it's Top Gun you joyless chimps, you're not watching it for a deep emotional plot or gay shit like that, you're watching if for the sick as frick scenes of jets doing cool shit.
go back to watching 4 hour long french black and white paint drying movies if you want deep shit
>he killed disney and thats what matters
So instead one group of pedo satanists other group of satanist made more money.
Die of cancer you fricking turbosoylent coooooonsumer
You could do both.
First Top Gun had everything, cool scenes, was much more realistic and had top of the line craft filmed live. And had young pretty actors, no some old farts.
Modern media is just pure shit, washed out slurpy.
>was much more realistic
lol
if you actually watched the film you would know these things >and had top of the line craft filmed live
every single flying scene aside from the Darkstar, F14 and Su.57 was filmed with real airplanes
>And had young pretty actors, no some old farts
out of the main cast only Tom and JenCon are old, the rest of the main cast are pretty young
There is nothing fairy tale about Top Gun. Pilots train, pilots crash F-14 in very Tomcat fashion, F-14 pilots shoot themselves some red communist Migs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_air_battle_near_Tobruk
Entire Maverick plot is build on fantasy >we can't use spam of cruise missiles like US does since Desert Storm .... we just can't mkay?
>I just ask evasive questions because I actually don't have actual arguments
Why can't US hit bunker with cruise missiles again? Don't say "magic".
2 years ago
Anonymous
In the bowl, cruise missiles couldnt hit the right angle and area was jammed
2 years ago
Anonymous
But cruise missiles can't be jammed and have adjustable angle of approach.
P.S. Technically you can jam DSMAC guidance with blinding laser... but so can be done with human pilot.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Correct
2 years ago
Anonymous
There really isn't a reason. It has alternatives to GPS guidance. Literally just punch in the coordinates and shoot. Inertial guidance was used in U.S. aircraft for like 50 years and is still a backup system on most of our aircraft. There isn't a reason that TLAMs weren't used other than it wasn't a good movie plot. Also, the anon that mentioned the B2 ... that's probably the better option to go with, but TLAMs would work.
>we just can't mkay?
because then there would be no fricking more you dense moron.
they used F18s because they couldn't film in F35s and because Tom wanted actual footage of real planes doing cools shit
2 years ago
Anonymous
That is the point they invented completely moronic fake fairy tail excuse to create plot.
When they could've easily make realistic plot without such.
But modern onions chugging hollyjews are too lazy and dumb. Why even try if you will chug onions anyway?
2 years ago
Anonymous
are you aware that there is a thing called suspension of disbelief?
it doesnt matter how moronic the plot is if the action scenes were fun and well executed, which they were
2 years ago
Anonymous
You must also love capeshit. Frick off moron
2 years ago
Anonymous
>C-capeshit!!
Lmao, thanks for revealing that you are a moron brainlet contrarian who hasn't watched the movie.
In fact, the movie is the anthitesis to capeshit because it isn't a bland dogshit production line movie written by committee and some algorithm, but a labour of love that shows the cast and crew went to great lengths to film something exciting a fun
2 years ago
Anonymous
But it's literally capeshit sequel of previously great kino.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Ok, moron explain how it's capeshit
2 years ago
Anonymous
Fantastic assumptions and "superpowers" of old fart.
2 years ago
Anonymous
But the premise is extremely dumb like capeshit
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Tom wanted actual footage of real planes doing cools shit
And yet there's next to none except maybe some wienerpit plans... May as well use whatever plane you want if it's all CGI.
2 years ago
Anonymous
you're moronic
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Anonymous
2 years ago
Anonymous
2 years ago
Anonymous
God i need the torrent to come out so badly just to watch again that shot of the Tomahawk swarm flying over the F18
2 years ago
Anonymous
i love that Hollywood still needs to add parkinsons cam to convince themselves the motion is visible. flying in a jet is smooth as frick.
2 years ago
Anonymous
you're moronic
2 years ago
Anonymous
There's thousand of unused flying footage they didn't used, director's cut will be kino
2 years ago
Anonymous
is it bad that I would put my penis in Phoenix?
2 years ago
Anonymous
yes sweety, it means you're str*ight
do. better.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Imagine not knowing anything about the making of the film, which was hyped to hell and back because it's the only example of this level of actor participation, and commenting any way. I mean how in the frick did you miss that every scene they could do for real, they did for real with the actors in the rear seat?
