This is why you should hire a designer

One of my hobbies is going on Zillow and looking at home designs. Especially now that every dumbass with a bit of change is getting into real estate and design. So... home design fails, I guess?
Pic related. Good looking kitchen, right? Nice design, new cabinets. Kinda small, but oh well.
"What about a refrigerator? Where... where does the refrigerator go?"

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The refrigerator I'd probably to the right of the stove, out of frame

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The fridge is directly to the right in the picture. It's likely a built-in and the end of an "L" counter.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You can see the wall to the left of the frame and this house looks pretty low end for built in fridges

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I dont need a designer to tell me the kitchen should have a fridge

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Kinda small, but oh well.

    small compared to what. How huge is your fat american ass anyway.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      By small I think OP means it has a lot of wasted space. For how much floor it has it needs a lot more counter space.

      Also american kitchens are sized on the assumption that you'll have three or four people in there working at a time during holiday meals

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >I have an useless degree but you should hire me because I know better

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    how much counter space does one need

    • 1 month ago
      Bepis

      Never enough!

      My last house barely had any space, especially since there was a microwave on the stove. This new house has like a U-shaped kitchen with a larger bar type counter near the sink, it’s great. The wife can have a giant baking setup on the right hand side of the stove while I’m cooking on the left.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If a trad wife can cook in this kitchen, I don't need more.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Also american kitchens are sized on the assumption that you'll have three or four people in there working at a time during holiday meals
      She can't. You'd know if you had a good family.

      That space was almost certainly never intended to be a kitchen, and even with a fridge (which is likely behind the wall section on the right) it sucks both design-wise and in execution: window bottom should be level with the countertops, first bottom cabinet space next to it was obviously a frickup with two 1' wide (if that) cabs next to each other, cabinets are cheap with shallow uppers, it's got the cheapest-ass laminate flooring oriented the wrong way, it's got a single ceiling light fixture with no task lighting for counter work...

      It looks like a tiny living room or large mud/utility room someone threw some cabinets and a stove in and are calling it a kitchen, or maybe it's some kind of studio/granny flat carved out of an existing space to add buyer appeal.

      The space isn't the problem, it's the poor use of it- raise the window sill height and use that area for cabs and the sink and you'd have better flow *and* enough room left over for a nice eat in dining area. Still needs better lighting and a real kitchen floor though.

      It's definitely not meant for a kitchen but that's not an excuse to be stupid.
      I've lived in a basement where someone put in one sink, 1/3 of those cabinets, no stove. There was room for the fridge and it looked more like a kitchen

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >NEW LUXURY FLOORING
    >FRIDGE HOOKUPS
    >CLOSE TO SHOPPING
    >$2000/MO PLUS TIP MINIMUM 3 YEAR LEASE

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'd pay $2000/mo for a nice walk-in kitchen.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Gross.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >walk-in kitchen
        As opposed to what... a kitchen you can't walk in to?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          jesus is this board full of stiffs who can't spot a joke from a mile away?

          Anyway, I once dated a girl who referred to our date as going to a "walk-in" theater. Which I thought was kinda funny. Bet you don't get that one either. Sigh.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >his kitchen isn't a drive-through for homemade meals on the go
          Kids tehse days...

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    That space was almost certainly never intended to be a kitchen, and even with a fridge (which is likely behind the wall section on the right) it sucks both design-wise and in execution: window bottom should be level with the countertops, first bottom cabinet space next to it was obviously a frickup with two 1' wide (if that) cabs next to each other, cabinets are cheap with shallow uppers, it's got the cheapest-ass laminate flooring oriented the wrong way, it's got a single ceiling light fixture with no task lighting for counter work...

    It looks like a tiny living room or large mud/utility room someone threw some cabinets and a stove in and are calling it a kitchen, or maybe it's some kind of studio/granny flat carved out of an existing space to add buyer appeal.

    The space isn't the problem, it's the poor use of it- raise the window sill height and use that area for cabs and the sink and you'd have better flow *and* enough room left over for a nice eat in dining area. Still needs better lighting and a real kitchen floor though.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This is most likely a flip. Hate those homosexuals so much.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I mean right here seems like the obvious choice, makes the triangle, breaks up the entry way a bit and is still better than a galley. add a rolling butcher block next to it and you've got another counter or a temporary island. this is honestly better than a galley kitchen no matter where it goes.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >nice
      some israelite flipped a shithole house on the cheap. I just noticed the fake bricks too lmao

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >I just noticed the fake bricks too lmao
        >WAOW the tile backsplash isn't real bricks!?!?!?!?!?!?!

        I don't hire an interior designer because I don't want everything to be shades of grey and white.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          it's tacky and moronic. just put in normal looking tiles.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Kills any and all room for a dining room table or walking space to back door.

      https://i.imgur.com/V8A8YZh.jpg

      Whoa this was hard (that's sarcasm it really wasn't hard)

      Fixed better for you and doesn't require you to redo window, plumbing, etc.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >right to left opening door against a left wall
        Terrible.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It's actually about 6 inches out from the wall, but it's hard to see because of perspective. Not ideal, but better than having it on the opposite side of the kitchen.
          Also, the guy uploaded more pictures. It's worse than I thought. He cut into the baseboard to accomodate a space for the refrigerator outlet.

          zillow.com/homedetails/8709-NE-10th-St-Midwest-City-OK-73110/22004400_zpid/

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >You will LOVE ...the massive 3rd bedroom/playroom/office/gym (so many options for this room) this home has!

