they do tho https://edition.cnn.com/2024/03/29/europe/ukraine-faces-retreat-without-us-aid-zelensky-says-intl-hnk/index.html
>“If there is no US support, it means that we have no air defense, no Patriot missiles, no jammers for electronic warfare, no 155-millimeter artillery rounds,” he told The Washington Post during a recent interview published Friday. “It means we will go back, retreat, step by step, in small steps.”
You say this like we're happy about it. The majority of the people and the majority of Congress want to pass the aid, it's like 6 of Trumps dickriding homosexuals who are holding the whole process hostage. I'd love to see their brains splattered in the street for it, but short of that, we're just forced to wait.
>it's like 6 of Trumps dickriding homosexuals who are holding the whole process hostage
If that were the case, they'd just ignore them and vote that as a bi-partisan bill
Sadly, It doesnt matter
They have an infinite amount of slaves. They dont complain. They dont think. They just die
They can grind the frontline until they breach it somwhere and call it an incredible russian victory. Another 2, 4 8 years of war? 1000 soldiers dying for 100m? They dont care. Enough slaves to do it.
The only good think about this is that Russia wont be combat ready for a serious war in at least a generation.
The U.S. and Japan should team up to buy all of Siberia and everything to the East of it. Japan gets back its rightful clay, the rest can be turned into a 50-year protectorate. Let us just say ... such an offer would be a one-time offer where refusal is not an option. We need to cuck the Hell out of China before they take a land grab at the big brass ring there.
Nobody's going to let them at this point. They fricked around far too much and there just isn't time left in this world to give a vatBlack person "just one more chance." They burned them all and it's time to put this abomination down. Permanently.
The actual situation is pretty mixed for both sides. Russians have been adapting.
>1. Ukraine cares about losses, Russia has way more manpower and does not. Advantage Russia. >2. Russian Glide bombs replacing artillery since Ukraine counter-battery destroyed so much artillery. Advantage Russia. >3. New Russian hyper-sonics actually hitting critical infrastructure. Advantage Russia. >4. Russia running low on critical IFV and MBT. More Desert Cross 100s showing up in daily totals is telling. Advantage Ukraine. >5. Ukraine getting new higher quality equipment from the west after a lull in support. Advantage Ukraine. >6. F16's coming maybe around July? You know these will wreck Russian jets. Advantage Ukraine.
So they need to hold on and around July the front will be fully stabalized.
>Russian Glide bombs replacing artillery
Ukraine is also deploying glide bombs in greater numbers. I'd say it's a draw >New Russian hyper-sonics actually hitting critical infrastructure
Any examples beside Kharkiv? Destructions don't seem to be worse than during the winter of 2022 >F16's coming maybe around July? You know these will wreck Russian jets
Maybe. Probably. Not sure it'll make a big difference tbh
>Ukraine is also deploying glide bombs in greater numbers. I'd say it's a draw
You're delusional my friend. AFU got what? Like a hundred or so french glide bombs? Pidors sometime drop that in a single day.
>Any examples beside Kharkiv? Destructions don't seem to be worse than during the winter of 2022
Hitting dams with ballistic/hypersonic? It's bad.
>F16's coming maybe around July? You know these will wreck Russian jets.
F-16s are worse than Russian MiG-31s though:
https://www.eurasiantimes.com/f-16s-sitting-ducks-for-russian-mig-31-fighters/
Read the article. It is factually true that F-16 radars have range up to 150 kilomètres, while MiG-31 and Su-35s have missiles with the range of 400kilomètres.
>SAAAAR WE PAJEETS ARE VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE SAR
lmao
2 months ago
Anonymous
CIT says exactly the same, and they're not Indians, they're as independent observers as one can be.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR YOU MUST LISTEN TO ME
lmao
2 months ago
Anonymous
I'm not Indian, stop clowning. But even if I were, it is factually correct that F-16s radars won't help against MiG-31 and Su-35s missiles P-37M
2 months ago
Anonymous
Nobody is expecting F16s to do some Top Gun dogfighting against Mig 31s.
2 months ago
Anonymous
I mean even if they do some bottim gun dogfighing against the Shit-31 they'll win. Than thing has a piece of shit maneuverability.
The real question is can the light multirole F-16s fight with an interceptor.
My guess would be, with the right jammer and missile, yes. Would it have them ? Probably no.
Most lukely they can make them waste missiles trying to shoot one down tho
2 months ago
Anonymous
>SAR THE NEW PUSSYAN WUNDERWAFFE WILL WIN THEM THE WAR SAR
lmao
2 months ago
Anonymous
>CIT
You mean the ruslan "it was an ukie missile, i promise" leviev? That fricker was wrong dozens of times.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>ruslan "it was an ukie missile, i promise" leviev
Yes, I mean him, but he's not the only person in the CIT, there's a whole team of experts. And Leviev is not a pro-Russian source, if that matters, even if he is Russian. >That fricker was wrong dozens of times.
Sometimes he can be wrong, usually he apologizes.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>And Leviev is not a pro-Russian source, if that matters, even if he is Russian
He has a ton of russian bias, like most people from russia, even technically oppositional/liberal.
Just compare how adamant he was about Ukraine being at fault of some of the missile strikes (where Ukraine wasn't at fault), but when obvious russian shit happened he just swept it under the rug.
F-16s have AN/APG-168 which has a range of 300km, 180~miles. Or AN/APG-183 which has a range of 370km not aware of any Air to air missiles (you are talking about A2A missiles right) with a range of greater than 70km though.
A quick check tells me that the Mig-31 has a radar that can see an F-16 at 282km (Assuming F-16 has a 5m2 radar cross section), Su-35 is going to have similar radar range
2 months ago
Anonymous
>F-16s have AN/APG-168 which has a range of 300km
Not the Block 20 version, the one Ukraine will receive.
2 months ago
Anonymous
They are asking for AN/APG-83 upgrades for them though
2 months ago
Anonymous
>Block 20
With MLU so equivalent to about block 50/52, also there are untouchable AWACS and global hawks flying 24/7 near the border and over the black sea. If those F16s get connected to NATO datalink and ukraine gets some AMRAAMs it should halt any use of air support apart from missiles fired from inside of russia by MiG 31s (which at this point function almost exclusively as kinzhal lobbing platforms) and the only real threat apart from AA would be R37Ms which capabilities seem to be greatly exaggerated by the ruskies. It's a big fat missile that was originally designed to shoot down big and slow aircraft like AWACS, its claimed range is probably the farthest possible distance under ideal conditions without maneuvering + another 100km.
2 months ago
Anonymous
It would be a damn crying shame if someone's AWACS over the Black Sea designated targets for these F-16s wouldn't it? 🙂
2 months ago
Anonymous
>It would be a damn crying shame if someone's AWACS over the Black Sea designated targets for these F-16s wouldn't it? 🙂
same crying shame this wasnt done to Yemen first, how the frick hard could it be to shut them up?
Oh, you mean the one sovjet missle type from the 80s that was developed for use against big and slow AWACS planes? Totally comparable to amraam or maybe even meteor
man you know full well an article is shit when it had a sensational title like "western tanks STAND NO CHANCE against russian superweapon!" and the thumbnail is concept art from star citizen
>7. Ukraine has infinite financial support. Russia is running low on emergency funds.
Huge advantage for Ukraine that no one talks about enough. Russia is running critically low on their emergency funds to keep the state afloat.
>Russian Glide bombs replacing artillery
Ukraine is also deploying glide bombs in greater numbers. I'd say it's a draw >New Russian hyper-sonics actually hitting critical infrastructure
Any examples beside Kharkiv? Destructions don't seem to be worse than during the winter of 2022 >F16's coming maybe around July? You know these will wreck Russian jets
Maybe. Probably. Not sure it'll make a big difference tbh
Russia has their own JDAM upgrade package for glide bombs and they can equip their old dumb-bomb soviet stocks and it's a huge advantage. The only possible help is an army of F-16's to to air to air kills to keep them back. That's why there were so many Patriot shoot-downs recently, as Ukraine got desperate and moved the Patriot batteries to the front to shoot the Russian jets down to stop the glide bombs.
>Russia is running critically low on their emergency funds to keep the state afloat.
Just the other day I heard an expert on the radio saying their funds will probably last for another two years
2 year is "critically low". This is the "break in case of emergency" money, like a zombie plague or a great depression. They have NO PLAN for what happens when they run out of this, and shit could get very unstable within Russia if this happens.
>Ukraine has infinite financial support
A-ha-ha-ha-ha, no. If that was the case, Ukraine wouldn't be taking on loans from IMF.
Ukraine gets grants and loans (which are financial support) from European, American, and International institutions which Russia cannot. This is a huge advantage.
2 years is too long. >they have NO PLAN for what happens when they run out of this
This is unfortunately also probably true and they will probably go for a hail-mary chimpout instead of fixing their shit
>Ukraine gets grants and loans (which are financial support) from European, American, and International institutions which Russia cannot. This is a huge advantage.
Grants are support, loans are just that - loans. And russia has a better alternative to that - actual export revenues from oil and gas. For frick's sake, during 2022 EU paid russia like 200+ billions of EUR. Way more support than to Ukraine. Shit, for the last two years they got 600+ billion on oil and gas, pretty much offsetting the frozen assets.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>Shit, for the last two years they got 600+ billion on oil and gas
what's the portion paid to them in indian rupees (which they can't use) again ?
>Russia is running critically low on their emergency funds to keep the state afloat.
Russia has infinite money as long as they can exploit their own people. They will take the wealth from their own people without end. If they run out of money they print more, taking it effectively away from people. And russian people wont be able to do anything about it. People will get poorer and poorer but russia won't be running out of money anytime soon. They will turn into turkmenistan/north korea tier shithole but they will still have money
>dood, they can just like, create more money! Just print more and devalue the ruble!
Russia gains money from their tiny economy, oil exports, and their cash reserves. The oil is the only thing that's reliable, as their money reserves have like 2 years left, and their normal economy is too tiny to be worth anything. You can't just magic money out of nothing. This is why Russia's economy is on a 48 month timer until it literally starts to collapse.
I think the general consensus since December was that Ukies will have to hold on through 2024 with absolute low being probably in the late spring/early summer and in 2025 situation should get more balanced.
>Russian Glide bombs replacing artillery
Ukraine is also deploying glide bombs in greater numbers. I'd say it's a draw >New Russian hyper-sonics actually hitting critical infrastructure
Any examples beside Kharkiv? Destructions don't seem to be worse than during the winter of 2022 >F16's coming maybe around July? You know these will wreck Russian jets
Maybe. Probably. Not sure it'll make a big difference tbh
Puccians took out five large powerplants last night. Not substations but power plants. Hard to repair maybe not even possible.
not him, idk if it was the kinzhals actually doing it but Russia did hit a bunch of power stations in their last chimpout missile barrage. But a Russian MP put it best when in a rare moment of clarity he said attacks on the Ukrainian power grid are basically worthless because you will never actually knock it out without hitting nuclear power plants.
(i think he was implying they should do that which is insane and stupid given wind patterns in the area would send most of the fallout to Belarus and Russia proper, but at least the core of it was a clearsighted assessment).
not him, idk if it was the kinzhals actually doing it but Russia did hit a bunch of power stations in their last chimpout missile barrage. But a Russian MP put it best when in a rare moment of clarity he said attacks on the Ukrainian power grid are basically worthless because you will never actually knock it out without hitting nuclear power plants.
(i think he was implying they should do that which is insane and stupid given wind patterns in the area would send most of the fallout to Belarus and Russia proper, but at least the core of it was a clearsighted assessment).
The Zircon hypersonic is much harder to intercept, and it hit the Kharkiv power plant and took them out.
>The Zircon hypersonic is much harder to intercept,
Patriot already got one. >it hit the Kharkiv power plant and took them out.
and can russia make enough of them to take out all power plants in Ukraine (like they already said they would with the saheds)?
I said harder, the previous Hypersonics were batting 0% right? This one is hitting 50% it seems. So each time Russia makes 2, one very high priority target will be taken out? They'll make a few each year and that combined with the glide bombs is very bad for Ukraine.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>This one is hitting 50% it seems
A sample of one is not enough to draw broad conclusions. >So each time Russia makes 2, one very high priority target will be taken out?
presuming they can actually hit them. >They'll make a few each year
I'll believe it when I see it.
2 months ago
Anonymous
It has an awful CEP but maybe if that strategic target is very big
>The Zircon hypersonic is much harder to intercept, and it hit the Kharkiv power plant and took them out.
Because Kharkiv isn't protected by Patriot systems, because they are in short supply.
>Because Kharkiv isn't protected by Patriot systems, because they are in short supply.
Fine. Ukraine needs like 10-20x more Patriots, 20 more Slav systems, 10 more Nasams. But they don't have them and that's the problem.
The idea of "Russia" has lost use. What is the purpose of "Russia". Can it be replaced with something better? Probably. That's why countries are invented. They are useful.
Russia has no actual use. It can't maintain its borders, currency, or people.
That's a modern concept of states that's practical. Russia still operates on some quasi-mystical horseshit about Russia being somehow super special. So the downside is that they see it as defacto important even if it can't do anything, because a world Without a Russia is not a world worth saving. They're THAT much up their own asses.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>Ukraine needs like 10-20x more Patriots
Yep, 10x patriots (i.e. about 20 systems in total) would neutralize most of the shit.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Ukraine doesn't have 10 Patriot batteries, it has 3.
yes, you may see it, as soon as the power is back on in kharkiv, and everyone can charge their phones
Russia is probably more combat ready now that at the beginning of the war regardless of the massive material losses.
Now they have hundreds of thousands of veteran soldiers, even if the mortality rate is high, enough survive gaining extremely valuable combat experience to be a very large amount. Now there are about one million Russians in this war.
The military industrial complex is unfricking itself and corruption is getting punished which wasn't the case since the decades.
Tactics are being updated and they are beginning to implement some basic combined arms tactics/dynamic defense.
They had horrible opsec at the beginning of the war but it has been getting substantially less easy to get info on Russian battle plans recently.
Their drones have been getting better and much more numerous, their EW is now much less of the sad joke that it used to be.
While overall the Russian military is still quite the shitshow it is clearly showing improvements.
Ultimately the still notable industrial capacity united with massive amounts of soldiers make the Russian military an hard to handle enemy at least as far as ground war is concerned. The ability to spam large amounts of moderately good air defense systems also make them not a complete pushover in air war, while they have no chance to win an air superiority war against any major NATO adversary they can at least partially level the playing field trough AA spam.
On any maritime engagement they are likely quite hopeless but they retain enough naval assets to still at least be a nuisance to minor NATO powers.
