This thing is going to absolutely shrek the Russians. They have no counter at night. It's like HIMARS again.

This thing is going to absolutely shrek the Russians.

They have no counter at night. It's like HIMARS again.

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When did we repaint them all green again? I forgot. That timing was a good bit of luck, I guess.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >When did we repaint them all green again? I forgot. That timing was a good bit of luck, I guess.

      LMAO. This war has been planned for a while, there was no luck involved chief.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >US planned for Russia to instigate a retarded war and get raped
        Damn, I cant believe we've actually taken control of Russia like that, actually based

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The CIA and British intelligence knew this war was coming with greater than 90% confidence but I don't think even the most optimistic glownigs realized just how rotted-out the Russian military had become. Maybe it's just a cultural disconnect, in the US if you lie and say "I have 20 functional F-16s," eventually someone checks that number.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >in the US if you lie and say "I have 20 functional F-16s," eventually someone checks that number.

            That's reviewed daily more than once. MC rates have been instantly visible since forever. They're briefed at every morning and afternoon maintenance meeting and visible all the way up the chain. (So is vehicle status, ground support equipment status and test equipment availability.)

            Woe betide anyone caught lying which there is no incentive to do anyway. Broke jets are completely visible throughout maintenance, Ops and more as parts orders come from global stocks if there are none on hand. FedEx and DHL make the world turn.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I don't know that they planned it, but it's kinda fishy how we ran away from Afghanistan not even 6 months before the invasion.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Leaving Afghanistan makes no difference to it. We left our nice base for blatting terrorists that costed very little to maintain for nothing at all. Just to appease domestic whining.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I think it's the opposite, vatniks got cocky because the US left Afghanistan. And to be fair the logic is pretty sound, they invade a country with a professional army and win in 2 days while the US couldn't beat goat fuckers in 20 years, it would have made them look threatening if they didn't get blown the fuck out.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Do you seriously believe the US didn’t know this was coming? How fucking stupid are you? Why even have the CIA if they can’t tell you fucking Russia is about to invade a country?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's been clear for a while now that the US is out of the sandtrap and has no interest in going back into it.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My bad. Here's full HD for PrepHoleoomers and non-ants.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Does the us still use them?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes. It's our main IFV.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        We use something called a "Stryker" now.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No. They were shitcanned for being worthless in Iraq and Afghanistan (turns out, a lightly armored vehicle forced to drive slowly in a convoy along IED-ridden roads doesn't live very long). It was replaced by the Stryker (which we also basically stopped using, for similar reasons).

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          damn dude that's crazy, can you name the units that got rid of them

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Literally every vet who fought in OIF will tell you that Bradleys stopped being used en masse around 2008. Command finally realized that they just weren't suited to the mission, and were replaced with more trucks and mine-resistant transports.

            >UM, BUT THEY STILL USED THEM IN SPECIFIC OPERATIONS

            Okay. But the fact is that the very majority of US military work in the past twenty years has been patrol work in an insurgency. Which the Bradley is fucking asscheeks for.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              cool, can you tell me the units? i want to check dvids for pictures of them using bradleys again now that we're not engaged in operation retard moses.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                2-12 Cav took our bradleys in 10-11 but they stayed on the FOB the whole year

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Army switches over to policing operation with 0 armor offenses
              >Needs fast trucks to drive places
              >This means Bradleys can't fight armor
              A weird and retarded thought

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >no they were all shitcanned
              >who got rid of them?
              >LITERALLY EVERBODY KNOWS THE ANSWER TO THAT gay NOW TAKE THIS STRAWMAN AND LEAVE ME ALONE
              I honestly don't understand how people like you function without suffocating under the weight of shame for being who you are

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It sounds like you're just gay and retarded to be honest. Anybody who knows shit about the Iraq or Afghan conflict will remember the Army fielding Bradleys and then stopping because they were IED bait.

                t. first post in the thread

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's weird how the only questions you've been able to answer are the ones nobody's asked. You're clearly still in the thread so why are you hiding?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                does the US still use the Bradley?
                >no we got rid of them
                who did?
                >they weren't good for the mission. we only use them depending on the mission, everybody knows that
                OK so we still use them
                >NO we only use them for the right missions everybody knows that

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Don't listen to the retards going on about the Stryker, y es it is still used. It literally got an upgrade package in 2018 and the first M2A4 models were fielded in April 2022. You're not going to 'stop using them' because of that. Now I am sure the retards will read this and go
        >um actually that's a different Bradley so we technically don't use the one OP blahblahblah
        That's just them being dumb to try and wiggle out of them being wrong. Stryker's are also used.

