel like it anymore
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It’s silly if a grown man can’t answer a question and feels the need to ridicule to prove his authority in a classroom.
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To add to this, it's really fricking gay when even SNCOs or instructors spread misconceptions about pre-hospital treatment. All it does is breed dangerous ignorance. People approach me with all kinds of questions, I try to answer them all, whether they're stupid questions or not. The only questions that I think are dumb are the ones that elicit the response "Ask your GP or PCP." I'm not a doctor.
he said he had over 30 years of experience and i believe him because i remembered him from my high school dont do drugs seminar 20 years ago
would have asked about the superglue too but after he laughed at me and made the whole class or grown men make fun of me i didn´t really feel like it anymore
I would not 3D print a piece of lifesaving equipment unless I could not buy the real thing.
A belt makes a tourniquet, could even be some cordage or zipties in a pinch
The effectiveness of a purpose made TQ exceeds anything improvised.
https://i.imgur.com/WUg6th1.jpg
No. A tourniquet is only useful for catastrophic bleeding, after ordinary methods of blood control have been attempted. You cannot effectively put a tourniquet on yourself.
I carry a tourniquet daily for work just in case I cut an artery with my chainsaw, but it's for someone else for use on me.
Anyway, in my PrepHole first aid kit: >plaster strip, more versatile than individual plasters >antiseptic cream >vaseline tin, useful for lips in cold weather, sealing minor wounds, managing chafing, and preventing corrosion on chinesium electrical components >400 mg ibuprofen (it's anti-inflammatory so it's better than paracetamol/acetaminophen) >loperamide, just in case I drink some funky water. Never needed it but I'd rather have it anyway. >allergy pills, non-drowsy >suture strips just in case I accidentally slash my hand open again >tweezers >nail scissors, for trimming nails, hangnails, and cutting the plaster strip
For work, the same plus: >tourniquet >three israeli bandages (three is the minimum to deal with a common impaling wound), these are simply the best available bandage on the market. Trust the israelites when it comes to this anons, they've spent the last 70 years getting shot at in Gaza so they know how to make a decent bandage >haemostatic dressings (always take an allergy pill if you're using one either on yourself or somebody else, they're very irritating to your mucosal tissues and can trigger anaphylaxis)
If you have a good TQ and you see an amputation or arterial bleed I would not bother with any other method, not if I had a TQ on me. You can absolutely apply a TQ to yourself, although arm is harder than leg for obvious reason.
I have a couple from my Ifak when I was in the military, it lives in my pack for the freak chance I trip while bowhunting and put a broadhead through my leg or Dick Cheyney'd by some fricking fud.
No. A tourniquet is only useful for catastrophic bleeding, after ordinary methods of blood control have been attempted. You cannot effectively put a tourniquet on yourself.
I carry a tourniquet daily for work just in case I cut an artery with my chainsaw, but it's for someone else for use on me.
Anyway, in my PrepHole first aid kit: >plaster strip, more versatile than individual plasters >antiseptic cream >vaseline tin, useful for lips in cold weather, sealing minor wounds, managing chafing, and preventing corrosion on chinesium electrical components >400 mg ibuprofen (it's anti-inflammatory so it's better than paracetamol/acetaminophen) >loperamide, just in case I drink some funky water. Never needed it but I'd rather have it anyway. >allergy pills, non-drowsy >suture strips just in case I accidentally slash my hand open again >tweezers >nail scissors, for trimming nails, hangnails, and cutting the plaster strip
For work, the same plus: >tourniquet >three israeli bandages (three is the minimum to deal with a common impaling wound), these are simply the best available bandage on the market. Trust the israelites when it comes to this anons, they've spent the last 70 years getting shot at in Gaza so they know how to make a decent bandage >haemostatic dressings (always take an allergy pill if you're using one either on yourself or somebody else, they're very irritating to your mucosal tissues and can trigger anaphylaxis)
>A tourniquet is only useful for catastrophic bleeding, after ordinary methods of blood control have been attempted.
