kek
for those out of the loop, look up "Izhevsk" on twatter for some delicious boombooms
for some reason, this topic causes insane sneeding among jannies
I concur, this is perhaps the most weapon oriented thread in a long time. And no way in all about a humiliating explosion at one of the last factories that produces said weapon.
If I were to invade my neighbor, my favorite weapon would be a long range precious missile. I'm a sucker for the classics like ye olde SCUD
Absolutely. And, of course, historical weapons such as swords or muskets can be discussed too!
Just because we refer to a weapon's production in the past tense (even, indeed, if the transition from present to past tense was sudden and violent) doesn't mean we can't have a productive and educational discussion.
You are wrong, Sir, my cousin Vijay from Kolkatta thinks this is an off-topic thread
So, we both did the needful and reported it in order to preserve the high quality of posts on PrepHole dot organisation.
Oh yeah, because posting the ten-trillionth recycled wojak and appending every second word with -troon is peak comedy.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Beats another deleted thread.
(Jeez, this must be how Russian bloggers think. I might start rationalizing bumsex soon.)
Gokubro btw.
You have to go back.
3 months ago
Anonymous
EPIC catchphrase my dude, well meme'd!
3 months ago
Anonymous
Hit me with another ancient recycled catchphrase my man, at this rate those tired old lines will live longer than a vatnik missile plant
3 months ago
Anonymous
good morning, Sir
I agree with you, this is a very low quality thread and those are not funny posts. In fact, they remind me of the website reddit.com which I never visit.
Furthermore, this thread is off-topic because JSC Votkinsk Machine Building Plant manufactures agricultural and mining equipment and not -11/SS-1B Scud-A and B SRBMs; RT-21M/SS-20 Saber and SS-23 Spider IRBMs; RT-21 (SS-16 Sinner), RT-2PM (SS-25 Sickle) and RT-2UTTH Topol-M (SS-27) intercontinental ballistic missiles at all.
I think that this thread should be reported to the administrators of four channel dot org.
>Wordplay is now considered reddit humor
OK, how about something more in line with your intellectual capacity.
Fart. Poop. Butts. Poopy farting butts. Or would you prefer a farting moron getting kicked in the balls?
3 months ago
Anonymous
only if the farting moron is a onions wojak and the kicker is chad pepe
3 months ago
Anonymous
I'd prefer not having to read shitty puns made by NPCs.
Do everyone a favor and have a nice day.
3 months ago
Anonymous
We all know what channel he watches.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Why don't you tell him to touch grass too, you fricking tourist.
3 months ago
Anonymous
You’re right, we need more trannies and basedjack edits
3 months ago
Anonymous
And of course the /misc/troon has to start railing about trannies. Jsut kys, tourist.
I only laugh at wojacks that have a ton of symbols of stuff I don’t like on them, with at least 3 injections stuck in them, right there, that’s comedy. I joined the site in 2016 im a bit of an oldgay
*sigh*
Imagine going from attached pic to "lol the chad sadBlack folk managed to start a fire in one of your cargo ships". Clown World believers still haven't figured out the joke is on them.
It is no big deal, the DPRK can show them how to rebuild and even provide the equipment. Given how good the KN-23 is the new facility will be making better missiles than before so really it is a net gain for Russia.
So... how big of a boom was it exactly? And how big of a deal is it?
>biggest/big rocket engine plant
yeah but was it THAT big of a boom or is it business as usual after 5 hours of firefighting and a little bit of welding?
I saw another clip of this and in it the fire went out super fast, so I'm really torn.
On the one hand, if it were a normal test people probably wouldn't be filming it, the boom clearly alerted people. But would a rocket fuel explosion burn out so quickly? A strong, continuous burn and then dark again in a couple seconds?
Assuming it didn't detonate, then the burn would continue as long as there's fuel, which wouldn't last long in an uncontained uncontrolled fashion, and then subsequent flames would be just from the burning surroundings.
Yeah, I could reason that:
-it's very far away and the fire is fricking big
-the fuel consumes very quickly
-the remaining fires once the fuel is consumed are comparatively small and not seen from such a distance
but I really have no knowledge on the matter and it might be a legit test for all I know.
I love how their cope is "we're testing an engine burn". At 10PM.
Imagine if that was an engine test, that'd mean their ICBMs are fricked and really would blow up on launch.
>Haha it was a normal engine burn nothing to worry about haha
The fact they were trying to spin the narrative so quickly tells you something big went up in smoke.
I suspect they decided to test one of the new missiles they got from either the Iranians or the Norks and the thing not only blew up, but took the whole factory with it. This is mainly because if you look at where this happened on a map
https://i.imgur.com/XcrKASK.jpg
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For anyone curious, they took place far, far away from the frontlines, so it can't possibly be the Ukies and the Russians surely wouldn't have just sent the rocket scientists to the frontline and replaced them with steppe nomads, that would be silly. 🙂
it's just too far away for it to be done by anything except a long range fighter or bomber, so it has to be self-inflicted somehow.
Ok I love the SMOOKER and such but c'mon it can't be THAT bad.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>it can't be THAT bad
3 months ago
Anonymous
I've been out of the loop for a year but... Jesus Christ what am I looking at here?
3 months ago
Anonymous
It's a picture taken by a ukrainian drone after they dropped another grenade in the famous suicide hole by Bakhmut IIRC.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I remember watching the first suicide hole vid.. it's weird to see how common this practice has become.
3 months ago
Anonymous
To be fair Russia already had one of the highest suicide rates in the world so, considering the amount of men Russia sent to die in Ukraine, it was inevitable we'd seen a lot of suicides, especially considering how trench warfare isn't exactly conducive to depression and suicidal ideations.
3 months ago
Anonymous
With the rate they're trying to suppress its spread, I suspect it may be worse than the usual factory fire. It ultimately depends on where they stored the fuel, because a warehouse full of rocket fuel going up is bad, but it's not "Holy shit, we've got to nuke it from the internet" bad.
The most likely scenario is that some bumbling fool accidently started a fire, the non-functioning fire-suppression system did it's thing and Russia lost either a bunch of Nork or Iranian missiles in the fire, which wouldn't be so bad if they weren't paying for them in gold, which is bad because Russia's currency is now backed by gold so they may have sunk the value of the ruble even further and got absolutely nothing out of it.