>while they have no chance to win an air superiority war against any major NATO adversary they can at least partially level the playing field trough AA spam.
when does nato get air superiority over Yemen?
>whens the next time my buddy will drop me 4million rounds of ammo, to go with my 4 million rounds?
not sure but who turns down ~~*Free*~~ ammo regardless of how much they have?
I have no clue how anyone but a pole or a euro or someone who has never seen a gun could possibly think *more ammo* is some kind of *own"
>muh "glide-bombs" AKA homosexual slav speech for laser guided bombs >muh hyper-sonics
No. The advantage is that Ukraine is running low on artillery ammo due to European and American political homosexualry. This is why you never give up nuclear weapons.
If they were a decent functioning state, they'd complain and there would be massive ramifications back home. Imagine if France engaged in some Tank and IFV charge in Africa with everyone dead with no gain? There would be hell to pay back home and they would likely withdraw forces.
Because in a normal country you can have a meaningful life instead of expecting to die when your slavedrivers usher you to war or when your liver gives out
Ukraine's situation is just as bad if not worse because they don't have brown muslims propping up birth rates. Ukraine needs to maintain ~4:1 K:D to stay even on that front which I don't think it has ever hit on net, but their losses were a lot heavier proportionally before Russia ran into shell hunger which it still operates under though it's not the worst it has been for them. Now guns are more of an issue than shells as you can tell by them carting out fricking interwar artillery pieces.
Russia can't sustain this offensive pace for that much longer. like the other guy said it's the AFV shortages that are heavily undermining them. They no longer have enough to even take advantage of a breach if one emerged. Even if they still have hulls to reactivate and 'modernize' they aren't keeping up with losses and they keep trickling them in a few vehicles at a time like a slavic DotA teamfight where everyone runs in one at a time screaming DAVAI DAVAI BUY BECK PIDOR BLYATTTT!!!!
You're thinking long term, literal future generations who will have trouble.
But short term, like "fighting war short term" the Russians will always be ahead since they have literal millions of men that they can send to the frontlines as canon fodder before their system actually starts collapsing.
So unless the russian army revolts or the Ukies get world war amounts of weapons and ammo to continuously deliver death non-stop, this war will stay a stale-mate for years on end until Ukraine probably runs out of men to fight...
>their system actually starts collapsing.
given the current state of despair of their civilian infrastructure and housing, one would argue it's already in freefall
>You're thinking long term, literal future generations who will have trouble.
That's literally the issue
Even if Ukraine runs out of men, so will Russia if the war goes on for years. Though I wouldn't be surprised if Russia had no game plan whatsoever for that eventuality
Even long-term russians don't have issues. Check their population in 1991 vs 2022, then check of other post-soviet countries. Why do you think russian population didn't decrease in the same was as ukrainian, latvian and so on? Because they were and still are importing migrants by the butt load. Jokes about calling moscow "moskvabad" (like "islamabad", "jalalabad" and so on) got started within russia in early 2000s. They're literally importing up to a million migrants per year.
The idea of "Russia" has lost use. What is the purpose of "Russia". Can it be replaced with something better? Probably. That's why countries are invented. They are useful.
Russia has no actual use. It can't maintain its borders, currency, or people.
Nah, canada is importing less than 0.5 million per year. Even that is a lot, yes, hence Canada's population is booming, while russia uses 1+ million imports per year just to offset people dying off.
Russia is bringing in tens of thousands of browns to fight this war.
Ukraine is doing about 5 kills for every loss but Ukraine might just be able to field about 1 million soldiers in total through this war. All Russia has to do is grab 5 million villagers in corrupt shitholes that don't care about their own population to win.
If the US wasn’t run by a geriatric moron the CIA and VOA news would have already engaged in a heavy handed information warfare campaign to make these recruiting countries hate Russia for killing their citizens. >INB4 CNN is CIA info-op
It’s not popular with Turd worlders, just liberal Americans. The US is asleep at the wheel with it’s immense soft-power network, and should be turning this into a massive scandal, while in reality Jake Sullivan and Biden are stupid fricking idiots.
>The US is asleep at the wheel with it’s immense soft-power network, and should be turning this into a massive scandal
the totality of western media is fervently pro-ukraine, and has been since word-one on feb 22, how could you possibly believe this?
you can't read, can you poltard
I can read, but you operate from the position that anything you saw Prigozhin do was >*a real coup a civil war even!* and he *marched on Moscow, Putler ran!*
which i utterly and completely reject as homosexual Russian theatre designed to scramble baltic brains, the only audience dumb enough to believe something so absolutely goofy
>the totality of western media is fervently pro-ukraine, and has been since word-one on feb 22, how could you possibly believe this?
Not English speaking news you goof, but foreign sources. Spark outrage that Russia is scamming these poor people into dying in their stupid war. USA has a lot of soft power, but they aren't as good using it anymore.
Info-ops: you can run VOA radio, as well as social media campaigns, in India, Central/East Asia, Africa, and South America to showcase their citizens being lied to and dying for a war they have no stake in. This is only highlighted in Western news, which isn’t watched by turdworlders.
It’s a massive opportunity to destabilize their working relationships with international partners and the US hasn’t jumped on it. The CIA used to be the best at this kind of stuff
2 months ago
Anonymous
>that only works when that side is *losing* and to date, Russia has amassed some 300k voluntary recruits since feb22 alone, mostly by massively upping salaries
YOU GOOF LEARN TO READ
Russia is scamming foreigners from places like Nepal and India into fighting their stupid war and dying. The governments are not okay with this. Cuba threw a shit storm and shut down a Russian recruitment scheme last year over just this issue. The families aren't on board either. It's a perfect storm to get people pissed off and to help close these recruitment scams.
>morons make voluntary mistakes, news @11pm
how is any of what you describe different than the highschool cafeteria recruiting station?
lmfao verbatim, everyone of your (insert thirdie nations) could just have "jefferson higschool cafeteria" slotted in, and it would be the same argument
https://i.imgur.com/ickFUCB.jpg
I like how every fricking time this moronic shill pops up in a /k/ thread, he starts with this moronic concern trolling about about "us" not being able to win because ziggies are this manifestation of tyranids. But the homosexual just can't help himself and always ends up reciting his moronic zigger agitka at anons.
I wonder when are they going to start utilizing the "Ukraine isn't a democracy because they, unlike based Russia, chose not to organize elections in the middle of a war" cope. Perhaps, it's too fricking moronic for anyone outside of russian internet.
>hes 'concerned', demoralized even, by the words he reads on PrepHole'
ngmi
2 months ago
Anonymous
>hes 'concerned', demoralized even, by the words he reads on PrepHole'
Do you even know what "concern trolling" is, you curry Black person?
2 months ago
Anonymous
You clearly don’t understand how 3rd worlders react to things.
In Cuba they shut down a Russian recruitment network after loved ones lost people.
In India, there is increasing anger about people who went to Russia for work and ended up getting recruited and died in Ukraine.
This is a powder keg that the US could inflame with the right tactics.
2 months ago
Anonymous
[...] >morons make voluntary mistakes, news @11pm
how is any of what you describe different than the highschool cafeteria recruiting station?
lmfao verbatim, everyone of your (insert thirdie nations) could just have "jefferson higschool cafeteria" slotted in, and it would be the same argument
[...] >hes 'concerned', demoralized even, by the words he reads on PrepHole'
ngmi
Both the governments the the people hate this shit. The governments do NOT want people working as foreign mercenaries, adopting who knows what ideologies and gaining military training, and then coming back. Governments don't like a bunch of trained military men not under their own control. The people back home hate having loved ones go missing after they get scammed into fighting and dying for Russia.
These are supposedly "friendly" nations to Russia, so this is prime to drive a wedge between them.
2 months ago
Anonymous
As a Latin American I can tell you, at least on the Cuban side of things, they don't give a shit. The people don't like it so when they complain enough they may shut down some places, tell the Russians to send the people responsible back to the RU embassy but otherwise they don't give a shit and may very likely be gaining something from it. This isn't the first time this goes down in Cuba either, similar things happened in the Cold War.
And no, the CIA was never good at anything close to this. The CIA was always the shortbus of major intelligence agencies.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>And no, the CIA was never good at anything close to this. The CIA was always the shortbus of major intelligence agencies.
Real talk: yeah. America has soft power and hard power, so why bother with this kind of bullshit? Russians were lacking in a lot, and already trained themselves in exploiting their own ethnics, so they became masters at this kind of subversive bullshit.
hahahaha actually having a fricking almost coup attempt is a masteful 5d chess psy op by the gallant intelligent Russians!! Only such stupid ignorant fascists like the baltics could fall for it!!! *~~)
I hate this absolutely moronic line of thinking. A willingness to throw men and material into a wood chipper for little to no gain does not mean you will win. I can't imagine the vodka-soaked thought process needed to believe in the Pyrrhic defeat (a few more disasters like this and we'll win!).
No they won't. Every Ukrainian would have to be dead. This is a religious,cultural, money, family,blood feud.
Are the Russians willing to lose 60 million people.
Until the Putin is alive, it doesn't matter if they're willing or not.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Then they might win. This holy war for Ukrainians. Either their family was killed,their churches were bombed or their lives were destroyed
It's a jihad for better terms. You don't blow up 500 churches, dozens of maternity wards and schools rape tens of thousands
Then expect your enemy be like "okay peace now"
It's Jihad. Blood feud. Post war it will still be there
2 months ago
Anonymous
>Then they might win. This holy war for Ukrainians. Either their family was killed,their churches were bombed or their lives were destroyed
I wish, they're honestly pretty normal risk versus reward type people and a bit self-serving. Ukraine missed out not recruiting more volunteers during the initial frenzy when the Ukraine capital might fall. Now that it's calmed down many of the 20-30's who are the bread and butter of armies will do antyhing but sign up to fight to help Ukraine. They'll donate, volunteer, work in jobs, but actually fight? Ehhh.... can't someone else do it?
And Ukraine is a democracy so they have to deal with such pressures, while the Russian dictatorship can just send more men to die and cover it up so there's no backlash.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Esl?
2 months ago
Anonymous
>This holy war for Ukrainians
Again. You're saying this from a perspective of /k/ poster.
Not that long ago there was some ukrgay who made a thread while sitting in the barracks on the frontlines, and he said they struggle to motivate people to go on perimeter patrols.
Most people don't want to die, no matter the nation they're from.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Anon I just pointed out it's a holy war with the facts and you are giving me some indian larping story.
2 months ago
Anonymous
muh holy war
how the frick did the crusades end up?
2 months ago
Anonymous
Pretty well for the defending side.
What are you even trying to say.
2 months ago
Anonymous
What I'm saying is that you're overestimating Ukraine capabilities of achieving TZD. And it's the only way they can win. Putin is just fine turning it into a forever war. He just fricking called 150k more mobiks.
2 months ago
Anonymous
I think they'll just keep cutting away at refining of oil and ng/pet production and gradually they'll just go broke then it will turn into Venezuela where everyone kind of does whatever
2 months ago
Anonymous
And when gas prices will go up, the support for Ukrainian effort among western average Joe will start to dry up.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Russia stopped exporting gas a month ago. The world moved on, besides China and India.
Russia will just go broke then collapse.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Fuel. Oil. Crude.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Anon... This is bait right
2 months ago
Anonymous
Why do you think so? Who is the Plus in the OPEC+?
2 months ago
Anonymous
Motherfricker learn the difference between crude oil and gasoline. This has to be bait
2 months ago
Anonymous
I'm sorry, are you saying there's no relation? Where do you think gasoline comes from? What do refineries do Billy?
2 months ago
Anonymous
>Russia banned export of refined oil >no increase in oil prices
>14% of Russian refining gets disabled >Russia increases export of crude oil >increase in oil prices
Hmmm...I'm not expert in economics but I think hitting Russian oil refineries shouldn't have effect on oil prices
2 months ago
Anonymous
A couple weeks ago Ukrainians blew up a refinery. Russians announced they were increasing crude exports
Do you understand why
2 months ago
Anonymous
2 months ago
Anonymous
>Russia banned export of refined oil >no increase in oil prices
>14% of Russian refining gets disabled >Russia increases export of crude oil >increase in oil prices
Hmmm...I'm not expert in economics but I think hitting Russian oil refineries shouldn't have effect on oil prices
2 months ago
Anonymous
>This holy war for Ukrainians
Again. You're saying this from a perspective of /k/ poster.
Not that long ago there was some ukrgay who made a thread while sitting in the barracks on the frontlines, and he said they struggle to motivate people to go on perimeter patrols.
Most people don't want to die, no matter the nation they're from.
The normal every day Ukrainians aren't mindless drones, they're normal educated Europeans. they rose up because they could see through Russian bullshit and saw that they were getting a raw deal. The flip side is that you can't get them to form suicide squads like you could Arabs or other goofballs with 85 IQs. You may notice a lot of teen and 20 something Ukrainians playing online video games instead of fighting, because yeah, wouldn't you?
Russia is bringing in tens of thousands of browns to fight this war.
Ukraine is doing about 5 kills for every loss but Ukraine might just be able to field about 1 million soldiers in total through this war. All Russia has to do is grab 5 million villagers in corrupt shitholes that don't care about their own population to win.
Russians aren't even fighting the war anymore. Ukraine is just killing random mongols.
>They dont care
There's been plenty of protests and plent of people getting locked up because they do complain.
Putin is a dictator but nobody can keep a war running forever
Russia is probably more combat ready now that at the beginning of the war regardless of the massive material losses.
Now they have hundreds of thousands of veteran soldiers, even if the mortality rate is high, enough survive gaining extremely valuable combat experience to be a very large amount. Now there are about one million Russians in this war.
The military industrial complex is unfricking itself and corruption is getting punished which wasn't the case since the decades.
Tactics are being updated and they are beginning to implement some basic combined arms tactics/dynamic defense.
They had horrible opsec at the beginning of the war but it has been getting substantially less easy to get info on Russian battle plans recently.
Their drones have been getting better and much more numerous, their EW is now much less of the sad joke that it used to be.
While overall the Russian military is still quite the shitshow it is clearly showing improvements.
Ultimately the still notable industrial capacity united with massive amounts of soldiers make the Russian military an hard to handle enemy at least as far as ground war is concerned. The ability to spam large amounts of moderately good air defense systems also make them not a complete pushover in air war, while they have no chance to win an air superiority war against any major NATO adversary they can at least partially level the playing field trough AA spam.
