What's the absolute most cheapest tinyhome I can build for a plot that has city and water hookups?
How much money should I be looking to spend?
Tinyhomes
What's the absolute most cheapest tinyhome I can build for a plot that has city and water hookups?
How much money should I be looking to spend?
>plot
>city
coded to death
It's in the mountains though
Stupid feminist regulations and feminist government leeches not answering or returning my calls all fricking day
they won't
noe will they give you a straight answer about what you can do
they'd rather lie in wait and send the inspector to generate fines
I called and they said it's out of city limits and I need to talk to the county...who won't answer
County dependent probably something like a 14x14 insulated shed with all the nice creature comforts as required by code. You can use this as a primary domicile and then park a nice 5th wheel and NOT live in it full time.
14x14? Is that the minimum?
It's normally a square footage rule in your local code. 200 sqft primary dwelling is a little more than 14x14
Go in person whether you want to or not. That helps useful interaction and winning hearts and minds vs. tying up a phone is the smart play.
Avoid the resentment trap autspergies fall into so easily. Human networking is useful and good. Show up looking local and wholesome and chat them up then get PRINTED copies of all relevant laws by asking nicely. My method is "I'm new at this so would you educated me?" then let people talk because most like being asked for advice. Speak little, keep ears open, get info.
Cheapest shed from local garden store that’s big enough to hold a bed, stove and sink? Around $1600 here for one that has windows. Maybe shave off $200 if you already own the tools for building one and have access to cheap lumber
Build one from pallet wood for free.
Military surplus tent. Not a shitty tiny tent like you'd go camping in but a large one designed for housing personnel for extended periods of time. They're made for all kinds of weather conditions in some of the harshest parts of the world.
I need a shower and a toilet
You're asking how to build a tiny home on PrepHole. You don't deserve a shower. You get the hose. You can shit outside
Not if the citystein won't let me
Build a shower house around back and an outhouse then
Wouldn't that be a pain to insulate and make sure it doesn't freeze over?
Massive
>he doesnt shower in antifreeze
its over
>I need a shower and a toilet
I'm sick of living off grid
A foid would not take that lifestyle as well
Okay...maybe I'm wrong. Let's see how womfy this is
>Plastic water tank
I don't see any difference between this and a normal bathroom
In fact it's inferior
Not everyone has their own pond they can get their water from too
those are quonset huts and they are galvanized steel. there are a million suppliers of them
Those are NOT Quonsets (now many decades out of production) but modern military fabric shelters.
Steelmaster and other trussless steel buildings are what you're thinking of like the ever-popular military K-Spans, which are also available in Flat Desert Earth color (white is better when no need for camo).
t. military and construction shelter nerd who owns a Steelmaster and four 40' High Cube containers converted to comfy shop space.
Would you buy another Steelmaster? Is the quality control, cost, and customer service good?
I have heard mixed reviews about Curvco.
I'd love another and after I add perhaps my last 40ft HC container I may bridge two with one of their container covers. I don't need customer service since they're simple as a rock.
Mine was easy to erect and since I used anti-seize on the bolts easy to take down when I PCSed to my last base before retiring. I used steel beam (used steel is often a great deal vs paying for concrete and is MUCH faster to deploy) for the foundation and bolted the Steelmaster base channel to that (the beam was a bit narrow so I used large washers and notched the beam edges rather than drill, it's quite strong). That gave me a foundation which was also a concrete form when I poured my slab later. The base is railroad gravel (doesn't settle, dissolve or crush) and the slab is 6" fiber reinforced concrete 20x20 so I can add any machinery I like. It's currently a welding shop with an old racetrack auto body/frame machine bolted to the slab. (It's also full of work in progress so no pics since I just scored two nice Saylor-Beall compressors and am setting them up so I can sandblast properly.)
I bought mine in ~1994/95 (I forget exactly) and its in fine shape today. Galvalume is the shit. I have heard under extreme snow loads some deform but I refuse to live where there's winter. If I did I'd connect the shell to the same style steel base I use with pipe and headers to run a gantry which I may do anyway (you can never have too many ways to lift heavy objects) solving that decisively.
Used steel is glorious. Fecesbook Marketplace is a good source.
That would be frickin rad, I slept in one once and I like em
There’s tons of this shit on YT. You could do a 2 story Home Depot shed with a camper stove and a rain barrel for under 7k easy. Do the insulation yourself.
if you don't care about being legal ,a few thousand
could build a basic shed for a few grand, easily, if you own the tools
if you do care about being legal, forget it
how do you propose that will meet code and pass inspection and get approval for dwelling?
>build 12x12 cabin
>then build 100x100 workshop
broblem?
>pass inspection and get approval for dwelling
The goalposts have moved.
they havet
there are like 6 remaining counties in the USA that will let you do as you please
more than that, if you never tie into electricity in many counties they will leave you alone until it involves septic which you can sidestep with a composting toilet or an outhouse.
https://www.epa.gov/uic/large-capacity-cesspools
Read this and understand more. I'd double check how your county or state even regulates buried waste, most states do not regulate human waste for less than obvious reasons.
