This is the Bradley, the most modern US infantry fighting vehicle.
This is what US soldiers use. This is the peak achievement of the strongest army on the world. Unmatched and undefeated. The best of its kind.
Say something nice about it.
This is the Bradley, the most modern US infantry fighting vehicle. This is what US soldiers use.
cute light tank
Even our light tanks aren’t light tanks.
VatBlack person spam in 3..
Ursäkta mig? Vad?
Overpriced, underdeveloped garbage vehicle. Nice try though Sven. Next time think about including the ATGM as a standard you dumb frick
That's a truck.
>Overpriced,
Slovakia just got 157 of them for only $1.3bn
>underdeveloped
It has more modern sensors, weapons, armour and communications than Bradley
>Next time think about including the ATGM as a standard you dumb frick
You mean like Spike LR?
thats a lot of dosh per unit though. wouldnt 5 bmps be better than one cv90
>$8 Million+ per unit
But IFVs are basically just APCs with an autocannon-armed turret, how the frick does it make sense for each one to cost more than some tanks? You need APCs and IFVs to carry troops into battle, by definition you need vastly more of them than tanks and they're hardly a safe investment since they're usually nowhere near as well protected as tanks despite also being on the frontlines.
a new leopard is like 15 million
lmao really?
2A7+: €13–15 million (FY 2019) according to wikipedia.
but maybe the price could come down if they make a lot of them. still...tanks are moronic expensive
Apparently T-90s are about $4 million and they've been a smaller scale production than Leo2s, granted they're not as advanced but tbqh I'd probably prefer 4 T-90s to a single Leopard 2.
Or, really as this business in Ukraine has shown, I wouldn't really care to pick between the two, as long as the crew are actually trained and coordinated.
Overpriced? Ukraine got theirs for zero dollars!
>underdeveloped
The last Bradley was built almost 28 years ago, no one has bought any since even before that.
The first CV90 was made 20 years ago and 1300+ have been ordered since.
Outside of the US, only 500 Bradley were exported and 400 of them were to Saudi Arabia
tbh I'd rather have frickton of 25mm instead of not so frickton of 40mm but that's just me.
Vatnik false flag post. It’s a very good IFV especially when you have thousands of them. Its replacement is being developed as we speak. I’m about to start on a scale model of one
I'm gonna miss them, but not for cities, where they sucked.
Got any pictures of other models you've made?
VatBlack person astroturfing.
wdym?
You don't think the Bradley is good?
No I do think it’s good. I’m just letting OP know that the replacement is in the works because he seemed concerned
But the M2A2 has been around forever, so what are you talking about?
I know it’s a great IFV. The video showing the crew escaping a mine blast speaks to its survivability and it’s armament is great also
GDLS
If i want to survive a mine, while the vehicle gets destroyed, a MRAP does the job.
An IFV is supposed to stay operational.
Which it did. In the video we see them using their weapons and smoke with no problem. The issue is that tracks or wheels, it doesn't matter, will always lose out to large enough explosions. As per the same situation, the Leo was mobility killed because both of its tracks were taken out. This cannot be avoided, only diminished.
>the weapon still works
>they are just a sitting duck, either having to wait till they get finished off or for evacuation to arrive and run away
>the evacuation in said incidence is also done by Bradleys
>those Bradleys also get hit
>resulting in a huge pile of the most modern Western military gear
Ok name and IFV whose tracks can survive a mine blast. Provide examples
>a huge pile
6 Bradleys, one Leo and a few Russian vehicles?No one even died for Christ's sake.
>6 Bradleys
Out of which 3 were evacuation vehicles.
They came to get the guys out and got lost themselves. Their only job was to drive along the already cleared path, pick up the stranded guys and GTFO.
So is that a fault of the vehicle or the operator?
Use your head.
Of the vehicle.
They were not destroyed by mines.
>drive there -> pick up guys -> run away
This is an infantry fighting vehicle.
It is supposed to be used in battle. It's not an evacuation vehicle, that is much more the job of an MRAP.