2 years ago
Anonymous
It was done years ago for a mediocre french movie and they never pretended it was the movie of the century, just an action film with 100% real scenes. American hubris is one thing but claiming it was 100% real is a blatant lie.
2 years ago
Anonymous
No one said "100% real" ffs. But it was not all CGI.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>No one said "100% real" ffs.
You missed the hype on the internet of the world wide web, millions of normies are convinced that Tom and his friends did it for real. >But it was not all CGI.
Probably 80% was cgi in the end. And I'm ok with that, cinema does not have to be real life all the time, I just don't like how it's promoted.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nah theres no cgi, my friend who works in the industry confirmed
37% of english words are taken from french directly.
2 years ago
Anonymous
English really is a Second-hand Language...
2 years ago
Anonymous
Enlish goes to dark foreign alleys at night and mugs other languages for vocabulary and loose grammar.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>English really is a Second-hand Language...
Well at least it gives frogs like me the illusion we can speak another one properly since its vocabulary is full of french words.
Enlish goes to dark foreign alleys at night and mugs other languages for vocabulary and loose grammar.
Yep. Sums it up.
Beware the spooky angloman in back alleys at 12 o' bong.
Because Top Gun is the movie equivalent of Ace Combat and vice versa.
It's not supposed to be realistic, it's supposed to be radical.
There isn't an airtight reason given in the movie but the whole thing is kind of supposed to be a last hurrah for Maverick. The opening act makes no real bones about the fact that the role of the ace fighter pilot is on borrowed time.
>vatnik
I'll have you know that I am John Bluecorn from Carrollton oblast.
The mission parameters in the movie are straight up vidyagame shit and the whole thing was a style over substance stuntfest.
I had a great time and would definitely reccomend seeing the movie in theaters just for the jet sounds but the way the mission is executed in the movie is pure fantasy.
Because Top Gun is the movie equivalent of Ace Combat and vice versa.
It's not supposed to be realistic, it's supposed to be radical.
There isn't an airtight reason given in the movie but the whole thing is kind of supposed to be a last hurrah for Maverick. The opening act makes no real bones about the fact that the role of the ace fighter pilot is on borrowed time.
I thought it was kinda weird they didn't do more than that. The one guy says something like >Pretty soon manned airflight will end
near the beginning, but then nothing ever comes of it later. I would've expected there to be some drone-piloted version of the mission that they had to prove only humans could do. But instead they just kinda let it drop.
Maybe the missiles' trajectory wouldn't allow them to get down into that bowl to hit the facility entrance. Maybe the AA missiles could intercept the missiles.
One, Cruise missiles are designed to flyi low to the ground. Two, cruise missile strategy is to fire enough to overwhelm the anti-missile defenses. If the enemy has 100 missiles to defend then you fire 130 cruise missiles so you know at least 30 will hit the target. Did you think the U.S. just fires huge quantities of cruise missiles for fun?
>Did you think the U.S. just fires huge quantities of cruise missiles for fun?
They did in 2003. Shock and Awe. So yes. The U.S. does just fire huge quantities of cruise missiles for fun.
>movie is an hour and 45 minutes of tomahawk missiles being spammed from unmanned aerial drones
Wow, how interesting. I could just look up AC-130 footage on liveleak for free, but sure, I'll pay for an overpriced movie ticket, greasy shitty theater food, and sit in a crowded fart-accumulation chamber with pavement apes to watch that.
I just say in my mind that they only had limited assets in area within the available window, and the enemy's ability to surge assets to gain local control was too much of a risk to gamble obviously redeployment other assets at a sprint. So they decided to TLAM the airfield with all available missiles to neutralise the enemy's best and most flexible capability in the area which could have threatened the CBG itself, whilst emplying training and tactics to mitigate the SAM threat. F35s were flying cover for the battlegroup over international waters as command was not willing to risk an airframe going down and being recovered over land on such a high risk mission
In the mission briefing it's explained that the area is GPS jammed by a magical device (I wonder if it's possible IRL, and if it is, the emiter is certainly vulnerable to SEAD), and cruise missiles aren't accurate enough to hit a small vent by inertia guidance alone, especially in the middle of that mountain, so you need laser guided bombs. Same for a squadron of F-35 bombing from high altitude, the angle wouldn't let it drop a bomb through this small hole. Let's ignore the existence of bunker buster bombs or stuff like the MOAB too.