On any maritime engagement they are likely quite hopeless but they retain enough naval assets to still at least be a nuisance to minor NATO powers.
yeah but this doesn't mean shit (even if it's true) because they've burned through their material at a limited rate. Doesn't matter how many veteran soldiers you have when you can only send them to the frontline in a 10 thousand dollar golf cart.
>Now they have hundreds of thousands of veteran soldiers, even if the mortality rate is high, enough survive gaining extremely valuable combat experience to be a very large amount.
veterancy is not some bing bing wahoo exp thing, get this moronic video game logic out of your system
I liked it better when zigger bullshit on here wasn't this full of self-pity and delusional fantasies of big poweful but stern Russia that grits its teeth and suffers like the wondeful Samurai they think they are.
>Now they have hundreds of thousands of veteran soldiers
Raheen, my friend. It doesn't work this way. Keeping a mobik or a low level contractor in trenches for months on end as they see more than half of their squad wiped out doesn't turn then into better soldiers. It literally cripples them for life both physically and mentally (millions of those is something Russia will have to deal with for the next 20-30 years now).
Officers are the ones who get better with experience and guess what? These experienced officers can't even advance their fricking careers because Russia's entire political system is built on nepotism and Putin being scared shitless of replacing (moreso actually punishing) any high-ranking officials, no matter how incompetent they get. So they're in this moronic perpetual trap of having a whole bunch of good officers who are wasted by being forced to execute moronic meat wave orders.
>Keeping a mobik or a low level contractor in trenches for months on end as they see more than half of their squad wiped out doesn't turn then into better soldiers. It literally cripples them for life both physically and mentally
we know, western media is constantly reporting on ukrainian man-power shortages, yet they press on. are you some kind of vatnik trying to demoralize us?
>The ability to spam large amounts of moderately good air defense systems also make them not a complete pushover in air war, while they have no chance to win an air superiority war against any major NATO adversary they can at least partially level the playing field trough AA spam
Stealth bombers are a hard counter to ground based SAM, this is not speculation, it's mathematically impossible for ground based SAM to meaningfully contest airspace against modern stealth bombers.
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>Stealth bombers are a hard counter to ground based SAM, this is not speculation, it's mathematically impossible for ground based SAM to meaningfully contest airspace against modern stealth bombers.
so the US, who has hundreds of these, couldnt even spare one or two, to open up a window into Moscow? why? why werent 1 or even 2 B2's sent to SEAD Moscow into dust, so ukraine could thunder-run into the gap, like day one of desert storm? why send hundreds of thousands of lives, and $hundreds of Billions of dollars into the trash, when just 1 or 2 B2's could have put the vatnik baby to bed 2 years ago?
>so the US, who has hundreds of these, couldnt even spare one or two, to open up a window into Moscow? why? why werent 1 or even 2 B2's sent to SEAD Moscow into dust, so ukraine could thunder-run into the gap, like day one of desert storm? why send hundreds of thousands of lives, and $hundreds of Billions of dollars into the trash, when just 1 or 2 B2's could have put the vatnik baby to bed 2 years ago?
Because they wouldn't want to give one their most advanced weapon to a third party like that, they are not even in NATO, also it's unlikely they would be able to operate them, this is isn't a truck with a few missiles on it.
>Because they wouldn't want to give one their most advanced weapon to a third party like that,
who said anything about *giving* it to anyone, i said >why didnt the US just shit wreck Russia from Rostov to Moscow, with a paltry, meaningless 2 B2's, sparing hundreds of thousands of allied lives?
>the totality of western media is fervently pro-ukraine, and has been since word-one on feb 22, how could you possibly believe this?
Not English speaking news you goof, but foreign sources. Spark outrage that Russia is scamming these poor people into dying in their stupid war. USA has a lot of soft power, but they aren't as good using it anymore.
>Spark outrage that Russia is scamming these poor people into dying in their stupid war.
that only works when that side is *losing* and to date, Russia has amassed some 300k voluntary recruits since feb22 alone, mostly by massively upping salaries
no one feels "scammed" in this scenario,
there is no animosity
there is no loss of public consent, in fact 80%+ are "for it"
and no amount of western liberal talking points are going to break that messaging
2 months ago
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>that only works when that side is *losing* and to date, Russia has amassed some 300k voluntary recruits since feb22 alone, mostly by massively upping salaries
YOU GOOF LEARN TO READ
Russia is scamming foreigners from places like Nepal and India into fighting their stupid war and dying. The governments are not okay with this. Cuba threw a shit storm and shut down a Russian recruitment scheme last year over just this issue. The families aren't on board either. It's a perfect storm to get people pissed off and to help close these recruitment scams.
2 months ago
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Because US politicians clearly don't want to dissolve the Russian Federation, they have pretty much stated this, even preventing Ukraine from striking inside the country, they don't want to deal with the fallout like in the 90's where the West had to feed russians so they didn't all starve, they still believe Russia will come to its senses at some point.
Ukraine isn't in NATO so there isn't the obligation to enter a war for them in such a direct way and the West is generally wary of military conflicts since it places maintaining living conditions for its people above bravado.
2 months ago
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>Ukraine isn't in NATO so there isn't the obligation to enter a war
And if west doesnt want to help Ukraine might actually consider developing and deploying bilogical and chemical weapons as final frick you and west will have to live with the consequences. If they arent willing to help, all geneva conventions disappear as a defender against overwhelming power there is no other way around other than committing war crimes.
Same thing any other country will do after being betrayed by the west. Cant get nukes? The only way to ensure you will exist is to develop biological and toxic weapons. Dropping some Botulinum bomb over city will cause more casualities than a nuke.
2 months ago
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>they don't want to deal with the fallout like in the 90's where the West had to feed russians so they didn't all starve
The money western companies can maki in a non-moronic Russia would cover that help tenfold. Balkanisation of a country loaded with nukes was and still is the primary concern.
2 months ago
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What US politicians want is irrelevant, Europeans and Ukies don't care and the countries that matters are fine with zigger genocide.
>The ability to spam large amounts of moderately good air defense systems also make them not a complete pushover in air war, while they have no chance to win an air superiority war against any major NATO adversary they can at least partially level the playing field trough AA spam
Stealth bombers are a hard counter to ground based SAM, this is not speculation, it's mathematically impossible for ground based SAM to meaningfully contest airspace against modern stealth bombers.
>They have an infinite amount of slaves. They dont complain. They dont think. They just die
FRL and SB are both gaining members because guys from the front are over it. Send more guys to the front without rotation, supplies and support and they'll grow faster.
The only reason Russia's population has flat lined the last decade is that they've added the 2.5mil from Crimea and 4mil~ from Donetsk and Luhansk and then since the war started another few million from the other areas so far as i'm aware. If Russia does end up getting pushed back to pre-war borders their population will drop a lot
Looking at it
Donetsk: 4.1mil
Luhansk: 2.1mil
Crimea: 1.9mil
Kherson: 1mil
Zaporhizia: 1.7mil
Sevastopol: 550k
So assuming Russia loses all of them they'll lose about 11mil population, not counting any further military deaths.
This does seem to be one of the bigger armour pushes that's happened for a while, they lost so much shit in Avdiivka that there just seemed to be barely anything in the way of frontline units available since. It'll be interesting to see if this is sustained or they go for the Mario Kart achievement award again
fricking imagine being buried in a road median, this is all these disposable slaves amount to in the end
there is a fifth slide in which he looks visibly ran over with impressions of a large tread probably from several wheeled personell carriers, merging with the dry dirt road next to him, becoming a part of the road. Not even kidding, but I can't seem to find it right now.
Doubt he was recovered, probably buried half a foot under ground now
watching a r*ssian take his life while enjoying a nice meal after an intense leg workout. life is good. cherish these moments because one day we'll stop getting videos of r*ssians doing good
BMP's likely had all the ablative armor with the tanks being there to help them push through so i doubt they were able to take what they wanted. Not impossible since no one is saying the attack failed just that they lost a frick ton of armor but i wouldn't expect it.
>See literally everyone 500m in front of you explode >Lads lets not go that way I think?
They're either learning or they're losing the will to attack.
>F16's coming maybe around July? You know these will wreck Russian jets.
F-16s are worse than Russian MiG-31s though:
https://www.eurasiantimes.com/f-16s-sitting-ducks-for-russian-mig-31-fighters/
What happened to the other 24 tanks and 4 BMPs? Did they manage to actually establish any positions or was this a total rout?
This is a demonstration of what happens when you betray an ally and starve them of equipment, funds, and ammo just when they're engaged in hard core fighting. I'll bet the orange heinous and his diseased pack of zombie MAGAts are sucking each other off in ecstasy over how they pwnd Zoglensky.
Not enough. You homosexuals could've sent weapons which would 10x the numbers of dead pidors, but you're weak, you're afraid of your own strength, you're afraid of what might happen if russia losses so hard that people inside might start asking unpleasant questions.
>you're afraid of what might happen if russia losses so hard that people inside might start asking unpleasant questions.
Our politicians are gay, news at 11
You can't extract votes from fatties by promising war and hardship even if it's the right choice
If russia doesn't lose hard, you're get more war, simple as. They need to get kicked back to pre-2014 borders, otherwise they'll ape out more. Even a meter of land will be considered a win and bolster this behavior.
I understand that, do the politicians in charge? No.
>promising war and hardship
the conflict is half the world away, no US citizen will get harmed. this is the perfect chance to neuter Russia. you literally only need to send weapons
The voter will cry blood over having to pay 0.0001% more taxes and vote to pull support, not much you can do
>promising war and hardship
the conflict is half the world away, no US citizen will get harmed. this is the perfect chance to neuter Russia. you literally only need to send weapons
>the conflict is half the world away, no US citizen will get harmed. this is the perfect chance to neuter Russia
And by proxy also neuter chinks. A big russian loss with cool down the slant eyed fricks at least for a generation.
>you're afraid of what might happen if russia losses so hard that people inside might start asking unpleasant questions.
Our politicians are gay, news at 11
You can't extract votes from fatties by promising war and hardship even if it's the right choice
The worst thing of all is this shit will continue to happen, and shills will become more comprehensive investments by countries that couldn't hope in hell to win their revanchist wars against the west without trying to convince western populations to not commit to the defense of allies. >your favorite shitposting sites will forever be flooded by pajeets/chinks/ziggers begging you to let them win and insistently posting agitprop about trannies
>>your favorite shitposting sites will forever be flooded by pajeets/chinks/ziggers begging you to let them win and insistently posting agitprop about trannies
As opposed to right now where my favorite shitposting sites are forever flooded by hohols/troons/pajeets/commies begging me to let them win and infinitely posting agitprop about white supremacists?
yes western world should be shutting of the lights and giving up control to BRICS
2 months ago
Anonymous
2 months ago
Anonymous
The new members: >oil >economic disaster >economic disaster >economic disaster >economic disaster >oil
slava Z
2 months ago
Anonymous
Argentina and Saudi Arabia didn't join anyway
2 months ago
Anonymous
>Brazil
Best buddies with France and the EU. Want nothing to do with other turdworlders. Lula is a tankie but knows that Putin was behind Bolsonaro. >Russia
lol >India
Would rape their mother and sell her on the street for a few rupees >China
His investments in South america and Africa have angered the locals and they've proven to be cowards in the field. They're just looking from a distance trying to bet on the winner. >South Africa
lol >new members
my sides >Argentina
hahahaha, holy shit it would be so funny
2 months ago
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>Lula is a tankie but knows that Putin was behind Bolsonaro.
/k/ tá tão na merda esse final de semana que eu ainda tenho que ler essa merda. Puta que pariu, realmente alguma coisa deu muita merda pros Russos.
2 months ago
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>Argentina
Oh please please let them try to invade the Falklands again
2 months ago
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>egypt's income from suez canal tolls plummeted thanks to iran
lmao even
2 months ago
Anonymous
Don't forget that Egypt keeps threatening to go to war with Ethiopia
2 months ago
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Ethiopia deserve it
2 months ago
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>Ethiopia deserve it
Why? It is an honorary Aryan country.
>Economists: Wow BRICS has huge potential. All they have to do is play ball and not do something catastrophic politically and economically.
2 months ago
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>Thirdies not being moronic for 2 years challenge (impossible)
2 months ago
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>Saudi Arabia >UAE >Iran
surely this would be a fruitful and trusting alliance in the long term
2 months ago
Anonymous
Outside of US/NATO allied nations there are almost no real 'fruitful and trusting alliances' of significance, the only ones i can think of involve the DPRK having pretty solid long term friendships with Iran and Ethiopia.
2 months ago
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>ethiopia
You mean Eritrea?
2 months ago
Anonymous
Ethiopia, they are long time allies. Their AKs and small arms are made in factories provided by the DPRK. The US even turns a blind eye to our military aid money going to the DPRK via them.
2 months ago
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>The US even turns a blind eye to our military aid money going to the DPRK via them.
Why not just sell them cheap 556's instead? Cut NK out entirely and transition them to NATO standards?
2 months ago
Anonymous
We can't, we maintain a very strict arms embargo in the Horn of Africa and Ethiopia has a horrid human rights record. They want defense independence not a bunch of second hand ARs.
Them and the DPRK are legitimate friends, close enough that the friendship survived the Derg losing power. Ethiopia wants weapons, not people whining about human rights.
2 months ago
Anonymous
The American alliance format screws with thirdies
"Don't shoot us, we won't shoot at you. Let's shoot at people who shoot at us. Otherwise I don't fricking care"
There's no master slave definition
2 months ago
Anonymous
If there's one thing the Ukrainian War has taught me, it's that for most of the world "alliance" and "friendship" means a willingness to vote abstain in the UN and sell weapons for hard currency at exorbitant rates.
2 months ago
Anonymous
I was thinking how it has proven that the idea that western economic values promote liberal democracy is utter bullshit. Iran and the DPRK sure as hell aren't liberal democracies however if you doubt their commitment to capitalism go talk to the guy in charge of Russia's foreign currency and gold reserves.
2 months ago
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It already has both China and India.
2 months ago
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BRICS is so funny, it looks like a completely random collection of countries but honestly seems like it's a terrible alliance >India and China have border skirmishes every now and then >Iran is currently crippling one of Egypt's main sources of revenue >Egypt may go to war against Ethiopia in the near future >Brazil, SA and UAE are friends with the West >SA is currently waging war against an Iranian proxy
2 months ago
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>quads of truth
BRICS isn't much of a formal alliance, but a grouping economists made up for economic up and comers. But they're filled with such diots they're shooting themselves in the foot.
2 months ago
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It was actually made up by someone from Goldman-Sachs as a marketing term.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>quads of truth
BRICS isn't much of a formal alliance, but a grouping economists made up for economic up and comers. But they're filled with such diots they're shooting themselves in the foot.
