>DJI Agras T30 agricultural drone in Ukrainian service, armed with a PKM 7.62x54mmR machine gun and a Bullspike-AT grenade launcher.
This will massacre so many ziggers
>DJI Agras T30 agricultural drone in Ukrainian service, armed with a PKM 7.62x54mmR machine gun and a Bullspike-AT grenade launcher.
They should just focus on dropping boom boom stuff. Is working fine
Bullets fill a different niche, a mobik under fire from a drone will probably assume they're being shot at by enemy infantry at first. Not to mention, if these things are accurate enough, a single Drone can kill literally 50+ enemy soldiers in a single sortie instead of dropping a single bomb and returning to base, 3-tap a zigger, move to next target, repeat until out of ammo or battery. Also much safer to use to support allied infantry, can shoot into windows, etc
The downside of course that one of these big bois is much more expensive and a bigger loss if it gets shot down or crashes, they definitely won't be replacing cheap bombers.
The drones aren't limited to a single bomb. If that drone can lift a pkm and bullspike it can comfortably hoist up 6 60mm mortar rounds which would be very deadly. I'm sure they could rig something to allow for a sequential drop
The pkm wouldn't be as effective as you think as the belt is limited and the recoil would throw the drone off after the first shot.
Honestly it'd be a waste to use mortar rounds with that thing. A really good thermal payload and a NLAW (12 kg for the NLAW so all up maybe 20 kg) would be way more useful. Stand off and spot targets and when one gets within a kilometer frick its day up.
That puts you basically on par with tanks and IFVs as far as infantry is concerned. No need for them to ever see you or get close enough to shoot at you, you can call in fires or engage them beyond their effective range.
In mildly poor visibility with scattered to broken cloud around 500ft AGL, that would be fricking terrifying
>travel below treetops through clearings
>pop up just behind a treeline
>spot target with your thermals/laser rangefinder
>call in fire mission
>duck behind treeline and go away
>enemy has like 3 seconds to shoot you, maybe less, since the steps are literally just "get grid reference and photo of target" and everything gets done by datalink, there is no person in the drone to kill before he can call a fire mission in
>if you pop up within 300 meters of a tank just turret toss it and frick off
These types of drones are the future anon. Cheap supplements to attack helicopters for when you don't need their sustained loiter time and payload, just the recon element. Sure an Apache can kill an entire tank company in 45 seconds but that shit costs money, this doesn't.
Considering a single pylon on an Apache isn't going to get loaded for less money than the Agras absolutely
Use gun to pin down so grenade drones have it easier
>This will massacre so many ziggers
What happened this time? why so many butthurt troll thread in this board?
another important piece of russian infrastructure blew up so the russoids are out in full force.
usually we see the opposite something
>xa xa xa, the Kettle is closed.
>Bahkmut is ours.
>Moskaw is back!
>etc etc
> The standard Bullspike-AT projectile features a shaped-charge warhead that offers a penetration capability of 400 mm
>400mm against RHA on a drone
>up to 350m range
ohoho yes
>no catbox or webm or ....
My balls are achingly blue.
i seriously doubt the effectiveness, even if you can properly stabilize it and make it target russhits on the ground, it's way too big a target at this point, the thing that makes those smaller drones so scary is how difficult they are to shoot down, this doesn't seem like nearly as big of a challenge, and it's probably just as vulnerable to EW as the smaller more expendable drones.
>7.62mm machine gun and a 400mm RHA recoilless rifle
>doesn't seem like nearly as big of a challenge
yeah have fun spotting this thing in between some trees 300 meters away right before it sends your BMP turret to orbit
was about to say this
. this thing will merk you from 300m away. good luck shooting it while it's moving in the air from that far
It's a single shot unguided rocket that looks to be held on with zip ties. I have serious doubts about it hitting anything from 300 meters away.
You can clearly see it's mounted to the legs you disingenuous c**t.
>thing that makes those smaller drones so scary is how difficult they are to shoot down,
this, plus they're so cheap that it isn't worth it
That's not how this works. Look up how the US Army and NATO classify drones. This thing, having a ~150 lb MGTOW and a maximum altitude of 14,000 feet, would make it a Group 2 or Group 3 drone. Pic related is an example of a Group 3 drone, it has about the same weight too.
These things are not your squad/platoon level recon drones. They are not your FPVs with grenades strapped to them. These things are probably battalion level and up, they are expensive, and they are used carefully. Get your mind out of the gutter and stop thinking in terms of "muh cheapness!" like a Russian.