3 months ago
Anonymous
No what I mean is, it's more likely it was some ukranian deep strike, rather than it just being all on Russia and friends.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I'm on the fence about it to be honest, because it's over a thousand kilometres away from the frontlines and over 500km away from the nearest bordering country.
IF this was a Ukie deep strike, then it must have been done by saboteurs in country, because the only way they'd get the range necessary would be either firing an ICBM of their own or using a long-range fighter jet. If this turns out to be the case, then there is nowhere in Russia that is safe.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Iran and NK decided this is the best and only time to get important technology that russia should NEVER part with but is so desperate from the special needs operation >Sabotage the weapons, anonymously tip off the ukrainians to perform a diversionary sabotage attack >Russia loses everything and need to bargain for weapons again but oh no they are a bit short on them....it can't be helped but we will need this tech that you don't want to part with, no problem if you don't want to, guess that SNO isn't going to work out winkwink.
The soviet union, in its infinite wisdom, moved a shitton of ukrainians out of ukraine and scattered them in the farthest reaches of the union. There are probably more ukrainians to the east of the urals than there are west.
It's not. Based on the time delay for the shock wave hitting the cameraman, the "explosion" is only about 3km away. I can easily believe that it was a test firing that went wrong.
Here's an example of a similar solid rocket engine test gone wrong, as performed by your favorite butt-buddies.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/expert-last-weeks-blast-in-central-israel-was-a-solid-rocket-fuel-test/
Anon he replied to, i don't know if i believe the vatnig story ( i never do on principle) but people are pretending this is some nuke tier explosion when it's pretty small for what they claim it is and immediately goes out as well. Just does not make sense. It feels like forced propaganda if i am being honest.
3 months ago
Anonymous
With how much suppression is going on, and how advanced Russian solid motor technology is (not very, since they're STILL developing UDMH/Tetroxide rockets) I'm doubtful they have a solid motor that can blow to produce a fireball even a tenth the size of the AJ by itself. This lends more credence to the idea that something went horribly wrong.
And yet somehow each of them saw far, far more Russians die than Ukrainians. And not a single NATO soldier. In fact, at the rate it happened, Ukraine will in fact exterminate Russias entire male population before Russia manages to take even just the remainde rof the Donbas. Curious, that.
>Mariupol, Bakhmut and Avdeevka
Each one is smaller, closer to the pre-February 24th frontline, and takes longer to fall than the last. I'm sure this in no way reflects broader trends.
Yeah, it's literally right on the doorstep of their largest city and has been for 10 years now.
Keep in mind that they have every advantage here with a miniscule supply chain between the Russian Front and their storage areas, easy access to hospitals and enough shelter to properly mass and carry out large scale attacks.
How about this for a point of discussion; as of this morning it's the factory that was making it, rather than the factory that is making it, and that's funny.
>Taking a small town reduced to rubble that was a forward delaying position after months of fighting and suffering tens of thousands of casualties at rates exceeding 10:1 is actually a good deal, totally worth losing a major strategic arms manufacturing site!
Wow, the zigger cope is truly through the roof. Damn factory must be a writeoff.
Aon almost every engineer, technician and scientist involved with Russian missile projects died in mysterious circumstances last year, they might actually need to bring in Norks and Iranians to rebuild.
>Taking a small town reduced to rubble that was a forward delaying position after months of fighting and suffering tens of thousands of casualties at rates exceeding 10:1 is actually a good deal, totally worth losing a major strategic arms manufacturing site!
Wow, the zigger cope is truly through the roof. Damn factory must be a writeoff.
Going by the size of the explosion, it looks like the storage for the rocket fuel went up. Going by standard Russian building practices, the storage shed was probably right next to, or in the same building, as the production line, so the factory is probably going to be out of commission for months if not just outright destroyed.
>Like hydrazine and fuming red nitric acid.
That sounds a bit dangerous. But I am no expert.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Fuming red nitric acid isn't that dangerous, at least compared to the hyper-toxic and cancer-inducing hydrazine.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Fuming red nitric acid isn't that dangerous
MFW
3 months ago
Anonymous
Well, relatively speaking, given hydrazine is involved
3 months ago
Anonymous
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Red fuming nitric acid being "not that dangerous" means it will only spontaneously combust/explode when coming into contact with water (such as the moisture in people's eyes), and release toxic fumes in the process. Also it's highly corrosive to many metals.
Hydrazine is just a whole other level of awful. That shit fall under the highest possible NFPA health danger rating, and the second-highest reactivity/instability danger rating. (NFPA Health rating 4 is the category where you also find fun stuff like cyanide or hydrofluoric acid.)
Thanks! I just hope it will be good.
3 months ago
Anonymous
https://i.imgur.com/OPqIO3I.jpg
>Like hydrazine and fuming red nitric acid.
That sounds a bit dangerous. But I am no expert.
Red fuming nitric acid being "not that dangerous" means it will only spontaneously combust/explode when coming into contact with water (such as the moisture in people's eyes), and release toxic fumes in the process. Also it's highly corrosive to many metals.
Hydrazine is just a whole other level of awful. That shit fall under the highest possible NFPA health danger rating, and the second-highest reactivity/instability danger rating. (NFPA Health rating 4 is the category where you also find fun stuff like cyanide or hydrofluoric acid.)
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Red fuming nitric acid
I'm sure that they aren't using Inhibited Red Fuming Nitric Acid (IRFNA) but dinitrogen tetroxide (N2O4) that's far nastier and similar to hydrazine. >N2O4 outperforms IRFNA
3 months ago
Anonymous
Red fuming nitric acid already contains dinitrogen tetroxide (mixed with nitric acid), but yeah, I also thing they're using N2O4 as it's hyperbolic when combined with hydrazine. This is going to be fun.
3 months ago
Anonymous
*hypergolic (it ain't a frickin' parabola alright)
3 months ago
Anonymous
wasn't nitric acid involved in the Nedelin Disaster?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nedelin_catastrophe
You would think mods on PrepHole would understand the Streisand Effect. Here of all places. A zigger or a /misc/Black person must have captured a janny spot.