        The US is working on the OMFV to replace the M2 but that is a fair way off. The AMPV which is replacing the M113's as the US APC is literally just a Bradley without the turret.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          yet when looking at the military age population of America you are rapidly running out of people who can fit in those vehicles or who wouldn't mentally break under military service. The American empire is fucked if it can't knock off the feminism and gayry.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            concern noted, russia will conquer america in two weeks i suppose

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              America will end like the Roman Empire in a bonfire of its own vanity after stupidly opening the gates to serve business interest from letting the barbarians inside for a source of cheap labor to the public promotion of degeneracy for profit.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                in two weeks

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                A problem that would not happen if white people would simply have sex.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                lol gnomish feminism won't let that happen if by sex you mean have children and not just coom like some degenerate pleasure seeker.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                this. children are extinct. pleasure bad -- i consume only water and bark.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You might want to get off the internet for three days.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                that's what i was thinking

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Cope

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              refute any of that statement dipshit. even the department of defense agrees with him minus the last part but he's right about that too

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >still thinking about the past
            Future wars will be won with drones and AI. The trannies and women will be in some back office signing off on the kill orders on oppressors of trannies, gays and women. Imagine how fucking ruthless they will be to them. Everyone laughs at America because we always are first, and they all stop laughing when they realize they just became another 20 years behind the curve.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Quality of soldiers is an entirely different topic than quality of equipment. Why did you shift the topic to soldiers and off of equipment and vehicles?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >feminism and gayry
            We've had those during our strongest years.
            It's obesity, retardation and communist subversion that are the actual problems.
            And since you refuse to acknowledge that, I can only file you under all three.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Of course (this is a weapons board, how would anyone not know that?).

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Is that the commanders head in that bubble on top of the turret?ci thought it was optics but when I zoomed in I saw a face

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        if you mean what I think you mean, that's an open hatch. you can see the handle in the top left

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >1-63
      Oh hey, it's my old unit.
      Fun fact, the driver of the commander's bradley in the infantry company used to drive buck naked and kept a flask of liquor on his person during gunnery.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Fun fact, the driver of the commander's bradley in the infantry company used to drive buck naked and kept a flask of liquor on his person during gunnery.

        How did he do that if he was naked? You arent saying that he, uh, used his back pocket? The internal one?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      god that thing is ugly as fuck

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Unlike the HIMARS, I'm sure some will be visibly lost and there will be 20 threads all at once about a single lost Bradley. That said, I'm really excited to see how the Ukies will use them. Anybody know which variant is being sent?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >thermals at night
      >long range
      How will you lose Bradleys?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        How did Americans lost Bradley's?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          drunk air force pilots

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          A-10s thinking they were BMPs

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            ORANGE ROCKETS BRO

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              KEK
              To be fair or that pilot he has asked half a dozen times if friendly forces were anywhere in the area, and only had his eyes + binoculars to for finding and then identifying potential targets while flying in circles at 10'000 feet

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The fact they had A-10s without TGPs shows how fucked it was, expecting anything to do CAS without a TGP is asking for trouble.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                even with the pod it still isn't ideal

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                True but it's a shitload better than binoculars and you aren't going to think a Scimitar is a BTR.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Mostly from friendly fire

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          As others have pointed out, friendly fire. But on occasion an Iraqi tank still got a shot off, and a bradley will not survive a 125mm round.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >A total of 20 Bradleys were lost—three by enemy fire and 17 due to friendly fire incidents. Another 12 were damaged. The gunner of one Bradley was killed when his vehicle was hit by Iraqi fire, possibly from an Iraqi BMP-1, during the Battle of 73 Easting.
          IIRC at least one was lost to an RPG, and there was a really horrifying friendly fire situation where a bunch of M1's merked like six bradleys in a row before they realized what was going on

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >blew up 6 Bradleys before they realised

            Americans need constant supervision

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        By being in terrain that doesn't neccesarily enable long range lines of fire? It's not a desert. Also it's not 1990 anymore, Russians have optics now and many means to destroy these vehicles, namely artillery which will be the main killer. Bradleys aren't unstoppable, they will fill the same role as BMPs already do but be far more survivable.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This guy thinks they're fighting in mountains lol

          How did Americans lost Bradley's?

          IEDs, friendly fire, crewed by Saudis

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >they will fill the same role as BMPs already do but be far more survivable.
          Holy shit, is this the new cope? BMPs just as gud (TM).
          M2s will be lighting fuckers up across the vast fields of Ukraine. They are not going to bum rush with these, due to the optic and FCS superiority. Russians don't have night optics for their ATGMs. Most of their modern IFVs and Tanks are destroyed or captured. How the hell are they going to destroy Bradleys outside of lucky mine and arty strikes?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >How the hell are they going to destroy Bradleys outside of lucky mine and arty strikes?
            by loosing the rest of the russian air force and helicopters

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >russian air force and helicopters
              Bro I think if you guys flew an SU-34 one more time you might be down to zero.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >loosing

              ESLmud detected. If Russia could sustain high sortie rates it would have flown them earlier during the invasion to tip the balance.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >It's not a desert.
          It is, however, the Eurasian Steppe.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Russians have optics now
          bro PLEASE

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          A Cave Scout squadron took on an entire brigade of T-72s in Desert Storm and won. Everyone was all thinking it was because the Iraqis weren't using depleted uranium rounds and bad training but the tanks were actually just shit.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Russians have optics now and many means to destroy these vehicles,
          Yea Russians have soldiers, body armor, and small arms too, so im sure they have what it takes to wipe out the Bradleys

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Russians have optics now

          We did think that before the war, then they started to show up with bad thermals or just no thermals on various modern BVMs, B3s, etc..