Broke morons In (need of) Chinese Support - The Alliance
2 months ago
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>BRICSAAEEIU
Rolls right off the tongue
2 months ago
Anonymous
ICERUBIES
Saudis and Argies left
2 months ago
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I.E. ICE ASS RUB
2 months ago
Anonymous
Shouldn't you be in church with your parents right now? How's your homework packet for Easter break coming?
It’s too bad Western, Liberal Democracies can’t be bothered to persuade their own citizens to support their Bushite-retread horseshit. >nuh-uh American foreign policy has totally changed since 1992
Yeah, Joe Biden says MAGA-hatted, bigots hate our Freedoms, not fureenur Muslims. Completely different. As the oil money comes from places not named Texas, so it’s twice as not the same.
>According to Ukrainian pilots, the R-37M isn't achieving a lot of "hard kills", the destruction of actual Ukrainian aircraft. However, their launch forces pilots to abandon their current missiles and take evasive action. >Russian wunderwaffe is actually only good for suppressing MiG-29 and Su-27
>Noooo you can't fight le heckin' wholesome russirinos! You have to shoot at each other! >No, Russia funding radical political groups in your country doesn't justify your opposition to it because... uh... because you lynch Black folks!
also, reminder that the entirety of Russia is populated by gays, has been for centuries, and everything bad that has ever happened to that country is God punishing them for being such massive homos.
https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/61249351/#61249351
For you indians, Paki and Chinese.
Last time this happened was 1775. It partially led to the American revolution
It's that year again. With the war in Ukraine, this cycle. You all gonna fricking be hungry.
I don't think people appreciate how much effort the First World spends trying to keep the Third World from starving to death all while the Third World tries to stop them.
they may start swallowing chink wiener for shipments of chinese IFV's idk
Nope. China avoids sending "military aid" to both Russia and Ukraine to avoid sanctions. Everyone knows that the thousands of UAVs they send to both Ukraine and Russia are turned into weapons, but everyone turns a blind eye to that since it helps Ukraine so much. That is why they have sold them only Desert Cross 1000's. Rinky dink 85HP ATVs.
Damn, why anons here underestimate Russians so much? You know this is one of the biggest mistakes in warfare? To underestimate your enemy? Russians did exactly that with Ukrainians at the beginning. I have even seen comments about Baltics being able to destroy Russian army with ease as they are in NATO and have Western doctrine. I don't know what you guys are sniffing, but you have to stop. Russia is a serious threat and should be taken seriously.
The big difference is that Baltics would have immediate NATO backing, with troops and forces from Finland and Poland helping out almost immediately plus naval backing from Sweden. With Ukraine, they're alone and they have to negotiate each adn every thing they want from donor countries, but in NATO it's already pre-arranged what to do in the event of an attack. NATO makes all the planning and cuts through the red tape.
Baltics + Finland + Sweden + Poland = Russian advance ground to a halt.
Germany + France = rest of Russians pushed back
>Russia is incompetent because they barely managed to capture anything in two years and lost ten of thousands of soldiers,thousands of vehicles&tanks and burned thourgh six decades of soviet stockpiles >nO yOu CaN't say ThAT YOU'RE uNdEReSTImATinG rUSSIa
How is anyone underestimating them?
You forgot 90% of current russian army is currently engaged in Ukraine, so Prigozhin column could move hundreds of kilometers per day inside of the country without resistance. Also take a look at these numbers: >486 HIMARS >32 F-35 >48 F-16
Poland alone could steamroll the current Russia up to the Ural.
>Poland alone could steamroll the current Russia up to the Ural.
why havent they?
or was it some kind of gameshow watching hundreds of thousands of ukrainians lose their lives, while their literal next-door neighbor had 3x maybe 4x the capability to walk over Moscow, just sitting in fricking warehouses
what you describe is honestly sick
its repulsive
if Poland alone could have prevented this tragedy, why didnt it?
32 f35s and 48 f16s should have been OVER MATCH to establish a no-fly zone, which alone could have saved hundreds of thousands
so why didnt poland do even a token strike or two to soften up the Kremlin?
Disregarding every other argument, who could they have nuked regarding Priggie's coup?
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>Priggie's coup?
lmfao, I dont believe or fall for Russian theatre,
that was for the captive balt-audience
anyway, why hasnt poland, with its fricking 486himars+ammo, and near 90 nato fighter jets, not blasted a path 100 miles wide from Rostov to Moscow?
SURELY, such an act would have saved countless hundreds of thousands of lives in ukraine, wouldnt it have?
>why havent they?
Nukes, moron. That's the only reason the Moscow regime hasn't been wiped out they deserve.
Which is also the reason why muh NATO encirclement was bullshit as a reason to invade Ukraine, mind you
>why havent they?
I recently talked to a tough MMA fighter Polish guy from my team and he is fricking scared of Poland joining the war.
So on the population side, I think its an irrational propaganda-infused cowardice. And on the government side, they may need an approval from US/Space X to use Starlink swarm for countering nukes in case Monkey won't die with dignity.
>Russians will be out of IFV stocks soon
A meme 2 years ago, but not in 2024
What am I not understanding? Why are the Russians depleting their army like this?
>What part of the plan involved using chinese golf carts?
the semi-dismounted minefield crossing part^
I was thinking how it has proven that the idea that western economic values promote liberal democracy is utter bullshit. Iran and the DPRK sure as hell aren't liberal democracies however if you doubt their commitment to capitalism go talk to the guy in charge of Russia's foreign currency and gold reserves.
>liberal democracy is utter bullshit.
you got that part right^
They've been running out since the start of the war (more destroyed or captured than they create). It's just catching up to them. Russian doctrine favors offense, and they perpetually think Ukraine is on the verge of defeat and will cry out for at least a cease fire any day now.
I don't think people appreciate how much effort the First World spends trying to keep the Third World from starving to death all while the Third World tries to stop them.
I mean duh? Russia was literally using the black sea fleet to try to starve half of the developing world for seemingly no reason. And that world was gonna support Russia to help end the Ukraine war in their favor! God what idiots!
The recent failed attacks in the last 3 to 4 days explains all the ESL trolls and concern posting about the masculine and unbeatable Russian human wave attacks.
So the new zigger propaganda line for the internet can be summarized as glorifying "glide-bombs" and "hypersonic missiles" and getting all full of self-pity about the wonderful horrors of human wave attacks, how they are bad but they will win the war.
I liked it better when last year around the time Bakhmut was being attacked zigger psyops were just "no u" troll posts where you reversed the shitposts about Russia to be about Ukraine and the US instead.
I like how every fricking time this moronic shill pops up in a /k/ thread, he starts with this moronic concern trolling about about "us" not being able to win because ziggies are this manifestation of tyranids. But the homosexual just can't help himself and always ends up reciting his moronic zigger agitka at anons.
I wonder when are they going to start utilizing the "Ukraine isn't a democracy because they, unlike based Russia, chose not to organize elections in the middle of a war" cope. Perhaps, it's too fricking moronic for anyone outside of russian internet.
>I wonder when are they going to start utilizing the "Ukraine isn't a democracy because they, unlike based Russia, chose not to organize elections in the middle of a war" cope.
They have been since last year
why didnt they have elections though?
surely the population would have rallied around that cause, right? I mean how could there be any broken consensus on that one?
>hes 'concerned', demoralized even, by the words he reads on PrepHole'
Do you even know what "concern trolling" is, you curry Black person?
>Do you even know what "concern trolling" is
no could you tell me? and speak slow so my brown brain can process it
You clearly don’t understand how 3rd worlders react to things.
In Cuba they shut down a Russian recruitment network after loved ones lost people.
In India, there is increasing anger about people who went to Russia for work and ended up getting recruited and died in Ukraine.
This is a powder keg that the US could inflame with the right tactics.
how do you "accidentally-on-purpose" join a military? I want to make sure I dont make the same mistake !
Because US politicians clearly don't want to dissolve the Russian Federation, they have pretty much stated this, even preventing Ukraine from striking inside the country, they don't want to deal with the fallout like in the 90's where the West had to feed russians so they didn't all starve, they still believe Russia will come to its senses at some point.
Ukraine isn't in NATO so there isn't the obligation to enter a war for them in such a direct way and the West is generally wary of military conflicts since it places maintaining living conditions for its people above bravado.
>don't want to dissolve the Russian Federation, they have pretty much stated this,
they have stated precisely, exactly the opposite time and time again, in fact, nato pays a $6-figure+ position to sit in DC/NYC and plan exactly this
>they don't want to deal with the fallout like in the 90's where the West had to feed russians so they didn't all starve
The money western companies can maki in a non-moronic Russia would cover that help tenfold. Balkanisation of a country loaded with nukes was and still is the primary concern.
>Balkanisation of a country loaded with nukes was and still is the primary concern.
THIS^
this is nato's primary objective and the DNA of the entire campaign beginning with ~~*football hooligans*~~ in maidan, to day 769 of Putins 48hr brunch in keev >pic related
Have you been living under a rock or something? Many are given work visas but are just somehow ending up in a war zone? Stop being a moron.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64582985
>how do you "accidentally-on-purpose" join a military?
You get to russia under the guise of working in construction or other such stuff, while inside russia it just so happens that the contract that you've signing without knowing the language was actually a military one.
>why didnt they have elections though? >surely the population would have rallied around that cause, right?
It went like this >zigger agents start poisoning the well saying Zelensky is a dictator and should hold elections >some of our westacucks take the bait and start saying the same >Zelensky damage controls to get his aid deliveries and says he will hold elections soon >the courts and population say it's unconstitutional to hold elections in wartime and the president should shut up >Zelensky says uhh ok my mistake and shuts up
It was funny but democracy and laws were respected so ziggoids can shut up
I thought the armed guards going into polling booths and the only real opposition candidate being denied candidacy was a bit sus
2 months ago
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>I thought the armed guards going into polling booths and the only real opposition candidate being denied candidacy was a bit sus
HAHAHAHAAHAHA
HAHAHAHA >nalvany >2%, maybe
lmfao, oh and 30 indipendent nations were positioned according to international law to watch over Russian elections
hahahaha actually having a fricking almost coup attempt is a masteful 5d chess psy op by the gallant intelligent Russians!! Only such stupid ignorant fascists like the baltics could fall for it!!! *~~)
>"it was real in my mind!"
Russian civil war!
belgorod!!
"Putin looks weak!" even!
>why havent they?
I recently talked to a tough MMA fighter Polish guy from my team and he is fricking scared of Poland joining the war.
So on the population side, I think its an irrational propaganda-infused cowardice. And on the government side, they may need an approval from US/Space X to use Starlink swarm for countering nukes in case Monkey won't die with dignity.
i hope he gets drafted! he needs to step-up and defend democracy. I hope he knows freedom is NOT free, someone has to pay for it (not me though, too important, American you see)
2 months ago
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You seem upset
2 months ago
Anonymous
>You seem upset
I am
poland has to understand its place
if they dont stop Russian aggression *here* and *now*, real human lives could be at stake
2 months ago
Anonymous
>I thought the armed guards going into polling booths and the only real opposition candidate being denied candidacy was a bit sus
HAHAHAHAAHAHA
HAHAHAHA >nalvany >2%, maybe
lmfao, oh and 30 indipendent nations were positioned according to international law to watch over Russian elections
[...] >"it was real in my mind!"
Russian civil war!
belgorod!!
"Putin looks weak!" even!
[...]
i hope he gets drafted! he needs to step-up and defend democracy. I hope he knows freedom is NOT free, someone has to pay for it (not me though, too important, American you see)
Anon, what makes you think the Wagner mutiny was manufactured? To what end would the Russian state want to project an imagine of weakness such as that? What would that accomplish? And is it really impossible for Prigozhin and his company to have been as discontented as to try what they did?
Genuinely curious as to what evidence you have of this.
2 months ago
Anonymous
There's a certain type of mental illness that causes people to believe every single thing in the world is "part of the plan" like they're living in an overly elaborate sherlock holmes novel. It's the other end of conspiratorial thinking. Where on one end of the schizo spectrum everything bad is part of an elaborate evil plan by (insert group), the other end picks a person, country etc to be the protagonist of their thriller story and runs with it. It's fundamentally still people creating a narrative and believing in their own narrative over any actual facts on the ground. Just like in a heist or detective movie where all the events were somehow part of the overly elaborate plan all along, these people will take any event in the real world and add it to their imaginary plot board. Hence the level of delusion you see in these types.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Adding onto this- fundamentally you see this pattern repeat itself in a lot of online schizos. Q anon believers think everything is part of Trump's master plan despite Hillary never being arrested. Vatniks think Russia is going to "take the gloves off" and there's a secret magic russian army that's been waiting in reserve, and that they've basically just been using artillery to kill ukrainians while taking zero losses at this point. It's all just mentally ill schizobabble and you're wasting your time engaging in it. Point out how it's schizophrenic and move on.
2 months ago
Anonymous
So it's just like those Gamestop cultists waiting for the supersqueeze where each stock share is worth infinite money. And then for that definitely totally soon merger with Bed Bath & Beyond so they can take down Amazon. Just like the toddler picturebooks foretold.
All this winning and zisters still insist that Puccia has some kind of upper hand
>only 3 K-kills
haven't seen the v marker in a while
> V insignia
> BMP-3s
>T-80BVMs
VDV bros....
But seriously, this wasn't just some meat wave, these were "elite" troops that got fricked.
they do tho https://edition.cnn.com/2024/03/29/europe/ukraine-faces-retreat-without-us-aid-zelensky-says-intl-hnk/index.html
>“If there is no US support, it means that we have no air defense, no Patriot missiles, no jammers for electronic warfare, no 155-millimeter artillery rounds,” he told The Washington Post during a recent interview published Friday. “It means we will go back, retreat, step by step, in small steps.”
is that what winning sounds like?
>if
You Black folk aren't sending help for more than half a year now.
You say this like we're happy about it. The majority of the people and the majority of Congress want to pass the aid, it's like 6 of Trumps dickriding homosexuals who are holding the whole process hostage. I'd love to see their brains splattered in the street for it, but short of that, we're just forced to wait.
>it's like 6 of Trumps dickriding homosexuals who are holding the whole process hostage
If that were the case, they'd just ignore them and vote that as a bi-partisan bill
Wait, are we at the "russia is fighting all of NATO and winning" or "Ukraine is forgotten and will get no aid" narrative today?
They literally just sent more help you fricking homosexual shitskin
Oh yeah? What was sent?
>Oh yeah? What was sent?
a boris johnson
>"his effect?"
devastating
I feel like Putin has beaten Saddam's 1991 high score
or at least come pretty close
May I see it?
are you blind?