The truth is that they simply didn't have the right to put real F-35 on screen, and the Navy certainly didn't want to risk destroying that kind of valuable asset by doing movie stunts, which is understandable.
>Cruise missiles have tercom and dsmac guidance exactly for apocalyptic nuke war no satellites scenario.
Yeah but is that precise enough to fly through something the size of a bathroom window?
>The truth is that they simply didn't have the right to put real F-35 on screen, and the Navy certainly didn't want to risk destroying that kind of valuable asset by doing movie stunts, which is understandable.
The truth is that if they used the F35 in the movie, all the pilots would have died because they would have assumed their stealth tech works as Lockheed advertised and then when the realized that it didn't actually work, they would have all been shot down by Iranian missile defenses and the movie would have ended. The final cut would have been Iceman dying as his raspy voice whispered, "BVR targeting is a meme! Why did I fall for it."
Because modern Hollywood is gay and broken.
You can easily write doable scenario when US old pilots fly last generation fighters (proxy war aircrew mercs anyone?).
But Hollywood ain't even trying.
Tomahawks are too innacurate for the bunker and can be shot down by SAMs. Of course the real reason is it's a movie about fighter pilots not cruise missiles.
There was meme Technology:TM: stopping a conventional strike.
A B2 at 45'000 feet dropping a GBU-57 guided onto the target by special forces would probably have been the "real" plan but that doesn't really make for a fighter jet movie.
The reasoning was solid enough for Normies and the mission profile wasn't anything like the most egregious error in the film.
Spoiler
Movie plot was this uranium processing plant was in a canyon surrounded by 10 miles of SAMs and gps scramblers which made the f35 and f22 not capable for the mission. Plus the adversary had 5th gen planes. They had to use old shit to manually fire a missile into a death star scenario sized air duct twice, once to blow it open and the second to blow the bunker.
To op, reason why didnt didnt spam missiles is because the area was so small and they wouldnt have got the follow up shot. But also stupid movie plot.
>Movie plot was this uranium processing plant was in a canyon surrounded by 10 miles of SAMs and gps scramblers which made the f35 and f22 not capable for the mission
What is complete bollocks.
Even more bollocks. that you can fly old planes in area tight covered with SAMs.
Basically dumb zoomer the movie.
>Even more bollocks. that you can fly old planes in area tight covered with SAMs.
It was a key point that they had to hug the ground all the way in and would likely die on the way out because of briefly climbing above the radar floor.
Modern SAMs have no radar floor, zooomie. It not Vietnam anymore. At best you have radar horizon ie line of sight to radar limitations but SAMs that have visual on aircraft can shot aircraft, tightly located SAMs would leave no way.
>F35 high altitude bombing was out because of the angle and GPS jammers.
GPS jammers would have no effect of F-35/F-22 because they have INS navigation system corrected by radar and both JDAMS/LGB has adjustable angle of approaches.
Incorrect. What is needed to target fast moving targets from a radar standpoint won't work against slower moving targets at lower altitudes. Also, you have tons of ground clutter that will frick up the radar picture. Don't believe me, take a cheap marine radar and run it close to the land and see what happens. You can't overcome physics.
F22 is out because of the Air Force could do it the Navy wouldn’t be involved.
F35 high altitude bombing was out because of the angle and GPS jammers. F35 canyon run is out because it not as maneuverable in the same as as an F18, specifically with nose authority.
Not gonna say it’s airtight reasoning but it’s good enough unless you’re just determined to hate the movie on principle.
>Why didnt they just spam tomahawk on nuke bunker?
Could tomahawks hit a target that precisely with GPS jammed? They made a big deal out of the size/difficulty of the target and the need to use lasers guided bombs.
>Why didnt they just tomahawk the anti air missiles?
Too many installations?
I mean, is it? All GPS is is receiving a pings with a timestamp, comparing to the timestamp you received it to judge distance to that satellite, comparing to other satellites triangulating a position. It’s not out of the realm of possibility to spoof something like that, not sure why you think it is. Electronic warfare exists.
>Could tomahawks hit a target that precisely with GPS jammed?
Of course. Tomahawk in Gulf War had no GPS guidance.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TERCOM#DSMAC
Nor GPS jamming can stop F-35 or F-22 it would be just mild annoyance.
