Third Chechen War?

Why isn’t Chechnya fighting the Russians again when their mortal enemy is literally at their weakest since 1996?

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    All of the Chechens in a rebellious mood are fighting on behalf of Ukraine lol

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Its kinda interesting to see how the things will develop after this war.
      Many pissed off groups from Belarus and Russia are getting practical experience in Ukrainian foreign legion, and Russia will be seriously weakened.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        If I were Luka, I would announce my retirement and beginning of a Belarussian transition to democracy as soon as Putin's government falls from power. I'm nearing the end of my life anyway, better to have the last chapter of my legacy be on the winning team.

        If I were Putin, I'd just give my own pistol.a blowjob because I've already sealed my own fate.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Lukashenko literally just BTFO'ed the latest crop of homosexual liberashkas in 2020, he's not retiring ever and after him people will vote for his son, who is pretty based himself.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            It was russian loaned paramilitary that broke those protests.
            Luka does not have enough personal power to stop them again if Russia has too much troubles back home to send them again.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            It was russian loaned paramilitary that broke those protests.
            Luka does not have enough personal power to stop them again if Russia has too much troubles back home to send them again.

            top kek gays, some of people who left farm right now work in ukraine army or train somewhere waiting for day when monke fail. Pussia will be focus on getting own shit together after war while belarus left alonewith bunch of pissed people who know in which direction fire boomstick. u know, you can make a lot of shit with soldiers which best battle is making black eye for wife.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Putin loves living, just look at all the ridiculous measures he takes to avoid covid, that's why all the nuke threats are laughable. But that is also why he's so dangerous, since he likes to live so much, once he realizes he has no way out he might really try to push the button to take everyone down with him.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            he has zero power, just like our presidents putin is just a face to lay blame on and nothing moar

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah. Although, if Putin croaks, having Wagner and the Kadyrovites as independent militaries that have their own ambitions and feuds with the military establishment is probably more likely to kick off a civil war at first.

        But a reformist wing could gain traction too and these guys will be the core of that force.

        Taking protestors and dissidents and pressing them into front line service so they can recruit within the military is also historically dumb, but what Russia has done. Same with conscripting older men first. Older men are much more likely to mutiny against incompetent commands.

        It's a recipie for chaos if Putin dies. His legal successor has no real power base and won't hold on, while there is also no infrastructure for free fair elections. I would expect the ultra nationalists to overplay their hand immediately and spark a backlash by reformers and the old gaurd military Boomers.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >/k/opers are at the point where the only thing to maybe hurt Russia is Putins death
          >meanwhile Artyemovsk, Dvorichne and Torske are being liberated and AFU deaths are approaching 200k

          nu-K everyone.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            just 2 more decades and bakhmut will fall

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Meds

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >Dvorichne
            A fricking town of 3 and half thousand people?
            This is what you choose to showcase as a victory after a year of heavy fighting and they havent even taken it.
            >Muh KDR
            Lmao, youre worse than mutts talking about vietnam or afhganistan. Holy shit russia is an embarrasment

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >/k/opers are at the point where the only thing to maybe hurt Russia is Putins death
              >meanwhile Artyemovsk, Dvorichne and Torske are being liberated and AFU deaths are approaching 200k

              nu-K everyone.

              I just decided to google the third AND FINAL one you brought up
              >Torkske population: 894 people
              EIGHT HUNDRED AND NINETY FOUR PEOPLE

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >nu-K
            You are making this too obvious. You keep using it. nu/k/ makes you less noticeable. I recommend saying that.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      They are a minority, le monke is so afraid of a 3rd Chechen war he has been pampering the Chechen leaders for years.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        God it would be amazing to see artillery blow the city up again

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >God it would be amazing to see artillery blow the city up again
          Frick off, Rakesh.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        The Mosque looks like a goddamn casino.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        That's gaudy enough to belong in Vegas.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        so what do they actually do in those buildings or are they just for show like Pyongyang pyramid hotels?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      How come these guys shave

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        The Dzhokhar Dudayev Battalion is not very religious.