            Formerly known as the garage.

            Conveniently located directly across the street from a fire station, walking/ wheelchair distance to the VFW...perfect for deaf veteran with revoked driving privileges!

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Its crazy my house is smaller than this and i see so many houses bigger than mine with such dogshit layouts they seem smaller

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        wow a whole 0.5 sqft of counterspace, thanks i love it

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Greige flipper special

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >dining room table
        That's what the dining room is for, dipshit.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    the microwave taking up counter space is more of an issue. almost every other comment is
    >t. I've never lived anywhere but my parents mcmansion!
    or bepis.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >t. I've never lived anywhere but my parents mcmansion!
      How is this your takeaway in a thread about design? That kitchen design is suboptimal no matter what your perspective is. There's so much wasted space here.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Whoa this was hard (that's sarcasm it really wasn't hard)

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >stove and sink 1 mile apart
      shit design

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >fridge next to stove
        shit design

        I was trying to keep it as simple as possible you frickers.

        https://i.imgur.com/5I3pfWL.jpg

        Kills any and all room for a dining room table or walking space to back door.

        [...]
        Fixed better for you and doesn't require you to redo window, plumbing, etc.

        To actually fix it you'll have to move those things.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >no shed or saddam hussein
          get off my board

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Frick you, Microwave/vent hoods are garbage. Dedicated vent hood and put the microwave on a shelf somewhere else.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            They vent the smells right back into your face as you cook though.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Microwave range hoods venting into your kitchen is an entirely separate issue from them being a microwave or not. I have a microwave hood and it has a normal outside vent

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              The one on OP's pic is externally vented, it's not the one you're thinking of that just acts as a smoke filter.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirty_kitchen

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >When we do it it's called barbecue
                >When they do it it's called a "dirty kitchen"
                Racism never stops being based

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >fridge next to stove
      shit design

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Soulless
    Here's a real kitchen

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >No obligatory Live Laugh Love tier basic white b***h "decor"
      So close yet so far

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        My grandma would never put up with that gay shit

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >30-inch-tall cabinets.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      people eat in their kitchens? poor people are weird.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Eat-in kitchens are considered an upsell feature
        >So bourgeoisie that the idea of eating in the place the food is is alien

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          no tv or pc, no eat
          my kitchen table is full of random shit

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      sovl

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Was gonna shit on the high effort, but kinda based. Minus the absolute ZERO storage space.
      Inb4
      >root cellar
      You ain’t storing your shit ass, mismatched Tupperware in a cold ass basement, homie

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Is that you, Ben Garrison?

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    just put the fridge in the closet

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    nothing says this b***h is classy like a random fridge in a random spot in the kitchen on it's own.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    When I see a listing with the stove and refrigerator touching each other with no cabinet between them, that's a HUGE red flag of a shitty renovation done by someone with limited intelligence. Another is having a stove in a corner though sometimes that legitimately can't be avoided.
    Chain link fences in front yards screams to check the crime statistics for that area.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    its a stupid window for a kitchen. It should be smaller and the lower bound should be higher.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Any ideas, what will be wrong with this plan of mine?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Actually using a meme fireplace.
      Only base shoe, so you'll have to level your floors and install proper.
      I don't know a lot going on in your plan but if you want clean walls then you obviously put in the work. Especially considering where you're starting from.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That fireplace is going to throw tinder on that couch.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    im an achritect and this is my opinion on using this prime space

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    How can I make the most of my bedroom (note: the measurements are inaccurate.)

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      File

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        L desk top right, bed bottom right, dresser where TV is, TV above L desk

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/3rdgqUv.png

          my idea is similar to another anon's, i think, but a bit different still.
          while using the computer, screens and back are safely into a corner, and give you the ability to see your surroundings anytime.
          the tv, atop the dresser and at an angle, serves both a background screen from your computer area (always in vision), and as a screen for you to see in bed, if you should so choose. (don't do this! it confuses your body. or like, whatever, do whatever you want.)
          since you made the floor hardwood, i assume it's hardwood. if so, or even if not, add a rug under your bed but poking out a bit on the edge and filling the dressing area, as seen here in green. it feels good to be able put your feet on something soft coming out of bed, and it makes it feel like a separate cozy little happy zone.
          you can see entry doors from your bed easily, without them being awkwardly behind you or awkwardly immediately 'underneath' your feet. no surprises here.
          i assume one door is a hallway and the other is a bathroom. ideally keep both closed... or at least just left cracked. creepy hallway vibes are unsettling at night. gross dark bathroom vibes keep the room from being cozy during your day.