That's the plan
Tinyhomes should be legal
You bring shame to your people
Man I can't stand toil dude.
I'll learn Japanese and go on business there and make it big
Just need a little more weed and a little more roids first myaaannn
If he brings shame to his people, and his people are not apart of that ~~*tribe*~~ Who run the banks and promote Degeneracy, usury, subversion and perversion of nations, that so be it sheklestein.
I suppose you're right
OP said "build"
not "live in without the local sheriff/police evicting me and ordering my structure demolished and fining me every day it still stands"
but he also said he wants grid hookups
no permits, no inspections, no hookup
all these serious replies do not understand
it is perfectly doable, no shit
and it is illegal
you are stealth camping, according to the law
if you want to own anything that requires paperwork, like a car with tags on it, what are you going to put down as your legal address, where you receive mail? it doesn't even matter cause you won't be able to get a driver's license, or even an ID
your $5000 15x15 shed is not code compliant
making it code compliant will make it a $25,000 shed
under $10k = 40 year old meth shack singlewide
Depends on location. My disabledbro built a pole barn "shop" on his cheap rural property that wouldn't pass a perc test. No problem. He then piped his shitter to his pre-existing (and built to look much older) outhouse which uses a pit latrine.
He'll never shit enough to over fill that but should that happen he can just dig a second pit or place his own septic tank. For many decades those were made using cement block and precast slabs which are easy to transport, or use a plastic tank.
Why do you care about approvals? Wayne lives in an illegal shack with no plumbing and code-enforcement hasn’t done anything.
I don't want shekelblatt goldbergowitzstein stopping by with a fine
Then forget about tiny homes and trailers.
I was able to live in a tinyhome on my mum's land for over a year in that development.
Might be okay if it's hidden in the trees
>Might be okay if it's hidden in the trees
It HAS been okay while hidden in the trees before
So are you going to spend the extra money to go code-legal, or not?
How much is it?
General cost
What exactly is "to code"?
Not a tinyhome?
Many areas have a minimum square footage for a home and it's not going to be 80, more like over 1,000.
Fricking hell
What I have in Colorado is the OP pic
Which I believe is 10x12
Maybe I'll attach another one to it on a concrete pad?
Frick
1000sq is easily in the $20000 range
Frick that
I could get a fricking house for that
It will be fine and no one will bother you, just don't expect a county sign-off.
Good
Maybe I'll just say frick getting a well or city hookups for now too
I can use solar, the tinyhome is already equipped with solar and everything. Just thought the new plot in New Mexico might make it easy one me, but I'll forget about 1000sqft and the total babeage there. No water or power and limited money with that route
So New Mexico is great for finding single women?
Yeah the ratio is amazing
I called the city office in the small town I was looking at moving to and it was all women, an incredibly good sign
I would love to live there.
But polluted city water, nosy regulations officers, no prefab tinyhome and me poor old mum begging me to live in the same mountain neighborhood as her and she will provide me with water from her well.
My house will probably only yield me $30k at best to deal with. It's $15k for the land in New Mexico...I'd be pretty fricked without her help...but that Colorado neighborhood has ZERO b***hes...what do I do lads?
They may have city water but I'm not allowed to hook up to it. I'd have to get water in town, a massive hassle. I'd be out of money immediately after living there and forced to work a fricking shite job with no access to the community college b***hes for at least a year while saving... sounds way worse than NEETing in mountain paradise helping mumsie and fricking off to Japan for a few years letting my dad or brother live on my property as a sign of good will and familial obligation
>city office was all women
It's like that everywhere. High pay for little work.
Not in Colorado which is dude central. Half the time you'll get an effeminate numale basedjak answering the phone. Hated living there with all the dudes and what little women there were are dykes and turboprostitutes. I'm a introvert anyway but I would have way, WAY less chance of finding a wife there compared to New Mexico and I only have less than 6 months to decide which state...same price for land but a massive difference in the living situation and babeage situation. It's a huge decision and I need PrepHole's help
He won't allow a dwelling that doesn't have a mortgage and has been doing this a lot longer than you.
Bullshit
My mom bought a proper house and built it on land
It just needs a concrete pad
Which is sadly out of my NEET price range
A NEET should probably be thinking more about how to get a job than buying a home
I'm selling my home and buying land
NEET4LYFE
I guess it depends where you live. Where I am, they only care about setbacks and shit like that.
Is 80 square feet to small for you?
I need a bathroom, and appliances like a miniature washer, dishwasher, kitchen area, bedroom, I'll build a separate shed for working out/gaming
So what is your bare minimum square footage?
Well, I'll take a look at 80 but around 100 for sure
What do you have in mind?
Colorado or New Mexico lads?
I would build a sip home. In my personal opinion anything smaller than 500 sq ft is going to be uncomfortable unless all you own is a computer
https://www.mightysmallhomes.com/kits/cottage-house-kit/
That's extremely expensive
>480 sqft - $222,000
The absolute state.
Can't find these "SIPs" here in the States, but they're all over Europe, Asia and other Third World holes.