True. A lot of folks are too quick to apply a tq these days without attempting to stem bleeding using direct pressure first. I blame the .mil influence, the risk of getting shot while providing care changes their dynamic vs a civilian situation. >You cannot effectively put a tourniquet on yourself.
False. You absolutely can. I've treated a guy who managed to completely amputate his hand/half his forearm with some piece of farm equipment - he stayed conscious long enough to stumble up to the house, find his FAK in the bathroom room, apply a tourniquet, apply a second tourniquet because it was still oozing and phone 911. According to the EMTs he was as white as a sheet when they got there but still upright.
It's not something I'd count on but it's possible.
Boo boo bus attendant here. You should absolutely have one in your home first aid kit, they don't go bad. It can take us upwards of 30 min to get to you and it can save your life. You can 100% apply your own tourniquet. I keep one in my chainsaw kit and chest rig. There are different ones but if you buy the CAT tourniquet (best one on the market) you should be able to. Those latex tourniquets are great if you have someone else to put it on you (otherwise avoid it), and can run double duty as a Israeli bandage with some pads on the wound.
I have one in my bicycle medical kit. Never had to use anything more than a gauze, but for the few euros it costs it's worth it with the risk of cutting your leg/arm against a guard rail/etc.
One of those folding instant casts is better, these are for serious trauma with the expectation of fast medical service. Not needed at all. I carry one anyway as well tho
You guys are the biggest larpers on this website, just wow none of you has ever been outside their basement and you are fantasizing about saving your life with a tourniquet innawoods lmao
>Do you need a tourniquet like picrel in your bag?
Me personally, no but maybe if you are a hunter or lumberjack or do some activities where a tq isn't out of the realm of possibilities
Pills in plastic baggies or keep them in their original bottles for the dosage information and labeling? Is one of those 7 day pill cases a happy medium?
if im bikepacking, or bringing something like an axe/machete (car camping, bushcraft, hunting etc.) where the possibility of a massive hemorrhage event is possible
Backpacking? No. Actually, maybe during hunting season if there's a lot in the area lol
A tourniquet is a last resort, and while it can save your life, you're probably going to do irreversible damage to your limb. You should learn basic first aid, and attempt that first, before you ever try a tourniquet.
Secondly a tourniquet is incredibly easy to make. Literally a small rope and anything sticklike makes ones just as effective.
I've more of a travelling pharmacist kit for car camping. Sure I have gauze and bandages galore but also 250 tabs of ibuprofen, antacids, peptobismol, anti diarrheal, burn and itch creams, etc. People need those more often and no one wants to endure an outting when they have the real bads.
It’s amazing how many morons are saying don’t use a tourniquet. Use a fricking tourniquet, if you don’t know how to use one and not have one within reach at all times you’re a dumbass. Keep one in your car because you can get in a fricking car accident, or you can come across another car accident. It’s a basic piece of equipment that will and does save countless lives. Fricking use it. By it I mean a North American Rescue CAT tourniquet, not a shitty one. They’re only like $15. Imagine bleeding out and your final though is ‘damn I wish I bought a fricking $15 tourniquet and put it in my pocket’. Don’t forget to watch a fricking israeliteTube video to learn how to use it, and practice. b***h
>spending $15 on special poop of fabric
Just use a fricking belt, or guy ropes or paracord or a shoelace or your shirt rolled up
Stupid fricking citiots
If there is a lot of blood quickly, TQ.
If you can see your pulse in the blood, TQ.
If you can't find your limb where it is supposed to be, TQ.
If bleeding is minimal you should have some time to look into other methods like packing or just pressure. The Stop the Bleed classes I've been to have all stressed that TQs will not cause limb amputation.
if I need a tq, I am also going to need a sat phone or a beacon so people can find my body/person.
if i'm just somewhere where a cell phone still gets reception, the need is very low but would still be nicer to have just in case than not have.
lets put it this way, if you need it, you fricking need it now, the time between rescue/getting help would mean you bleed out, then who gives a shit if you frick the limb up, your ass is still alive.