So the vehicle drove itself into mines?
Only two of the lost Bradleys got destroyed by mines.
So you are saying that if a troony from the USA drives a Bradley, it is magically able to withstand shitty sovjet mines and RPGs?
People don’t even blink when 6 BMPs get roasted. That’s how you know the Bradley is legendary
Also, what the other poster said. Post IFVs whose tracks are literally impervious to mines. You can't because they don't exist. Runflats can be disabled. Tracks can be disabled. Even frickin' vehicles that hover on cushions of air can be destroyed by mines presuming they are magnetic.
MRAPs are specifically made mine-resistant. They're supposed more survivable than Bradleys against mines. The fact that Bradleys can also survive mines speak volumes on their design's greatness.
Main battle tank tracks can’t survive AT mine hits why do you hold an IFV to such a high standard
>the replacement is in the works
who do you think will win the contract?
why would you need to replace it?
It’s a 40 year old vehicle. Larger airbursting shells are good against drones and that’s what they want to put on it. It can still be good and replaced by something better
The M2A2 ODS-SA variant used in Ukraine gets built since 2002 and is still being produced.
Are you implying that what the USA still builds to this day is outdated?
They’re mostly upgraded old hull beadleys. It’s still better than anything Russia produces and is only outperformed by boutique European IFVs.
The newest variant, the M2A4, isn't even deployed yet.
It started deployment in April 2022 and till it is actually widely distributed, in action and replaced the previous variants, it will be a decade at the minimum.
The replacement of the Bradley is a newer Bradley.
This is the best IFV of the most modern and greatest army of the world. If you like it or not.
The m2a4 is just the most modern variant. They will continue to see service even after the new generation IFVs get adopted. What are you having trouble understanding
Why is the camouflage so bad? What even is the point of having a sold, almost-but-not-quite dirt colour?
Seeing that picture of the disabled Bradleys from mines being spammed all week made me realize just how fricking gay mobility kills are. I can't think of anything more infuriating.
I used to play men of war Frontline mode and I completely understand. War sucks
At least it isn't as shitty as the M113
I hope he gets his wish! Don't give up, Cum Man!
Is there a single confirmed kill of a Bradley in Ukraine yet?
I only see Bradleys getting destroyed and Ukranians presumably dying in them... but i didn't see a single pic of Bradleys actually engaging something or even hitting something.
Yeah there weee steel on steel hits from the Bradley evac video.
May i see it?
How many people or what vehicles did the Bradley kill?
It’s unknown just that it was hitting something. You wont get to see dead bodies from every engagement as you know
>Ukranians presumably dying in them
Big assumption to make given the lack of bodies seen anon
He’s mad Russia is losing ground to bradleys and leopards. If posting equipment losses is a gotcha then Russia has been got
It turned out that it couldn't last for longer than a BMP on the battlefield despite the hopium armour, but also it can't swim like the BMP due to said hopium armour, so it's objectively worse than an IFV from the 1960s.
Oh wait, you said something nice..
Russian IFVs swimming
This makes the bmp look really bad compared to the bradley
Armatard, the last few days must have really hurt.
They spawn on the beach annually to lay eggs, then, exhausted by their journey, die so they can be eaten by their hatchlings.
Smaller vehicle -> Harder to hit from a distance.
The Bradley produces so much embarrassing footage because it is very fat and heavy. A chopper hovering 10 miles away can easily eliminate it.
We never saw such piles of M113s.
BMPs are short and anemic and we see piles of those. Perhaps m113s weren’t used to attack defended positions
>We see piles of those
Yeah because they actually get used in the thousands in actual wars, if the Ukrainians had thousands of Bradleys, clearly we'd see piles of wrecked Bradleys as well.
This is such a funny cope when Anons are like
>But I've seen many destroyed <insert Soviet vehicle here> so it must be bad
Ignoring that statistically there's just so many more BMPs, T-72s, MiGs, etc showing up in wars to get hit in the first place. If Bradleys and Abrams have only been used to curbstomp Iraq and Afghanistan in service with the US military, that depended more on air support than armour, then it's not a big surprise that there aren't smoldering piles of them.