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Kadyrov has a pretty firm grip on the country. He has substantial security forces and the hardcore Chechen jihadists all joined ISIS and are in the Syrian desert now.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      What would happen if Kadyrov were removed from the picture?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Country probably fall apart, lot of tribal infighting. Unlikely to result in a cohesive front against Russia, at least not for a while; until the next top dog has been decided.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Not him, but no idea bruv. Kadyrov is pretty popular in Chechnya. The chechens are thoroughly buck broken

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >Kadyrov is pretty popular in Chechnya.

          Anything to back this up?
          All I read is that he's absolutely fricking despised and totally dependent on Russia. This is why he's constantly in move and never sleeps twice in the same place in a row.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >All I read is that he's absolutely fricking despised and totally dependent on Russia.
            And where did you read that? CNN? Vice? Washington Post?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Lukashenko literally just BTFO'ed the latest crop of homosexual liberashkas in 2020, he's not retiring ever and after him people will vote for his son, who is pretty based himself.

            Chechens are just like Russians, as long as they have food on the table, feeling safe and their normal daily routines don’t get fricked etc then they’re pretty happy and don’t care about their leadership. But if let’s say things start to getting worse then they would absolutely throw Kadyrov under the bus.

            Kadyrov is just bought by Putin and Kremlin. He has used that money to enriched himself and his clan, built some ‘cool’ buildings in Grozny and have a big security apparatus how crack down on the opposition plus follow along Putins tail.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          He's not particularly popular, he's just a strongman that did a good job consolidating power and filling the government with his friends and family.

          Also, with how Chechnya's elections work, Kadyrov is not directly voted by the people, but by the Parliament, which very conveniently unanimously reelects him every time his term is up.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          There are at least 3 entirely Chechen forces fighting in Ukraine right now.

          Two are part of Ukrainian forces, the Dzhokhar Dudayev Battallion and the Sheikh Mansur Battallion.
          The third is an armed unit of the exiled Republic of Ichkeria itself, whose Prime Minister is Akhmed Zakayev, called the Separate Special Purpose Battalion (OBOP).

          Zakayev is currently in Ukraine himself since last year. He's even visiting places like Bakhmut meeting troops fighting Russia.

          https://twitter.com/clashreport/status/1618241279724232710
          https://twitter.com/clashreport/status/1618245199536300035
          https://twitter.com/CalibreObscura/status/1611675272444784642

          >Kadyrov is pretty popular in Chechnya. The chechens are thoroughly buck broken

          Most Chechens are apolitical. That doesn't mean everyone likes him. They aren't causing a ruckus because since Kadyrov sends so many of his own men into war, they don't need to draft random people into being conscripts. If they did try so, there would probably be major pushback.

          https://i.imgur.com/GqLo7sM.jpg

          ...this is what Grozny looks like. The Chechnyans are basically holding the rest of Russia hostage, but as long as the russian ultranationalists get their goatfricker death squads out of it, they don't care

          >...this is what Grozny looks like. The Chechnyans are basically holding the rest of Russia hostage, but as long as the russian ultranationalists get their goatfricker death squads out of it, they don't care
          This is Russian propaganda that just won't go away, will it?. The actual reality is that Russia takes oil and gas from the North Caucasus and the Caspian Sea alike. If they were independent they would be keeping it for themselves.

          Why do you think Hitler invaded the Soviet Union during WW2? Germany's grand plan was to tap into the oil wells in the North Caucasus.

          Part of the reason the Second Chechen War broke out it because they wanted to expand to Dagestan and the Caspian, which would have given what was otherwise a landlocked Chechnya access to not only fishing resources and its oil and gas but also allow it to trade with other countries easily.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >Why do you think Hitler invaded the Soviet Union during WW2? Germany's grand plan was to tap into the oil wells in the North Caucasus.

