I'd rather hate the eotech it is clearer under NVG on IR which is the only point in using anything other than irons or a full scope or lpov anyway. A cheap shitty red dot is a cheap shitty red dot. They are all basically the same.
Any reason to get his instead of a holosun?
I got one a couple weeks ago for right at 400 after tax and shipping. Love the actual hologram.
They're a NG unit from Virginia tasked with domestic information warfare. Being NG makes it easier for them to operate against domestic targets on American soil.
>Being NG makes it easier for them to operate against domestic targets on American soil.
Deploying military assets against your own people seems to be a pattern for regimes that just had a fraudulent democratic process. Whether its Joe Biden coming into power while the national guard is deployed against protestors after the shady 2am vote counting and courts refusing to do anything, or Poroshenko coming into power in Ukraine then starting an 8 year war against the regions who voted for the last president and didn't accept the new regime.
you mean the thread with the obviously fake one, only partially made obvious because he tried to claim a two year old EXPS didn't get warrantied despite the mfg stating they will do the work for ten years?
And the fact that he refused to show the emitter?
I own both, I'm not a "fanboy" of either. Each has flaws, but it's pretty blatantly obvious when you're taking selective photos of something.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>taking selective photos
Didn't seem so to me. He was just showing the lense. I own 4 eotechs (if you count magnifiers) and 0 holosuns. Why would a chink knockoff delaminate the exact same way real ones are known to do? It's a common issue.
2 years ago
Anonymous
all optics can delaminate. That's the problem. You could lose the nitrogen purge in a chinese optic the exact same way, that's not specific to eotech in the way it happened
2 years ago
Anonymous
Non laminated optics can't.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>non laminated optics can't
I might be moronic, but do you think that wasn't implied
2 years ago
Anonymous
The argument is sound. EOTech only has laminated optics, so the failure is potentially in any of them. Owning the optic carries the risk which is not present in a large number of other brands.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>its a common issue
In 2016. Not since they got sued and fixed the issue.
Despite some legitimacy to the delam stuff, it's not that common or widespread. I've had a couple 512s, XPS and EXPS and currently have an ancient 555 and have never had a single issue with EOTech's stuff. I shoot during relatively cool mid-atlantic winters (20s to 30s) and steaming hot summers (90-105 degrees with 90%+ humidity) and have never experienced a drastic or even noticeable shift in zero. Internet autists love running with any problem and doing their best to bury a brand in shit, despite rarely experiencing anything for themselves firsthand. To be clear, I don't care what anon buys with his money, there's an endless supply of great options out there from cheap chinese stuff to American and Euro optics; all perfectly fine for a vast, sweeping majority of us.
Nope - the Holosun line up are actually LED sights. The UH1 gen 2 is a US/UK made sight.
I'd positively argue that the 512/516 (if you have NV) is superior to that with a riser.
No, it really isn't.
People don't understand the battery is not a 1k hours true run - it shuts off after 8 hours max, 4 hours optional (press up button last to set it to 8, down power button to set to 4)
you can reset this timer by pressing the up then down arrow or the opposite way (depending on what timer you want).
So you need to think of it in "uses" if you don't shut it off when you no longer need it and just let it run - you get 250 4 hour range trips or 125 8 hour ones per battery and that's pretty accurate. I have on eotech that I had the same battery in for 20 months and used about six hours per week, without any battery swaps.
the obvious flaw to this system is that if you just plain don't remember to turn it on or idly reset the power every 8 hours it won't be on when you need it.
Thanks, I want a red dot/holo with a big window for my sp5a2 and I'm torn between an eotech, a vortex uh-1 gen 2 and a sigger romeo 8t.
I'm an euro who plinks at steel so I'm mainly looking for something that looks cool but that will also last me years.
seriously the problem is fixed by buying batteries in bulk.
Dudes spend WAY too much time getting spun up by battery life - CR123As are $1 a piece in bulk. For once per two years replacement this cost means nothing.
Can someone explain the benefits of a LED vs holographic, because all i see online are adverts as to why aimpoint is better or holosun is justasgood or eotech is better
Red dot consume less energy but will not stay true with magnification. Holo will stay true 1 moa with magnification but consume more battery. Holosuns are chinese red dots that are okay in quality.
no that's wrong, what the frick?
LED red dots "change" in size when magnified the issue is that a 2 MOA dot covers more of the target at closer ranges than a 1 MOA does
a 2 MOA dot will become 4 MOA at 200 yards, 6 MOA at 300 etc
a 1 MOA holo is 2 MOA at 200, 3 MOA at 300
No, no one seems to agree. >The red dot reticle remains the same size when looking through a magnifier scope. 1 MOA will still be 1 MOA. 2 MOA will still be 2 MOA. >The magnifier didn't change the reticle, it simply gave the shooter a magnified view of their target and their red dot.