Ukraine is proving that Bradleys, when actually being depended on in an advance, is nothing special and I'm pretty sure Saudi Arabia and the Iraqi army have proven the same of the Abrams as well.
Basically, regardless of what your tank/ifv is, when you're not picking your battles, your tank/ifv is much more likely to be hit and destroyed, the US picks every battle it fights and if it doesn't want to depend on armour when close air support can expect no anti-air resistance, then surprise surprise they don't depend on armour when RPGs are a potential resistance.
Yeah it's always silly when they go "see? those NATO tanks took losses without air support, clearly they're dogshit"
Really no different than claiming your side is winning because a soldier got droned
The Russians even say this. A Bradley is easier to destroy than a M113.
Uhm excuse me Pentagon Wars told me it's an overdesigned mess that isn't good at anything
Literally so old that they don't produce them any more you falseflagging homosexual
Have fun losing to cold war hand-me-downs
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/k/ loves to brag about K/D ratios so much.
We got tons of footage of Bradleys getting taken out.
We have no footage of Bradleys taking out anything.
So the K/D ratio is infinitesimally small.
Desert storm. Ukraine could lose every single Bradley without getting a kill and the Bradley would still have a positive kd
Usually we don't count killing civilians and children in such statistics.
And since Ukraine is the most recent war, where they are actually used in battle, it counts more than a war from 20 years ago.
In Desert Storm, they didn't had drones to take out the most modern gear.
>they didn't had
I can smell you through the screen
If they were useful in a war 20 years ago, but are useless now with 0 confirmed killed.... it means that the US military is 20 years behind.
20 years behind what? A country that can't beat a neighbour with less than a third of their population, a twentieth of their size, whose best weapons almost all come from the US?
Bradley’s have a great reputation from desert storm. They so far outclassed BMPs and t72s.
Reminder that those quadcopter drones that destroyed multiple Bradleys literally only carry an RPG-7 round which got rigged to detonate easier (obviously the drone is traveling slower than when its fired by an RPG).
>Reminder that those quadcopter drones that destroyed multiple Bradleys literally only carry an RPG-7
May I see proof
Proof of what?
Proof that the quadcopter drones are only carrying RPG heads or proof that the Bradleys got destroyed?
Proof that quadcopters carrying rpg heads destroyed a single Bradley
here ya go
Huh crazy, the RPG drone hit the tracks and nothing else?
If you would have said a month ago that Bradleys will be sitting ducks, destroyed by 50 year old mines, RPGs and even quadcopter drones, /k/ jannies would have banned you.
The Ukrainians have already advanced 10km past here, I guarantee most of these vehicles (including the Leopard) will be repaired.
What are you smoking?
Pic related is from that area today. They did not manage to gain anything there.
If you mean the Staromlynovka area, that is somewhere else. And the reports of Ukraine taking Staromlynovka turned out to be false.
5 Leopards got added to the pile today.
One got abandoned in working condition, because the white Ukrainian supersolders got scared and run away.
It's waiting with all the others in the gray zone, while being monitored by russians, ready to kill more Leopards when they arrive.
Post frontline zigger
Damn, thats fricking embarrassing. It would be even more embarrassing if all this shit had been hyped up for months by a bunch of gay obese reddit trannies, and then this was the outcome. Oh wait..
>source: I made it up
Shitposting on /k/ isnt going to change the outcome of the offensive
>Same pictures from 5 days ago
I know, and its still just as fun as five days ago.
No it's not, I was looking at thread about it at least two days ago on /misc/.
Meanwhile fresh Ukrainian kino of vatnigers getting zapped by Ukrainians, vatBlack person blocking and occasionally even sharks come out every day.
Ukraine cucks sound so much more spiteful and angry these days, perhaps it's their faltering confidence in the side they've for some reason formed an emotional dependency on.