          Sure the Brad can get destroyed by armor and will be, but much like 91 the ratio is likely to be pretty skewed.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This has never been the case. Every modernised tank variant has had thermals. SOSNA-U sight is quite different from the old night sight in terms of it's appearance.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Forget where you parked it heh

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You will find that the Bradley's thermals out-range those found on Russian tanks.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Mines
        >Friendly fire
        >Mechanical failure, requiring scuttling
        >Guy with a MANPAD
        >Lucky shot from a tank you didn't know was there

        I don't think Russian air assets will play a significant role. They're low on pilots AND airframes and playing those cards carefully these days.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >MANPADS
          >Against a Bradley

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >How will you lose Bradleys?
        Bradley's were weighed down with so much weaponry that enemies thought they were tanks and used tank-level weaponry on them...which was overkill, because they were only lightly armored (with, apparently, aluminum armor to make them light enough to be troop carriers).

        At least that what happened with the earliest iterations. Hopefully newer versions have better armor or a lower profile. We'll see.
        I don't think this is a game-changer like HIMARs or Javelin. Just a replacement for the IFV's the Yooks have already lost.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Bradley's were weighed down with so much weaponry that enemies thought they were tanks and used tank-level weaponry on them...which was overkill
          stop

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They’re getting x50 M2A2 ODS allegedly, and if though those are 30 years out of date, they still have TOW launchers and thermals which will outclass anything Poccia can bring to the table.

      I look forward to seeing many T-62/72/80/90s getting mulched

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They're getting 500 TOW so 10 per Bradley and 250k 20mm ammunition. Russia has also already lost so much tanks, I think the 20mm ammo will end up being pretty important.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          25mm*

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It honestly feels like the perfect threat environment for Bradleys
          >hordes of russhits without AT weapons or armour support so the thin armour doesn’t matter so much
          >what few armoured assets the vatmorons have seem to be spread out and dug in so they’re fodder for TOW missiles
          >use the 25mm to mow down mobik hordes and suppress positions

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          ESL detected. Post guns

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If TOW was adequate why was the Javelin shipped in such larger quantities before?

        Because the Soviets and Russians countered TOW long ago.
        Composite armour, ERA, and active systems.

        TOW is a joke when it comes to frontally hitting modern tanks.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Agreed, a few will be killed by AT / ATGMs / tanks and we will get constant threads for a week about ow shit they are.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I remember the weekly Dingo threads when Ukrainians shared a photo of one getting destroyed. I'm sure for Bradleys we'll get several threads per day - it will be like Snake Island or the Tank Video all over again.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Mostly 2As with a few 3s.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      PrepHole already coping with the new "Gamechanger" wunderwaffe. Kek

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Calling everything "wunderwaffe" even mockingly really isn't the own you guys seem to think it is.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >PrepHole

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You're brown and gay.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Functioning vehicles are a wunderwaffe to Russians

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        they basically fixated and hype up western gibs because in their calculation aid is the only thing that can win the war.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >inb4 you claim we said it was invincible when it gets killed
        It's going to die, we all know this. It's also going to kill more than 1 IFV before it does making it worth while.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why every NATO weapon from the 80s turns out to be cosmic magic for rushites.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because America spent billions of dollars every year for decades making cosmic magic specifically for this purpose.

      Sure a lot of it was waste and MIC grift, but you spend that much money on weapons, and you're bound to get some wonderful equipment out of it.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Omgggg 50 IFVs from the 80's, game over vatmorons.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This but unironically

      By being in terrain that doesn't neccesarily enable long range lines of fire? It's not a desert. Also it's not 1990 anymore, Russians have optics now and many means to destroy these vehicles, namely artillery which will be the main killer. Bradleys aren't unstoppable, they will fill the same role as BMPs already do but be far more survivable.

      >Also it's not 1990 anymore, Russians have
      doubt any sentence that begins like this

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Actually this. So far the Russians have made themselves look inept at best. To their merit, they are going against a nation backed by some of the most powerful countries on the planet, so yes they could literally get steamrolled by Bradleys at this point.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      For vatmorons and chinkoids, 80s tech is still overkill. They still have no counter or equivalent to stealth bombers from the 80s.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Too bad they are gonna supply 50 of those IFVs and not a couple of stealth bombers

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Are we are going to see units with cold war US vehicles mixed with Soviet vehicles like in 1980s speculative fiction RPGs?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Dude in the back looks like Tank Girl's methhead ex-boyfriend.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      When Russia falls I'm gonna carve me a nice piece of borderlands and declare myself Baron Czarny.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I thought nothing except artillery matters now.