The only versions I've found are made with OSB, or are massive, industrial variants, but nothing that is your basic 4x8 panel.
I like little huts, and I cannot lie.
In Ontario, Canada they recently increased the max backyard shed size without needing a permit from 100 sqft to 160 sqft and 13 feet of height. Could you live in something like this?
But approved as a dwelling?
If you have to ask, then you can't afford it.
5/10 low effort bait OP. I do like you adding the part about having city connections though.
Lads, do I move to New Mexico with city water and power and build a tinyhome from scratch and ride my bike into town to pick up foids or go live in the same mountain development as me mum and borrow her tinyhome and use her well and shower at the service center and learn Japanese and find a white foid in Japan on business after I SIGMAXX and learn Japanese and make manga and videogames and roid out?
Me mum is in Colorado btw. Grew up there. Never been to New Mexico but apparently it has a much better gender ratio
Either way I'm buying land
do americans not have picrel? in OPs scenario I'd just make up a reasonably sturdy, level pad to park it on and you're away, instant home
obviously it's not ideal but it's cheap and simple, since it's a trailer there's no codes or regs to comply with, do whatever you want
I live on a farm in bongistan in one of these, I put a wood stove in for the winter and an LPG water heater for the shower etc
for shitting I either wait until I go to work or dig a hole somewhere in a field
the only utility I have is electricity, water comes from an IBC tank with a 12v pump attached, internet by 4G router
don't overcomplicate it is my advice
forgot to say also, if the pencil pushers do kick up a stink, simply hook it up to your truck (or hire someone to do it for you) and tow it elsewhere until they frick off and then put it back, or sell it
very little to lose and might just solve your housing issue, at least for now
I don't own a gas guzzling truck nor will I ever
see:
>(or hire someone to do it for you)
you don't even need a truck of your own, if it goes to plan you won't need to move it hardly ever
besides that, I get the impression that you don't want a reasonable, practical solution, you want someone to magically write down a silver bullet so you can build your shed on a hill without being taxed or inspected, which will never happen
your first mistake was telling the planning people you were even doing it, just do it anyway, keep your costs low and keep it hidden
I guess I could borrow my parent's camper if they let me but it'd be cold as frick and me mum is begging me to live close despite it lessening my chances of getting a gf
Those do exist in america, in fact they're everywhere. You can even get one with a full bathroom in it. Tinyhome gays would rather fantasize about some moronic shit like converting a shipping container than using one of the myriad solutions that already exist (not that they ever actually do it though, this is PrepHole after all)
In my country a trailer can’t be used as a permanent dwelling.
Move out to the boondocks. If you move far enough away from the city you'll eventually find a place where no one gives a frick if you're living in a trailer.
>can't do this or that, it's not legal
you're not robbing a bank lads, you're finding a frugal living solution. just do it anyway and keep it hidden
as I said here
and here
, just don't tell The Man that you're doing it, don't tell the neighbours, don't tell anyone who doesn't need to know
actually building a structure is expensive and very difficult to keep under wraps, buy a trailer, fit it out how you want it, paint it green/brown/whatever camouflages it in with the landscape and tow it in at night when nobody can see
as I said, I already live full time in a caravan/trailer, here's a list of stuff that I did to modify it-
>installed wood burning stove
>removed old gas powered fridge, cooker and heating
>installed electric oven and hob
>installed electric mini fridge
>removed old wiring and replaced with 2x picrel hooked up to a 16 amp power supply
>removed old lighting ad replaced with remote control cheapo 12v ebay LED system
>removed old water system and replaced with 1/2" push fit pipe run on the underside of the trailer powered by a 12v diaphragm pump on a pressure sensor switch
>installed propane water heater hooked up to the shower
>pulled out the old furnishings and cut down an old double bed + mattress to go where the seating area was
>replaced all the horrible plastic taps with nice metal ones
>lots of other small things to make it feel more cozy like new curtains and blanking off some of the windows
it sounds like a lot, but if you're disciplined with doing the work you can do all of this for probably £1200/$1500 (not including actually buying the trailer) and it solves your problem of G man reeing at you, if he does, just move it somewhere else for a bit and then put it back
Neither is like a camping spot
They have to have the utilities installed, whether it be from a well or the city lines
A plumber won't do it unless it meets code
Simple as
Plumbers are expensive, why wouldn’t you want him to do it to code?
I do
I just don't know what tinyhomes are to code
Sounds like it's 1000sqft but that's not worth it
Plumbers don't care about you square footage. They just want the pipes to be correct.
I don't think they'll work on something that isn't up to code. They're monitored by the county.
Neither do I. Still have to pay the bills and still have to live in a flat shithole regardless.
Nothing else to do than work
Can you do your own plumbing?
If I have access to the well?
Maybe.
Think I might even have to drill a well on the land in Colorado which is exorbitantly expensive
This is getting confusing. Maybe you ought to list where the land is, how big it is, what utilities it has, and who is the code enforcement agency for the area.