Your side might still win anon, it probably won't be that funny and meme worthy by then, but victory for Ukraine is still possible.
>Ukraine cucks sound so much more spiteful and angry these days, perhaps it's their faltering confidence in the side they've for some reason formed an emotional dependency on.
I think most of the people who actually use this board are more spiteful and angry. On account of you homosexuals wrecking this place for 6 straight days.
Dont worry though! Im sure your shitposts are helping at the front!
Ukraine losing is possible, maybe likely, even probably, if unfortunate. The important thing, the thing we want and are really going for, is the absolute neutering of the russian state and people at a minimum, and (hopefully) the ruination of the russian people and state, and if we’re being frank we’re all wishing for the elimination of the russian people and state from the earth forever. While this seems pretty weak, I am becoming more moderate.
Tbqh they could just tell people that Russia has been destroyed and they'd believe it regardless of the facts. The US has near daily mass shootings and literally no one has any idea on how to stop it or even exactly why it's happening and therefore is unlikely to ever stop now, nevertheless this does not show the US to be a failed state in its death throes, ackshually the US is currently having a renaissance in terms of its position on the global stage as the leader of the free world, isn't that nice?
>mass shootings
Yes yes comrade but also we lynch Black folks. On a serious note, the mass shooting definition is 4 or more people shot - 99% of “mass shootings” are black gangbangers shooting other blacks and happen exclusively in a dozen or so zip codes. Would be pretty rudimentary to stop it but the solutions are quite unpalatable.
>You sound so spiteful and angry
>You-you KEK! You angry and spiteful Ukraine KEK Look at these pictures of burned up bradlets mmmmm roasted piggies*~~) hahaha do you feel bad yet are you going to commit suicide yet troony
>Pls don't be spiteful to Russians though
Lol, /misc/Black person have zero self awareness. Literally NPCs.
We're laughing at you. We're not angry at all. As you said, we're winning.
you can almost hear the tears splattering against his desk as he types this lmao
>Y-you're the one who's mad, not me
Lol, ok.
>We're not angry at all
Ah yes, that's why you had to openly state it.
Stay mad, and most importantly, stay cucked.
>if you respond to a post, you're mad
Oh lawdy he seething
what is that picture even supposed to mean?
The picture with the three destroyed finish mine clearing Leopards is from today.
You can read articles about it even in Western media. Because they only had 6 of those in total. Finland sent all they have.
>The picture with the three destroyed finish mine clearing Leopards is from today
Thanks for making me check, you're using the PrepHole filename randomizer
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1667248727697 is a UNIX timestamp that translates to Monday, 31. October 2022 20:38:47.697
Thanks for confirming that it's just one samegay spamming and being afraid of being found out via his filenames
Holy shit, that's a lot of effort to obfuscate himself and make it look like it's not just 1 obsessed homosexual spamming the board 24/7.
>that's a lot of effort
It isn't really, it's one checkbox in PrepHoleX. I never really understood why people use it, especially cause you can just manually rename files as you upload them too, which is helpful when you don't want everyone to start screeching about reddit when you googled an image off imgur. Now I know why they do it, and it's staggeringly pathetic
It's a lot of effort to me. I just post shit. I don't even care if people recognise my "posting style" or whatever or my filenames. I feel like I can stand by anything I've ever said, even if it's just "Yeah I was shitposting for bants, lol"
The idea that people try to hide themselves so they can astroturf the board is alien.
I see what you mean. Yeah it's a real alien mindset, /misc/ just sees boards as territory to be occupied by themselves or whoever they're opposing at the time
He's still doing it look, trying to astroturf the board
He probably even posts on multiple devices. It's so lame.
>He's still doing it look, trying to astroturf the board
Translation:
>”If you don’t agree with me and with Reddit then you’re astroturfing”
>constantly mention reddit
>is from reddit
why do this? oldgays don't constantly call others reddit since this place was flooded with election tourists lmao.
>why do this?