    Is there an animation or something that shows what a full day of the war looks like?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I thought nothing except artillery matters now.
      >Is there an animation or something that shows what a full day of the war looks like?
      it doesnt, this is some month 11 COPE for garbage-tier ukrainian morale.

      ukrops are are absolutely psychologically buck-broken, so even the most goofy, meaningless propaganda victory can be had by your 123rd of re-supply by the US
      ukraine is pathetic, running on fumes and some ass-blasted amalgamation of nato weapons from 3 dozen different states.
      if anything the ukraine is a social experiment prosecuted by the west, to watch what happens to a brainwashed-westoid nations collapse in real time

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >this is some month 11 COPE
        >month 11
        >cope
        choose one

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >ass-blasted amalgamation of nato weapons from 3 dozen different states
        oh yeah, NATO doesn't follow standardization when it comes to munitions or anything kek

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >oh yeah, NATO doesn't follow standardization when it comes to munitions or anything kek
          must be why ukraine has such a diverse goofball field of weapons. oh wait. is has exactly that

          diversity is ukraines strength.
          im sure the logistics for parts&repairs of every single mechanized equipment known to man is a piece of cake for a nation that hasnt had a power-grid since oct 10th
          >kek that bridge selfie was worth it!

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            POV: You received a sack of rotten potatoes because your father died for an oligarch in Bakhmut (his corpse is posted all over PrepHole & being laughed at)

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >diverse goofball field of weapons
            that all fire the same ammo

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Mong. Do you even know what NATO is? Yeah maybe there are tons of designs and different equipment, but all the guns use the same ammo, and the vehicles use the same fuel. It's literally the point of NATO you vatnig retard

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            slavic women are so fucking ugly.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        mental illness

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm almost certain "indiana" has an extra a.

          >melodramatic talking style.
          >Adds lots of Awkward typing quirks™ TO. HI$. TYPING.
          >Likes to reference popular memes in a really stilted way ("LE SCARY FACE" "COPE AND SEETH").
          >Repeats the same talking point over and over
          >poor reading comprehension.
          >obsessed with shit and rape
          >Complains about "NAFO racial purity"

          Blatant Pajeet.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >AHAHAH YOU AREN'T WINNING FAST ENOUGH! OINKRANIANS BTFO

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >psychologically buck-broken

        LMAO. Outside your vatmoron delusions, ukrainian morale is sky-high and bloodthirsty as fuck. All of Ukraine is crying otu for only one thing: To. Kill. The. Hated. Russian. Invader.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >it doesnt, this is some month 11 COPE
        In 3 day military operation. Sure…

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nothing except air matters. Artillery is king poor countries.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Nothing except air matters. Artillery is king poor countries.
        Artillery is for fighting off literal land invasions.

        AIR is for taking out powergrids and attacking civilian national assets. this is the only way you win a war of 'conquest', which, this is.
        >stated goal ukraine: end the Putler regime, kick Russia out of Crimea, then balkanize and demilitarize Russian Feeration
        >stated goal Russia: officially recognize all annexxed territories, de-militarize, de-industrialize, balkanize, and de-populate ukraine if necessary
        its really that easy

        Russia uses artillery because another nation attempted to invade and 're-capture' rightful Russian clay.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >leaves out de-nazification

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >stated goal ukraine: end the Putler regime, kick Russia out of Crimea, then balkanize and demilitarize Russian Feeration
          where has any Ukraine official stated that anything but liberating Crimea is the goal?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >russia makes absurd war goals
            >they have no chance of achieving them
            >a-actually it was ukraine!

            never anything besides projection, dude.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He's been posting it for weeks if not months. Make the narrative that Ukraine's goal is the destruction of Russia therefore makes it seem like Ukraine is being unreasonable and therefore should not be supported. Also look at the spelling.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              well he's only warming me up to the idea

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >AIR is for taking out powergrids and attacking civilian national assets.

          Amateur take. Someone managed ignore Desert Storm.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >a fucking IFV
    lol

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >a fucking rocket launcher defeats Blyatzkrieg
      >a fucking dump truck with a few rockets on back defeats Raised Eyebrows
      >a fucking IFV snipes mobiks from a far at night without counters

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All I know about the Bradley is from that movie Pentagon Wars. Is this really that useful or did they just exaggerate how bad it was?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I've played thousands of hours of PR. It's a fucking beast at range. Don't drive into cities with it, you're good.
      >carries enough ammo for WW3
      >TOWs kill any tanks western or eastern
      >sick thermal optics + FCS that's accurate even driving at 40mph
      >25mm HE to pop mobiks in the open or trenches
      >25mm to pew pew light to med vehicles or even MBTs from the back or side

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >everything in videos games is the same way as real life
        For fucks sake some people really are subhuman useless eaters.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you can do that with any modernish IFV