Two plots
Both 1 acre
New Mexico
>Has city power and electric
>Needs something that can hook up go them that also has heating, possibly my parent's camper but I'd rather not pay for propane and it gets too cold without it
>15k
Colorado
>Have to drill a well and connect off the main power lines
>Have a tinyhome equipped with a wood burning stove and solar ready to be placed on the plot
10k
>Has city power and electric
Do you mean gas and electric? Are the meters set on the property?
Shoot I mean water and electric
Are the electric and water meters set on the property?
I don't know...all it says is city water and power hookups
It says city water and electric line
What says that?
It's realtor.com listing
Unfortunately there is no realtor for the area and the county inspector won't answer so I'm stumped at the moment
It's outside of city limits though which is looking good.
It's at least 100 miles west of Denver
Yeah I've heard people in the development have hard luck digging for a well. I can just use my mom's if there isn't a well on the property I buy
>realtor.com listing
That's a terrible source. But if the meters aren't there then budget $20k each for the fees and installation.
Also if there's no sewage, you need a septic tank that can be accessed
Hope it has sewage but I don't have a trailerhome just a camper.
Guess if I can find a cheap one...
Trailerhome or camper, sewage still gets created and must be disposed of lawfully if you want to be up to code. That includes wastewaters from toilets, sinks, showers, washing machines, spas, etc.
If it has hookups I could just connect a trailer to them.
If it doesn't maybe a cheap septic tank in Colorado? Man how much for plumbing and specific? Probably all I have and then some
>If it has hookups
If you are not certain that these lots have hookups, then they don't.
It says city line...I have no idea what that means
In some places you can get a holding tank installed. It's much cheaper up front than a septic tank but must be periodically drained by a septic company.
If it doesn't cost too much it's either than or installing a septic tank and living in a RV/trailer/camper as far as New Mexico goes
In Colorado the properties I'm looking at have septic and and a well. There's double the acreage but it's also double the price, and again, there would be no pussy there as opposed to New Mexico where I can take my road bike down the mountain into town and work part time and go to the community college and frick b***hes
Don't bother drilling a well in Colorado unless you've got the money to drill real deep right off the bat. Aquifer water levels are consistently dropping a significant amount on a yearly basis so odds are the well is gonna run dry within a few years. Not the case everywhere, but definitely look into the historical and current aquifer levels where you plan on moving
fricking hell do you have an IQ of 70 or something? if you want this shit to be cheap you're going to have to pass up on some stuff like mains utilities
if you want this to be CHEAP (!!!) and reasonably doable then forget the fricking codes and paying other people to do it, get on youtube and do it all yourself so that it just works and keep it quiet
>b-but muh electricity!!
get some solar panels and leisure batteries, use low wattage LED lights on a 12v circuit, have a small inverter for things like a laptop and your phone
>b-but muh plumbing!!
as above, 1/2" push fit pipe on a 12v pump attached to a 1000L IBC (you can easily fit this on a trailer and the water will last weeks)
also use a propane water heater for shower
>b-but muh sewage!!
build a compost toilet outside in an outhouse, heat it using ducting from the wood burner, septic systems are very expensive
>b-but muh [insert literally anything]
use your brain and ask more specific questions as the problems arise, there's always a solution if you have patience
OP is a moron and doesn't understand basic shit, it's infuriating, don't bother any more
New Mexico sounds janky as frick compared to the womfington tinyhome i Colorado but if I can get running water it would be dankpilled
Mummington will just have to do without me
Colorado is incel central
He genuinely is just fricking stupid. My guess is that he's 16 to 21 and can't deal with working a basic job and now want to go full into the wild without realizing that that's even harder and still costs a shiton of money.
He wants someone to give him a nice link to a magic shed that has pluming, electricity, septic system, heating and AC for 2k or less.
Dumbfrick
READ the fricking thread
I HAVE A shed that has a wood burning stove and solar and it's insulated
All that it needs is plumbing for it to be maxdank
I lived in it for a year and boiled water on the stove and showered in a washtub with a portable shower
I've fricking done this shit before
Vile wagie scum
Hell it even has a portable toilet with a disposable waste system.
I'll just use that and use a generator to pump water from the well if I don't have enough shekels to install my own plumbing and utilize the already present septic tank
Already did.
The camper idea is not bad for the lot in New Mexico. Maybe I'll convince my brother to buy that one and we can switch off living situations and enter into the NEET Nobility class
>Still hasn't figured out that he can drive to lowe's and buy a handful pipes after 1 YEAR
Fricking zoom zoom. can't even open youtube because his brain is fried from using endless scrolling user friendly iphone apps.
Pathetic.
It's on my mom's property dumbass
I'll be putting it on my own property and installing plumbing, unless I want to wait and build a nicer house once I make it big as a NEET entrepreneur
Again, READ
>I HAVE A shed
Then why are you asking all these questions about square footages? What is the square footage of you pre-existing shed?
It's around 200sqft I think
Because it's located in Colorado but I'm also looking at land in New Mexico
A 10'x20' shed is technically a wide load. It may be cheaper to buy another shed in NM, especially if you want something larger.
