Better to have illegals with guns AND citizens with guns than citizens without guns because illegals don't give a shit, at least the ones who actively commit crimes.
You seem to think that illegal immigrants give a shit about the law in the first place
Pro tip- if they gave a shit about the law they wouldn't have come here illegally.
That said, yes, the Bill of Rights should protect even non-citizens of the United States.
Non American countries can do whatever the frick they want. But anyone on American soil should be protected by it regardless of if they are a citizen, tourist, illegal immigrant, or even, may allah forgive me for saying this, a politician
Freedom is not optional.
Wherever an American has trod there is now America.
All the world must convert.
Every tongue shall confess the 10 Amendments and every bell shall ring for freedom!
1 month ago
Anonymous
I thought they were the 10 amendments.
1 month ago
Anonymous
That's what I said.
cool ill go to the range and shoot some shotguns before i buy it
[...]
hmmmmmm nyo
>nyo
Suit yourself
1 month ago
Anonymous
You can't even mention the Black folk or israelites without getting fired and losing your lively hood/cancelled. You can't own whatever gun you want. There's all these gunlaws preventing people from owning what they really want. The "murrica is free" is an illusion. I experienced MORE freedom traveling to Mexico and Afghanistan than in the israeliteSA where they have us squeezed for every fricking cent.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Why hate so much? We are talking about guns. No need to be upset and hating.
1 month ago
Anonymous
In Mexico where guns are banned for anyone who isn't a narco or Afghanistan under Shariah Law. Truly both are freer than this oppressive Soviet level land that let's me buy an AR-15 with just a fifteen minute ute local background check, and skip church if I so choose.
These represent failures to follow the Destiny that the Lord had clearly manifested before us.
Go forth and make sons of the revolution of all nations!
Ain't nothing wrong with immigrants as long as adhere to the culture and traditions of their new home. By them owning firearms pushes them closer to being an American.
You need a handgun, a shotgun, and a rifle. In the unlikely event 2 of those breaks or are otherwise unavailable to you for whatever reason, you have extra guns. If you have access to all three, you get a good mixture of utility across all three platforms.
Additional weapons on top of that are nice to have, but not necessary.
moron
Shotgun and handgun are minimum, a rifle is only useful if you need to shoot something beyond 100yd (most people never do) shotguns are incredibly versatile, far moreso than any rifle. Now seethe and rage as much as you want but you're wrong >mouse-raccoon = birdshot >groundhog-deer = buckshot >finch-goose/crane/turkey = birdshot/steelshot >deer-moose = slug >folks = any
oh yeah that one's fine
go for it, absolutely
the 1887 is the one you don't really want
1 month ago
Anonymous
cool ill go to the range and shoot some shotguns before i buy it
No, you should buy a Mossberg 590 for 500-600 and spend the savings on a correctly sized Wolff extra-power spring and a low-drag follower.
This will turn it into the perfect pump shotty.
No, you should buy a Mossberg 590 for 500-600 and spend the savings on a correctly sized Wolff extra-power spring and a low-drag follower.
This will turn it into the perfect pump shotty.
No, but it is all I WANT for HD. Nothing comfier than a nice blued-and-wood 870 or Mossberg 500 in the corner of the bedroom with a .38 snub for pocket carrying around the house.
Shotguns make for poor home defense guns, as they're too long, too heavy, have excessive recoil, small ammo capacity, are slow to reload and pumps have a slow rate of fire (and the danger of short-stroking).
Every American ought to have a version of pic related; a handgun for immediate access and outdoors concealability and an "assault" rifle for very serious situations.
A home defense shotgun isn't much longer than AR15, recoil is perfectly manageable unless you're a midget with no arm strength, ammo capacity is usually fine enough as you can constantly reload between lulls. Furthermore, a decent pump-action will be extremely reliable, has a greater chance of striking a target at close range due to spread, require little training, little chance of overpenetration unless you're firing slugs. There's plenty of benefits- a pump action shotgun in the hands of a person who doesn't shoot much is going to be much deadlier than an AR in the hands of a person who doesn't shoot much.