DEPLOY THE GARRISON!!!
Sadly, It doesnt matter
They have an infinite amount of slaves. They dont complain. They dont think. They just die
They can grind the frontline until they breach it somwhere and call it an incredible russian victory. Another 2, 4 8 years of war? 1000 soldiers dying for 100m? They dont care. Enough slaves to do it.
The only good think about this is that Russia wont be combat ready for a serious war in at least a generation.
fricking imagine being buried in a road median, this is all these disposable slaves amount to in the end
never underestimate the enemy; a trillion-dollar GDP spending 15% on war every year can rebuild very very quickly if they unfrick themselves
>if they unfrick themselves
lol
>a trillion-dollar GDP spending 15% on war every year can rebuild very very quickly
If they had liquid assets to do it for few more years
>If they had liquid assets to do it
they have commodities even if not cash
MDCOA
they can always sell Siberia to China, if that's what you meant
The U.S. and Japan should team up to buy all of Siberia and everything to the East of it. Japan gets back its rightful clay, the rest can be turned into a 50-year protectorate. Let us just say ... such an offer would be a one-time offer where refusal is not an option. We need to cuck the Hell out of China before they take a land grab at the big brass ring there.
Nobody's going to let them at this point. They fricked around far too much and there just isn't time left in this world to give a vatBlack person "just one more chance." They burned them all and it's time to put this abomination down. Permanently.
You're naive, my friend. wienersuckers all throughout the world will gladly take russian oil, gas, money and sell them shit.
>trillion dollars gdp
homie what. The entire russian economy is the size of italy's
Italy has a $2 trillion gdp
It's election season in America, once that is sorted out they'll use Puccia's assets and reserves to fund Ukraine.
The actual situation is pretty mixed for both sides. Russians have been adapting.
>1. Ukraine cares about losses, Russia has way more manpower and does not. Advantage Russia.
>2. Russian Glide bombs replacing artillery since Ukraine counter-battery destroyed so much artillery. Advantage Russia.
>3. New Russian hyper-sonics actually hitting critical infrastructure. Advantage Russia.
>4. Russia running low on critical IFV and MBT. More Desert Cross 100s showing up in daily totals is telling. Advantage Ukraine.
>5. Ukraine getting new higher quality equipment from the west after a lull in support. Advantage Ukraine.
>6. F16's coming maybe around July? You know these will wreck Russian jets. Advantage Ukraine.
So they need to hold on and around July the front will be fully stabalized.
>Russian Glide bombs replacing artillery
Ukraine is also deploying glide bombs in greater numbers. I'd say it's a draw
>New Russian hyper-sonics actually hitting critical infrastructure
Any examples beside Kharkiv? Destructions don't seem to be worse than during the winter of 2022
>F16's coming maybe around July? You know these will wreck Russian jets
Maybe. Probably. Not sure it'll make a big difference tbh
>Ukraine is also deploying glide bombs in greater numbers. I'd say it's a draw
You're delusional my friend. AFU got what? Like a hundred or so french glide bombs? Pidors sometime drop that in a single day.
>Any examples beside Kharkiv? Destructions don't seem to be worse than during the winter of 2022
Hitting dams with ballistic/hypersonic? It's bad.
>Hitting dams with ballistic/hypersonic?
When did they ever do that?
>F16's coming maybe around July? You know these will wreck Russian jets.
F-16s are worse than Russian MiG-31s though:
https://www.eurasiantimes.com/f-16s-sitting-ducks-for-russian-mig-31-fighters/
>eurasiantimes
lmao
Read the article. It is factually true that F-16 radars have range up to 150 kilomètres, while MiG-31 and Su-35s have missiles with the range of 400kilomètres.
>SAAAAR WE PAJEETS ARE VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE SAR
lmao
CIT says exactly the same, and they're not Indians, they're as independent observers as one can be.
>SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR YOU MUST LISTEN TO ME
lmao
I'm not Indian, stop clowning. But even if I were, it is factually correct that F-16s radars won't help against MiG-31 and Su-35s missiles P-37M
Nobody is expecting F16s to do some Top Gun dogfighting against Mig 31s.
I mean even if they do some bottim gun dogfighing against the Shit-31 they'll win. Than thing has a piece of shit maneuverability.
The real question is can the light multirole F-16s fight with an interceptor.
My guess would be, with the right jammer and missile, yes. Would it have them ? Probably no.
Most lukely they can make them waste missiles trying to shoot one down tho
>SAR THE NEW PUSSYAN WUNDERWAFFE WILL WIN THEM THE WAR SAR
lmao
>CIT
You mean the ruslan "it was an ukie missile, i promise" leviev? That fricker was wrong dozens of times.
>ruslan "it was an ukie missile, i promise" leviev
Yes, I mean him, but he's not the only person in the CIT, there's a whole team of experts. And Leviev is not a pro-Russian source, if that matters, even if he is Russian.
>That fricker was wrong dozens of times.
Sometimes he can be wrong, usually he apologizes.
>And Leviev is not a pro-Russian source, if that matters, even if he is Russian
He has a ton of russian bias, like most people from russia, even technically oppositional/liberal.
Just compare how adamant he was about Ukraine being at fault of some of the missile strikes (where Ukraine wasn't at fault), but when obvious russian shit happened he just swept it under the rug.
F-16s have AN/APG-168 which has a range of 300km, 180~miles. Or AN/APG-183 which has a range of 370km not aware of any Air to air missiles (you are talking about A2A missiles right) with a range of greater than 70km though.
A quick check tells me that the Mig-31 has a radar that can see an F-16 at 282km (Assuming F-16 has a 5m2 radar cross section), Su-35 is going to have similar radar range
>F-16s have AN/APG-168 which has a range of 300km
Not the Block 20 version, the one Ukraine will receive.
They are asking for AN/APG-83 upgrades for them though
>Block 20
With MLU so equivalent to about block 50/52, also there are untouchable AWACS and global hawks flying 24/7 near the border and over the black sea. If those F16s get connected to NATO datalink and ukraine gets some AMRAAMs it should halt any use of air support apart from missiles fired from inside of russia by MiG 31s (which at this point function almost exclusively as kinzhal lobbing platforms) and the only real threat apart from AA would be R37Ms which capabilities seem to be greatly exaggerated by the ruskies. It's a big fat missile that was originally designed to shoot down big and slow aircraft like AWACS, its claimed range is probably the farthest possible distance under ideal conditions without maneuvering + another 100km.
It would be a damn crying shame if someone's AWACS over the Black Sea designated targets for these F-16s wouldn't it? 🙂
>It would be a damn crying shame if someone's AWACS over the Black Sea designated targets for these F-16s wouldn't it? 🙂
same crying shame this wasnt done to Yemen first, how the frick hard could it be to shut them up?
>while MiG-31 and Su-35s have missiles with the range of 400kilomètres
Do they have radars to see F-16 from 400 km range?
>Do they have radars to see F-16 from 400 km range
They have satellites to see F-16 from space.
>They have satellites to see F-16 from space.
That's not how satellites work anon
So why didn't they stop S-200 going after their A-50? S-200 is as large as F-16
Of course they have. It needs 10 minutes to start, 5 minutes to turn off and grills all birds in 500 m range.
>guiding A2A missiles from satellites
Ok thats a moron.
Their AWACS could do it, but... well... you know.
Oh, you mean the one sovjet missle type from the 80s that was developed for use against big and slow AWACS planes? Totally comparable to amraam or maybe even meteor
>kilomètres
https://www.eurasiantimes.com/publish-your-news/
good morning sir, do not redeem the feces
>linking clickbait add banner news
man you know full well an article is shit when it had a sensational title like "western tanks STAND NO CHANCE against russian superweapon!" and the thumbnail is concept art from star citizen
>7. Ukraine has infinite financial support. Russia is running low on emergency funds.
Huge advantage for Ukraine that no one talks about enough. Russia is running critically low on their emergency funds to keep the state afloat.
Russia has their own JDAM upgrade package for glide bombs and they can equip their old dumb-bomb soviet stocks and it's a huge advantage. The only possible help is an army of F-16's to to air to air kills to keep them back. That's why there were so many Patriot shoot-downs recently, as Ukraine got desperate and moved the Patriot batteries to the front to shoot the Russian jets down to stop the glide bombs.
>Russia is running critically low on their emergency funds to keep the state afloat.
Just the other day I heard an expert on the radio saying their funds will probably last for another two years
2 year is "critically low". This is the "break in case of emergency" money, like a zombie plague or a great depression. They have NO PLAN for what happens when they run out of this, and shit could get very unstable within Russia if this happens.
Ukraine gets grants and loans (which are financial support) from European, American, and International institutions which Russia cannot. This is a huge advantage.
2 years is too long.
>they have NO PLAN for what happens when they run out of this
This is unfortunately also probably true and they will probably go for a hail-mary chimpout instead of fixing their shit
>Ukraine gets grants and loans (which are financial support) from European, American, and International institutions which Russia cannot. This is a huge advantage.
Grants are support, loans are just that - loans. And russia has a better alternative to that - actual export revenues from oil and gas. For frick's sake, during 2022 EU paid russia like 200+ billions of EUR. Way more support than to Ukraine. Shit, for the last two years they got 600+ billion on oil and gas, pretty much offsetting the frozen assets.
>Shit, for the last two years they got 600+ billion on oil and gas
what's the portion paid to them in indian rupees (which they can't use) again ?
Probably $40-50 billion of that is rupees
unfortunately for the internet
Bruh, they'll just start to devalue ruble until the budget is balanced.
Balancing the budget is just playing with numbers. But the people can't eat excel sheets.
Local russians can exist on vodka, beer, søy-infused sausages, cheap pasta and fake cheese, all of which are produced locally
Good ol' Russian siege bread (60% sawdust by volume--- not kidding)
>Like and subscribe for more macroeconomic hacks
>Ukraine has infinite financial support
A-ha-ha-ha-ha, no. If that was the case, Ukraine wouldn't be taking on loans from IMF.
Loans are financial support you dumb monkey
Loans are a business, you subhuman Black person
>Ukraine has infinite financial support
lul. jej even.
>Russia is running critically low on their emergency funds to keep the state afloat.
Russia has infinite money as long as they can exploit their own people. They will take the wealth from their own people without end. If they run out of money they print more, taking it effectively away from people. And russian people wont be able to do anything about it. People will get poorer and poorer but russia won't be running out of money anytime soon. They will turn into turkmenistan/north korea tier shithole but they will still have money
>dood, they can just like, create more money! Just print more and devalue the ruble!
Russia gains money from their tiny economy, oil exports, and their cash reserves. The oil is the only thing that's reliable, as their money reserves have like 2 years left, and their normal economy is too tiny to be worth anything. You can't just magic money out of nothing. This is why Russia's economy is on a 48 month timer until it literally starts to collapse.
I think the general consensus since December was that Ukies will have to hold on through 2024 with absolute low being probably in the late spring/early summer and in 2025 situation should get more balanced.
Puccians took out five large powerplants last night. Not substations but power plants. Hard to repair maybe not even possible.
>Puccians took out five large powerplants last night
Didn't hear of that. Where?
some guy on twitter said so
>3. New Russian hyper-sonics actually hitting critical infrastructure
not him, idk if it was the kinzhals actually doing it but Russia did hit a bunch of power stations in their last chimpout missile barrage. But a Russian MP put it best when in a rare moment of clarity he said attacks on the Ukrainian power grid are basically worthless because you will never actually knock it out without hitting nuclear power plants.
(i think he was implying they should do that which is insane and stupid given wind patterns in the area would send most of the fallout to Belarus and Russia proper, but at least the core of it was a clearsighted assessment).
The Zircon hypersonic is much harder to intercept, and it hit the Kharkiv power plant and took them out.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-uses-zircon-hypersonic-missile-ukraine-first-time-researchers-say-2024-02-12/
https://kyivindependent.com/ukhydroenergo-years-needed-to-restore-dnipro-hydroelectric-power-plant/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3M22_Zircon
>hypersonic
>it's actually a ballistic missile
That's like saying that the water is wet.
>The Zircon hypersonic is much harder to intercept,
Patriot already got one.
>it hit the Kharkiv power plant and took them out.
and can russia make enough of them to take out all power plants in Ukraine (like they already said they would with the saheds)?
>Patriot already got one.
I said harder, the previous Hypersonics were batting 0% right? This one is hitting 50% it seems. So each time Russia makes 2, one very high priority target will be taken out? They'll make a few each year and that combined with the glide bombs is very bad for Ukraine.
>This one is hitting 50% it seems
A sample of one is not enough to draw broad conclusions.
>So each time Russia makes 2, one very high priority target will be taken out?
presuming they can actually hit them.
>They'll make a few each year
I'll believe it when I see it.
It has an awful CEP but maybe if that strategic target is very big
>The Zircon hypersonic is much harder to intercept, and it hit the Kharkiv power plant and took them out.
Because Kharkiv isn't protected by Patriot systems, because they are in short supply.
>Because Kharkiv isn't protected by Patriot systems, because they are in short supply.
Fine. Ukraine needs like 10-20x more Patriots, 20 more Slav systems, 10 more Nasams. But they don't have them and that's the problem.
That's a modern concept of states that's practical. Russia still operates on some quasi-mystical horseshit about Russia being somehow super special. So the downside is that they see it as defacto important even if it can't do anything, because a world Without a Russia is not a world worth saving. They're THAT much up their own asses.
>Ukraine needs like 10-20x more Patriots
Yep, 10x patriots (i.e. about 20 systems in total) would neutralize most of the shit.
Ukraine doesn't have 10 Patriot batteries, it has 3.
Why did you post a render of the Boeing X-51 Waverider?
yes, you may see it, as soon as the power is back on in kharkiv, and everyone can charge their phones
>while they have no chance to win an air superiority war against any major NATO adversary they can at least partially level the playing field trough AA spam.
when does nato get air superiority over Yemen?
when's the next north korean ammo shipment coming in
>whens the next time my buddy will drop me 4million rounds of ammo, to go with my 4 million rounds?
not sure but who turns down ~~*Free*~~ ammo regardless of how much they have?
I have no clue how anyone but a pole or a euro or someone who has never seen a gun could possibly think *more ammo* is some kind of *own"
>when does nato get air superiority over Yemen?
They had it on day one.
>muh "glide-bombs" AKA homosexual slav speech for laser guided bombs
>muh hyper-sonics
No. The advantage is that Ukraine is running low on artillery ammo due to European and American political homosexualry. This is why you never give up nuclear weapons.
>They dont complain. They dont think. They just die
And this is a problem because...?
