-Apparently can be built extremely cheaply, just need some trees you can cut down for lumber, cinderblocks, and maybe plastic tarp as a water barrier
-Stays warmer in winter and cooler in summer since it's surrounded by earth
-Hidden beneath the earth if you wish, much harder to spot
-any small woodburning stove pipe out could probably be concealed in a dead tree trunk or similar and used at night when its too dark to see the smoke
-how much space does one man really need
Why not Minecraft it up IRL? Why not just raise the black, say "frick the building permits, frick the building codes, frick the expense of a house or it's high profile risk in SHTF" buy some cheap remote land where you won't get caught and burrow into the earth rather than staying on the overpriced apartment rent hamster wheel forever?
Am I missing something here? seems super easy to do for anyone who knows how to do even basic axework. What's the catch?
Even if you decide you want a more traditional family home later. Think of all that money saved just building an inexpensive hidden dugout, and then you have this cool space where you can get away from it all.
Why haven't more single dudes scraping by, or worried about the state of the world taken the dugout pill Anons?
Why live out of a car, in a shitty roach infested apartment that comes with all the problems of lower cost housing, or god forbid become homeless when you could have a cozy hobbit hole in the ground with a nice hot stove and surrounded by tranquility?
Even hunting land that isn't technically buildable could have this on it in secret. Who's gonna know?
they get so full of spiders
If you find a bit of a clearing in the woods (minimal clearing is enough), away from big dedicious trees with strong roots, you could dig a decent size dugout with in a short time. Maybe make it 50cm above ground and 1.50 below ground, that way you have broad walls against rain. (use the ground you dugout to make wide strong dirt walls) Sloped roof with plastic ground sheet and logs all the way to the ground, allowing rainwater to pass away.
dig in a bit of a hill with downward facing entrance.
Shallow drainage ditches away from the hole.
I wonder what would be a cheap easily available floor and walls for inside the dugout. Planks? Clay? Concrete is too complicated and expensive for hidden forest dugout. I'd like to know good inner walls.
>I wonder what would be a cheap easily available floor and walls for inside the dugout. Planks? Clay?
Split and charred logs could work. Charring to protect from mold, rot and bugs.
The correct way to do this is.
>Orientation selection
face south with ample glazing for light and heat penetration. Summer sun mitigated with deciduous trees/seasonal foliage cover
>Structure
Concrete structure with rear buttresses to hold the weight of the earth on the structure. Full waterproofing ceiling to floor
>Water migration under and around
Full French drain/weeping tile to keep the water moving under and out of the property
>Radon mitigation
Sealed slab with getting to release gas into the home, very important in the north east or if you have granite as a main substrate under the home.
>Bonuses
water collection via cisterns buried under the frost line. Mass stove for heat. Geo piping for cool air into the home, ceiling vents for flow.
>Other considerations
Building permits if you want to live there forever
>No saddamn Hussain
2/10
Where does your poop go? Where do you park the car? How do you leave if there's a fire or something like a tree or a snow blocks your front door? How do you get electricity for your computer and phone?
>Where does your poop go?
innawoods
>Where do you park the car?
innawoods
>How do you leave if there's a fire or something like a tree or a snow blocks your front door?
Out the back door
>How do you get electricity for your computer and phone?
You don't need either of those
Small composting toilet or an outhouse that’s discreet. Park the car on the property a distance away and hike in, maybe camouflage it under a tarp or some netting amongst the trees. Dig a secondary escape tunnel and have a fire extinguisher just in case. Rig up a couple solar panels for light electricity use.
Hellyeah. I wanma dig something like this out. Or just a straight tunnel
Currently living in a chevy express van and love how when laying on my bunk it feels like a cave
I wonder whats the cheapest and easiest ways to make cozy walls and ceiling etc . Maybe clay eh??
Also considering the purchase of a massive culvert pipe, the kind you see underneath roads to funnel water through that are easily big enough to stand in...
I'm a good welder, so wouldn't be that difficult to seal the ends of it.
I think the real trick is probably compacting soil around it properly and anchoring it down so that it won't "float" up out of the ground like a septic system if heavy rain floods the soil.
Would also potentially need a coating on the outside to prevent corrosion, but am at a loss as to what coating to use. Have seen them sealing inside concrete, but that's a bunch more expense and work.
Tar works fine and it's cheap.
my idea for doing this cheaply without tons of tools and equipment
>dig big trench
>buy single-trip shipping container
>spray coat it with phosphatic rust neutralizer
>epoxy seal it
>powdercoat it
>wax it
>have delivery crane place container into trench
seems a lot cheaper and faster ... and stronger
if you need the roof reinforced just put 2 steel poles or jack posts in
obviously use your brain, don't bury it deep, use appropriate sloped trench, backfill with something light and porous, have 2 entrances/exits, don't slack on dehumidifying, beware of carbon monoxide, etc. etc.
why haven't I done this? suitable land is too expensive for what it is (worthless, any jurisdiction that would let something so non-legal slide should be giving land away)
and you will need to figure out the other big factors of off-grid living
>utility laws
>water laws
>sewage laws
police and even feds will come after you for the last item in that list
there aren't any places left in the US that are lax on all 3, or if they are, you don't want to live there because they're black or latino no-go zones
powdercoat
in wet soil it doesnt matter what you do, it is going to rust, maybe use a layer of aluminum or plastic cladding? still gonna rust eventually
in dry soil it should be good for 100 years, more likely it would rust inside from trapped moisture if you don't dehumidify it religiously
>sewage laws
>police and even feds will come after you
Isn't it a damn shame that some folks will dump raw sewage into the creek?
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Mike Oehler, find the torrent of his dvd and books. Libgen has the $50 underground housing book.
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