          Nice and thanks. I will consider it this afternoon after I complete my assignments.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Thanks, looks good and feels comfy.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        my idea is similar to another anon's, i think, but a bit different still.
        while using the computer, screens and back are safely into a corner, and give you the ability to see your surroundings anytime.
        the tv, atop the dresser and at an angle, serves both a background screen from your computer area (always in vision), and as a screen for you to see in bed, if you should so choose. (don't do this! it confuses your body. or like, whatever, do whatever you want.)
        since you made the floor hardwood, i assume it's hardwood. if so, or even if not, add a rug under your bed but poking out a bit on the edge and filling the dressing area, as seen here in green. it feels good to be able put your feet on something soft coming out of bed, and it makes it feel like a separate cozy little happy zone.
        you can see entry doors from your bed easily, without them being awkwardly behind you or awkwardly immediately 'underneath' your feet. no surprises here.
        i assume one door is a hallway and the other is a bathroom. ideally keep both closed... or at least just left cracked. creepy hallway vibes are unsettling at night. gross dark bathroom vibes keep the room from being cozy during your day.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Blocks the window and won’t be able to make the bed properly.

          https://i.imgur.com/Hc43U1W.jpg

          maximize desk space and put it in front of the window
          if you really want L shape put it on the left wall
          but i'd use that space for a bookshelf or maybe lounge chair depending on how much space there really is

          Desk doesn’t detach, won’t be able to make bed properly.

          Are these legitimate concerns?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Blocks the window
            If the dresser is tall enough to completely block the window, that is a bit of a bummer, otherwise I don't see a problem. If it does, maybe rotate it 90 and keep it in that corner. Having a window by the foot of the bed is cozy af during hot summer nights or mild spring days.
            >won’t be able to make the bed properly.
            Why, because it's in a corner? Making a bed in a corner is fine, I've never had a problem with it. Guess that's a subjective thing, though.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        maximize desk space and put it in front of the window
        if you really want L shape put it on the left wall
        but i'd use that space for a bookshelf or maybe lounge chair depending on how much space there really is

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/3rdgqUv.png

        my idea is similar to another anon's, i think, but a bit different still.
        while using the computer, screens and back are safely into a corner, and give you the ability to see your surroundings anytime.
        the tv, atop the dresser and at an angle, serves both a background screen from your computer area (always in vision), and as a screen for you to see in bed, if you should so choose. (don't do this! it confuses your body. or like, whatever, do whatever you want.)
        since you made the floor hardwood, i assume it's hardwood. if so, or even if not, add a rug under your bed but poking out a bit on the edge and filling the dressing area, as seen here in green. it feels good to be able put your feet on something soft coming out of bed, and it makes it feel like a separate cozy little happy zone.
        you can see entry doors from your bed easily, without them being awkwardly behind you or awkwardly immediately 'underneath' your feet. no surprises here.
        i assume one door is a hallway and the other is a bathroom. ideally keep both closed... or at least just left cracked. creepy hallway vibes are unsettling at night. gross dark bathroom vibes keep the room from being cozy during your day.

        https://i.imgur.com/Hc43U1W.jpg

        maximize desk space and put it in front of the window
        if you really want L shape put it on the left wall
        but i'd use that space for a bookshelf or maybe lounge chair depending on how much space there really is

        Where can I use a program like this that doesn't require an account? Everything wants my info and email and shit. Frick that

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I used MS Paint to move the bits around.
          If the bits weren't there, I would have still used MS Paint - or Photopea - to draw blocks to drag around.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I rather buy some comfy unrenovated and furnished home from a dead boomer and live in there than get something soulless "designed"

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    How do I understand more about design anyway? Is there a book?

    I genuinely can't tell the difference between a Mcmansion and good design. I can kinda see bad flips. They always use that grayish blue.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      A McMansion will generally have no sense of a unified style, have a layout based on wanting a bunch of specific rooms, and the easiest one is looking at the roofline, which will have a lot of changes.
      https://mcmansionhell.com/

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >https://mcmansionhell.com/
        Those are fully custom. The design is terrible, but I was under the impression mc mansions are your bulky spec homes.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          In generally they're oversized, expensive houses built around a lot of random bullshit and cheap materials and construction techniques. They can be the result of developments building out several at once, but they can also be custom houses a rich Boomer had put up that nobody wants to buy because it was so heavily over-customized.

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Kinda small
    wtf?

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Put in a smaller window and center the sink under it, turn the corner with cabinets / counter-top, then the range, then more cabs / counter-top with fridge at the end.

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Did you know there was a time were there no refrigerators in kitchens at all? They still had a stove, or some kind of hearth. They still had cabinetry, countertops, everything else. They just didn’t have a fridge. The fridge is a relatively recent addition to the kitchen and you actually don’t need to put one in there. It also doesn’t even need to be vertical.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Same thing with toilets.
      There was a time when all you needed in your home was a basin and a pitcher of water.
      More recently, people have been adding toilets into homes, but you don't actually need one in your home at all.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Correct except not having a fridge in your kitchen won’t spread disease

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I'm pretty sure a toilet tissue required for an occupancy permit these days

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