The only thing that happens when they put the boot down this hard is that I gather what information I can, try to sort out the truth from the bullshit, and then spread it to every normie site possible so that it becomes impossible to kill and just let it grow from there.
They seem to think that all the images and webms made simply disappear out of my folder when the entire of /chug/ cries like a b***h and activates the auto-mod.
Now put that train of thought to the multi-year effort to ban anyone who dared consider that the russians might not be utterly moronic, that they might be able to jury-rig a way across a bridge that has been shelled, that they might be able to repair a bridge that had a truck bomb go off on it, that they might - given a year and a half - be able to think of re-enacting kursk and plant dense minefields with killing zones for artillery, that they might not just pack up and go home simply because the west made a frownie face at them.
Remember last year when people were predicting russia would run out of tanks in just a few months? Or that they would be out of rail car bearings within a few weeks and their entire logistics would shut down? Or the claims after the initial wave of himars attacks that russia would run out of artillery within 6 months?
>Remember last year when people were predicting russia would run out of tanks in just a few months?
Only trolls and dimwits said it this way. Experts said: Russia is loosing tanks so fast they will have to pull a lot from storage and even predicted we would see outdated T-62 and T-54 on the front by now.
This linked video presents evidence russia already pulled about 9.000 pieces of artillery from storage. Slightly more then half of of everything russia had. They can keep doing this for another year, no problem. But after two more years nothing would be left.
>after two more years nothing would be left
Except for the artillery they can make themselves, or buy from china, north korea, and iran. That's a long damned way from "nothing left".
3 months ago
Anonymous
Technically it's just "nothing left in storage". But this means Russia lost all soviet heritage in this war. Also this means Russia is defenseless, even a smaller neighbor like Georgia might feel strong enough to take land back from Russia. Worst case scenario for Russia is China sees an opportunity to make territorial claims and just takes Vladivostok without any resistance. And the entire world is applauding.
3 months ago
Anonymous
not having materiel reserves means
not being ready for prolonged high intensity conflict
and not
being defenceless as you still have standing army and can mobilize light infantry/ militias/ marauders
i doubt Georgia or any country would risk direct confrontation with Russia - unless you have conscripts to burn.
Attrition like in Ukraine is really something that sane people will try to avoid (if they have any choice in that matter of course)
3 months ago
Anonymous
only enemies without, no enemies within.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Consider how few Russian forces are not currently engaged in Ukraine, there would be a very hard choice for Russia regarding how much men and materiel they could divert to a secondary conflict. And even what they could divert would be the same undertrained, low morale mobiks and hastily reactivated armor that is getting cut down in Ukraine.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I'm surprised the Kazakhs, Georgians, Churkas and Mongols aren't getting very excited right now.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Except for the artillery they can make themselves
They can barely refurbish the shitty, ill-maintained tanks they have in storage due to the industrial bottlenecks they've got. It will be a long time before they can make enough shit just to replace the stuff that's already being destroyed, if ever. >or buy from china, north korea, and iran
with what money? certainly not with their shitty ruble which is practically worthless because of sanctions, or their dwindling supply of foreign currency. All they can do is trade oil for it, which certainly can't help with their already lethal case of dutch disease. And that's assuming those shitholes are willing to give them enough to replace their losses rather than try to stockpile for when things get heated in their own corner of the globe. I doubt the chinks would be willing to part with much more than some shitty plastic drones when they're far more concerned with preparing for their revolutionary struggle with the American capitalist pig-dogs.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>All they can do is trade oil for it
I dunno, can they even do that without the infrastructure for it?
3 months ago
Anonymous
another good point. ukies blowing stuff up behind the lines can't be very helpful for the ruskies already strained logistics and supply chains. just trying to make trades is now more difficult than ever before, and the aforementioned industrial bottlenecks are only going to get tighter when factories are regularly put out of commission by cardboard drones or disgruntled churkas. no matter how you look at it, supply is simply not going to meet demand in a year or two.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>another good point. ukies blowing stuff up behind the lines can't be very helpful for the ruskies already strained logistics and supply chains.
I meant that most of their gas-exporting infrastructure is centred around Europe. As a result, exporting gas to countries with which they don't have a pipeline connection is quite difficult.
At the current attrition rate Ukraine won't resist two more years, and even if they are willing to shove millions of men into the grinder to compensate the lack of equipment their economy will just cave in on itself considering their catastrophic demographic collapse due to migration.
The ~20 million shells that russia spent is enough to wear about 10,000 barrels. Makes sense, the big question is imports/new barrels.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Good point and far harder for us internet jockeys to track. The number of nations able to make artillery barrels in any number is likely very small.
Lmao these hats
3 months ago
Anonymous
Factories look better then the russian ones
3 months ago
Anonymous
Good point and far harder for us internet jockeys to track. The number of nations able to make artillery barrels in any number is likely very small.
Lmao these hats
The ~20 million shells that russia spent is enough to wear about 10,000 barrels. Makes sense, the big question is imports/new barrels.
>The number of nations able to make artillery barrels in any number is likely very small.
And somehow Iran and the the DPRK are two of them. Hell, the Norks arguably have the best on the planet unless a western nation tools up to make 203mm again, i can't think of anything in production that matches the overall size of a Koksan barrel.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I'd be wary of the quality of Nork barrels. I get the feeling the steel isn't exactly the best.
3 months ago
Anonymous
The Koksans examined by USA were perfectly fine.
>Hell, the Norks arguably have the best on the planet unless a western nation tools up to make 203mm again >Bigger is better
I can spot the German big-gun autism from an ocean away, anon
They aren't even the biggest, i was thinking of the length.
>the Norks arguably have the best of the planet
You're moronic, unarguably.
In terms of CURRENT production of big guns yes, unless you can show me a nation currently making something of that length.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>muh length
Which is that high purely because of the oversized caliber that offers no practical benefits.
Again, you're moronic.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>no practical benefits
Being the worlds longest range gun for 40+ years and running isn't a practical benefit? How does that dumbfrick juice taste?
3 months ago
Anonymous
Longest range gun? who cares when there's non-gun weapons far smaller, precise, and that out-ranges it.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>I get the feeling the steel isn't exactly the best.
The Koksan achieves its range by simply ignoring safety margin and barrel life that would be normal in the west or russia.