I might but the camperlad has me fully camperpilled right now, specially since the city has a line connecting water and power to the property
Him:
"It might just be better to finish school here since I'm already here though"
>The credits can be transferred. The community college in New Mexico will have way, way more women, you'll own your own land in the mountains and you'll have an insane edge, the land is only 15k you'd be paying like $100 bucks a month on a mortgage compared to $500 on rent, you'll easily save up enough to pay it off in less than a year
Dude he's living with our dad in incel central that is Colorado getting no chicks while he's in fricking COLLEGE
Why is he fricking up so badly by not buying this lads. He could even buy the lot next door and have two acres and I could build something there or put our parents camper there as a guest house for either me or our dad to visit and we'd all get to enjoy the paradise of the central and southern Rockies.
But no, I have a dimwit as a brother
Frick. I'm trying to convince my autist brother to take the camperpill but he's being obtuse.
He's living in my parents condo and my dad just moved in with him so that has to fricking suck. He could even use my grandpa's camper if he wanted, maybe, considering my grandpa is a boomer israelite it may not happen but it doesn't hurt to ask.
If he doesn't buy it I'll work hard at NEET industries and buy them both.
You have zero, and I mean zero, communication skills. This thread is mess of you desperately trying to string rudimentary sentences together.
Nah you just suck at reading
Read the thread, you'll find most disagree 🙂
Nah just you and another autist thinking you're superior when if you read the entire plan start to finish mine has evolved to mog your asses top to bottom little sissy cuck
>Man who can't figure out his shitting situation thinks he can call anyone an autist
Lol. Lmao.
I have no problem with shitting situation in Colorado but the city plot in New Mexico, which was my original plan, is ambiguous. I COULD shit in the woods, but is it sketch? After reading the thread it seems fine, but I would prefer to get a holding tank or something more civilized as I'm moving there to get b***hes.
>move to NM for the women
Never heard that before. Are they indians?
The gender ratio is 98 men to 100 women
Best gender ratio in the country
I'm just messing with you man. Get a composting toilet, it's a 500$ investment but it works well. I have one indoor at my hunting cabin and it doesn't smell.
I think I already have one. Yeah I'm gonna save and not get plumbing because I want to buy that land in New Mexico and neither my dad nor brother will help
Pluming is only worth it if you want a true, permanent, with foundation type of residence.
Get one which separates the liquid and solids. You can route the pee to go directly outside in a little gravel patch and the solids can be taken out like a garbage bag, you can even use it as fertilizer for flowers, or food if you're brave.
I'd still probably put it in the camper in New Mexico and probably buy the lot next to it and put in a permanent residence
OR my brother could
But he wants to buy a house for 300k in Colorado instead of a prefab house in New Mexico with a camper he rents out on the next lot.
He would rather be a wageslave.
I don't get you guys man
I'm even offering to give him money
How much?
However much I can after I sell my house and buy land in Colorado, probably enough to help him get both lots. Maybe 5k?
Doesn't seem like he's very interested. I might just have to buy the land myself if that's the case and go there when I've made it big in my NEET ventures
My grandpa is a greedy boomer and would never give me the camper specially because he hates me for not becoming a debt slave from college. He probably wouldn't even give it to my brother, and just keep it for himself.
>build a compost toilet outside in an outhouse,
Dig a reasonable pit latrine (check legality, ignore everyone who does not live where you do) then do what my bro did and discreetly pipe your shit there. You can't shit enough to fill one for decades if dug reasonably deep.
Alternate option, just use the RV blackwater tank as intended then dump it in a hole of your choice now and then. The point of an RV is ability to go without external plumbing or shore power. None of this is difficult.
They're not legal to live in, not well insulated, rely on propane for heating, require a truck to haul and don't even have a proper bathroom
My parents MIGHT let me borrow their camper, MIGHT
But my mom is far more likely to lend me the tinyhome which is equipped with solar and I may even outright buy it for her and install a bathroom from the well
If it's legal
a cuckshed is a cuckshed
It's temporary free housing. I'll build a gym/gaming room shed as well
Camper trailers aren't meant for long-term living. They'll start falling apart after a few years. That's why for permanent dwellings they have those mobile homes.
>posting a thread on PrepHole about building a meme tinyhome and complaining about israelites and women
You aren't getting a gf anyway.
I've had no problem getting foids in Nebraska
Colorado is the incel state
campers only fall apart when they aren't maintained, especially the roof
>do americans not have picrel?
Not really, they have reasonably sized ones you connect to the water and sewage when at a decent campground. ... pulling out a tiny box of shit to dump into a sink somewhere like the dutch seems rather strange to them.
Any house you build will need those to meet code. Odds are you're a citycuck that has to live near your barcades and diversity so you're going to have to deal with even more codes on top of that. Just buy an existing dwelling it will save you a ton of money and headahces.
Nah it's a mountain lot outside the city
it just has city hookups
It's in New Mexico bro
Read the thread
Then it's not the city. All you need is septic and well. Learn proper terminology.