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's a movie (poor factually acuraccy) based on a book by a reformer. So it's moron tier bullshit.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        again, note I'm not defending the Bradley, just saying that the movie was complete horseshit. A good meme for US MIL BAD and an entertaining story, but horseshit nonetheless.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Thye exaggerated heavily. The movie was made at the behest of a group of people called the "reformers" who are basically all about the worst takes on military procurement and all their ideas are garbage. If you know Pierre Sprey, Blacktail Defense, Mike Sparks, these kinds of people make up the reformers.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's actually really good.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes and no. The movie and book it was based on by colonel James Burton has come in for a lot of deserved flak because he is representative of the “Reformers” group. They’re basically a bunch of boomers from the Cold War who thought that the procurement process at the pentagon overly favoured high-tech solutions and that in a real war they’d need “rugged, low-tech” solutions like Russia. It’s full of drama-queens and habitual liars like the late Pierre Sprey, an advisor at the pentagon who greatly exaggerated his role in the development of the F-16 and F-15 in the 70s. He used to do pieces for Russia today putting out a lot of disingenuous points to criticise the F-35 because it allegedly isn’t a good dogfighter (protip; it is actually relatively agile) and somehow he imagined that it’s stealth/radar/sensors/BVR capabilities wouldn’t matter in combat against flankers. There’s some videos on YT about what’s wrong with the pentagon wars - this one is a pretty concise summary: https://youtu.be/gmuVYVREGgE
      >inb4 war thunder and furry.
      Yes, he is a fag, but the points he makes about where the movie twists the truth are generally correct and it’s quite well researched.

      Even so, the Bradley wasn’t perfect. The movie was correct that it’s development cycle was quite protracted, leaving the US without a real IVF until the 80s. There are some persistent issues like the electrical architecture not keeping pace with upgrades to the vehicle that use up energy (especially optics/thermals, FCS, digital display and communications). IIRC, the A2 model does not have an auxiliary power unit, so crews can only use the these systems while the engine is turned off for a limited time. Still much better than the BMP-1/2s the Ukies have, which mostly have none of these things to begin with.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Someone else as well talking about it.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >too fucking stupid to realize that all enemy IFVs are also equipped with anti armor missiles
          I mean for fucks sake the BMP-2s even had ATGMs. You fucking idiots huff the cum and shit of weapons manufacturers.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >If it's not invulnerable to a direct hit from a 80cm Schwerer Gustav, it's under armored

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        *the A2 model Ukraine is getting

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The movie (and book) are completely retarded and put blame in the wrong places.
        One day, if we achieve a just society, there will be a movie that puts the blame entirely on the Reformers and the retards in Congress and media.
        It will be a serious documentary with zero exageration, but it will still feel like an absurdist comedy.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I can link you to a video where a drunken Scottish homosexual spends about 30 minutes tearing burton and his moves apart if you like

          You dont have to watch it if you dont want to, but its here if you'd like

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Good enough to be made into mandatory viewing for normies, I guess.
            And the low quality makes it good enough to use as punitive viewing for anyone dumb enough to watch Pentagon Wars.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the f-35 is a hunk of shit with more than 50% of airframes inoperable for maintenance at any given point. you are a fucking clown who sucks the cock of the shareholders of multibillion dollar defense contractors who build shit to break so they make money on the backend with parts and specialist servicing. The US military industrial complex pilfered Nazi scientists after the war who engrained this technological superiority bullshit into the pentagon. Look how well technological superiority worked out against a mass of Soviets and semi useful shit that is easy to maintain. Look how well it has worked any time the US occupies a place.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Sprey! You fiend! Dispossess that poor anon at once! Back! Back I say! Back to your M113 shaped coffin!

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          someone's triggered

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            someone got paid less than a fucking NYC teacher to take the lives of hundreds of men in his hands while the army pissed money down the drain on shit that broke all the time and diversity and inclusion training from subversive civilian consultants that pushed the last people with common sense out of the COC. You gays literally dickride a military institution that is more retarded than Stalin's red army in 1940.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              you what?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              More retarded? Maybe. But damn, the healthcare isn't half bad. And I have 3 fucking kids, with another on the way

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                lol half the military or more is literally in for only the bennies at this point

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >mad becuz he couldnt make it past E3 and blamed it on diversity

              lmao

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That guy is a never-served.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              tja dickride girls und panzer chicks lol seen jdf recently? hey

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Worlds best supersonic cruise missile
            That thing is oversized as shit while having comparable performance to an ASM-3A. The difference being that the only thing big enough to carry one is an Su-30 and it can only carry a single one while an F-2 can carry four ASM-3As for much better saturation attacks. India is trying to downsize the thing with the NG variant, but in the process massively gimped the performance for a missile still larger than the superior ASM-3.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Look how well technological superiority worked out against a mass of Soviets and semi useful shit that is easy to maintain.
          Uhh, really well actually. Are you saying out leftovers from a generation ago aren’t doing a number on the current Russian military?
          > Soviets and semi useful shit
          Kek ok
          >that is easy to maintain.
          Then explain the utter disrepair of their tank fleets

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Look how well technological superiority worked out against a mass of Soviets and semi useful shit that is easy to maintain.
          Watch as I btfo you using a mere four words: the 1991 Gulf War.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The US military industrial complex pilfered Nazi scientists after the war who engrained this technological superiority bullshit into the pentagon