There's a good reason of why even they went full MRLS lately.
3 months ago
Anonymous
By all accounts the barrels are perfectly safe, the issue is they only last 500 shots at maximum charge.
And HOW DARE YOU people even suggest that the DPRK would ever consider an artillery system that might endanger the operators!
3 months ago
Anonymous
>The Juche organ
3 months ago
Anonymous
Extrapolate the backblast from a 106mm recoilless gun and have a good laugh.
Longest range gun? who cares when there's non-gun weapons far smaller, precise, and that out-ranges it.
Exactly, which is why NATO has abandoned tube artillery since it is meaningless in modern conflicts.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Extrapolate the backblast from a 106mm recoilless gun and have a good laugh.
I did it some months ago, 1-2 km iirc...
Juche magic I guess...
3 months ago
Anonymous
Remember, Nork organization would see a battery of four going off at once......Yeah, even they thought it was silly.
Still want one.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>1-2 km iirc...
I think your napkin math is a bit fudged.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Why? I estimated the propellant charge of the 370mm gun and used the inverse square law.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Hell, the Norks arguably have the best on the planet unless a western nation tools up to make 203mm again >Bigger is better
I can spot the German big-gun autism from an ocean away, anon
3 months ago
Anonymous
>I can spot the German big-gun autism from an ocean away, anon
It’s what Koksans are likely based on, considering the Germans used 170mm arty in WWII while the Soviets did not.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Mechanically they have nothing in common , Koksan appears to be home grown autism.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>the Norks arguably have the best of the planet
You're moronic, unarguably.
You moronic tourist do understand that fortified positions serve a purpose, right? Avdiivka has already immensely over-delivered on that purpose, and keeps delivering more.
>forbes >David Axe
Way to further out yourself. You need to go back.
>아침은 빛나라 이 강산 >은금에 자원도 가득한 >삼천리 아름다운 내 조국 >반만년 오랜 력사에 >찬란한 문화로 자라난 >슬기론 인민의 이 영광 >몸과 맘 다 바쳐 이 조선 >길이 받드세 >백두산 기상을 다 안고 >근로의 정신은 깃들어 >진리로 뭉쳐진 억센 뜻 >온 세계 앞서 나가리 >솟는 힘 노도도 내밀어 >인민의 뜻으로 선 나라 >한없이 부강하는 이 조선 >길이 빛내세
[...]
You moronic tourist do understand that fortified positions serve a purpose, right? Avdiivka has already immensely over-delivered on that purpose, and keeps delivering more.
>forbes >David Axe
Way to further out yourself. You need to go back.
How many alcoholic beverages which David Axe has drank do you think /k/ has paid for just by linking to his articles? It has to be at least 10.
2024-02-15 was the earliest in my price range. However, I've now cancelled the tasking as some other autistic fella managed to snag a higher resolution picture this morning (picrel). As I'm not really in a rush to get the satellite images, I'm just gonna wait until they come out and use the money for something else. However, if somebody wants them now, they're only $250.
I did some research and the plant already had an explosion on the 4th of August 2023 (https://news.yahoo.com/explosion-reported-missile-production-plant-112400142.html)
Also, Bellingcat tasked a satellite to get pictures, but got the wrong area (https://www.bellingcat.com/resources/2023/09/25/we-tasked-a-satellite-based-on-your-suggestions-here-are-the-results/). I thought they were good, but apparently they're moronic.
>I thought they were good, but apparently they're moronic
It was founded by a glowie censorship advocate and a wannabe glowie who got where he is by jerking off a now dead glowie on somethingawful
Anything remotely decent or factual they publish was probably emailed to them from actual military intelligence
>posts picture of a picture of a cloud
Is there a joke I'm missing or something? He's obviously autistic so the logic could just be beyond me here and-
Nevermind, I'm a moron and forgot to check cloud cover. They're useless, so I'm tasking it again, oof
>forgot to check cloud cover.
based moron, 9/10 you gave me a good laugh
I can get at least 1 satellite picture for the price of the autism roller. Guess which one I'll go for.
3 months ago
Anonymous
The autism roller will really help you calm down and de-stress. Also keep in mind that that particular model is ~300lbs of wood. Needs to be sturdy to withstand tard tantrums, but, shipping costs.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>The autism roller will really help you calm down and de-stress.
Tasking satellites to take images of critical Russian infrastructure going up in flames helps me calm down and de-stress.
I suspect they decided to test one of the new missiles they got from either the Iranians or the Norks and the thing not only blew up, but took the whole factory with it. This is mainly because if you look at where this happened on a map [...] it's just too far away for it to be done by anything except a long range fighter or bomber, so it has to be self-inflicted somehow.
KN-23s are solid fuel, if one blew up there would be chunks flying all over.
Yup, looks like a nice, controlled testing environment. At 10:00pm local time. Without advance notice to the confused locals. Nothing to see here, definitely not the Smoooooker at work or a Ukrainian long-range strike.
>definitely not the Smoooooker at work or a Ukrainian long-range strike.
It's so far from the border that there's no way it's a Ukranian long-range strike, unless they launched a fricking ICBM at it. It may actually be a smoker this time around.
>It's so far from the border that there's no way it's a Ukrainian long-range strike
This might be an AFU sabotage team working pretty deeply in the Russian interior, or maybe just a genuine screw-up on ageing Soviet equipment where the upkeep money bought a larger yacht for some oligarch.
That said, I'm not willing to rule out the possibility of a homegrown Ukrainian weapon with serious range just yet. They did some pretty innovative things with those 1970s drones.
Here are some WEBMs of a night time engine test from one of these rockets. They're pretty /k/ino.
Pretty fricking big.
For anyone curious, they took place far, far away from the frontlines, so it can't possibly be the Ukies and the Russians surely wouldn't have just sent the rocket scientists to the frontline and replaced them with steppe nomads, that would be silly. 🙂
Tactical advantage of subverting the supporters of your enemies to stop helping them only to then suffer even worse damage because said enemies no longer care about escalation?
How would you go about finding russian missile and other defense industry factories? You can find them on wikipedia, but theres never an address or coordinates. Would like to check them out on google maps and its not as if its classified information so surely they can be found.