>Wrong on all counts. >t. finds 12ga recoil totally uncontrollable.
what? genuinely, I've handed shotguns to sub 100 lbs, sub 5' Asian girls and they can handle them. how are you less capable than that.
>Bill of needs
Shall
You like letting illegal immigrants have guns i see
I want EVERYONE to have guns, worldwide.
Typical lolbert
Based
>I only want gun rights for groups I approve of and trust the government to decide who that is
>hello, yes, I love 4473s
commies get the rope.
>Why yes i love giving my opposition access to weapons
I can't kill them unless they have guns though
>I can't kill them unless they have guns though
he doesn't know bros
Commies killing unarmed people, and authoritarianism is kinda the only constants of communism.
>t. yes daddy government, please control every part of my life, I can't make decisions like an adult because I'm too busy jerking off to e-girl porn.
pic related.
You're projecting a awful lot
Better to have illegals with guns AND citizens with guns than citizens without guns because illegals don't give a shit, at least the ones who actively commit crimes.
You seem to think that illegal immigrants give a shit about the law in the first place
Pro tip- if they gave a shit about the law they wouldn't have come here illegally.
That said, yes, the Bill of Rights should protect even non-citizens of the United States.
The Bill of Rights must be instituted globally.
Non American countries can do whatever the frick they want. But anyone on American soil should be protected by it regardless of if they are a citizen, tourist, illegal immigrant, or even, may allah forgive me for saying this, a politician
Freedom is not optional.
Wherever an American has trod there is now America.
All the world must convert.
Every tongue shall confess the 10 Amendments and every bell shall ring for freedom!
I thought they were the 10 amendments.
That's what I said.
>nyo
Suit yourself
You can't even mention the Black folk or israelites without getting fired and losing your lively hood/cancelled. You can't own whatever gun you want. There's all these gunlaws preventing people from owning what they really want. The "murrica is free" is an illusion. I experienced MORE freedom traveling to Mexico and Afghanistan than in the israeliteSA where they have us squeezed for every fricking cent.
Why hate so much? We are talking about guns. No need to be upset and hating.
In Mexico where guns are banned for anyone who isn't a narco or Afghanistan under Shariah Law. Truly both are freer than this oppressive Soviet level land that let's me buy an AR-15 with just a fifteen minute ute local background check, and skip church if I so choose.
These represent failures to follow the Destiny that the Lord had clearly manifested before us.
Go forth and make sons of the revolution of all nations!
Ain't nothing wrong with immigrants as long as adhere to the culture and traditions of their new home. By them owning firearms pushes them closer to being an American.
>Ain't nothing wrong with immigrants
only the women
gross
All these flavors and you still want your trailer park bawd
enjoy you fat goblinas
>.t
that's not a semi
Only morons and larping homosexuals use semi-auto shotguns
Factual post check em
>tfw missed the latest batch of cheap surplus remington 870 police magnums
It hurts bros.
>wood
I like the Mossberg better
do they still make them in a blued finish? my old ithaca is blued but not everyone buys old guns
No.
Just the works parkerazation imaginable.
Insta rust.
i hate modern guns! i hate modern guns! i hate modern guns!
want a nice blued finish? pay 3000 dollars for a historical replica frick you
Bluing isn't much better in rust protection I have many a blued fudd gun.
i dont think bluing is inherently better i just think its nicer. i don't think it should be standard i just wish it was an option
There's no multicaliber takedown Mauser action rifle in the picture. That's what I would actually want to have, in two or three different chamberings.
This.
Let me guess, you "NEED" a good gun??
You need a handgun, a shotgun, and a rifle. In the unlikely event 2 of those breaks or are otherwise unavailable to you for whatever reason, you have extra guns. If you have access to all three, you get a good mixture of utility across all three platforms.
Additional weapons on top of that are nice to have, but not necessary.