I think he meant the springs failing in 512 models
It's actually the opposite, the center dot of an eotech when magnified appears visibly similar to how big it is unmagnified which would mean it covers less of the target when magnified which would mean the eotech dot is actually appearing to change size relative to the target. Also this isn't actually true, it does magnify just as much as a regular dot it's just that it's not actually 1moa but much smaller, but due to bloom it appears to be at minimum 1moa when unmagnified and when magnified the magic of lenses mostly eliminates the bloom so we can see the center dot's true size which is less than 1moa.
But yeh to a caved in head moron it's easier to just say dot no change size.
I meant that an eotech stays 1 moa, a red dot becomes 2 moa.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I know what you meant and you're wrong. A red dot stays 2moa. An eotech stays whatever the crap size it is but unmagnified it appeared 1moa and now it appears to be half moa or so.
It's actually the opposite, the center dot of an eotech when magnified appears visibly similar to how big it is unmagnified which would mean it covers less of the target when magnified which would mean the eotech dot is actually appearing to change size relative to the target. Also this isn't actually true, it does magnify just as much as a regular dot it's just that it's not actually 1moa but much smaller, but due to bloom it appears to be at minimum 1moa when unmagnified and when magnified the magic of lenses mostly eliminates the bloom so we can see the center dot's true size which is less than 1moa.
But yeh to a caved in head moron it's easier to just say dot no change size.
No they don't. A 2 MOA dot covers ~2" of your target whether it's unmagnified or magnified. It appears larger the same way your target appears larger because magnification'n'shit.
I'd unironocally rather buy a holosun
still not buying chinkshit
I'd rather hate the eotech it is clearer under NVG on IR which is the only point in using anything other than irons or a full scope or lpov anyway. A cheap shitty red dot is a cheap shitty red dot. They are all basically the same.
>Love the actual hologram.
/thread
The 512 eotechs that are going for $400 right now arent the NVG ones
I got one a couple weeks ago for right at 400 after tax and shipping. Love the actual hologram.
Any reason to get his instead of a holosun?
It's actually a hologram.
You wanna rd or holo?
There is for a fake/too old eotech
Its wither fake or old considering op refused to show date of manufacture or any other details regarding the optic
OP was a homosexual thats what
True holographic. Made in US. Despite all the hate, still a good sight. That's about it.
Mental moronation
Thank God
adding Black person doesnt even make sense here
Tourist refuse to say Black person. It’s one of the ways to differentiate them
They're not tourists: it's the 91st Cyber Brigade.
How's the weather in Bowling Green today, 91st? Are you going to hand out another permanent US Law ban because I mentioned you?
>cyber brigade
lol, is that real? sounds like it should be the name of the badguys from a cartoon like paw patrol
They're a NG unit from Virginia tasked with domestic information warfare. Being NG makes it easier for them to operate against domestic targets on American soil.
do you think they have any ladies (female) haha
cyber units wouldn't be doing psy ops, it would be intel. You don't need any IT knowledge to shitpost on PrepHole and other social media.
a lot of the anti-russian posts are so poorly written I assumed it was european shills or contracted out to indian call centers
Probably not even European since most educated Europeans know English pretty well.
>Being NG makes it easier for them to operate against domestic targets on American soil.
Deploying military assets against your own people seems to be a pattern for regimes that just had a fraudulent democratic process. Whether its Joe Biden coming into power while the national guard is deployed against protestors after the shady 2am vote counting and courts refusing to do anything, or Poroshenko coming into power in Ukraine then starting an 8 year war against the regions who voted for the last president and didn't accept the new regime.
Lol isn’t there another thread up right now about the delam issues these have?
you mean the thread with the obviously fake one, only partially made obvious because he tried to claim a two year old EXPS didn't get warrantied despite the mfg stating they will do the work for ten years?
And the fact that he refused to show the emitter?
>obviously fake
Smells like butthurt
No. I own a pair of Aimpoints, something was pretty fricky about that thread.
So... what does owning aimpoints have to do with eotechs?
I own both, I'm not a "fanboy" of either. Each has flaws, but it's pretty blatantly obvious when you're taking selective photos of something.
>taking selective photos
Didn't seem so to me. He was just showing the lense. I own 4 eotechs (if you count magnifiers) and 0 holosuns. Why would a chink knockoff delaminate the exact same way real ones are known to do? It's a common issue.
all optics can delaminate. That's the problem. You could lose the nitrogen purge in a chinese optic the exact same way, that's not specific to eotech in the way it happened
Non laminated optics can't.
>non laminated optics can't
I might be moronic, but do you think that wasn't implied
The argument is sound. EOTech only has laminated optics, so the failure is potentially in any of them. Owning the optic carries the risk which is not present in a large number of other brands.
>its a common issue
In 2016. Not since they got sued and fixed the issue.