Unironically you could try e-mailing the Russian MoD and say something stupid like "I would like to order the officers a pizza, could I have the address please?" and see what they come back with. Who's gonna turn down free pizza?
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RS-28_Sarmat
bunch of manufacturers involved in that weapon, but probably at Npo Elektromekhaniki which is searchable on google maps
good call, theres for sure some sweet lore and a crawlable space. ship the one guard back to mother base at your own discretion, he is in his shack watching russian soaps in a drunken slumber
What money does Russia have that they will use to buy North Korean missiles?
Didn't they already buy a bunch of artillery shells that were full of what was copper and cordite?
>What money does Russia have that they will use to buy North Korean missiles?
They are buying all the weapons from NK and Iran with their gold reserves, it is why stuff like the sneed leak is so damaging. They are almost certainly lying about how much they have and once they run out they are in very serious trouble.
What money does Russia have that they will use to buy North Korean missiles?
Didn't they already buy a bunch of artillery shells that were full of what was copper and cordite?
The drone deal was 1-2% of their reserves, Iran alone probably got 4-5% when everything is taken into account.
if the Iran order is anything to go by, they just ship the norks a ton (or two) of gold, which is hardly surprising.
Russia has been using their strategic gold reserve since the start of the war to patch up their foreign currency reserve issues.
>Tfw no Oceans 11 team to go steal a train car full of gold from the Russians with
The glowies can co-star in the movie and get a good cut too.
Though I guess that'd be more of a Fast and Furious movie plot
Plot twist: Third sect of Norks robbing the train are Chinese glowies
3 months ago
Anonymous
Fourth plot twist: Prigozhin faked his death and is also robbing the train, the team has to team up with the Norks to stop him and split the gold because they can both blame Wagner.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Fifth plot twist: Train is inexplicably too crowded and Boris Johnson can't get on
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Fast and Furious >Russians, Norks and trains
Main action scene takes place in the Vladivostok rail yard and involves multipule armored trains having gun fights while multi track drifting
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Prigozhin and some random starving sole surviving Nork he befriended during the mission walking away with the gold
3 months ago
Anonymous
>It's Prigozhin and Kim Yo Jong >Last clip is them telling the getaway driver to go >Its Boris Johnson
A- An Iskander ballistic missile test! At this time of year, at this time at night, in this part of the oblast, localized ENTIRELY within your factory?!
Fricking tell me about it
I was just in an excellent thread on PrepHole discussing the interview. Motherfrickers were having complex, high level discussion (unseen on that board) and the mods just nuked it at 166 replies.
Are mods just vatnik shills? I don’t understand.
Also rate my dinner >well seasoned grilled chicken breast roasted in butter with broccoli
Never seen an episode of start trek no. Just really like roast chicken and broccoli, I’ve eaten the same thing every night with slight variations for the past week and my housemates are starting to catch on. Yesterday I chucked some apple slices into the oven tray at the same time as the chicken and let me tell you the flavour on the chicken and the sauce was INCREDIBLE.
Not sure how you can tell that from the outside. It was perfectly juicy (thanks to roasting it with a large quantity of butter and keeping the breast whole). The reason the outside looks «burnt» or overcooked is because I like to grill/char the outside before then sticking it in the oven, gives the outside a nice flavour and crispiness imo.
>Not sure how you can tell that from the outside.
The outside tells your everything. >It was perfectly juicy (thanks to roasting it with a large quantity of butter
Now try it without the butter.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Are you delusional? Are you seriously suggesting I cook store-bought chicken breast on its own, without butter or olive oil? What a waste of chicken that would be my friend. My mother always stuck a healthy chunk of butter in there, that’s how I like it. Adds so much flavour to the chicken sauce underneath too.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I’m serious please explain am I missing some cuisine magic here where roasting chicken on its own is somehow better than with butter
you literally do not need butter to cook chicken. Pan frying is one thing, but putting it in the oven it's not needed, you're better off a bit of stock.
Hey, what do the frick do I know, I only went to Auguste Escoffier.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Then your school of culinary arts is dogshit. Adding butter means that you get more sauce with the chicken juices; when I add the broccoli to the roasting tray, it absorbs all the flavour from the butter/chicken juice sauce. Then, when I eat, I can pour the sauce over the broccoli and chicken for added taste and moistness. Extra calories too. Do I «NEED» to add butter? No. Does it make it 10x tastier? Absolutely.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Auguste Escoffier >culinary school named after a Frenchman >French people love butter >cook nearly everything with butter
3 months ago
Anonymous
I’m serious please explain am I missing some cuisine magic here where roasting chicken on its own is somehow better than with butter
Putin rambled for half an hour about some pseudohistorical bullshit and came out looking a bit unhinged and/or senile.
The kind of "Isn't it time for grampa to go to bed already?" situation.
It's unclear if anyone really got anything out of that interview. Putin had a big chance to explain himself and made himself look like some HOI -level internet historian who doesn't really know anything about anything, but stubbornly refuses to listen to other people's counterpoints.
So he literally sent to die hundreds of thousands because we wuz? That's all that emerged from the most important interview of the last years? How about that frickface that dares to call himself a "journalist"? Did he grew a spine and challenged Putin on anything or did he just let him look like a moron?
>Did he grew a spine and challenged Putin on anything
What do you think? When Monke said he has no intention to attack Poland or Baltics every journalist would immidiately confront him with Russian promises from January 2022. Challenging the great leader? Make him feel uncomfortable? We can't have that in multipolar world, can we?
>Cucker Tarlson >journalism
There are 1-2 clips (the sections that get posted everywhere) where Tucker tries to have an interview, but Putin lets him know that this is happening under his terms and then reminds him he is a clown that couldn't make it into the CIA kek
But that's just what you get when you hand the mic to a despot, not a unique trait of Putin. I guess it's a display of power to them
3 months ago
Anonymous
Tucker is just an attention prostitute who does stunts like this and courting the crazies so people will keep looking at him.
If he had been fed to siberian T-I-G-E-R-S like something out of James Bond it would have been a fitting consequence of his own actions.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>then reminds him he is a clown that couldn't make it into the CI
Did Putin really mentioned that?
lmao
I would pay grand to know what went through Cucker's head at that moment.