I didn't know that before making the thread
Fricking diversity hire f*moids wouldn't answer the phone
Besides I never fricking said it was in the city
Should have read the thread goy
I mean, what fricking spoiled ass hoe would live in a camper or shed with me?
The plus side is it's near the continental divide trail. I was hoping to rent this house in Nebraska but it's too far away and I can't save up enough money for the New Mexico land or get a loan...frick I just need passive income while I hike the continental divide trail and chill on my land doing small improvements but with these homosexual regulations it seems out of the question.
Can't even have an old school spigot eh?
Frick our troony government
A homestead takes time
We have hispanics and meth heads living in sheds all around my town. One of the last big storms literally flipped this one, which looked like the one in OP. I used to think it was a decent idea until this, because this wasn't even a tornado. Just strong winds
That looks like some pussy ass metal shit
Then why is so much wood visible?
Those are studs
The pussy metal shell and roof is cucked beyond belief
Your blaming the siding?
Yes, and the lack of insulation and a wood burning stove
Probably in tornado alley too
What kind of stove will you have?
Bro it's a cheap wooden shed. It's supposed to keep the rain off your garden tools. There's no 8x8 HSS steel skeleton
Don't need to worry about winds powerful enough to knock it over in the mountains
Simple as
Aint any winds in Colorado or New Mexico strong enough to do that
wtf, we never have winds like that, is this an american thing?
beautiful mediterranean weather here, the air gets a bit dry in the summer, but it rains regularly
Thanks for asking, Abdule, it's actually a crazy phenomenon called weather that can be experienced in most parts of the world. It sounds like you don't get to experience nature's majesty as she tears through the weak and unprepared on a whim. No better feeling than watching an F3 flatten shanty houses, cuck sheds and meth labs in its wake. Funny thing is that while migrants are literally using the Mediterranean to invade Europe, my sweet lady Miss Severe Weather is single handedly whiping out all the meth heads and illegals. I get giddy when my weather alarm goes off, because I know the wind is probably ripping the roof and raining down on the undesirables. The weather is truly the white man's best friend
uh ok man
I'm not a goat fricker and we don't have migrants here
if you're referring to the sea, I don't even live anywhere near it, mediterranean literally means "surrounded by land"
I'll pass on the whole "majesty" thing, I prefer its static incarnations like canyons, fresh air, lakes and plains
but it's a based defense mechanism if it destroys junkies and illegals
that's fricked up, this is why people that dream about moving to japan are morons
I guess housing is cheap if you live on the coast, though
>all that cope over some bantz
Man I thought this would be one of the last places reddit got to....
I don't use shiddit
My autism makes me impervious to banter
I live in on the east coast (Appalachia) and we regularly will get gusts of 40-50 miles per hour (64-80 kph) during the summer's rolling thunderstorms and it can be higher if you're near a gap in the mountains. I'm sure the great/high plains are even worse with wind. During clear days if there's a pressure front I can get 25-30 mph gusts easily, no storms in sight.
USA is a windy place.
do you live near the coasts or something?
I'm at least an 8-10 hour drive to any coast. This is tornado alley baby! Get prepared or get out!
What's the point of getting your own home if you don't have any money to live?
I'm using all the money from selling my house to just sit on and chill. I'll probably have like $50k, it's 1$10k-$15k for the land and I at the very least need plumbing in New Mexico. I just have no idea how much it will cost and if I spend all my money on some bullshit that either is or isn't up to code I'm fricked, depending on what the situation is.
>it's yet another "amerimutt romanticizing living in a shanty shed" thread
Feels good to live in a 5 bedroom house with central heating and a 82" TV to read all this cope on
>Feels good being a wageslave in a flat boring shithole
Bullshit
Currently in your situation and I'm getting out and going back to the tinyhoms
>implying i still have a mortgage
Sucks to suck anon
Look up Yurt kits. Yosemite Pines has some furnished with a head and a kitchen for renting.
www.shelterdesigns net/custom-yurt-kits-for-sale/yurt-cost-calculator/
It's like $10k minimum
Buddy you're not gonna buy a full functional living space with savings from a couple shift at mcdonald. If you actually want to do this you're gonna need a couple tens of thousands at least.
Frick OP
Frick codes.
Frick Black folk.
I'm building an office/short term living space next to a field shop out of one entire 40ft HC container.
Essentially, I will live in it part time during big projects or most weekends as the site is like an hour from my house.
Having a hard time with the space, so I'm currently modeling it in cad but I was wondering if anyone ehse has done it and can shed some insight and after thoughts?
One of my hardest sticking points is where to draw the line between the actual living space and the rest of the container, which will be uninsulated and used for equipment and storage. Stuff like my motorcycles and the solar equipment/batteries. I would insulate all of it but I lose a good bit of width, but I can do the ceiling.
You should bury it and make an underground bunker, or maybe put it underwater.
You should rope up
With your budget a yurt is probably the most realistic. You can get good 400 to 700sqf ones for 10k to 15k. Throw a wood stove and a composting toilet in there and you're good.
A proper tiny home is gonna set you back 50k to 75k.
This threads giving me a weird hypothetical question ....