I'm a weekend warrior so I don't carry one, but I'd probably take it for longer, more secluded hikes with difficult terrain.
What happens if you get hurt on the weekend though? All it takes is one time.
Well, I just never prep for the worst, because the chance of that happening is so low. I can make a shitty one out of things that are next to my FAK though.
I'm bikepacking and I thought bringing a tourniquet would be overkill. Then I saw this video which scared me to death.
I still don't understand how this happened exactly, how the frick is this possible? I think I remember some people saying that the guy had a previous injury in this area of his body so this crash did some magic stuff and cut his artery.
I bought a cat Tourniquet after seing this shit, but I still keep it at home when I go outside because I'm a moron (though I have an Israeli bandage in my medikit that can double as a shitty tourniquet I guess).
Please convince me to bring the tourniquet on my outings, what kind of injury can happen in the wood that would require one?
A belt makes a tourniquet, could even be some cordage or zipties in a pinch
The wound seems to be in his high inner thigh. Looks too high to apply a tourniquet well. What they did, putting pressure on it and packing it is probably best.
Yes, this is also what I've read from the comments on this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZgw0rY1408
So basically if you're alone and you have that kind of injury, the only thing you can try to do is to pack the wound with some hemostatic agent like some Celox gauze?
Pretty much that first. Call for help. Though if you're this unlucky and your alone in the area I doubt you can pack it tighly enough and keep enough pressure to make it.
Maybe a pressure (Israeli) bandage could help a little after you tried packing it?
You can self apply and tighten them, they can actually serve as a backup tourniquet from what I've heard (if you twist it every time you wrap it) but in that case they would apply direct pressure on the wound itself so I guess that would be good.
Anyway, I hope that guy got terribly unlucky for that kind of injury to happen on a bicycle, this is pretty terrifying.
>Cedric and friends were training on the path for a race in the coming days when the accident happened
>Cedric actually had to press his artery down onto the femur with his fingers to slow the bleeding enough that he wouldn't die quickly
>His friends called for a helicopter but the dispatch sent firefighters expecting a his to be just another bike accident though the friend argued otherwise
>Firefighters arrived and took the phone and told the dispatch to send a helicopter as this was way out of what they could handle
>There happened to be a helicopter training exercise with a physician at the time who took the call
>Cedric had laid bleeding out for like an hour iirc before he got on the coptor
>The physician said he had only ever seen 3 femoral artery tears in his life and cedric was the only one to survive
>Cedric went on to finish the race three years later and then retired
god damn I thought I was desensitized and wasn't squeamish to shit after seeing 3 guys 1 hammer but this vid fricks me up
I carry a CAT, gauze, muslin bandages, quikclot, some tape, a sharpie, moleskin, and some assorted band-aides.
I hate muslins.
>Post those aid kits boyos.
As you request.
>filename
kek
is that the 127 hours thing?
Yes
literally just leukotape p, band aids, alcohol wipes, ibuprofen, bacitracin, and imodium. if you're in a position where you'll actually bleed out without a tourniquet, you're fricked. if you're bringing fricktons of extra weight alike this moron you probably don't go out at all
I dunno. Most of these gays are just fat kids who walk a few hundred feet from their cars and frick around shooting guns or chopping wood with a large knife, so maybe it’s not a bad idea.
That assumes they could apply it.
Forget tourniquets, bring chest seals. But only tactical ones. Chest seals are the new hotness!
>I hate muslins.
Allah hu Angmar!
These are the original tools he use. The madman could wield two knifes at the same time. What a hero.
HahahAHAHAHA!
Tourist. Lurk moar or go back.
Are you even still supposed to use tourniquets? The medical community's gone back and forth on if they're effective more often than misused a lot lately. Its pretty easy for misuse of them to lead to amputations. Does anyone know where the ~~*experts*~~ currently stand?