>stop thinking in terms of "muh cheapness!" like a Russian
cheapness is the main point of drone warfare
and US sucks at drone warfare despite being a leading force for 30 years exactly because they are pathologically avert to making cheap things
the most popular combat drone in the world today is a cheap chink toy only because US in decades of its "drone dominance" failed to provide anything even remotely cost-effective for squad use.
it's "easy" to shoot a squishy bag of meat holding a rocket launcher too, and yet russian armor is still getting constantly raped by those too. and regardless of efficiency, the guy running around the battlefield with a bigass tube is everyone's first target. if a drone operator fricks up, he can learn from his mistakes and send another drone out, but if an anti-tank crew fricks up, you probably need a new anti-tank crew
It kind of makes sense when you remember that attack helicopters are an endangered species in Ukraine. It's like a cut-down version that might be small enough to dodge enemy air defenses, and if it isn't then at least they don't lose the pilot.
i think you have the confusion. drone is for farming. pkm = seed gun. atgm = fertilizer bomb
yes, thermal camera is for recognizing hot spots that need watering. ukraine is a peaceful country.
/unjerk
in the DJI ecosystem, the big thing to watch currently is probably the new FlyCart.
>Delivery to remote locations has always been difficult, inefficient, and perilous. Today, we bring you a brand new possibility.
yeh
It's not that concept itself is bad, but my problem with it is that it is a civilian conversion. That means that any related control soft has to be Black personrigged, it doesn't have secured comms by default which also have to Black personrigged, any kind of stabilization is a wet dream and finally it clearly isn't armored enough for something that has to get in contact with armed folk.
If Russia put this thing together just IMAGINE the howling laughter of /k/.
The thing is the Ukrainian one probably works. Also stop seeing this as a popularity contest or some sports club rivalry, people make fun of you because you're fricking delusional.
Almost as there are different expectations between the second poorest country in europe and the country with the second strongest military in the world.
Agree. This thing is made by boomers who don’t understand why the PG-7 drones are deadly. They should be going all in on software to allow FPVs to have contrast seekers and kill vehicles from outside jammer range.
It's all about expectations, anon.
Russia was claiming to be the 2nd most powerful military in the world and a peer to the USA. Ukraine on the other hand is the poorest country in Europe.
it's not that people have expectations of russia. it's that people have realized russia's modus operandi is to bald faced lie about their capabilities. while ukraine is quickly displacing russia for it's old reputation for being scrappy and innovative.
Laughing in my solitude at the thought of somebody making their babushka sew that robo catsuit, then they put it on, and brought it all into a trade fair. 0 points for tech, 9/10 points for chutzpah.
Guys our dystopian neonoir Gothic-industrial future is here and I am so ready for this.
We'll see b***hes coming out of this war with Star Wars replacement hands arms and legs and pet droids, there is no doubt
>AG drone with a machine gun and a rocket launcher that is triggered by some zip ties
*gets obliterated by some barely literate vatnik gamer flying a $50 chinese quadcopter with a $2 breaching charge duct taped to it which he launched from his shit filled foxhole covered by leaves*
Multirotor vs multirotor combat will be fun War has changed
>hurr durr expensive thing bad because it can be killed by cheap thing
A rifle fired from a rusty mosin will kill just as well if it hits right as one from a gucci AR, doesn’t mean we should hand every soldier a rusty mosin.
This drone, if used right, can do things those cheaper drones can’t do as well.
There are shitloads more FLIR drone videos coming out now which presumably are filmed at night. When it’s already almost impossible to hit the drone because they can’t see it you’d be way better off carrying a firearm on it than trying to drop vogs on them. As long as it’s zeroed they could take out a while unit
I too remember when Ukraine claimed to be the second army in the world and a near peer to NATO
I think a drone with one of these bad bois modified to have a big ass magazine and a recoil absorption system would be pretty effective.
I hope they have the back blast figured out, it'll be dumb if it blows off its own props firing the RPG on the first outing
the tube is parallel with the rotors, it'll be fine
I'm wondering how well one of these will handle the recoil forces of a PKM. It obviously will be able to stay airborne but if shots are going all over the place it won't be terrible useful.
yeah but when are we going to start seeing dedicated fighter drone dog fights?
Looks like you could get 100 kamikaze FPV drones for the price of one of those.
>RC attack helicopter
Holy frick YES I have been talking about this for over a year at this point. Somebody PLEASE give them a MK47 to strap to one so we can watch them rain 20 grenades on trenches with airbursts set to face-level.
Gentlemen, we have now entered the Metal Gear Timeline.
That game was scarily prescient in a number of ways.
>The ruse cruise was real
>the phantom pain is what we feel once we notice the transition
>ground zeroes was the point at which it began to happen
>MGSV part 2 is actually WW3
KOJIMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
I remember back then thinking that those things were sci-fi weapons
Oh boy. The Future was even worse.
Uhmmm, how viable would it be to put an NLAW on this thing?
Seems like a bit of a waste. If the drone can fly within a few hundred meters to fire that, it might as well just fly right above the tank and drop a bunch of RPG warheads or something.
Except the NLAW has a better warhead than an RPG, a guidance system and doesnt seem to get that much use recently
NLAW needs to track the target (via traverse and elevation) for around 3 seconds
And wouldnt you be able to do this via the drone?