Lets say you want to keep the square footage down to an absolute minimum, for tax purposes, but you have a modular room setup. Large thick walls that can move around, re-configuring the space to what you need, bedroom, bathroom, kitchen. Lets say want everything and go nuts, so you got a bunch of those modules and all those modules take up 80% of the square footage, leaving you with only 20% of the actual "living space." Do you pay taxes on the 20% living space or on the entire footage of the entire room/house?
>Do you pay taxes on the 20% living space or on the entire footage of the entire room/house?
I don't understand the question. If the modules are insulated and air-conditioned, then they still count as "living space".
I found a camper for only 1k but it's in fricking Nebraska. I don't have a means to pull it except my dad's truck, which he probably won't lend me...
>camper as permanent dwelling
Make sure that you have access to a tow vehicle so that you can move it if the County gets involved.
What do I use then? Brotherberg said a 3D printed home
Sounds like a scam
Have you priced the cost of moving your 200 sq. ft. to NM?
Unfortunately it belongs to mumstein and she will not allow me to use it unless it is in the same mountain development she is living in, in Colorado
Femoidian situation just updated lads. Just got a f*moid's number on Nebraska and may redpill her enough to move to Colorado.
Reckon it's better than the desert eh?
Femoids aren't impressed by tinyhomes
What should I do?
1000sqft is apparently the minimum for obtaining legal residence that can have power and plumbing
What is under 10k that's 1000sqft?
You can probably get a used double wide but it won't be in the finest condition.
Just might
Cheapest that you DIY might be a 12x8 timber frame with dustcrete infill. There's a guy on youtube building with this stuff, it's supposed to work a bit like hempcrete or like a more modern / less maintenance wattle and daub.
Basically it's very coarse sawdust, hydrated lime, and a small amount of portland cement.
For roofing find something from your local used marketplace. Often you can find leftover metal roofing from someone else's building project at half the price of retail. For timberframe + lime infill builds you want a bit more roof overhang than otherwise, since your lime infill will be finished with a layer of plaster which can take water, but you want to minimize water anyway.
Build the thing on skids. It's 8 feet across so it can be transported on any trailer without special licenses.
When timber framing you can build with green wood which is way cheaper from local sawmills.
I can't find a 12x8 for some reason it just shows me 8x12
Is this dwelling up to code?
Take the cavepill
These used double wides are expensive as frick
I'm looking for under 10k. I don't mind spending over that but it would be for something really nice, almost like an actual house.
1/2
Is this up to COOOOOODE?
2/2
Coloradoid seems to be the best off grid option
But what if the foidian approach doesn't work in Nebraskaberg?
I'd need the New Mexican option
Can't you hookup a camper to a septic tank?
Why are dey so expensive in NM?
Depends on local rules so ask LOCALLY and read the statute when you obtain your printed reference copy.
I'd just have a very large or multiple tank blackwater storage(I'm creative so it would probably get its own small trailer) then dig a nice deep hole/trench a distance away to dump it at long intervals. Shitwater is really no problem but paper waste is visible so a composting toilet is an option and makes you appear eco-friendly.
READ and get good. Asking here is not enough because you can and I do study sufficient to find my own accurate answers for my use case. Then one day soon you can be the wise old fart.
>paper waste is visible
This will cause problems as it will dry out and blow across property liens and accumulate at fences, causing neighbor complaints, which are the number one way that hermits are detected and rousted.
Hence my advice to make it go away. No trash buildup should be visible and neatness counts. Be the good neighbor.
It's better not to use paper at all. Set up a gravity bidet or use non-toxic foliage.
Has anyone here done or looked into monolithic domes?
Small domes 10 to 15 feet in diameter can be made without rebar, using a reusable inflatable form and spraying it with concrete.
Just build a kerterre, mate.
Straw, gravel, quicklime. Hardens with time
I have a friend who bought 10 acres with a trailer on it. The trailer is absolutely delipidated, your eyes will burn and the floor sags wherever you walk but its legally "The residence" He then spent about 8k and had a pre fabbed 10' X 30' shed dropped off and he converted half of it into a living space with bedroom and bathroom (Tapped into the existing septic field off the trailer) and the other half he has as a shop for small engine and ATV repair.
Even though it is trashy that's the best way to go about it when you live in counties that have gay building codes which is most of them now. Doesn't matter if the trailer is asbestos covered True Detective Season 1 rape dungeon tier, if the local government legally recognizes it as a 'domicile' you're good to go. Then throw up an ADU or even just a shop and actually live in there. No one's going to come check.
Unfortunately they are now banned in the Colorado development
Fricking hell
>the Colorado development
What does that mean in English?
A land development in the mountains in Colorado that has a well and septic
As opposed to the land in New Mexico with city water and power hookups
You posted "the" implying the singular. Is that a state law or a county law? Specifics matter. If state law is too restrictive, leave. CO is not for poors, it's for successful rich Californians.