          These guys made rockets that actually worked, unlike the american homegrown programs. And the military industrial complex is an entirely homegrown american enterprise, a logical outcome of the wall street to USgov military policy pipeline that Smedley Butler described well before world war 2.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Worked out great for the US tho.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      its a book written by a group famous for
      >lying about inventing a10
      >lying about inventing f16
      >lying about actually having anything to do in developing any weapons systems beyond being in the same building as people from lockheed once
      >wanting f15, f14, f16, a10, etc etc canned and replaced with a wooden plane that had NO avionics beyond maybe light bulbs for a compass and armed with a cannon
      >wanting every single armored vehicle canned and replaced with base model m113 with a .50
      >seriously suggesting m113 replace transport helicopters by slapping wings on it
      >saying a10 was actually all you need but only if you keep the worst weapon system (the gun) and remove everything else (the missiles and smartbombs) once it turned out a10 most effective use was dropping smart weapons

      It's a comedy with no basis in real life made by flat earther/vatnik equivalents of us arms industry.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >wanting every single armored vehicle canned and replaced with base model m113 with a .50
        >seriously suggesting m113 replace transport helicopters by slapping wings on it

        Gotta actually defend the reformers here (fuck me) and say that Sparky was never actually part of them as much as that he was just a deranged fanboy who took their stuff and then went beyond full schizo with it.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        id believe some bureaucrat would scorch our ability and be an obstacle, ive heard a-10 men canything with a remote or jotick, heard a story about the plane capable of flying with half a wing one engine and aileron.. its always a skilled pilot a-10 so olld the baes cant keep up they need new frames, imagine a10 poilot and a10 kinnies

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Those days are ancient history. Desert Storm is ancient history too and that was after Brads were well sorted. (The US actually upgrades its vehicle fleets.)

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The guy it's about thought a fighter jet with no radar, no missiles and an off the shelf radio was a good idea

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Is this really that useful or did they just exaggerate how bad it was?

      The bradley has never engaged a peer enemy. The problem is that it has zero protection against shaped charges except side mounted reactive armor, which is passable against primitive RPG-7s but not against anti tank missiles. In most cases where a bradley is destroyed in ukraine it will not see what is shooting at it, it will go like this, a russian with binouculars 2 km away spots the bradley moving around, a nearby anti tank team takes the shot, the bradley just experiences a missile coming out of nowhere and hitting it.

      Every brand of western IFV suffers from this problem. They arent really combat worthy against a peer enemy, but they are passable for colonial warfare against iron age durkadurkas with akms and rpg-7s. Same with all these wheeled vehicles.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The bradley has never engaged a peer enemy
        Iraq army 1991.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >>The bradley has never engaged a peer enemy
          >Iraq army 1991.

          Thats bullshit, the iraqis had locally assembled shit that looked like a T-72 but lacked the composite armor insert and used scrap steel APFSDS. Their guns werent even boresighted. Third worlders to the core.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            And we've seen hollow hulls & egg cartons in modern Russian equipment. What's your point?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Those aren't egg cartons.
              They're shaped charge plastique, you dingus!

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >They arent really combat worthy against a peer enemy, but they are passable for colonial warfare against iron age durkadurkas with akms and rpg-7s.
        Well its a good thing they are being sent to fight russians in Ukraine and not a peer enemy then

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That thinks light armored enough that an rpg-29 or even an rpg-7 with the updated tandem warhead will punch it clean. You'd think Russia would have a lot of those. But then again, maybe not.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No one here has ever been in a Bradley they are maintenance nightmares.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      all large military vehicles are maintenance nightmares

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ^This, and were the Army intelligent it would have a separate maintenance career track where technicians stayed technicians their whole careers. The Air Force should do likewise.

        Military vehicles aircraft included are not difficult to work on but doing that with a frequently rotating population many of whom are not technically inclined is problematic. That's why contractors exist.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >^This, and were the Army intelligent it would have a separate maintenance career track where technicians stayed technicians their whole careers. The Air Force should do likewise.
          >Military vehicles aircraft included are not difficult to work on but doing that with a frequently rotating population many of whom are not technically inclined is problematic. That's why contractors exist.

          Congratulations, you just described a basic graft scheme without understanding it. +1 for spotting it, -1 for not understanding what you saw. Intentionally introducing dysfunction in a system and then offering the (for profit) solution is an age old scam tactic of gods chosen people. "Block busting" is a variant of this scheme that was used after introducting the necessary dysfunction with the desegregation and civil rights programs of the 60s. Private schools are another variant of this scheme that profits of the same introduced dysfunction. You see how this game is played now?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Perhaps the most famous example of this is the conservative "starve the beast" strategy originally developed by the american republican party.
            What you do is increase government spending while cutting revenue as much as possible (typically through massive corporate and high income bracket tax breaks) in order to create dysfunction in government programs and institutions which you then use as an excuse to privatise them and sell them to your freinds/family on the cheap, who buy them wuth the money they saved from the tax cuts

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    lets be fair, the vatniks barely have countermeasures for rocks and sticks, and those they have arent too effective.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's just an IFV and they're nonly getting surplus models.