If they were a decent functioning state, they'd complain and there would be massive ramifications back home. Imagine if France engaged in some Tank and IFV charge in Africa with everyone dead with no gain? There would be hell to pay back home and they would likely withdraw forces.
Because in a normal country you can have a meaningful life instead of expecting to die when your slavedrivers usher you to war or when your liver gives out
>They have an infinite amount of slaves. They dont complain. They dont think. They just die
They complain endlessly, just that it's a slave state and their complaints amount to nothing. Whining on telegram is the most that they can do.
>infinite
Fricking hell, no no they don’t.Have you looked at the russian demographics and birth rates?
Ukraine's situation is just as bad if not worse because they don't have brown muslims propping up birth rates. Ukraine needs to maintain ~4:1 K:D to stay even on that front which I don't think it has ever hit on net, but their losses were a lot heavier proportionally before Russia ran into shell hunger which it still operates under though it's not the worst it has been for them. Now guns are more of an issue than shells as you can tell by them carting out fricking interwar artillery pieces.
Russia can't sustain this offensive pace for that much longer. like the other guy said it's the AFV shortages that are heavily undermining them. They no longer have enough to even take advantage of a breach if one emerged. Even if they still have hulls to reactivate and 'modernize' they aren't keeping up with losses and they keep trickling them in a few vehicles at a time like a slavic DotA teamfight where everyone runs in one at a time screaming DAVAI DAVAI BUY BECK PIDOR BLYATTTT!!!!
You're thinking long term, literal future generations who will have trouble.
But short term, like "fighting war short term" the Russians will always be ahead since they have literal millions of men that they can send to the frontlines as canon fodder before their system actually starts collapsing.
So unless the russian army revolts or the Ukies get world war amounts of weapons and ammo to continuously deliver death non-stop, this war will stay a stale-mate for years on end until Ukraine probably runs out of men to fight...
>their system actually starts collapsing.
given the current state of despair of their civilian infrastructure and housing, one would argue it's already in freefall
>You're thinking long term, literal future generations who will have trouble.
That's literally the issue
Even if Ukraine runs out of men, so will Russia if the war goes on for years. Though I wouldn't be surprised if Russia had no game plan whatsoever for that eventuality
>Though I wouldn't be surprised if Russia had no game plan whatsoever for that eventuality
It's literally "endless hoard of Africans".
Even long-term russians don't have issues. Check their population in 1991 vs 2022, then check of other post-soviet countries. Why do you think russian population didn't decrease in the same was as ukrainian, latvian and so on? Because they were and still are importing migrants by the butt load. Jokes about calling moscow "moskvabad" (like "islamabad", "jalalabad" and so on) got started within russia in early 2000s. They're literally importing up to a million migrants per year.
The idea of "Russia" has lost use. What is the purpose of "Russia". Can it be replaced with something better? Probably. That's why countries are invented. They are useful.
Russia has no actual use. It can't maintain its borders, currency, or people.
> They're literally importing up to a million migrants per year.
Those are rookie numbers, Canada is exceeding that.
Nah, canada is importing less than 0.5 million per year. Even that is a lot, yes, hence Canada's population is booming, while russia uses 1+ million imports per year just to offset people dying off.
Russia is bringing in tens of thousands of browns to fight this war.
Ukraine is doing about 5 kills for every loss but Ukraine might just be able to field about 1 million soldiers in total through this war. All Russia has to do is grab 5 million villagers in corrupt shitholes that don't care about their own population to win.
If the US wasn’t run by a geriatric moron the CIA and VOA news would have already engaged in a heavy handed information warfare campaign to make these recruiting countries hate Russia for killing their citizens.
>INB4 CNN is CIA info-op
It’s not popular with Turd worlders, just liberal Americans. The US is asleep at the wheel with it’s immense soft-power network, and should be turning this into a massive scandal, while in reality Jake Sullivan and Biden are stupid fricking idiots.
>The US is asleep at the wheel with it’s immense soft-power network, and should be turning this into a massive scandal
the totality of western media is fervently pro-ukraine, and has been since word-one on feb 22, how could you possibly believe this?
I can read, but you operate from the position that anything you saw Prigozhin do was
>*a real coup a civil war even!* and he *marched on Moscow, Putler ran!*
which i utterly and completely reject as homosexual Russian theatre designed to scramble baltic brains, the only audience dumb enough to believe something so absolutely goofy
>the totality of western media is fervently pro-ukraine, and has been since word-one on feb 22, how could you possibly believe this?
Not English speaking news you goof, but foreign sources. Spark outrage that Russia is scamming these poor people into dying in their stupid war. USA has a lot of soft power, but they aren't as good using it anymore.
Info-ops: you can run VOA radio, as well as social media campaigns, in India, Central/East Asia, Africa, and South America to showcase their citizens being lied to and dying for a war they have no stake in. This is only highlighted in Western news, which isn’t watched by turdworlders.
It’s a massive opportunity to destabilize their working relationships with international partners and the US hasn’t jumped on it. The CIA used to be the best at this kind of stuff
>morons make voluntary mistakes, news @11pm
how is any of what you describe different than the highschool cafeteria recruiting station?
lmfao verbatim, everyone of your (insert thirdie nations) could just have "jefferson higschool cafeteria" slotted in, and it would be the same argument
>hes 'concerned', demoralized even, by the words he reads on PrepHole'
ngmi
>hes 'concerned', demoralized even, by the words he reads on PrepHole'
Do you even know what "concern trolling" is, you curry Black person?
You clearly don’t understand how 3rd worlders react to things.
In Cuba they shut down a Russian recruitment network after loved ones lost people.
In India, there is increasing anger about people who went to Russia for work and ended up getting recruited and died in Ukraine.
This is a powder keg that the US could inflame with the right tactics.
Both the governments the the people hate this shit. The governments do NOT want people working as foreign mercenaries, adopting who knows what ideologies and gaining military training, and then coming back. Governments don't like a bunch of trained military men not under their own control. The people back home hate having loved ones go missing after they get scammed into fighting and dying for Russia.
These are supposedly "friendly" nations to Russia, so this is prime to drive a wedge between them.
As a Latin American I can tell you, at least on the Cuban side of things, they don't give a shit. The people don't like it so when they complain enough they may shut down some places, tell the Russians to send the people responsible back to the RU embassy but otherwise they don't give a shit and may very likely be gaining something from it. This isn't the first time this goes down in Cuba either, similar things happened in the Cold War.
And no, the CIA was never good at anything close to this. The CIA was always the shortbus of major intelligence agencies.
>And no, the CIA was never good at anything close to this. The CIA was always the shortbus of major intelligence agencies.
Real talk: yeah. America has soft power and hard power, so why bother with this kind of bullshit? Russians were lacking in a lot, and already trained themselves in exploiting their own ethnics, so they became masters at this kind of subversive bullshit.
hahahaha actually having a fricking almost coup attempt is a masteful 5d chess psy op by the gallant intelligent Russians!! Only such stupid ignorant fascists like the baltics could fall for it!!! *~~)
>lose 17 tanks+Ifvs in single attack on a village
>it doesn't matter
You could make a career in RuAF
>eastern slavs self-genociding
A golden age of online gaming is about to begin. Thanks Putin.
I hate this absolutely moronic line of thinking. A willingness to throw men and material into a wood chipper for little to no gain does not mean you will win. I can't imagine the vodka-soaked thought process needed to believe in the Pyrrhic defeat (a few more disasters like this and we'll win!).
Ukraine will run out of manpower faster.
No they won't. Every Ukrainian would have to be dead. This is a religious,cultural, money, family,blood feud.
Are the Russians willing to lose 60 million people.
Have you listened to interviews of the frontline people? They already have problems completing units.
Are the Russians willing to lose 60 million.
Until the Putin is alive, it doesn't matter if they're willing or not.
Then they might win. This holy war for Ukrainians. Either their family was killed,their churches were bombed or their lives were destroyed
It's a jihad for better terms. You don't blow up 500 churches, dozens of maternity wards and schools rape tens of thousands
Then expect your enemy be like "okay peace now"
It's Jihad. Blood feud. Post war it will still be there
>Then they might win. This holy war for Ukrainians. Either their family was killed,their churches were bombed or their lives were destroyed
I wish, they're honestly pretty normal risk versus reward type people and a bit self-serving. Ukraine missed out not recruiting more volunteers during the initial frenzy when the Ukraine capital might fall. Now that it's calmed down many of the 20-30's who are the bread and butter of armies will do antyhing but sign up to fight to help Ukraine. They'll donate, volunteer, work in jobs, but actually fight? Ehhh.... can't someone else do it?
And Ukraine is a democracy so they have to deal with such pressures, while the Russian dictatorship can just send more men to die and cover it up so there's no backlash.
Esl?
>This holy war for Ukrainians
Again. You're saying this from a perspective of /k/ poster.
Not that long ago there was some ukrgay who made a thread while sitting in the barracks on the frontlines, and he said they struggle to motivate people to go on perimeter patrols.
Most people don't want to die, no matter the nation they're from.
Anon I just pointed out it's a holy war with the facts and you are giving me some indian larping story.
muh holy war
how the frick did the crusades end up?
Pretty well for the defending side.
What are you even trying to say.
What I'm saying is that you're overestimating Ukraine capabilities of achieving TZD. And it's the only way they can win. Putin is just fine turning it into a forever war. He just fricking called 150k more mobiks.
I think they'll just keep cutting away at refining of oil and ng/pet production and gradually they'll just go broke then it will turn into Venezuela where everyone kind of does whatever
And when gas prices will go up, the support for Ukrainian effort among western average Joe will start to dry up.
Russia stopped exporting gas a month ago. The world moved on, besides China and India.
Russia will just go broke then collapse.
Fuel. Oil. Crude.
Anon... This is bait right
Why do you think so? Who is the Plus in the OPEC+?
Motherfricker learn the difference between crude oil and gasoline. This has to be bait
I'm sorry, are you saying there's no relation? Where do you think gasoline comes from? What do refineries do Billy?
A couple weeks ago Ukrainians blew up a refinery. Russians announced they were increasing crude exports
Do you understand why
>Russia banned export of refined oil
>no increase in oil prices
>14% of Russian refining gets disabled
>Russia increases export of crude oil
>increase in oil prices
Hmmm...I'm not expert in economics but I think hitting Russian oil refineries shouldn't have effect on oil prices
The normal every day Ukrainians aren't mindless drones, they're normal educated Europeans. they rose up because they could see through Russian bullshit and saw that they were getting a raw deal. The flip side is that you can't get them to form suicide squads like you could Arabs or other goofballs with 85 IQs. You may notice a lot of teen and 20 something Ukrainians playing online video games instead of fighting, because yeah, wouldn't you?
As explained here
Russians aren't even fighting the war anymore. Ukraine is just killing random mongols.
Are Russians willing to lose 60 million people.
It's a simple question
Well, yeah. I mean, those that are dying aren't Russian. Russia doesn't care about their minorities.
In fact clearing out millions of Asian and Muslim men from Russia is just making the ethnic Russians a stronger group in Russia.
We can only hope so
Tech >>> Manpower. 1 HIMARS crew gets 500 frags in a good day.
Better go do some more disastrous attacks to be sure
>They dont care
There's been plenty of protests and plent of people getting locked up because they do complain.
Putin is a dictator but nobody can keep a war running forever
anti invasion russians are like 0.001% the rest are happy with muh stronk Russia larping as great value nazi Germany
I don't hate Russians, but I think I'd hate this Russian.
What a shitty mindset.
>Karen was too sincere
> therefore she was hated
Wow. Just ... wow.
Russia is probably more combat ready now that at the beginning of the war regardless of the massive material losses.
Now they have hundreds of thousands of veteran soldiers, even if the mortality rate is high, enough survive gaining extremely valuable combat experience to be a very large amount. Now there are about one million Russians in this war.
The military industrial complex is unfricking itself and corruption is getting punished which wasn't the case since the decades.
Tactics are being updated and they are beginning to implement some basic combined arms tactics/dynamic defense.
They had horrible opsec at the beginning of the war but it has been getting substantially less easy to get info on Russian battle plans recently.
Their drones have been getting better and much more numerous, their EW is now much less of the sad joke that it used to be.
While overall the Russian military is still quite the shitshow it is clearly showing improvements.
Ultimately the still notable industrial capacity united with massive amounts of soldiers make the Russian military an hard to handle enemy at least as far as ground war is concerned. The ability to spam large amounts of moderately good air defense systems also make them not a complete pushover in air war, while they have no chance to win an air superiority war against any major NATO adversary they can at least partially level the playing field trough AA spam.
On any maritime engagement they are likely quite hopeless but they retain enough naval assets to still at least be a nuisance to minor NATO powers.
>corruption is getting punished
yeah but this doesn't mean shit (even if it's true) because they've burned through their material at a limited rate. Doesn't matter how many veteran soldiers you have when you can only send them to the frontline in a 10 thousand dollar golf cart.
>Now they have hundreds of thousands of veteran soldiers, even if the mortality rate is high, enough survive gaining extremely valuable combat experience to be a very large amount.
veterancy is not some bing bing wahoo exp thing, get this moronic video game logic out of your system
>veterancy is not some bing bing wahoo exp thing, get this moronic video game logic out of your system
sure it isnt^
I liked it better when zigger bullshit on here wasn't this full of self-pity and delusional fantasies of big poweful but stern Russia that grits its teeth and suffers like the wondeful Samurai they think they are.
useless fanatic
uuuhh you fanatic uuuh you're evil warmonger neokon whatever
I remember when this was the line in 2022 too.
Anyway, count down till we get the Russian that pretends he's Ukrainian and keeps b***hing at /k/ laughing at Russians and never posts any proof
>Now they have hundreds of thousands of veteran soldiers
Raheen, my friend. It doesn't work this way. Keeping a mobik or a low level contractor in trenches for months on end as they see more than half of their squad wiped out doesn't turn then into better soldiers. It literally cripples them for life both physically and mentally (millions of those is something Russia will have to deal with for the next 20-30 years now).
Officers are the ones who get better with experience and guess what? These experienced officers can't even advance their fricking careers because Russia's entire political system is built on nepotism and Putin being scared shitless of replacing (moreso actually punishing) any high-ranking officials, no matter how incompetent they get. So they're in this moronic perpetual trap of having a whole bunch of good officers who are wasted by being forced to execute moronic meat wave orders.
>Keeping a mobik or a low level contractor in trenches for months on end as they see more than half of their squad wiped out doesn't turn then into better soldiers. It literally cripples them for life both physically and mentally
we know, western media is constantly reporting on ukrainian man-power shortages, yet they press on. are you some kind of vatnik trying to demoralize us?