3 months ago
Anonymous
yes, it's funny.
and ironic coming from a KGB chair squasher.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Putin's job at the KGB was also overseeing KGB archives in Leningrad so he saw a lot of dirt and other useful information on people who became the "oligarchs" and supposedly "democratic politicians" of "Post-USSR" Russia.
To be fair, that's exactly how every cross-board raider acts. Incoherent, repeating himself, mumbling about random shit desperately, hoping some of it sticks. All pootin lacked was summoning his body doubles to samegay for him and hiring pajeets to surround cucker and parrot at him.
>It's unclear if anyone really got anything out of that interview.
Lot of people I used to respect and a lot of hyper-partisan dipshits sure did. Awful lot of people acting like he's brilliantly explaining Sauron by explaining Morgoth and totes not rambling about bullshit. The right is to Putin as the left is to Hamas at this point.
Never forget how ridiculously effective propaganda can be as a weapon. It can and has dramatically changed wars including outright winning them.
>Did he grew a spine and challenged Putin on anything
What do you think? When Monke said he has no intention to attack Poland or Baltics every journalist would immidiately confront him with Russian promises from January 2022. Challenging the great leader? Make him feel uncomfortable? We can't have that in multipolar world, can we?
To be fair "challenging" Putin in Moscow is probably a quick way to accidentally fall down some very high velocity stairs if you catch my drift. Guaranteed wouldn't be the first journalist to have an oopsie poopsie after daring to try anything that could make Putin look bad. I'm really hoping this ended up being a situation of letting Putin "open his mouth and remove all doubt". It'd be great if Tucker has the balls to really rip into it and harshly criticize Putin's performance as soon as he's back in the US and that might be enough to break through to some of the idiots acting like Putin is some glorious savior and super genius.
Putin rambled for half an hour about some pseudohistorical bullshit and came out looking a bit unhinged and/or senile.
The kind of "Isn't it time for grampa to go to bed already?" situation.
It's unclear if anyone really got anything out of that interview. Putin had a big chance to explain himself and made himself look like some HOI -level internet historian who doesn't really know anything about anything, but stubbornly refuses to listen to other people's counterpoints.
>Such a kind uncle, slightly in dementia comes and starts teaching the children about the Great Rus'
Kek what wouldn't I do to have the history teacher Putin timeline.
I'm about 20 minutes in watching it right now. Tucker asks "Did you think the US was going to strike Russia? Is that why you decided to send troops into Ukraine?" as a response Putin starts rambling about Russian history starting from its inception in the 1st millennia. It's really hard to watch honestly I hope it gets better.
It must be really funny moment when you finally meet your big idol only to realise he's not actually great startegist and intelectual. You merly projected your ideas into his deeds but in reality he's just stupid vengeful senile monke. And there you are talking to him boradcatsed for millions to see how pathetic both of you are.
Turns out it wasn't some 5D chess.
It was just plain old 2D Tic-Tac-toe. And he isn't even very good at it.
And now it's kinda plain for everyone to see and it's hard to even mental-acrobatics around it. Just an old grampa who really should understand to retire, but is too stubborn to admit it.
You think I'm Russian for wanting to see a real interview instead of hearing about irrelevant history? For a bit all he was talking about is how parts of Russia got raped by Mongols.
I gather no actual reason was given for the whole 3 day SMO
At 40 minutes it sounds like his response is 'The west did not let us in the sandbox after collapse of USSR so now we have to fight' but like I said I haven't finished it.
at the 50 minute mark we get a bit of an answer >we would have never considered to even lift a finger if it hadn't been for the bloody developments of maidan
I'm about 20 minutes in watching it right now. Tucker asks "Did you think the US was going to strike Russia? Is that why you decided to send troops into Ukraine?" as a response Putin starts rambling about Russian history starting from its inception in the 1st millennia. It's really hard to watch honestly I hope it gets better.
I love how there is zero mention of denazifying Ukraine lol lmao
3 months ago
Anonymous
Start watching from 58:48 if you want a good laugh.
I think his main reasoning was that after the fall of the USSR, the member states agreed that their borders would remain the same and there would generally be free trade between them. When Ukraine was offered to join the EU, this would have opened them up to free trade with the EU, and absolutely ruined trade with Russia. And then he goes on to justify the eventual 2022 invasion because of Maidan and bombing poor civilian separatists and we had no choice to take crimea as a security measure :~~*
3 months ago
Anonymous
I love the imperialist thinking dressed with a good guy narrative, while also seething at the fact that the EU just offers much better prospects than Russia, not to mention the narcissistic logic of aggression instead of self-improvement as a response to a reality check.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I'm just surprised he was able to string together the flimsiest, somewhat coherent justification possible after his little "history lesson". The most fascinating thing for me was that I learned a great deal of that Russian history in college from a professor that grew up in the USSR, the main difference being that he couldn't say enough negative things about them.
Just a obsolete factory making an obsolete missile, honestly it is good because the factory making the new version is safely past the Urals so Russia can stop wasting time guarding it and modernize their missile force faster.
Yeah, both.
When Covid hit, he isolated himself completely from the rest of the world. He doesn't watch tv or use the internet, so he has been in total bubble surrounded by nothing but Yes-men and Dugin-level ideology. At some point he just started to believe his own lies. And probably has gone a bit senile at the same time.
Or is he is just lying and you aren't in his targeted audience unlike at least a portion of tuckers viewers? It seems like putin is doing just fine, the war in ukraine was a gigantic mistake, but as far as Putin and his grip on russia goes he seems to have handled it.
Russians have been moulded into serfs at the genetic level, they are too cowardly to rebel no matter what he does.
Even prig halfassed his little march because he didn't have the nuts to follow through, and got blown up like a moron when the one thing russia has experience shooting down is civilian airliners.
Is it really that hard to make them?
It is now lol
kek
for those out of the loop, look up "Izhevsk" on twatter for some delicious boombooms
for some reason, this topic causes insane sneeding among jannies
It wasn't.
That sure does look like a picture of a weapon, clearly ideal for discussion on 'a board devoted to weapons and military equipment'. Well posted, OP.
I concur, this is perhaps the most weapon oriented thread in a long time. And no way in all about a humiliating explosion at one of the last factories that produces said weapon.