I mean, there's kind of a reason for that. If you've seen what your average IDF grunt does to tanks you'd see. They'd only be slightly above the regional average, which given their size and location I don't think would be enough to last forever.
if "iran" had any radar worth its weight, they would be pointed out to sea, and they absolutely would have detected a giant ass blob of cruise missiles incoming
This is probably unpopular, but the strengths of both Top Gun movies are found in the characters and their emotional journeys. They're really movies about male friendship, competition and the stress of performance in high-consequence scenarios. The premise really isn't anything to worry about if you have the rest of the pieces in place.
Not very. The premise of that movie was just >Guys go to Top Gun to get trained >Later there's an unrelated dogfight
Sure it's believable, but that's because it's trying literally nothing.
The training scenes were the best for me, honestly. I really liked seeing Maverick fail these guys in interesting ways. I also really enjoyed the bird strike scene because of the film's attention to detail on her attempt to get the engine going again.
The movie even used the lever at the bottom of the stick that cuts the g-limiter when they were doing extreme high g maneuvers. That was pretty cool to see.
Because you touch yourself at night.
no ur mum
Tomahawks touch me at night.
why didn’t they use drones?
haven’t seen this btw
BECAUSE THEY JUST CANT OK!!! JUST CONSOOOM, DONT THINK!!!
Because the movies is pure fiction. A Tomahawk is not faster than a F18.
>why didn’t they use drones?
That was the counterpoint of the whole movie.
>Because the movies is pure fiction. A Tomahawk is not faster than a F18.
did you know that f-18s can slow down by reducing their throttle setting
>B-BUUUUHH it not realisml!!!!111!!!
it's Top Gun you joyless chimps, you're not watching it for a deep emotional plot or gay shit like that, you're watching if for the sick as frick scenes of jets doing cool shit.
go back to watching 4 hour long french black and white paint drying movies if you want deep shit
this, he killed disney and thats what matters
>he killed disney and thats what matters
So instead one group of pedo satanists other group of satanist made more money.
Die of cancer you fricking turbosoylent coooooonsumer
Can't bruise the Cruise namegay
pathetic, is that all your 3 working brain cells can think of?
>3 working brain
thats 2.5 more than namegays have
Maybe so sir, but not today.
holy frick seething namegay btfo
You could do both.
First Top Gun had everything, cool scenes, was much more realistic and had top of the line craft filmed live. And had young pretty actors, no some old farts.
Modern media is just pure shit, washed out slurpy.
>was much more realistic
lol
if you actually watched the film you would know these things
>and had top of the line craft filmed live
every single flying scene aside from the Darkstar, F14 and Su.57 was filmed with real airplanes
>And had young pretty actors, no some old farts
out of the main cast only Tom and JenCon are old, the rest of the main cast are pretty young
There is nothing fairy tale about Top Gun. Pilots train, pilots crash F-14 in very Tomcat fashion, F-14 pilots shoot themselves some red communist Migs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_air_battle_near_Tobruk
Entire Maverick plot is build on fantasy >we can't use spam of cruise missiles like US does since Desert Storm .... we just can't mkay?
So, did you actually watch the first topgun?
>I just ask evasive questions because I actually don't have actual arguments
Why can't US hit bunker with cruise missiles again? Don't say "magic".
In the bowl, cruise missiles couldnt hit the right angle and area was jammed
But cruise missiles can't be jammed and have adjustable angle of approach.
P.S. Technically you can jam DSMAC guidance with blinding laser... but so can be done with human pilot.
Correct
There really isn't a reason. It has alternatives to GPS guidance. Literally just punch in the coordinates and shoot. Inertial guidance was used in U.S. aircraft for like 50 years and is still a backup system on most of our aircraft. There isn't a reason that TLAMs weren't used other than it wasn't a good movie plot. Also, the anon that mentioned the B2 ... that's probably the better option to go with, but TLAMs would work.
>we just can't mkay?
because then there would be no fricking more you dense moron.
they used F18s because they couldn't film in F35s and because Tom wanted actual footage of real planes doing cools shit
That is the point they invented completely moronic fake fairy tail excuse to create plot.
When they could've easily make realistic plot without such.
But modern onions chugging hollyjews are too lazy and dumb. Why even try if you will chug onions anyway?
are you aware that there is a thing called suspension of disbelief?
it doesnt matter how moronic the plot is if the action scenes were fun and well executed, which they were
You must also love capeshit. Frick off moron
>C-capeshit!!