>Stealth bombers are a hard counter to ground based SAM, this is not speculation, it's mathematically impossible for ground based SAM to meaningfully contest airspace against modern stealth bombers.
so the US, who has hundreds of these, couldnt even spare one or two, to open up a window into Moscow? why? why werent 1 or even 2 B2's sent to SEAD Moscow into dust, so ukraine could thunder-run into the gap, like day one of desert storm? why send hundreds of thousands of lives, and $hundreds of Billions of dollars into the trash, when just 1 or 2 B2's could have put the vatnik baby to bed 2 years ago?
>all that cope
Oh stop crying you little b***h.
>so the US, who has hundreds of these, couldnt even spare one or two, to open up a window into Moscow? why? why werent 1 or even 2 B2's sent to SEAD Moscow into dust, so ukraine could thunder-run into the gap, like day one of desert storm? why send hundreds of thousands of lives, and $hundreds of Billions of dollars into the trash, when just 1 or 2 B2's could have put the vatnik baby to bed 2 years ago?
Because they wouldn't want to give one their most advanced weapon to a third party like that, they are not even in NATO, also it's unlikely they would be able to operate them, this is isn't a truck with a few missiles on it.
>Because they wouldn't want to give one their most advanced weapon to a third party like that,
who said anything about *giving* it to anyone, i said
>why didnt the US just shit wreck Russia from Rostov to Moscow, with a paltry, meaningless 2 B2's, sparing hundreds of thousands of allied lives?
>Spark outrage that Russia is scamming these poor people into dying in their stupid war.
that only works when that side is *losing* and to date, Russia has amassed some 300k voluntary recruits since feb22 alone, mostly by massively upping salaries
no one feels "scammed" in this scenario,
there is no animosity
there is no loss of public consent, in fact 80%+ are "for it"
and no amount of western liberal talking points are going to break that messaging
>that only works when that side is *losing* and to date, Russia has amassed some 300k voluntary recruits since feb22 alone, mostly by massively upping salaries
YOU GOOF LEARN TO READ
Russia is scamming foreigners from places like Nepal and India into fighting their stupid war and dying. The governments are not okay with this. Cuba threw a shit storm and shut down a Russian recruitment scheme last year over just this issue. The families aren't on board either. It's a perfect storm to get people pissed off and to help close these recruitment scams.
Because US politicians clearly don't want to dissolve the Russian Federation, they have pretty much stated this, even preventing Ukraine from striking inside the country, they don't want to deal with the fallout like in the 90's where the West had to feed russians so they didn't all starve, they still believe Russia will come to its senses at some point.
Ukraine isn't in NATO so there isn't the obligation to enter a war for them in such a direct way and the West is generally wary of military conflicts since it places maintaining living conditions for its people above bravado.
>Ukraine isn't in NATO so there isn't the obligation to enter a war
And if west doesnt want to help Ukraine might actually consider developing and deploying bilogical and chemical weapons as final frick you and west will have to live with the consequences. If they arent willing to help, all geneva conventions disappear as a defender against overwhelming power there is no other way around other than committing war crimes.
Same thing any other country will do after being betrayed by the west. Cant get nukes? The only way to ensure you will exist is to develop biological and toxic weapons. Dropping some Botulinum bomb over city will cause more casualities than a nuke.
>they don't want to deal with the fallout like in the 90's where the West had to feed russians so they didn't all starve
The money western companies can maki in a non-moronic Russia would cover that help tenfold. Balkanisation of a country loaded with nukes was and still is the primary concern.
What US politicians want is irrelevant, Europeans and Ukies don't care and the countries that matters are fine with zigger genocide.
>The ability to spam large amounts of moderately good air defense systems also make them not a complete pushover in air war, while they have no chance to win an air superiority war against any major NATO adversary they can at least partially level the playing field trough AA spam
Stealth bombers are a hard counter to ground based SAM, this is not speculation, it's mathematically impossible for ground based SAM to meaningfully contest airspace against modern stealth bombers.
?t=1050
>They have an infinite amount of slaves. They dont complain. They dont think. They just die
FRL and SB are both gaining members because guys from the front are over it. Send more guys to the front without rotation, supplies and support and they'll grow faster.
At some point the amount of land lost to new graveyards has to outweigh the amount of land they've captured
> Infinite Vats
Russia has the population of Mexico with the birth rate of Japan. Their losses are unrecoverable.
They are importing about a million shitskins per year for the decades now
The only reason Russia's population has flat lined the last decade is that they've added the 2.5mil from Crimea and 4mil~ from Donetsk and Luhansk and then since the war started another few million from the other areas so far as i'm aware. If Russia does end up getting pushed back to pre-war borders their population will drop a lot
Looking at it
Donetsk: 4.1mil
Luhansk: 2.1mil
Crimea: 1.9mil
Kherson: 1mil
Zaporhizia: 1.7mil
Sevastopol: 550k
So assuming Russia loses all of them they'll lose about 11mil population, not counting any further military deaths.
Bruh, depending on the region 50+ percent of the locals emigrated from those territories after 2014.
Bring in the golfcarts!
This does seem to be one of the bigger armour pushes that's happened for a while, they lost so much shit in Avdiivka that there just seemed to be barely anything in the way of frontline units available since. It'll be interesting to see if this is sustained or they go for the Mario Kart achievement award again
Imagine being buried!
has anyone checked on this guy recently?
I don't think he's gotten better and walked home yet
Last time I've seen this pic, it had 3 slides, so yes, he still there
As of last week, reports have arrived that he's still dead.
returned under own power
there is a fifth slide in which he looks visibly ran over with impressions of a large tread probably from several wheeled personell carriers, merging with the dry dirt road next to him, becoming a part of the road. Not even kidding, but I can't seem to find it right now.
Doubt he was recovered, probably buried half a foot under ground now
I think he's still there awaiting extraction. Google sat view shows a dark smuge at that spot.
send in the clowns
>generation
ever, they can do it just because they had soviet stockpiles based on exploitation of satellites
They also tried a assault in north Novoprokopivka which had the same result. 10+ vehicles were lost here.
Is that a T-55?
Up the front with the cope cage? Think that's a 62
It's T-55 obr 2024 you wectern decadent, a GREAT MBT for future generations to awe upon
I thought there was a cable running between their barrels so that the tanks were in nunchuck configuration from the thumbnail
it's actually for secure comms with secret tin can technology. HATO can't compete.
>get in the lada niva comrade, we are going to liberate the satanists
I think that's a UAZ or GAZ jeep.
>the lone little lada
no chinky golf carts?
Fresh zuicide
>then roll to your rifle and blow out your brains
RIP
although if I were him, I'd at least have put it on full auto first
jeez, how many zigger suicides is this by now we got here? at least the 70th?
45
I am left wondering how many casualties in WW1 and 2 were suicides. Seems like it might be an under recognized issue that we now know from this war.
Being a Russian soldier is so horrible. You are sent to a field alone and told to dig a hole with your hands.
When you are wounded you know you are fully alone. There is no back line, there is no help or relief coming.
Just you, your hole, and your dirty hands.
>Just you, your hole, and your dirty hands.
lewd
>Just you, your hole, and your dirty hands.
I feel like this describes many phases of the Russian soldier's experience.
it's Russian peasant culture that the bolsheviks shared generously with everyone they could get their hands on.
>Just you, your hole, and your dirty hands.
watching a r*ssian take his life while enjoying a nice meal after an intense leg workout. life is good. cherish these moments because one day we'll stop getting videos of r*ssians doing good
What happened to the other 24 tanks and 4 BMPs? Did they manage to actually establish any positions or was this a total rout?
BMP's likely had all the ablative armor with the tanks being there to help them push through so i doubt they were able to take what they wanted. Not impossible since no one is saying the attack failed just that they lost a frick ton of armor but i wouldn't expect it.
>What happened to the other 24 tanks and 4 BMPs?
retreated
>See literally everyone 500m in front of you explode
>Lads lets not go that way I think?
They're either learning or they're losing the will to attack.
>Eurasian fricking times.
Do not redeem sirs.
This is a demonstration of what happens when you betray an ally and starve them of equipment, funds, and ammo just when they're engaged in hard core fighting. I'll bet the orange heinous and his diseased pack of zombie MAGAts are sucking each other off in ecstasy over how they pwnd Zoglensky.
They only destroy 1/3 of the enemy tanks and 2/3 of their IFV's? They win either way.
Not enough. You homosexuals could've sent weapons which would 10x the numbers of dead pidors, but you're weak, you're afraid of your own strength, you're afraid of what might happen if russia losses so hard that people inside might start asking unpleasant questions.
>you're afraid of what might happen if russia losses so hard that people inside might start asking unpleasant questions.
Our politicians are gay, news at 11
You can't extract votes from fatties by promising war and hardship even if it's the right choice
If russia doesn't lose hard, you're get more war, simple as. They need to get kicked back to pre-2014 borders, otherwise they'll ape out more. Even a meter of land will be considered a win and bolster this behavior.
I understand that, do the politicians in charge? No.
The voter will cry blood over having to pay 0.0001% more taxes and vote to pull support, not much you can do
>promising war and hardship
the conflict is half the world away, no US citizen will get harmed. this is the perfect chance to neuter Russia. you literally only need to send weapons
>the conflict is half the world away, no US citizen will get harmed. this is the perfect chance to neuter Russia
And by proxy also neuter chinks. A big russian loss with cool down the slant eyed fricks at least for a generation.
Even a single dollar of increase in gas prices would be too much for the average american voter.
The worst thing of all is this shit will continue to happen, and shills will become more comprehensive investments by countries that couldn't hope in hell to win their revanchist wars against the west without trying to convince western populations to not commit to the defense of allies.
>your favorite shitposting sites will forever be flooded by pajeets/chinks/ziggers begging you to let them win and insistently posting agitprop about trannies
>>your favorite shitposting sites will forever be flooded by pajeets/chinks/ziggers begging you to let them win and insistently posting agitprop about trannies
As opposed to right now where my favorite shitposting sites are forever flooded by hohols/troons/pajeets/commies begging me to let them win and infinitely posting agitprop about white supremacists?
yes western world should be shutting of the lights and giving up control to BRICS
The new members:
>oil
>economic disaster
>economic disaster
>economic disaster
>economic disaster
>oil
slava Z
Argentina and Saudi Arabia didn't join anyway
>Brazil
Best buddies with France and the EU. Want nothing to do with other turdworlders. Lula is a tankie but knows that Putin was behind Bolsonaro.
>Russia
lol
>India
Would rape their mother and sell her on the street for a few rupees
>China
His investments in South america and Africa have angered the locals and they've proven to be cowards in the field. They're just looking from a distance trying to bet on the winner.
>South Africa
lol
>new members
my sides
>Argentina
hahahaha, holy shit it would be so funny
>Lula is a tankie but knows that Putin was behind Bolsonaro.
/k/ tá tão na merda esse final de semana que eu ainda tenho que ler essa merda. Puta que pariu, realmente alguma coisa deu muita merda pros Russos.
>Argentina
Oh please please let them try to invade the Falklands again
>egypt's income from suez canal tolls plummeted thanks to iran
lmao even
Don't forget that Egypt keeps threatening to go to war with Ethiopia
Ethiopia deserve it
>Ethiopia deserve it
Why? It is an honorary Aryan country.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Ethiopian_Renaissance_Dam
Water Wars
>Economists: Wow BRICS has huge potential. All they have to do is play ball and not do something catastrophic politically and economically.
>Thirdies not being moronic for 2 years challenge (impossible)
>Saudi Arabia
>UAE
>Iran
surely this would be a fruitful and trusting alliance in the long term
Outside of US/NATO allied nations there are almost no real 'fruitful and trusting alliances' of significance, the only ones i can think of involve the DPRK having pretty solid long term friendships with Iran and Ethiopia.
>ethiopia
You mean Eritrea?
Ethiopia, they are long time allies. Their AKs and small arms are made in factories provided by the DPRK. The US even turns a blind eye to our military aid money going to the DPRK via them.
>The US even turns a blind eye to our military aid money going to the DPRK via them.
Why not just sell them cheap 556's instead? Cut NK out entirely and transition them to NATO standards?
We can't, we maintain a very strict arms embargo in the Horn of Africa and Ethiopia has a horrid human rights record. They want defense independence not a bunch of second hand ARs.
Them and the DPRK are legitimate friends, close enough that the friendship survived the Derg losing power. Ethiopia wants weapons, not people whining about human rights.
The American alliance format screws with thirdies
"Don't shoot us, we won't shoot at you. Let's shoot at people who shoot at us. Otherwise I don't fricking care"
There's no master slave definition
If there's one thing the Ukrainian War has taught me, it's that for most of the world "alliance" and "friendship" means a willingness to vote abstain in the UN and sell weapons for hard currency at exorbitant rates.
I was thinking how it has proven that the idea that western economic values promote liberal democracy is utter bullshit. Iran and the DPRK sure as hell aren't liberal democracies however if you doubt their commitment to capitalism go talk to the guy in charge of Russia's foreign currency and gold reserves.
It already has both China and India.
BRICS is so funny, it looks like a completely random collection of countries but honestly seems like it's a terrible alliance
>India and China have border skirmishes every now and then
>Iran is currently crippling one of Egypt's main sources of revenue
>Egypt may go to war against Ethiopia in the near future
>Brazil, SA and UAE are friends with the West
>SA is currently waging war against an Iranian proxy
>quads of truth
BRICS isn't much of a formal alliance, but a grouping economists made up for economic up and comers. But they're filled with such diots they're shooting themselves in the foot.
It was actually made up by someone from Goldman-Sachs as a marketing term.
Broke morons In (need of) Chinese Support - The Alliance
>BRICSAAEEIU
Rolls right off the tongue
ICERUBIES
Saudis and Argies left
I.E. ICE ASS RUB
Shouldn't you be in church with your parents right now? How's your homework packet for Easter break coming?
You are not even trying anymore.
Homework packet finished already eh?
It’s too bad Western, Liberal Democracies can’t be bothered to persuade their own citizens to support their Bushite-retread horseshit.
>nuh-uh American foreign policy has totally changed since 1992
Yeah, Joe Biden says MAGA-hatted, bigots hate our Freedoms, not fureenur Muslims. Completely different. As the oil money comes from places not named Texas, so it’s twice as not the same.
You can tell Ukraine is losing because their grand victories are approaching ever westward
>55% of Americans say they'd rather vote for Putin than for Biden
/misc/ is not a correct place for opinion polls.
Joke's on you. /misc/ already voted monke by a margin of 87%.