If I were to invade my neighbor, my favorite weapon would be a long range precious missile. I'm a sucker for the classics like ye olde SCUD
Absolutely. And, of course, historical weapons such as swords or muskets can be discussed too!
Just because we refer to a weapon's production in the past tense (even, indeed, if the transition from present to past tense was sudden and violent) doesn't mean we can't have a productive and educational discussion.
You are wrong, Sir, my cousin Vijay from Kolkatta thinks this is an off-topic thread
So, we both did the needful and reported it in order to preserve the high quality of posts on PrepHole dot organisation.
Well noted, sir. That's exactly what it is - a picture of a weapon, because it is not much of a weapon.
niiiiiice
>now they include the ass in the ass from factory
Last I heard production was through the roof. Most of the walls too
I heard they were having a fire sale.
The entire facility, half off! What a bargain.
Their production has been brilliant lately, no wonder they're getting rid of stock.
Output has skyrocketed for sure, something must have got the place all fired up.
I wonder why the fire sale started at 10:00PM? That seems awfully late for the facility to open.
>reddit humor
God this board is awful.
Oh yeah, because posting the ten-trillionth recycled wojak and appending every second word with -troon is peak comedy.
You have to go back.
EPIC catchphrase my dude, well meme'd!
Hit me with another ancient recycled catchphrase my man, at this rate those tired old lines will live longer than a vatnik missile plant
good morning, Sir
I agree with you, this is a very low quality thread and those are not funny posts. In fact, they remind me of the website reddit.com which I never visit.
Furthermore, this thread is off-topic because JSC Votkinsk Machine Building Plant manufactures agricultural and mining equipment and not -11/SS-1B Scud-A and B SRBMs; RT-21M/SS-20 Saber and SS-23 Spider IRBMs; RT-21 (SS-16 Sinner), RT-2PM (SS-25 Sickle) and RT-2UTTH Topol-M (SS-27) intercontinental ballistic missiles at all.
I think that this thread should be reported to the administrators of four channel dot org.
Frick off and have a nice day, zigger tourist.
Beats another deleted thread.
(Jeez, this must be how Russian bloggers think. I might start rationalizing bumsex soon.)
Gokubro btw.
>Wordplay is now considered reddit humor
OK, how about something more in line with your intellectual capacity.
Fart. Poop. Butts. Poopy farting butts. Or would you prefer a farting moron getting kicked in the balls?
only if the farting moron is a onions wojak and the kicker is chad pepe
I'd prefer not having to read shitty puns made by NPCs.
Do everyone a favor and have a nice day.
We all know what channel he watches.
Why don't you tell him to touch grass too, you fricking tourist.
You’re right, we need more trannies and basedjack edits
And of course the /misc/troon has to start railing about trannies. Jsut kys, tourist.
I used to love /k/ but it's been thoroughly subverted. Was better when it was Gen Xers discussing Mosin-Nagants.
I only laugh at wojacks that have a ton of symbols of stuff I don’t like on them, with at least 3 injections stuck in them, right there, that’s comedy. I joined the site in 2016 im a bit of an oldgay
nuclear weapons grade bait
OK Zoomer
/k/ should've been separated into
>/am/ - Arms + Military
>/gay/ - Guns And You
long ago.
That would actually be quite nice
Latest finacial report says that business is booming
Just kept releasing banger after banger fresh off the assembly lines. Shit was straight fire.
*sigh*
Imagine going from attached pic to "lol the chad sadBlack folk managed to start a fire in one of your cargo ships". Clown World believers still haven't figured out the joke is on them.
is this some commie cope about the burning icbm plant?
I mean, back in the day you could at least feel like they were worth the effort.
they were certainly better at faking it
More accurate rendition
Also valid.
It is no big deal, the DPRK can show them how to rebuild and even provide the equipment. Given how good the KN-23 is the new facility will be making better missiles than before so really it is a net gain for Russia.
Tempting fate.
That's why you do your test firing with the engine pointing straight up.
So... how big of a boom was it exactly? And how big of a deal is it?
>biggest/big rocket engine plant
yeah but was it THAT big of a boom or is it business as usual after 5 hours of firefighting and a little bit of welding?
Pretty fricking big.
I saw another clip of this and in it the fire went out super fast, so I'm really torn.
On the one hand, if it were a normal test people probably wouldn't be filming it, the boom clearly alerted people. But would a rocket fuel explosion burn out so quickly? A strong, continuous burn and then dark again in a couple seconds?
Assuming it didn't detonate, then the burn would continue as long as there's fuel, which wouldn't last long in an uncontained uncontrolled fashion, and then subsequent flames would be just from the burning surroundings.
Yeah, I could reason that:
-it's very far away and the fire is fricking big
-the fuel consumes very quickly
-the remaining fires once the fuel is consumed are comparatively small and not seen from such a distance
but I really have no knowledge on the matter and it might be a legit test for all I know.
Solid fuel rockets are built with oxidiser and fuel in one bundle. If its ignited in an uncontrolled manner it would burn pretty fast.
I love how their cope is "we're testing an engine burn". At 10PM.
Imagine if that was an engine test, that'd mean their ICBMs are fricked and really would blow up on launch.
> "we're testing an engine burn". At 10PM
I’m losing control of my SMO
Talk about Lighting up the Night
>Haha it was a normal engine burn nothing to worry about haha
The fact they were trying to spin the narrative so quickly tells you something big went up in smoke.
I suspect they decided to test one of the new missiles they got from either the Iranians or the Norks and the thing not only blew up, but took the whole factory with it. This is mainly because if you look at where this happened on a map
it's just too far away for it to be done by anything except a long range fighter or bomber, so it has to be self-inflicted somehow.
Ok I love the SMOOKER and such but c'mon it can't be THAT bad.
>it can't be THAT bad
I've been out of the loop for a year but... Jesus Christ what am I looking at here?
It's a picture taken by a ukrainian drone after they dropped another grenade in the famous suicide hole by Bakhmut IIRC.
I remember watching the first suicide hole vid.. it's weird to see how common this practice has become.
To be fair Russia already had one of the highest suicide rates in the world so, considering the amount of men Russia sent to die in Ukraine, it was inevitable we'd seen a lot of suicides, especially considering how trench warfare isn't exactly conducive to depression and suicidal ideations.