Lmao, thanks for revealing that you are a moron brainlet contrarian who hasn't watched the movie.
In fact, the movie is the anthitesis to capeshit because it isn't a bland dogshit production line movie written by committee and some algorithm, but a labour of love that shows the cast and crew went to great lengths to film something exciting a fun
But it's literally capeshit sequel of previously great kino.
Ok, moron explain how it's capeshit
Fantastic assumptions and "superpowers" of old fart.
But the premise is extremely dumb like capeshit
>Tom wanted actual footage of real planes doing cools shit
And yet there's next to none except maybe some wienerpit plans... May as well use whatever plane you want if it's all CGI.
you're moronic
God i need the torrent to come out so badly just to watch again that shot of the Tomahawk swarm flying over the F18
i love that Hollywood still needs to add parkinsons cam to convince themselves the motion is visible. flying in a jet is smooth as frick.
There's thousand of unused flying footage they didn't used, director's cut will be kino
is it bad that I would put my penis in Phoenix?
yes sweety, it means you're str*ight
do. better.
Imagine not knowing anything about the making of the film, which was hyped to hell and back because it's the only example of this level of actor participation, and commenting any way. I mean how in the frick did you miss that every scene they could do for real, they did for real with the actors in the rear seat?
It was done years ago for a mediocre french movie and they never pretended it was the movie of the century, just an action film with 100% real scenes. American hubris is one thing but claiming it was 100% real is a blatant lie.
No one said "100% real" ffs. But it was not all CGI.
>No one said "100% real" ffs.
You missed the hype on the internet of the world wide web, millions of normies are convinced that Tom and his friends did it for real.
>But it was not all CGI.
Probably 80% was cgi in the end. And I'm ok with that, cinema does not have to be real life all the time, I just don't like how it's promoted.
Nah theres no cgi, my friend who works in the industry confirmed
>go back to watching 4 hour long french black and white paint drying movies if you want deep shit
>french black and white paint drying movies
Ok
By the way this movie very clearly influenced Top Gun Maverick on many accounts.
Basé et Chevalierducielpilulé
Subhuman language
37% of english words are taken from french directly.
English really is a Second-hand Language...
Enlish goes to dark foreign alleys at night and mugs other languages for vocabulary and loose grammar.
>English really is a Second-hand Language...
Well at least it gives frogs like me the illusion we can speak another one properly since its vocabulary is full of french words.
Yep. Sums it up.
Beware the spooky angloman in back alleys at 12 o' bong.
Because Top Gun is the movie equivalent of Ace Combat and vice versa.
It's not supposed to be realistic, it's supposed to be radical.
There isn't an airtight reason given in the movie but the whole thing is kind of supposed to be a last hurrah for Maverick. The opening act makes no real bones about the fact that the role of the ace fighter pilot is on borrowed time.
>The opening act makes no real bones about the fact that the role of the ace fighter pilot is on borrowed time.
>says vatnik
>he doesn't know
>yet
>vatnik
I'll have you know that I am John Bluecorn from Carrollton oblast.
The mission parameters in the movie are straight up vidyagame shit and the whole thing was a style over substance stuntfest.
I had a great time and would definitely reccomend seeing the movie in theaters just for the jet sounds but the way the mission is executed in the movie is pure fantasy.
Cope
DRONES?
I thought it was kinda weird they didn't do more than that. The one guy says something like
>Pretty soon manned airflight will end
near the beginning, but then nothing ever comes of it later. I would've expected there to be some drone-piloted version of the mission that they had to prove only humans could do. But instead they just kinda let it drop.
Go away with your dumb questions Satan. It's a movie.
as a boomer i would watch just to be jealous of tom cruise as a boomer physical specimen
Maybe the missiles' trajectory wouldn't allow them to get down into that bowl to hit the facility entrance. Maybe the AA missiles could intercept the missiles.
One, Cruise missiles are designed to flyi low to the ground. Two, cruise missile strategy is to fire enough to overwhelm the anti-missile defenses. If the enemy has 100 missiles to defend then you fire 130 cruise missiles so you know at least 30 will hit the target. Did you think the U.S. just fires huge quantities of cruise missiles for fun?
>Did you think the U.S. just fires huge quantities of cruise missiles for fun?
They did in 2003. Shock and Awe. So yes. The U.S. does just fire huge quantities of cruise missiles for fun.