Dude I don't know man
My parents are rich and live in the same development
The land is only 30k
I'm selling my house for 100k
Getting a foidian presence while I'm in Nebraska and teaching her not to spend so we can save up and move out there with the minimum price so we can NEET and smoke weed
In that case find out what the minimum shell conforming to local standards is but the better you build it the more it will sell for when you cash out to retire after your parents kick the bucket. Have a good estate planning conversation too.
lol Nevada banned that kind of restrictionism a few years ago because it was interfering with prefabricating trusses off site among other things. Now any sort of prefabricated structure can go onto any property as long as it meets the zoning.
I live 15 minutes from town in East Texas and my acre plot is worth $5k. The neighbors tend to have big plots so I only have one neighbor as close to me because their house is on the very edge of their lot. I have a small creek running through it too but too small for fish unless after a storm. It has crayfish though and they cute.
whats the smallest plot of land you can buy? all I need is something not much larger than a pallet so I could just build upward/downward like a large tower
Look into bushcraft shelters.
Also, frick codes.
>bushcraft shelters
>branches and leaves
Even so, the sheriff can still evict you for lack of proper septic. Shitting on the ground is a crime in all 50 states.
>Shitting on the ground is a crime in all 50 states.
civilization was a mistake.
might as well make drinking water and breathing air illegal. goddamn. frick these massive pieces of shit.
>uh yeah, just umm.. don't poop? ok? if you need to poop, bend the knee and pay money to us. you have to be registered to poop ok? you just do!!! do you have an up-to-date license to poop? you don't??? well i hope you like being a slave laborer in a prison camp bud lmao!!
Shocking, but maybe there is an alternative to just shitting on the ground.
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What's he computer fan for? With a properly designed exterior vent pipe you will get plenty of airflow from just the convection/venturi from the top of the pipe.
These systems are often vented into attics or crawlspaces.
>These systems are often vented into attics or crawlspaces
No they're not shut up you homosexual.
Maybe there's something I don't understand about tiny homes.
Why wouldn't you just get a caravan and park it? That's what people who live in the woods do around my way, then they just cobble together a few external structures like waterproof storage crates, a barbeque oven, a toilet with tin walls.
There is no reason to build these as miniature houses, either build them as caravans or as portables- both of which existed for 50 years already. On farmland it's super common to just rent a demountable/portable for a field to use for tool storage and as a lunchroom
They exist as specialty code beaters for areas which zone out favelas. Because so many anons are too stupid to do their own research and really just post autistic house fantasies they ask here but it's to talk about dreams they'll never execute.
These threads are infested with idiots of various types, for example the code idiots who imagine the laws are the same everywhere, the poop crazies who don't understand pit latrines with an outhouse are legal in many areas because it's impossible to overshit them with one or several people, the larpdreamer financial failures who think they can starve themselves to prosperity without working (despite REAL DIY skills making anyone with them easily employable) etc.
Septic is easy to do discreetly but so are pit latrines with a rustic outhouse which my bro used to pipe his blackwater from his "workshop" since locals do not enter the building to inspect anything, there being no reason to do so.
Overthinking vs. studying specific situations and ignoring those not relevant is very hard for autspergtards.
Come home white man
Those are not allowed on either property development
They are specifically banned
That's a great long term benefit as an owner/investor.
Why in the frick do tiny homes threads quickly degenerate into posting about human waste? Can't we focus on the finer things like high efficiency wood stoves and comfy lofts?
peepee and caca are fundamental to the human condition, inseparable and ever-relevant
But it doesn't bother me one bit to shit in a bucket and pour it out at the lot line. There, now what is the best way to insulate a loft space only 18" high? Fiberglass seems too itchy.
you don't realize it yet, but you are a cacaful man, full of caca on the inside
caca corrupts those that underestimate it
your soul is stained by the caca more than the vessel you carry it in
marked, tainted, branded by caca
pitiful wretch, you bear the mark of caca
Lofts and wood stoves are not of primary importance to tiny houses so start your own stupid thread for people too stupid to figure out stoves and lofts. That's moron-tier attainable and you will never build anything anyway, wagie in da cagie.
>Lofts and wood stoves
>moron-tier attainable
They are definitely more complicated than dumping out a 5-gallon bucket of waste.
If I ever catch one of you animals pouring out your slop bucket at the fence line again, you're gonna have a bad time. Worse than when my grandpa caught two n*s in the chicken house. Keep away from your neighbors. Build your shed as far from others as possible and pour out your shit buckets close by and I won't bother you unless garbage starts blowing across the fence line. Toilet paper will dry out and blow along so use it sparingly. Also, shit inside your shed. No one wants to see another human being living like an animal, that's why we left the city in the first place.
>shit inside your shed. No one wants to see another human being living like an animal, that's why we left the city in the first place.
If you are "homesteading" on a property where you can see your neighbors from your dwelling you're not PrepHole you're just homeless.
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>1 acre
You can easily see across an acre unless there is heavy brush.
There's no one around those lots and there are heavy trees/brush on both lots
Are you talking yourself into being a stealthy bucket dumper?
I've done it before on my mom's land but I wasn't supposed to be living there at all they didn't bother me because they knew my mom would build a cabin.
Might be different this time