Backpacking: 99% of the time no. Only around falling hazards like crevasses. You can easily improvise one by cutting up a piece of gear if you need one for someone else. Doesn't work so well on yourself for obvious reasons.
Bushcraft, Car Camping: why not throw one in the trunk? Yeah I'd keep one in the first aid kit.
on the rarest of occasions this situation presents itself, I think having one would be nicer than not
>misuse a tourniquet, lose a limb but live
>not use a tourniquet, die
Pick your poison, live to see amputation or die.
>lose a limb
Isn't this a myth anyway?
Not exactly. It was based on lessons learned from ww1 and 2 where patients might spend hours in a trench or a dugout before being stretchered to a first aid post and even longer before reaching a field hospital (with the tq often left on in the meantime).
There are serious risks with tourniquet application and they should not be used for no reason but if other methods of bleeding control have failed (or if you've got an artery spraying blood across the room, or if you're under fire and need to evac) then they're the best option.
If applied correctly then the risk of any complications (nerve damage etc) is pretty unlikely up to 2h and the risk of limb necrosis requiring amputation is minimal for a couple of hours past that. There are other issues (reperfusion injury, pain, potential worsening of bleeding if poorly applied) but they're a tool worth knowing how to use.
If you're interested, this article is well written and reasonably accurate.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2660095/
Thanks anon, I'll read that.
TQs aren't really that dangerous, it takes a while for a TQ to start causing permanent damage and even longer for it to cause amputation level damage.
If you need a TQ, it's better to lose a limb then to exsanguinate, and I don't think the average moron would be able to deal with a TQ being applied for as long as it would need to be on to cause permanent damage unless it was absolutely necessary, those fricks hurt.
AFAIK from my research on solo chainsaw work, tourniquets and combat bandages are considered mandatory for a portable kit.
They do not amputate as the meme says and it's better than dying
The amount of time it takes a tourniquet to kill a limb/require amputation is measured in days, not hours. If youre using a manufactured (not improvised) tourniquet all you really need to remember is to put it above the joint, above the wound. Dont put it on/too close too the wound. Tighten until you can not feel a pulse/bleeding stops.
yes always. all the time. it weighs nothing
You can 3d print one with some webbing and sewing too. Personally I don’t plan on getting shot but I don’t wear bright orange outside either.
https://3dprintingforukraine.com/
>"You can 3D print a plastic stick"
Whoa
There’s a specific pressure you need to keep your body cells and veins working, pathogens and dead cells out of your blood stream, and avoid crushing pain. There’s a very good chance you’ll end up needing to amputate anyway with an improvised tourniquet.
I'm not planning on using some scam hosted for a globalist ploy anyway
Pretty sure if you’re bleeding to death you would make a deal with satan himself but ok chud
I posted a picture of my actual tournys, not some knockoffs- "chut". Not my fault you are reactionary and wait for a lack of supply and heightened demand to get an interest in stuff
i once took a work related first aid course where my teacher said you should never use antiseptic in any occasion just let the bleeding do the job
apprently it also worsens the bleeding because it prevents the blood from coagulating
no mention of wound cleaning inflammation whatsoever, he had a laugh when i asked and after that everyone else laughed at me too
If it’s a big enough wound it will clean itself, sure. And some first aid solutions like superglue will prevent healing. But I don’t think they knew what they were talking about.
he said he had over 30 years of experience and i believe him because i remembered him from my high school dont do drugs seminar 20 years ago
would have asked about the superglue too but after he laughed at me and made the whole class or grown men make fun of me i didn´t really feel like it anymore
It’s silly if a grown man can’t answer a question and feels the need to ridicule to prove his authority in a classroom.
To add to this, it's really fricking gay when even SNCOs or instructors spread misconceptions about pre-hospital treatment. All it does is breed dangerous ignorance. People approach me with all kinds of questions, I try to answer them all, whether they're stupid questions or not. The only questions that I think are dumb are the ones that elicit the response "Ask your GP or PCP." I'm not a doctor.
Don't feel embarrassed to ask.