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    bradass

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Shit is gonna get really awkward when the Hohols use these to take out the brand new T-90M Proriv 3 being used by Wagner. I wonder how long Putin will put up with his butler's successive failures.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wagner is getting the t-90 m right now

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Putin no longer holds any power in Russia.
      Observe Pirgozhin:
      >openly insults Putin's henchmen
      >boldly claims credit for the achievements of Putin's henchmen
      >openly defies orders sent down by Putin
      >openly defies all laws and disrespects police and Rosgvardia at every turn

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it's not some kind of superweapon, they will be destroyed in Ukraine, that's just a fact of war, people die, expensive things get blown up. With that said, I am by no means a Bradley hater, on the contrary I quite like the plucky little things, I think they will probably do quite well in the east. Just don't get demoralized when you see a video of one getting blown sky high by a t72 because it's going to happen.
    Still would way rather be in a brad than any russian ifv

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bradleys will probably only hunt at night.

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Casually destroys the Bradley

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The M2 Bradley base model had all-around protection against 14.5mm fire.

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Russia has no counter

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      how are the termimorons doing?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I remember hearing that all 10 of them were being sent into Ukraine back in like march, no word since then

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >no word since then
          https://eurasiantimes.com/russias-terminator-bmpt-terminates-ukrainian-positions-moscow/
          https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/ukraine-situation-report-mining-town-of-soledar-holds-against-latest-russian-onslaught

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          they're probably in the rear waiting to shred to pieces any Russian conscript that try to flee the front line

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      so true

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >idiotic showpiece that has no real role in modern combined-arms warfare, and that's if we assume it works as advertised

      vs

      >actualy sensibly designed, high-quality IFV that has seen decades of combat experience with a highly successful record

      That just the first batch of Bradleys delivered to the Ukrainians literally outnumbers all BMPTs ever made is merely the cherry on top.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Are any of them active, in the field, and functional? That’s a sincere question.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nobody said that of the terminator. The terminator is shite because its badly designed, the optics are useless to the point where the commander has been seen getting between the fucking cannons to see around

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      post terminator
      >404: terminator not found

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Okay I know that the Bradley is really good, but what about the Marder and that french wheeled light tank thing?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Marder is shit but still better than nothing; imagine if the bongs sent some Warriors, it's roughly on par with that. Better thann M113s but that's about it.

      No fucking clue about the frog tonk but the 105mm gun should at least be able to fuck with T72s a bit from the side (if they get a chance).

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The thermal imagers on the Bradleys they are receiving are unchanged from the 1980s.
    They aren't actually that special compared to the more modern Russian tanks, Russia has a fairly large number of tanks with second generation thermal imagers at least for the gunner sights.
    Obviously it's still a very useful vehicle, but it's hardly a game changing capability.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Anon, those tanks are long gone by now. They're using beat up BMPs and rapidly remobilized T-72s that had their optics stripped to maintain the now-junked models.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They still have 600+, T-72B3, T-80BVMs T-90A/M if you compare military balance with Oryx's losses

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      M2A2s were all eventually modified to M2A2 ODS or M2A3 standard, therefore they wioll have the optics upgrade package that was rolled out in 2000.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The thermal imagers on the Bradleys they are receiving are unchanged from the 1980s.

      So they're wholly superior to anything the Russkies have, is what you're saying.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        AND they were maintained properly.

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    this thing will die to massed russian artillery strikes and lancet drones just like everything else the US has sent so far
    think of all the himars wreckage footage but multiply it by 10

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >all the himars wreckage footage but multiply it by 10
      so zero?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >muh massed dumb artillery

      Virtually useless against mobile armored vehicles. ANd that's before we get into how the Russians ahv erun down their ammo stockpiles and shot out their barrels to the point where they're lucky nowadays to get shells within half a mile of where they're aiming.

      >muh lancet

      LMAO. Absolutely worthless.

      >think of all the himars wreckage footage but multiply it by 10

      0 multiplied by 10 is still 0.

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All these useless boxes will be destroyed by Russians in a month, probably less. Russian tanks T-90M will slaughter them.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >prettied-up T-72

      LMAO. We all know what happens when Bradleys meet T-72s.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I can't wait for the next vatnig cope when TOWs start lighting up slavshitboxes

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        500 TOWs won't do shit. Russian tanks have new armour now, which will help them to survive almost everything.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          LMAO. So that's another 500 slavshitboxes confirmed to be about to die. Vatmoron seething and coping is gonna go into overdrive.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What new armor?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There's a Red Effect vid about it on youtube from a few weeks back.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              And in it he literally says their impact will be minimal. Slapping some extra ERA on the back of the turret is a waste of time

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I've seen this new armour, it's a pathetic excuse, utter cope. Not only that but you'd have to be clinically retarded to thinkk vatniks have the logistic resources to have deployed it en masse to the majority of their tanks already, or any time soon for that matter.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >new armor
          these mobiks are in their 20-40

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Basically just poorly thought out upgrades that dont do a whole lot and leave more important stuff out

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How viable are mechanised night-time operations?
    Everyone keeps jacking off the bradley's optics, could you mount a full nighttime assault with them or is it more like just any small nighttime skirmish will have them absolutely dominate anything Russia has?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The driver, gunner, and TC all have independent thermal sights. They can absolutely operate at night.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The driver sights are meant for driving, they can't move or zoom.