Despite some legitimacy to the delam stuff, it's not that common or widespread. I've had a couple 512s, XPS and EXPS and currently have an ancient 555 and have never had a single issue with EOTech's stuff. I shoot during relatively cool mid-atlantic winters (20s to 30s) and steaming hot summers (90-105 degrees with 90%+ humidity) and have never experienced a drastic or even noticeable shift in zero. Internet autists love running with any problem and doing their best to bury a brand in shit, despite rarely experiencing anything for themselves firsthand. To be clear, I don't care what anon buys with his money, there's an endless supply of great options out there from cheap chinese stuff to American and Euro optics; all perfectly fine for a vast, sweeping majority of us.
Is the primary arms 3x prism scope chinkshit or is it good chinkshit?
I have the 2.5x and it's some pretty good chink shit. Well built and pretty good glass with excellent eye relief.
Still wouldn’t buy that pos
Is this any good?
Probably the best sight you could buy for 280 bucks
Add a $20 YHM .5" riser to bring it to 1.93" if you like that height and you've got a 12 oz holographic sight made in the US for $400.
current pricing anyway
Is there any other holographic sights on the market other than the UH-1?
Nope - the Holosun line up are actually LED sights. The UH1 gen 2 is a US/UK made sight.
I'd positively argue that the 512/516 (if you have NV) is superior to that with a riser.
Is the battery problem for this model an issue for someone like me who only plinks at the range?
No, it really isn't.
People don't understand the battery is not a 1k hours true run - it shuts off after 8 hours max, 4 hours optional (press up button last to set it to 8, down power button to set to 4)
you can reset this timer by pressing the up then down arrow or the opposite way (depending on what timer you want).
So you need to think of it in "uses" if you don't shut it off when you no longer need it and just let it run - you get 250 4 hour range trips or 125 8 hour ones per battery and that's pretty accurate. I have on eotech that I had the same battery in for 20 months and used about six hours per week, without any battery swaps.
the obvious flaw to this system is that if you just plain don't remember to turn it on or idly reset the power every 8 hours it won't be on when you need it.
Thanks, I want a red dot/holo with a big window for my sp5a2 and I'm torn between an eotech, a vortex uh-1 gen 2 and a sigger romeo 8t.
I'm an euro who plinks at steel so I'm mainly looking for something that looks cool but that will also last me years.
seriously the problem is fixed by buying batteries in bulk.
Dudes spend WAY too much time getting spun up by battery life - CR123As are $1 a piece in bulk. For once per two years replacement this cost means nothing.
I think he meant the springs failing in 512 models
Can someone explain the benefits of a LED vs holographic, because all i see online are adverts as to why aimpoint is better or holosun is justasgood or eotech is better
Red dot consume less energy but will not stay true with magnification. Holo will stay true 1 moa with magnification but consume more battery. Holosuns are chinese red dots that are okay in quality.
no that's wrong, what the frick?
LED red dots "change" in size when magnified the issue is that a 2 MOA dot covers more of the target at closer ranges than a 1 MOA does
a 2 MOA dot will become 4 MOA at 200 yards, 6 MOA at 300 etc
a 1 MOA holo is 2 MOA at 200, 3 MOA at 300
don't change*
Red dots change in size. Holo stay true in size. It's what I said and it's right.
No, no one seems to agree.
>The red dot reticle remains the same size when looking through a magnifier scope. 1 MOA will still be 1 MOA. 2 MOA will still be 2 MOA.
>The magnifier didn't change the reticle, it simply gave the shooter a magnified view of their target and their red dot.
uh no, wrong reply?
I meant that an eotech stays 1 moa, a red dot becomes 2 moa.
I know what you meant and you're wrong. A red dot stays 2moa. An eotech stays whatever the crap size it is but unmagnified it appeared 1moa and now it appears to be half moa or so.
It's actually the opposite, the center dot of an eotech when magnified appears visibly similar to how big it is unmagnified which would mean it covers less of the target when magnified which would mean the eotech dot is actually appearing to change size relative to the target. Also this isn't actually true, it does magnify just as much as a regular dot it's just that it's not actually 1moa but much smaller, but due to bloom it appears to be at minimum 1moa when unmagnified and when magnified the magic of lenses mostly eliminates the bloom so we can see the center dot's true size which is less than 1moa.
But yeh to a caved in head moron it's easier to just say dot no change size.
No they don't. A 2 MOA dot covers ~2" of your target whether it's unmagnified or magnified. It appears larger the same way your target appears larger because magnification'n'shit.
Yes, this behaviour is called sliding, and is common for shills to do, vatnig
Shut the frick up, moron
We're tired of watching Russia lose for the sixth month in a row
But are they better than holosuns or aimpoints is the question
Why should I get a holo sight over a red dot if I don't have astigmatism?
I hear holo parallax is a lot less, and if you have NVGs they are better. Also they magnify better.
But with dots you get a lot cheaper optics and battery life that is absurd.
>This post killed a Russia/Ukraine thread.
based
If it was a 552 I'd be interested, but all of EOTech's NV capable optics are wildly overpriced.
Thats because they are frankly among the best at nvg use
It's Christmas in August?
Down unda
good. frick ukredditors
>Christmas sale
>it's August
I am confuse