            Picrel.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              weird considering vast majority of germany's oil was synthetically made from coal tar. he shouldve just stopped at Dnieper

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >weird considering vast majority of germany's oil was synthetically made from coal tar
                and the germans of course very famously maintained a fuel surplus throughout the entire war and definitely didn't start running into massive fuel shortages as the war in Russia stalled out

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >weird considering vast majority of germany's oil was synthetically made from coal tar
                and the germans of course very famously maintained a fuel surplus throughout the entire war and definitely didn't start running into massive fuel shortages as the war in Russia stalled out

                Germany was under a blockade that was gradually getting worse.
                While I'm not privy to German energy resources, I'm assuming the Axis forces in the south and east didn't have nearly as much access to it as the north did.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              tbf that was more of a plan b. Plan a was a straight up knock out with final phase capturing of leningrad, moscow and Kiev. It mostly worked too btw as with the loss of ukraine alone famine was guaranteed by 1942. It had nearly half of the total agricultural output and the vatnik union was borderline starving even with it already.

              Leningrad was mostly isolated and only objective they missed was Moscow as the main railway hub which would cut all the major isolated branches onto their own. Vatnik union looked big on the map but the rest outside these three key nodes were either empty siberian colonial oblasts, unreliable central asian desert-steppes or feral mountain churkas with questionable allegiance. I am not even going to mention what changed and stopped them from completely falling apart in 42/43

              Also germans tapping into the caucasus oil was always a pipe dream. Even if the single digit, over extended recon units made through the feral churka mountain tribes what was stopping from allies positioning bomber fleets and invader armies in Iran proceeding to destroy the already underdeveloped Baku infrastructure

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Also germans tapping into the caucasus oil was always a pipe dream. Even if the single digit, over extended recon units made through the feral churka mountain tribes what was stopping from allies positioning bomber fleets and invader armies in Iran proceeding to destroy the already underdeveloped Baku infrastructure
                Even if the British and US sabotaged or took over the oil wells in Azerbaijan by way of Iran, they wouldn't be able to do it in an Axis-held North Caucasus which is separated by a mountain range.
                They could have maybe extended into Dagestan which has a flat coastline, but not the other areas which are entirely mountainous.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >Republic of Ichkeria, whose Prime Minister is Akhmed Zakayev, called the Separate Special Purpose Battalion (OBOP).
            >Zakayev is currently in Ukraine himself since last year. He's even visiting places like Bakhmut meeting troops fighting Russia
            Various interviews:

            Feb 2022

            May 2022

            July 2022 (English)

            Sep 2022

            https://youtube.com/watch?v=56wZDRi02I8

            Oct 2022
            https://youtube.com/watch?v=8ZzOZmkmt3U
            https://youtube.com/watch?v=Et6GHryPKsk
            https://youtube.com/watch?v=AXvsqhnFEEc
            https://youtube.com/watch?v=MSbgKDr1c5w
            https://youtube.com/watch?v=FojjgALxLFM
            https://youtube.com/watch?v=fFtP0KWuaoY

            Nov 2022
            https://youtube.com/watch?v=QfOiR3rVLmk
            https://youtube.com/watch?v=SZ88tngNWgE
            https://youtube.com/watch?v=TXS2SFuJFN8

            Dec 2022
            https://youtube.com/watch?v=yuMwksuhRUI
            https://youtube.com/watch?v=Zx_uoZai0N8
            https://youtube.com/watch?v=AX5463FCq-Q

            Jan 2023
            https://youtube.com/watch?v=l_3HDUiBoJg
            https://youtube.com/watch?v=t-k3HOa8Kig
            https://youtube.com/watch?v=SHeWdVkLPK0
            https://youtube.com/watch?v=DK0tu4-FG-Q

            Feb 2023
            https://youtube.com/watch?v=XAF9vo9k8k0
            https://youtube.com/watch?v=2_9wvH98NPs
            https://youtube.com/watch?v=FaNhgq6DzJk
            https://youtube.com/watch?v=xiN6rR_9T9I
            https://youtube.com/watch?v=Zx7IlxmWDfY
            https://youtube.com/watch?v=MO893QDIzB8
            https://youtube.com/watch?v=DUlFMFl2vbQ
            https://youtube.com/watch?v=DnQKfONm4KA

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Zakayevs role in this war is underappreciated, he is re-building the Chechen army in Ukraine while also being politically active. He has connections in UK, Ukraine and Poland, Kadyrov fears him.