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Mechanized 11b here. Idk what this schizo is trying to say but yes, the Army still uses Bradleys, even for sandbox type stuff - see the Syrian prison break last year where UK and US SOF had fire support provided by a Bradley platoon.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We're in the act of replacing them, which is why the shitzo is saying it. We also have a very large amount of them that are shitcanned.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Are we though? The plan laid out for the future of the US military had Penetration brigades which would comprise of Heavy mechanized (Bradley's) to go with the tanks. The Stryker is not replacing them in that role and I expect us to have more 'penetration divisions' and a reduction of leg units (we do not need 5 light IDs in Active duty and only have 3 real armored divisions).

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I still remember the Terminators having shrek dolls taped to them for some reason lol

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/siiypeP.jpg

      Oh well that's sure shown us, I'm going to immediately bombard my congressman with emails telling him we need to cease all funding of this mindless war of which Ukraine has absolutely no hope of winning, whilst I sit here freezing in my Dusseldorf apartment with homeless immigrants trying to break into my house to steal food because there is nothing to buy in the shops and the entire economy is collapsing.

      t. Roger Hitler, Lufthansa oblast

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/siiypeP.jpg

      https://i.imgur.com/Xz70Xtk.jpg

      Now do Russian stuff.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/siiypeP.jpg

      https://i.imgur.com/Xz70Xtk.jpg

      [...]

      [...]

      https://i.imgur.com/g3cAhj1.png

      I see.

      Hi Dennis.

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It will very likely do well, the memes about it being bad are from the "reformers" and they were just frauds.

  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  31. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    lufthansa dependent state you probably wanted to write

  32. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You will get yours M2BV obr. 2023 and you will like it

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Painting cross like emblems on your vehicles bugs me. It's a perfect target. If you paint them over the strongest armor that's great, but still.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >It's a perfect target
        Anon, if you see the markings - you see the vehicle, that's already a perfect target.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What I'm saying it makes it really easy to just line up your sights and nail it. At least put the emblems somewhere less of consequence than right next to the crew. It's basically the same thing as why some urinals had flies etched into them a while back. Move that back to the troop compartment at least. You hit the vehicle it doesn't mean it's toast. You hit either of those crosses in that image and it's scrap. You better bet your ass a gunner will aim at that marking given the chance.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What the actual fuck am i reading? Are you really stupid enough to think this? Like if you paint an x on your bellybutton your top is gonna shove his dick in there instead of your gaping asshole? Is that the dumb shit you are saying?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Is it really that hard to understand gay? Having a cross to aim at makes it really fucking easy and they're more likely to fire at that. If your gay lover is trying to aim his dick he's aiming it at your anus, not your whole body. Meanwhile with tanks, IFVs, and whatnot the whole thing is the target so you can sometimes manipulate people by giving them a target in a place you'd rather be hit like on your strongest plates or a place where the crew won't die the moment it's penetrated. It's not guaranteed to work but it absolutely can and does. Brain fuckery is just as much a weapon as the tank you're applying it to is.

              The fly in the urinal thing was an experiment that basically found you can sort of control where someone aims by giving them a target to shoot at. You can already piss on the majority of a urinal, but people shot the fly.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I try to imagine Omar Bradley's reaction upon reading the name of this thing
      >Captcha: ASS4NK

  33. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Brad can take 30mm fire on the frontal arc fine and is protected from 20mm on the sides. It's NREA packages will resist most light shoulder fired AT weapons too. I wouldn't call that lightly protected. In addition new active protection systems such as iron fist will let it survive literally anything fired at it that didn't come down from on high. The 242 is more then enough to deal with any light armored vehicle such as BMPs and is even capable of harming T72s from the side and rear arcs. TOW is one of the gold standards for heavy anti tank use and to pretend otherwise is folly.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Honestly its not worth trying to say anything to them. They all got their info from pentagon wars spouting arm generals and straight from the asshole of some russian disinfo spreader. They dont care to listen to any reasonable discussion. Most of it will just boil down to them screeching that a tank can still take one out with its main cannon because its armor is too thin. Like thats a fucking situation they were built to do. Its so fucking silly.

  34. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I see.

  35. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If I see the words "Pentagon Wars" one more fucking time I'm gonna snap

  36. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    The original M2 Bradley was proof against 14.5mm from the sides and rear, and the modern versions are all-around proof against 30mm fire.

  37. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Everything beyong 12.7mm will destroy the Bradley. 20mm will destroy the Bradley.
    It’s rated against 14.5mm and always has been. Why do you people lie about easily verifiable things?

  38. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >They have no counter at night
    >Gets keked by Kornets

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