Because your opinions are identical to Reddit on this topic
>t, piyavka subhuman
Imagine "bradley" or "leopard" in place of abrams
Anon those pictures are real and from Iraq 2’s IEDs
Yes, but I meant from the Ukraine War
>to friendly fire
Yeah, I'm sure that make sense that an Abrams gets lost to friendly fire (easily done with the all the electronics, cameras and GPS they have when all moving in one direction in a desert) and then suddenly they start getting fitted with TUSK.
today, I will remind them
Why aren’t they destroyed.
why are you gay?
>Say something nice about it
I'd say it's pretty good
>when combined with more than a few weeks training.
If Americans are arriving in the Bradley burger bus then it has probably been visited by the pallets of freedom earlier.
Im not i’m tired of leftwing subhumans like you
Nice Cavalry Assault Vehicle. Makes a good RV. Beats walking.
>Makes a good recreational vehicle
That's surprisingly a good description of its former usage, Iraq and Afghanistan were basically just holiday resorts for the US Military, a chance to let loose and spend its money and men instead of just accumulating it all the time.
They now come with this plush accessory.
that's a man.
let me lay it out for the ziggers in this thread, you have spent the last year and a half taking L after L, your side has literally not had a good victory once, it's incredibly obvious to any regulars here that you were gasping for air.
you're like an abused dog, you're so incredibly desperate for a treat that you gobble it up like a wild maniac.
the spam posting of the last few days reeks of desperation, you've finally got something you can pat the russian army on the back for, something to at least equal part of the MONTHS of russian routs, vehicle slaughterfests, and general degeneracy.
and instead of taking it with dignity, you go rabid.
this is why nobody can take you seriously, you're like a meth addict that just got their fix and you're deeply hoping that this will be the status quo for you from now on, that the humiliation of russians will finally stop.
repeating the same thing or defaulting to somebody else's answer is not the gotcha that you truly in your heart of hearts believe it is
yep it's broken alright, vatBlack person is so broken that he can't actually form sentences anymore. always funny when you get to the end of their coping and calling others mad and they just resort to copying their previous reply, completely subhuman behaviour.
watch guys i'm gonna poke him again and he'll repeat his reply slop.
vatBlack folk are so predictable when they're angry lmao
looks like i reached the end of the russoid dialogue tree, which is endlessly projecting his own butthurt at being a russian/thirdy onto others.
I'm just wondering where the meme are? There were so many funny memes previously mocking the Russian invasion, now it's just seething and wishing for the extermination of not just all Russians but anyone who has ever had any opinion of Russia other than "it needs to be destroyed.".
The change in attitude from bonk! memes to posting like a woman who got dumped by Russia is funny, just not in a ha-ha kind of way.
there's still plenty of memes, not sure what you're talking about. we can make light of these things and wish for TZD at the same time. this is the kind of thing that happens when you are incredibly incompetent, but also incredibly spiteful and willing to invade others to make them as miserable as they are. russia should have by all means won this with the resources at their disposal, but the very fiber of their souls is what thwarted that for them.
I have nothing good to say about that fricking death-trap.
I worked at a "defense contractor" who was retrofitting fire suppression systems in those rolling shitboxes. Two things: look up the controversy about the earlier fire suppression systems causing the deaths of crew members. Second, Halon can kill you, and it isn't a dignified way to go. Another fun fact: ask anyone who has ever spent time in an earlier version how much they enjoyed the fumes from the overcharging batteries (hence the need for an overkill fire suppression system).
ukraine lost 40 Bradley before they even reached russian defence lines
>15%
When you put it that way, it sounds even worse
What a piece of shit
It’s great
I have new found respect for BMPs and BTRs after seeing the bradley get exposed in combat tbh
the modern btr is alright and have performed well. bmps are dogshit and should all be scrapped and replaced.
What's the deal with both the BMP and the BTR also existing, what's the benefit in having an APC and a separate IFV? Other than cost?
Latest BTRs have the same 30mm cannons, you can fit anti-tank missiles to anything, so I dunno what a BMP adds as an IFV to their APC?
Oh no no no no