>no mention of wound cleaning inflammation whatsoever, he had a laugh when i asked and after that everyone else laughed at me too
t.
what no
I would not 3D print a piece of lifesaving equipment unless I could not buy the real thing.
The effectiveness of a purpose made TQ exceeds anything improvised.
If you have a good TQ and you see an amputation or arterial bleed I would not bother with any other method, not if I had a TQ on me. You can absolutely apply a TQ to yourself, although arm is harder than leg for obvious reason.
I have a couple from my Ifak when I was in the military, it lives in my pack for the freak chance I trip while bowhunting and put a broadhead through my leg or Dick Cheyney'd by some fricking fud.
No. A tourniquet is only useful for catastrophic bleeding, after ordinary methods of blood control have been attempted. You cannot effectively put a tourniquet on yourself.
I carry a tourniquet daily for work just in case I cut an artery with my chainsaw, but it's for someone else for use on me.
Anyway, in my PrepHole first aid kit:
>plaster strip, more versatile than individual plasters
>antiseptic cream
>vaseline tin, useful for lips in cold weather, sealing minor wounds, managing chafing, and preventing corrosion on chinesium electrical components
>400 mg ibuprofen (it's anti-inflammatory so it's better than paracetamol/acetaminophen)
>loperamide, just in case I drink some funky water. Never needed it but I'd rather have it anyway.
>allergy pills, non-drowsy
>suture strips just in case I accidentally slash my hand open again
>tweezers
>nail scissors, for trimming nails, hangnails, and cutting the plaster strip
For work, the same plus:
>tourniquet
>three israeli bandages (three is the minimum to deal with a common impaling wound), these are simply the best available bandage on the market. Trust the israelites when it comes to this anons, they've spent the last 70 years getting shot at in Gaza so they know how to make a decent bandage
>haemostatic dressings (always take an allergy pill if you're using one either on yourself or somebody else, they're very irritating to your mucosal tissues and can trigger anaphylaxis)
>You cannot effectively put a tourniquet on yourself.
But you can.
T. Quad zero.
>A tourniquet is only useful for catastrophic bleeding, after ordinary methods of blood control have been attempted.
True. A lot of folks are too quick to apply a tq these days without attempting to stem bleeding using direct pressure first. I blame the .mil influence, the risk of getting shot while providing care changes their dynamic vs a civilian situation.
>You cannot effectively put a tourniquet on yourself.
False. You absolutely can. I've treated a guy who managed to completely amputate his hand/half his forearm with some piece of farm equipment - he stayed conscious long enough to stumble up to the house, find his FAK in the bathroom room, apply a tourniquet, apply a second tourniquet because it was still oozing and phone 911. According to the EMTs he was as white as a sheet when they got there but still upright.
It's not something I'd count on but it's possible.
Boo boo bus attendant here. You should absolutely have one in your home first aid kit, they don't go bad. It can take us upwards of 30 min to get to you and it can save your life. You can 100% apply your own tourniquet. I keep one in my chainsaw kit and chest rig. There are different ones but if you buy the CAT tourniquet (best one on the market) you should be able to. Those latex tourniquets are great if you have someone else to put it on you (otherwise avoid it), and can run double duty as a Israeli bandage with some pads on the wound.
>all of the seething
CAPTCHA PMTAA
I have one in my bicycle medical kit. Never had to use anything more than a gauze, but for the few euros it costs it's worth it with the risk of cutting your leg/arm against a guard rail/etc.
Standard kit from Amazon with a few things added.
One of those folding instant casts is better, these are for serious trauma with the expectation of fast medical service. Not needed at all. I carry one anyway as well tho
>fast medical service
>PrepHole
Do you know where you are right now grandpa?
National forest campground for sure, so I can bring my rv and grill. The hosts keep away undesirables for the most part so Its more enjoyable
Yes in the gunshot wound kit.
No in the regular smaller one.
You guys are the biggest larpers on this website, just wow none of you has ever been outside their basement and you are fantasizing about saving your life with a tourniquet innawoods lmao
Why is this board so obsessed with larping? I hear this term at least once every other post now. The frick happened to this board?