>movie is an hour and 45 minutes of tomahawk missiles being spammed from unmanned aerial drones
Wow, how interesting. I could just look up AC-130 footage on liveleak for free, but sure, I'll pay for an overpriced movie ticket, greasy shitty theater food, and sit in a crowded fart-accumulation chamber with pavement apes to watch that.
> game is an hour and 45 minutes of staring at trigonometry and numbers
It can be fun if done right. Anything done right is fun.
>the movie's plot is literally the US military doing Israel's bidding
can't make this shit up
>Snowy boreal forest
>Su-57
>Middle east
Higher chance of being norks
it isn't all flat central iraq deserts
Half of Iran is mountainous terrain. They get quite a bit of snow.
Maevrick finds a legacy F14 on the enemy base tarmac. Doubt it is in North korea
it was explicitly iran. they weren't coy about it.
The norks don't have F-14s. Iran does, and it has snow-covered mountains too.
It's a homage to Star Wars.
Glad I wasn't the only person who thought that
C U T E
Pew pew.
I just say in my mind that they only had limited assets in area within the available window, and the enemy's ability to surge assets to gain local control was too much of a risk to gamble obviously redeployment other assets at a sprint. So they decided to TLAM the airfield with all available missiles to neutralise the enemy's best and most flexible capability in the area which could have threatened the CBG itself, whilst emplying training and tactics to mitigate the SAM threat. F35s were flying cover for the battlegroup over international waters as command was not willing to risk an airframe going down and being recovered over land on such a high risk mission
In the mission briefing it's explained that the area is GPS jammed by a magical device (I wonder if it's possible IRL, and if it is, the emiter is certainly vulnerable to SEAD), and cruise missiles aren't accurate enough to hit a small vent by inertia guidance alone, especially in the middle of that mountain, so you need laser guided bombs. Same for a squadron of F-35 bombing from high altitude, the angle wouldn't let it drop a bomb through this small hole. Let's ignore the existence of bunker buster bombs or stuff like the MOAB too.
The truth is that they simply didn't have the right to put real F-35 on screen, and the Navy certainly didn't want to risk destroying that kind of valuable asset by doing movie stunts, which is understandable.
It works too but it's headcanon.
Cruise missiles have tercom and dsmac guidance exactly for apocalyptic nuke war no satellites scenario. It's shit excuse of the shit writer.
>Cruise missiles have tercom and dsmac guidance exactly for apocalyptic nuke war no satellites scenario.
Yeah but is that precise enough to fly through something the size of a bathroom window?
>The truth is that they simply didn't have the right to put real F-35 on screen, and the Navy certainly didn't want to risk destroying that kind of valuable asset by doing movie stunts, which is understandable.
The truth is that if they used the F35 in the movie, all the pilots would have died because they would have assumed their stealth tech works as Lockheed advertised and then when the realized that it didn't actually work, they would have all been shot down by Iranian missile defenses and the movie would have ended. The final cut would have been Iceman dying as his raspy voice whispered, "BVR targeting is a meme! Why did I fall for it."
Your mother ever told you were "special"?
Because modern Hollywood is gay and broken.
You can easily write doable scenario when US old pilots fly last generation fighters (proxy war aircrew mercs anyone?).
But Hollywood ain't even trying.
Because Maverick died and in his death fantasy only he could save the day*
*I don't choose to believe that but everything is there for you to do so
Tomahawks are too innacurate for the bunker and can be shot down by SAMs. Of course the real reason is it's a movie about fighter pilots not cruise missiles.
There was meme Technology:TM: stopping a conventional strike.
A B2 at 45'000 feet dropping a GBU-57 guided onto the target by special forces would probably have been the "real" plan but that doesn't really make for a fighter jet movie.
The reasoning was solid enough for Normies and the mission profile wasn't anything like the most egregious error in the film.
t. SA2 acting like manpads.
Because there wouldn't be a movie then.
Because it's a navy recruitment ad
>friendless autists have to take apart a fun movie because it doesnt adhere to their autism
every time
Because recruitment is down 40% across the board and we need to trick kids into getting interested in military service.
>recruitment is down during peacetime
who would have thought
Because then the movie wouldn't be worth watching. And we wouldn't be able to see the beautiful sight of F-14s raping Su-57s in combat.