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    they are being paid not to. Chechnya's GDP per capita is substantially worse than most of Africa, and yet...

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      ...this is what Grozny looks like. The Chechnyans are basically holding the rest of Russia hostage, but as long as the russian ultranationalists get their goatfricker death squads out of it, they don't care

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        lel, that looks so hilariously out of place.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          what is your dream mosque?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >.this is what Grozny looks like

        Those are just a few buildings built by Kadyrov to assert dominance.
        Actual Grozny looks like bumfrick Russian town, just with mosques instead of churches and women wearing Islamic dresses.

        Grozny is covered by Google Street View so you can see it yourself

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I think it goes without saying that when it's said that Russia is "paying off Chechnya" what they mean is paying off the few people who might potentially lead an insurgency against Russia, primarily Kadyrov.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Wow Jimmy, your mom lets you have six whole skyscrapers?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Looks pretty desolate.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Looks as out of place as these clock tower abominations the saudis build in mecca. Bunch of slums and low-rises and in the middle some glitzy prestige project.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Fricking hell, that's disgusting.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              just one nuke during mecca, please. it would be so easy

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              https://i.imgur.com/o1xzKug.gif

              Fricking hell, that's disgusting.

              Agreed that the clock towers are disgusting, but I don't think those are slums and your pic is from 2015. The landscape must be completely different now.
              The Saudis have built hotels there but that's not how the pilgrimage is supposed to be performed, and is the opposite of how things are meant to be done. All social classes and backgrounds are supposed to wear the same clothes and perform the same rituals under the same conditions.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Pretty much a microcosm of Saudi...anything. One bright, shiny, gaudy piece of shit, and an entire rest of the shithole. It's like that disgusting, 'fancy' looking plastic and epoxy furniture they have in the front of a shitty Chinese mall outlet. Overpriced, nobody actually buys it, and right behind it is a hill of pigshit.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Why doesn't the Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug fight for its independence?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Nenets themselves are dirt poor. The high GDP per capita comes from Russian gas companies extracting on their clay. Beside the fact that there's no chance they'd win against Russia militarily, I think plenty of them would prefer true federalism over total independence.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Is the northern part just 100.000 miner with 100 billionairs or something?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Norilsk nickel factory. The owner boyar has all the actual wealth btw. Something like 13 billion USD in known assets if I remember correctly

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Chechnya's GDP per capita is substantially worse than most of Africa
      But you don't have Africa on the map to compare it to, just...
      Oh
      oh

  4. 1 year ago
    Mandic

    >Why isn’t Chechnya fighting

    Most of them have wised up.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Sig Romeo 4T’s

      At least they are getting decent optics.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        the only decent optics are eotech

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Based gramps feeling alive again but this time with a grown family and no shits left to give.

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    because kadyrov was bought by putin (NWO israelites)

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Akhmed Zakayev is the only head of state who really outchea, really in the field inspecting the situation in Bakhmut. That's why the Russians are struggling to take the city.

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Chechens hate Black folk and guess which countries are worshiping Black folk

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Well Putin has been sucking a lot of african wiener lately

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      do you really think chechens care about black people when most have never seen one in their lives?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      You're projecting.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Chechens hate Russia
      Correct, and water is wet.

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    because the war caused mass starvation and total economic turmoil for Chechnya. Ukraine owes a shit ton of money and it won't be able to pay back either. Ukrainians will get to enjoy life like Argentina are when they win/lose their war.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Could be worse, could be Russia. Nah but seriously if they are going into economic turmoil at least they have the independence and allies to go through it with new allies. One thing I cannot wait for is how the world and Ukraine will rebuild well, Ukraine. Hopefully time is put into it to help the people there because like Argentina its a place with opportunity only if used right

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    they are currently helping their Turkish brothers so they don't have time

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