This, minus the shotgun
moron
Shotgun and handgun are minimum, a rifle is only useful if you need to shoot something beyond 100yd (most people never do) shotguns are incredibly versatile, far moreso than any rifle. Now seethe and rage as much as you want but you're wrong
>mouse-raccoon = birdshot
>groundhog-deer = buckshot
>finch-goose/crane/turkey = birdshot/steelshot
>deer-moose = slug
>folks = any
>using birdshot on people
I agree with your other points but 555-come-on-now
>groundhog
>buckshot
I have never done this, but i imagine there being very little left of the groundhog
You gonna eat the groundhog?
I'm willing to bet that things shot with a rifle from <100yds still die, anon.
nah, I need an anti tank gun for my skinwalker needs
should i buy a winchester 1987 12 guave for 800 usd
i have never fired a shotgun only pistols
they're fricking terrible but also they're very very funny so yes
make sure you get a shotgun that doesn't suck as well
why are they terrible i just like the way the action works
range israelitery has stopped me but fine i will
I misread your post, what fricking gun are you talking about, 1987 isn't a relevant number for any shotgun
1897 lmao
oh yeah that one's fine
go for it, absolutely
the 1887 is the one you don't really want
cool ill go to the range and shoot some shotguns before i buy it
hmmmmmm nyo
go rent one at a range.
remember to keep it tight into your shoulder when shooting.
No, you should buy a Mossberg 590 for 500-600 and spend the savings on a correctly sized Wolff extra-power spring and a low-drag follower.
This will turn it into the perfect pump shotty.
>winchester 1987
Did you mean 1887 or 1897? Either way, yes
Huh OP there was a bug and posted the wrong image.
No, but it is all I WANT for HD. Nothing comfier than a nice blued-and-wood 870 or Mossberg 500 in the corner of the bedroom with a .38 snub for pocket carrying around the house.
According to the senile zionist who is now called the commander.
A shotgun just works.
It'll always be there when you need it.
And no one likes to be on the other end of one.
speak for yourself
Kek! Tragically underrated!
But not as tragic as being married to Courtney Love.
It's all I need for birds and fowl, yes
>other guns have other uses
870 Wingmasters are so kino I feel offended I don't currently own one.
that looks like a stevens 77 crossed with an 870
Shotguns make for poor home defense guns, as they're too long, too heavy, have excessive recoil, small ammo capacity, are slow to reload and pumps have a slow rate of fire (and the danger of short-stroking).
Every American ought to have a version of pic related; a handgun for immediate access and outdoors concealability and an "assault" rifle for very serious situations.
>Shotguns make for poor home defense guns
followed by manlet cope.
just gonna keep loving shotguns.
checked
I think he meant compared to other options. A suppressed handgun is best for home defense. A shotgun is best for land and ranch defense.
A home defense shotgun isn't much longer than AR15, recoil is perfectly manageable unless you're a midget with no arm strength, ammo capacity is usually fine enough as you can constantly reload between lulls. Furthermore, a decent pump-action will be extremely reliable, has a greater chance of striking a target at close range due to spread, require little training, little chance of overpenetration unless you're firing slugs. There's plenty of benefits- a pump action shotgun in the hands of a person who doesn't shoot much is going to be much deadlier than an AR in the hands of a person who doesn't shoot much.
Wrong on all counts.
> has a greater chance of striking a target at close range due to spread
Confirmed for no-gunz zoomer.
>Wrong on all counts.
>t. finds 12ga recoil totally uncontrollable.
what? genuinely, I've handed shotguns to sub 100 lbs, sub 5' Asian girls and they can handle them. how are you less capable than that.
i'm glad you think that you'll be fighting immobile wooden doors five feet away when someone breaks into your house to rape your twink ass
>has a greater chance of striking a target at close range due to spread,
Don't be dumb.
Tattooed brown girl IS trailer park bawd you stupid dolt.
Sorry, I can't concealed carry that.
Projective avatar posting is pathetic.
And getting 0 pussy is way more pathetic. Do you even own guns?