This entire thread is cope for the fact that Zelensky threatens to retreat unless American aid is delivered to Ukraine immediately.
Thats not what the threat was. It was Total Refinery Death until more aid comes
>55% of Americans say they'd rather vote for Putin than for Biden, though.
50% of Americans are below average intelligence
>According to Ukrainian pilots, the R-37M isn't achieving a lot of "hard kills", the destruction of actual Ukrainian aircraft. However, their launch forces pilots to abandon their current missiles and take evasive action.
>Russian wunderwaffe is actually only good for suppressing MiG-29 and Su-27
Well I mean, they built them they know how to fight them.
It's worth noting the Ukies have only R-27 and no real jammers.
Makes me wonder what could have been if they had R-27ERs or R-77s
My guess is Total Migger Death
According to whom?
A few days ago, someone on pol posted a graph of an X.com poll in which 50,000+ respondents said they'd rather vote for Putin than Biden in November.
>X.com poll
Very reputable then. Clown
>/misc/ quoting twatter
are you being moronic on purpose
>a graph of an X.com poll
>Calling it x.com unironically
You're officially brain dead.
>twitter
So bots and thirdies?
Elon frick off no one cares homosexual
>50% of X is bots
I don't even have a reaction face for this level of moronation
this is quite possibly the worst source you could have quoted
Not even that, he didnt even provide a source.
Obviously bait
>a twitter poll
My condolence.I will pray for you,you definitely need any help you can get.
>someone on pol posted a graph of an X.com poll
I never post soijaks but I almost made an exception for you.
I don't even know anymore...
I hope this is just chat gpt bot and nobody is actually this moronic.
The fricking I read on /k/ sometimes holy fricking shit lmaoooo
Doesnt matter, we still have 30 million men to send and more tanks than the west has bullets
tick tock butthurt belters
Two more weeks then?
Should be enough to take a couple of villages.
>we
My tax return form probably killed your uncle.
>something embarrassing happened to Russia
>quick derail with us politics/religion/or some other bait
Lmao I was wondering what kope the glowBlack person containment board would have for us today. Bretty gud homosexuals
>containment board
Ironic. Go back
You realize that doesn't make sense right? Are your moronic brains this broken?
Go leave, the actual containment board
Die vatBlack person.
how humiliating is it being this incapable of originality
Ooooh it just makes us so steamin mad when someone heckin disagrees reeeee
This is a blue board and you have a specially designated street for shitting.
Thank you, janitor.
there's another post drone hit suicide, where's the "another one" guy, he's slacking
>70% of posts in nu-/misc/ have this or lower quality
I used to get troony pills from Russia all the time, tbh
>nooo you have to fight le ebil russans for us!
>some poorly drawn victimhood narrative trying to bait idiots
Yeah we all know those poor blockbuster employees are da REAL victims
The real joke is every 221 years there is a massive famine due to insect life cycles.
You know what that means
Any of this could happen to me and I would still fight Russia
Shills just refuse to understand how bad Russia is
Based understander of the stakes and how some of our domestic disagreements are borderline trivial in comparison.
>gay normal gay facebook npc le yes face meme
You are a fat person and you do not look like this.
>braindead shitposter still thinks russia is losing their war against anyone besides ukraine
It's amazing how little of that is accurate. It's time to go back on the meds.
And yes, they constantly raid /k/
BLM and antifa are russian subversion operations
gay. Americans are Americans. They could have 13 penises, if we get to shoot Chinese invaders together I will gladly join them.
>Noooo you can't fight le heckin' wholesome russirinos! You have to shoot at each other!
>No, Russia funding radical political groups in your country doesn't justify your opposition to it because... uh... because you lynch Black folks!
also, reminder that the entirety of Russia is populated by gays, has been for centuries, and everything bad that has ever happened to that country is God punishing them for being such massive homos.
https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/61249351/#61249351
For you indians, Paki and Chinese.
Last time this happened was 1775. It partially led to the American revolution
It's that year again. With the war in Ukraine, this cycle. You all gonna fricking be hungry.
>Russia has been trying its damdest to stop Ukraine grain shipments
God what idiots!
>Anonymous
It's the 221 year cicada cycle. Death is coming
I don't think people appreciate how much effort the First World spends trying to keep the Third World from starving to death all while the Third World tries to stop them.
Seriously. Give me your honest opinion.
Are the Russians willing to lose 60 million to win this war.
What happens when Russian IFV stocks run out later this year? Their current yearly production rate only covers 1-2 months of fighting.
they may start swallowing chink wiener for shipments of chinese IFV's idk
Nope. China avoids sending "military aid" to both Russia and Ukraine to avoid sanctions. Everyone knows that the thousands of UAVs they send to both Ukraine and Russia are turned into weapons, but everyone turns a blind eye to that since it helps Ukraine so much. That is why they have sold them only Desert Cross 1000's. Rinky dink 85HP ATVs.
Damn, why anons here underestimate Russians so much? You know this is one of the biggest mistakes in warfare? To underestimate your enemy? Russians did exactly that with Ukrainians at the beginning. I have even seen comments about Baltics being able to destroy Russian army with ease as they are in NATO and have Western doctrine. I don't know what you guys are sniffing, but you have to stop. Russia is a serious threat and should be taken seriously.
The big difference is that Baltics would have immediate NATO backing, with troops and forces from Finland and Poland helping out almost immediately plus naval backing from Sweden. With Ukraine, they're alone and they have to negotiate each adn every thing they want from donor countries, but in NATO it's already pre-arranged what to do in the event of an attack. NATO makes all the planning and cuts through the red tape.
Baltics + Finland + Sweden + Poland = Russian advance ground to a halt.
Germany + France = rest of Russians pushed back
This happens before the Americans even mobilize.
>Russia is incompetent because they barely managed to capture anything in two years and lost ten of thousands of soldiers,thousands of vehicles&tanks and burned thourgh six decades of soviet stockpiles
>nO yOu CaN't say ThAT YOU'RE uNdEReSTImATinG rUSSIa
How is anyone underestimating them?
You forgot 90% of current russian army is currently engaged in Ukraine, so Prigozhin column could move hundreds of kilometers per day inside of the country without resistance. Also take a look at these numbers:
>486 HIMARS
>32 F-35
>48 F-16
Poland alone could steamroll the current Russia up to the Ural.
>Poland alone could steamroll the current Russia up to the Ural.
why havent they?
or was it some kind of gameshow watching hundreds of thousands of ukrainians lose their lives, while their literal next-door neighbor had 3x maybe 4x the capability to walk over Moscow, just sitting in fricking warehouses
what you describe is honestly sick
its repulsive
if Poland alone could have prevented this tragedy, why didnt it?
32 f35s and 48 f16s should have been OVER MATCH to establish a no-fly zone, which alone could have saved hundreds of thousands
so why didnt poland do even a token strike or two to soften up the Kremlin?
Nooooooks, moron.
>Nooooooks, moron.
-10,000 redlines crossed
-no nukes
so whats the excuse?
90% of the Russian military is engaged right?
Prigo walked in the front door and he didnt have f35 or 486 fricking himars+ammo
and were talking about poland, seminal military power, vs Russia the 2nd best military in ukraine
Disregarding every other argument, who could they have nuked regarding Priggie's coup?
>Priggie's coup?
lmfao, I dont believe or fall for Russian theatre,
that was for the captive balt-audience
anyway, why hasnt poland, with its fricking 486himars+ammo, and near 90 nato fighter jets, not blasted a path 100 miles wide from Rostov to Moscow?
SURELY, such an act would have saved countless hundreds of thousands of lives in ukraine, wouldnt it have?
you can't read, can you poltard
>why havent they?
Nukes, moron. That's the only reason the Moscow regime hasn't been wiped out they deserve.
Which is also the reason why muh NATO encirclement was bullshit as a reason to invade Ukraine, mind you
>why havent they?
I recently talked to a tough MMA fighter Polish guy from my team and he is fricking scared of Poland joining the war.
So on the population side, I think its an irrational propaganda-infused cowardice. And on the government side, they may need an approval from US/Space X to use Starlink swarm for countering nukes in case Monkey won't die with dignity.
>Russians will be out of IFV stocks soon
A meme 2 years ago, but not in 2024
What am I not understanding? Why are the Russians depleting their army like this?
Two more weeks and they run out of everything. Trust the plan
>If we, the attackers, simply do nothing - then we win!
What part of the plan involved using chinese golf carts?
>What part of the plan involved using chinese golf carts?
the semi-dismounted minefield crossing part^
>liberal democracy is utter bullshit.
you got that part right^
>2010, Kim il Sung amuses IT workers by reading them Francis Fukuyama quotes, de-hypercolorized from Juche-vision
>would you like to see how deep the juche goes?
>Are you Morpheus?
>No, but we have pills.....
>Red or Blue?
>Pervitin, Meth, Captigon, Viagra and Juche....
cutting out the dead weight, that is if they were smart and had ussr tier production capabilities
They've been running out since the start of the war (more destroyed or captured than they create). It's just catching up to them. Russian doctrine favors offense, and they perpetually think Ukraine is on the verge of defeat and will cry out for at least a cease fire any day now.
I mean duh? Russia was literally using the black sea fleet to try to starve half of the developing world for seemingly no reason. And that world was gonna support Russia to help end the Ukraine war in their favor! God what idiots!
The recent failed attacks in the last 3 to 4 days explains all the ESL trolls and concern posting about the masculine and unbeatable Russian human wave attacks.
So the new zigger propaganda line for the internet can be summarized as glorifying "glide-bombs" and "hypersonic missiles" and getting all full of self-pity about the wonderful horrors of human wave attacks, how they are bad but they will win the war.
I liked it better when last year around the time Bakhmut was being attacked zigger psyops were just "no u" troll posts where you reversed the shitposts about Russia to be about Ukraine and the US instead.
Speaking of glide bomb belgorod just got bombed again by the russian. Didn't explode, unfortunately
I like how every fricking time this moronic shill pops up in a /k/ thread, he starts with this moronic concern trolling about about "us" not being able to win because ziggies are this manifestation of tyranids. But the homosexual just can't help himself and always ends up reciting his moronic zigger agitka at anons.
I wonder when are they going to start utilizing the "Ukraine isn't a democracy because they, unlike based Russia, chose not to organize elections in the middle of a war" cope. Perhaps, it's too fricking moronic for anyone outside of russian internet.
>I wonder when are they going to start utilizing the "Ukraine isn't a democracy because they, unlike based Russia, chose not to organize elections in the middle of a war" cope.
They have been since last year
why didnt they have elections though?
surely the population would have rallied around that cause, right? I mean how could there be any broken consensus on that one?
>Do you even know what "concern trolling" is
no could you tell me? and speak slow so my brown brain can process it
how do you "accidentally-on-purpose" join a military? I want to make sure I dont make the same mistake !
>don't want to dissolve the Russian Federation, they have pretty much stated this,
they have stated precisely, exactly the opposite time and time again, in fact, nato pays a $6-figure+ position to sit in DC/NYC and plan exactly this
>Balkanisation of a country loaded with nukes was and still is the primary concern.
THIS^
this is nato's primary objective and the DNA of the entire campaign beginning with ~~*football hooligans*~~ in maidan, to day 769 of Putins 48hr brunch in keev
>pic related
You get mobilized while being on a work visa. Are you a moron or something?
>mobilizing foreign nationals
lmfao, sure^
may i see the proof?
Have you been living under a rock or something? Many are given work visas but are just somehow ending up in a war zone? Stop being a moron.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64582985
it's always the mass repliers with the most useless opinions
>how do you "accidentally-on-purpose" join a military?
You get to russia under the guise of working in construction or other such stuff, while inside russia it just so happens that the contract that you've signing without knowing the language was actually a military one.
>why didnt they have elections though?
>surely the population would have rallied around that cause, right?
It went like this
>zigger agents start poisoning the well saying Zelensky is a dictator and should hold elections
>some of our westacucks take the bait and start saying the same
>Zelensky damage controls to get his aid deliveries and says he will hold elections soon
>the courts and population say it's unconstitutional to hold elections in wartime and the president should shut up
>Zelensky says uhh ok my mistake and shuts up
It was funny but democracy and laws were respected so ziggoids can shut up
>It was funny but democracy and laws were respected
why didnt all the same apply in Russia?
I thought the armed guards going into polling booths and the only real opposition candidate being denied candidacy was a bit sus
>I thought the armed guards going into polling booths and the only real opposition candidate being denied candidacy was a bit sus
HAHAHAHAAHAHA
HAHAHAHA
>nalvany
>2%, maybe
lmfao, oh and 30 indipendent nations were positioned according to international law to watch over Russian elections
>"it was real in my mind!"
Russian civil war!
belgorod!!
"Putin looks weak!" even!
i hope he gets drafted! he needs to step-up and defend democracy. I hope he knows freedom is NOT free, someone has to pay for it (not me though, too important, American you see)
You seem upset
>You seem upset
I am
poland has to understand its place
if they dont stop Russian aggression *here* and *now*, real human lives could be at stake
Anon, what makes you think the Wagner mutiny was manufactured? To what end would the Russian state want to project an imagine of weakness such as that? What would that accomplish? And is it really impossible for Prigozhin and his company to have been as discontented as to try what they did?
Genuinely curious as to what evidence you have of this.
There's a certain type of mental illness that causes people to believe every single thing in the world is "part of the plan" like they're living in an overly elaborate sherlock holmes novel. It's the other end of conspiratorial thinking. Where on one end of the schizo spectrum everything bad is part of an elaborate evil plan by (insert group), the other end picks a person, country etc to be the protagonist of their thriller story and runs with it. It's fundamentally still people creating a narrative and believing in their own narrative over any actual facts on the ground. Just like in a heist or detective movie where all the events were somehow part of the overly elaborate plan all along, these people will take any event in the real world and add it to their imaginary plot board. Hence the level of delusion you see in these types.
Adding onto this- fundamentally you see this pattern repeat itself in a lot of online schizos. Q anon believers think everything is part of Trump's master plan despite Hillary never being arrested. Vatniks think Russia is going to "take the gloves off" and there's a secret magic russian army that's been waiting in reserve, and that they've basically just been using artillery to kill ukrainians while taking zero losses at this point. It's all just mentally ill schizobabble and you're wasting your time engaging in it. Point out how it's schizophrenic and move on.
So it's just like those Gamestop cultists waiting for the supersqueeze where each stock share is worth infinite money. And then for that definitely totally soon merger with Bed Bath & Beyond so they can take down Amazon. Just like the toddler picturebooks foretold.
>Russia did some emeberassing frick up
>thread derailed with US politics