Spoiler
Movie plot was this uranium processing plant was in a canyon surrounded by 10 miles of SAMs and gps scramblers which made the f35 and f22 not capable for the mission. Plus the adversary had 5th gen planes. They had to use old shit to manually fire a missile into a death star scenario sized air duct twice, once to blow it open and the second to blow the bunker.
To op, reason why didnt didnt spam missiles is because the area was so small and they wouldnt have got the follow up shot. But also stupid movie plot.
>Movie plot was this uranium processing plant was in a canyon surrounded by 10 miles of SAMs and gps scramblers which made the f35 and f22 not capable for the mission
What is complete bollocks.
Even more bollocks. that you can fly old planes in area tight covered with SAMs.
Basically dumb zoomer the movie.
>Even more bollocks. that you can fly old planes in area tight covered with SAMs.
It was a key point that they had to hug the ground all the way in and would likely die on the way out because of briefly climbing above the radar floor.
Modern SAMs have no radar floor, zooomie. It not Vietnam anymore. At best you have radar horizon ie line of sight to radar limitations but SAMs that have visual on aircraft can shot aircraft, tightly located SAMs would leave no way.
>F35 high altitude bombing was out because of the angle and GPS jammers.
GPS jammers would have no effect of F-35/F-22 because they have INS navigation system corrected by radar and both JDAMS/LGB has adjustable angle of approaches.
Incorrect. What is needed to target fast moving targets from a radar standpoint won't work against slower moving targets at lower altitudes. Also, you have tons of ground clutter that will frick up the radar picture. Don't believe me, take a cheap marine radar and run it close to the land and see what happens. You can't overcome physics.
F22 is out because of the Air Force could do it the Navy wouldn’t be involved.
F35 high altitude bombing was out because of the angle and GPS jammers. F35 canyon run is out because it not as maneuverable in the same as as an F18, specifically with nose authority.
Not gonna say it’s airtight reasoning but it’s good enough unless you’re just determined to hate the movie on principle.
>Why didnt they just spam tomahawk on nuke bunker?
Could tomahawks hit a target that precisely with GPS jammed? They made a big deal out of the size/difficulty of the target and the need to use lasers guided bombs.
>Why didnt they just tomahawk the anti air missiles?
Too many installations?
>GPS jammed
Utter bullshit lol
I mean, is it? All GPS is is receiving a pings with a timestamp, comparing to the timestamp you received it to judge distance to that satellite, comparing to other satellites triangulating a position. It’s not out of the realm of possibility to spoof something like that, not sure why you think it is. Electronic warfare exists.
>Could tomahawks hit a target that precisely with GPS jammed?
Of course. Tomahawk in Gulf War had no GPS guidance.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TERCOM#DSMAC
Nor GPS jamming can stop F-35 or F-22 it would be just mild annoyance.
because they need people to paint their ships and swab the decks
Because realistic warfare doesn’t make for an interesting movie
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Opera
israelites mog the frick out of every other ME nation its not even funy
I mean, there's kind of a reason for that. If you've seen what your average IDF grunt does to tanks you'd see. They'd only be slightly above the regional average, which given their size and location I don't think would be enough to last forever.
canada is americas best friend. look at a map.
I wish it was F22s 🙁
if "iran" had any radar worth its weight, they would be pointed out to sea, and they absolutely would have detected a giant ass blob of cruise missiles incoming
But they did send in a “Cruise” missile OP.
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because then there wouldn't be a movie, satan
>NOOOOOOO YOU CANT MAKE AN ABOVE AVERAGE PREMISE ANYMORE!!! JUST TURN OFF YOUR BRAIN!!! CONSOOM
This is probably unpopular, but the strengths of both Top Gun movies are found in the characters and their emotional journeys. They're really movies about male friendship, competition and the stress of performance in high-consequence scenarios. The premise really isn't anything to worry about if you have the rest of the pieces in place.
The first one had a compelling story so suck my dick
Not very. The premise of that movie was just
>Guys go to Top Gun to get trained
>Later there's an unrelated dogfight
Sure it's believable, but that's because it's trying literally nothing.
This is the correct take, all others can cope, seethe, etc.
The training scenes were the best for me, honestly. I really liked seeing Maverick fail these guys in interesting ways. I also really enjoyed the bird strike scene because of the film's attention to detail on her attempt to get the engine going again.
The movie even used the lever at the bottom of the stick that cuts the g-limiter when they were doing extreme high g maneuvers. That was pretty cool to see.