Easy way to bait/troll
I've been shot at during hunting season. some people just blast at anything that moves apparently
Paul Harrell got shot at in the bush as well
same, i think the people that don't think this is possible don't spend much time PrepHole or they've just gotten very lucky.
Or they don't live on the east coast.
If I am carrying a gun, I carry a TQ
If am not, then I’m not.
Simple as
>Do you need a tourniquet like picrel in your bag?
Me personally, no but maybe if you are a hunter or lumberjack or do some activities where a tq isn't out of the realm of possibilities
i have a separate kit specifically for gunshot wounds i carry during hunting season. it has one in it. otherwise i figure i could just use my belt.
I carry one in my aid kit that's in my climbing gear. I generally don't carry one for day hikes.
Pills in plastic baggies or keep them in their original bottles for the dosage information and labeling? Is one of those 7 day pill cases a happy medium?
Pills in dry (any) containers away from sunlight and temperature extremes.
if im bikepacking, or bringing something like an axe/machete (car camping, bushcraft, hunting etc.) where the possibility of a massive hemorrhage event is possible
Backpacking? No. Actually, maybe during hunting season if there's a lot in the area lol
I've a full trauma kit, including pop out circ and airway packs in the truck is
But you don't bring a EkG?
medical instruments
based tool poster
Thank you, friend.
wrong tools
A tourniquet is a last resort, and while it can save your life, you're probably going to do irreversible damage to your limb. You should learn basic first aid, and attempt that first, before you ever try a tourniquet.
Secondly a tourniquet is incredibly easy to make. Literally a small rope and anything sticklike makes ones just as effective.
I've more of a travelling pharmacist kit for car camping. Sure I have gauze and bandages galore but also 250 tabs of ibuprofen, antacids, peptobismol, anti diarrheal, burn and itch creams, etc. People need those more often and no one wants to endure an outting when they have the real bads.
It’s amazing how many morons are saying don’t use a tourniquet. Use a fricking tourniquet, if you don’t know how to use one and not have one within reach at all times you’re a dumbass. Keep one in your car because you can get in a fricking car accident, or you can come across another car accident. It’s a basic piece of equipment that will and does save countless lives. Fricking use it. By it I mean a North American Rescue CAT tourniquet, not a shitty one. They’re only like $15. Imagine bleeding out and your final though is ‘damn I wish I bought a fricking $15 tourniquet and put it in my pocket’. Don’t forget to watch a fricking israeliteTube video to learn how to use it, and practice. b***h
>shill for useless garbage
>name the j*wTube
>thinks ur sneaky
>sucks baby dicks
Just go
>spending $15 on special poop of fabric
Just use a fricking belt, or guy ropes or paracord or a shoelace or your shirt rolled up
Stupid fricking citiots
>moron who doesn't understand how pressure or constriction works
Sure pal, you do that method for you
Got some science to back that up? If belts were just as good, than TCCC would have said so.
Are you walking through the woods or through fallujah?
If there is a lot of blood quickly, TQ.
If you can see your pulse in the blood, TQ.
If you can't find your limb where it is supposed to be, TQ.
If bleeding is minimal you should have some time to look into other methods like packing or just pressure. The Stop the Bleed classes I've been to have all stressed that TQs will not cause limb amputation.
if I need a tq, I am also going to need a sat phone or a beacon so people can find my body/person.
if i'm just somewhere where a cell phone still gets reception, the need is very low but would still be nicer to have just in case than not have.
lets put it this way, if you need it, you fricking need it now, the time between rescue/getting help would mean you bleed out, then who gives a shit if you frick the limb up, your ass is still alive.
Do not bump this thread.
This whole thread is filled with the most genuinely uneducated bunch of frickwits I have ever had the displeasure of reading.
Please, seek out a "stop the bleed" course or at least watch one on youtube.
The answer is Quick-Clot(R).
You can thank me later.