With the rate they're trying to suppress its spread, I suspect it may be worse than the usual factory fire. It ultimately depends on where they stored the fuel, because a warehouse full of rocket fuel going up is bad, but it's not "Holy shit, we've got to nuke it from the internet" bad.
The most likely scenario is that some bumbling fool accidently started a fire, the non-functioning fire-suppression system did it's thing and Russia lost either a bunch of Nork or Iranian missiles in the fire, which wouldn't be so bad if they weren't paying for them in gold, which is bad because Russia's currency is now backed by gold so they may have sunk the value of the ruble even further and got absolutely nothing out of it.
No what I mean is, it's more likely it was some ukranian deep strike, rather than it just being all on Russia and friends.
I'm on the fence about it to be honest, because it's over a thousand kilometres away from the frontlines and over 500km away from the nearest bordering country.
IF this was a Ukie deep strike, then it must have been done by saboteurs in country, because the only way they'd get the range necessary would be either firing an ICBM of their own or using a long-range fighter jet. If this turns out to be the case, then there is nowhere in Russia that is safe.
>Iran and NK decided this is the best and only time to get important technology that russia should NEVER part with but is so desperate from the special needs operation
>Sabotage the weapons, anonymously tip off the ukrainians to perform a diversionary sabotage attack
>Russia loses everything and need to bargain for weapons again but oh no they are a bit short on them....it can't be helped but we will need this tech that you don't want to part with, no problem if you don't want to, guess that SNO isn't going to work out winkwink.
Please let this be irans fault because it would be so fricking funny
The soviet union, in its infinite wisdom, moved a shitton of ukrainians out of ukraine and scattered them in the farthest reaches of the union. There are probably more ukrainians to the east of the urals than there are west.
And it looks nothing like an engine test. The plume would move the smoke cloud sideways.
That doesn't look big at all.
>592x672
I agree
Tiny
It's not. Based on the time delay for the shock wave hitting the cameraman, the "explosion" is only about 3km away. I can easily believe that it was a test firing that went wrong.
You think Russia has the money to build something which can outdo the largest solid ever fired when exploding?
Here's an example of a similar solid rocket engine test gone wrong, as performed by your favorite butt-buddies.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/expert-last-weeks-blast-in-central-israel-was-a-solid-rocket-fuel-test/
Anon he replied to, i don't know if i believe the vatnig story ( i never do on principle) but people are pretending this is some nuke tier explosion when it's pretty small for what they claim it is and immediately goes out as well. Just does not make sense. It feels like forced propaganda if i am being honest.
With how much suppression is going on, and how advanced Russian solid motor technology is (not very, since they're STILL developing UDMH/Tetroxide rockets) I'm doubtful they have a solid motor that can blow to produce a fireball even a tenth the size of the AJ by itself. This lends more credence to the idea that something went horribly wrong.
That shit is easily covering a hundred meters or so if the trucks up front are any indication.
For you
Thinly veiled shill thread. At least discuss the weapon system or something about the factory that was making it.
>fortress
>city
It's an intergalactic metropolis citadel, you swine.
>fortress city
This really is Bahkmut again
Mariupol, Bakhmut and Avdeevka, the Fortress graveyards of Ukraine and NATO.
And yet somehow each of them saw far, far more Russians die than Ukrainians. And not a single NATO soldier. In fact, at the rate it happened, Ukraine will in fact exterminate Russias entire male population before Russia manages to take even just the remainde rof the Donbas. Curious, that.
Kek. absolute fricking moron Black person
Yeah, that's what vatniks are.
>Mariupol, Bakhmut and Avdeevka
Each one is smaller, closer to the pre-February 24th frontline, and takes longer to fall than the last. I'm sure this in no way reflects broader trends.
At this rate, the next two Ukrainian fortress cities will be Luhansk and Rostov-on-Don.
Wait what the frick. It's that close?!
Yeah, it's literally right on the doorstep of their largest city and has been for 10 years now.
Keep in mind that they have every advantage here with a miniscule supply chain between the Russian Front and their storage areas, easy access to hospitals and enough shelter to properly mass and carry out large scale attacks.
Khokhxlil lies.
This is what the Avdiivka Coke Plant looks like from the town of Yasynuvata, which was occupied by Russia in 2014.
Wait, hyperfortress pisskey is right next door?
Hyperfortress Pisskey was even closer than Avdiivka, it was iirc less than 1 mile from the Donetsk airport.
Ukraine has many pisskeys(14 I think). Only a few of them have achieved hyperfortress status.
"Hyperfortress" is a contraction of "hyper-dimensional fortress". There's only one Pisky, only it's in 14 difference locations at the same time.
How about this for a point of discussion; as of this morning it's the factory that was making it, rather than the factory that is making it, and that's funny.
Russia's 41%ing themselves.
>Taking a small town reduced to rubble that was a forward delaying position after months of fighting and suffering tens of thousands of casualties at rates exceeding 10:1 is actually a good deal, totally worth losing a major strategic arms manufacturing site!
Wow, the zigger cope is truly through the roof. Damn factory must be a writeoff.
You receive: some rubble
I receive: mobiks for the mobikube
>worth losing a major strategic arms manufacturing site
Can't it just be repaired/rebuilt. It's just a manufactory.
Aon almost every engineer, technician and scientist involved with Russian missile projects died in mysterious circumstances last year, they might actually need to bring in Norks and Iranians to rebuild.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10746369/Cover-25-military-scientists-killed-fire-Russian-weapons-research-facility.html
Going by the size of the explosion, it looks like the storage for the rocket fuel went up. Going by standard Russian building practices, the storage shed was probably right next to, or in the same building, as the production line, so the factory is probably going to be out of commission for months if not just outright destroyed.
Oh, just to pour on the salt, that factory was playing around with some FUN rocket fuel ingreadients. Like hydrazine and fuming red nitric acid.
Also, it's surrounded on two sides by residential areas.
>Like hydrazine and fuming red nitric acid.
That sounds a bit dangerous. But I am no expert.
Fuming red nitric acid isn't that dangerous, at least compared to the hyper-toxic and cancer-inducing hydrazine.
>Fuming red nitric acid isn't that dangerous
MFW
Well, relatively speaking, given hydrazine is involved
Thanks! I just hope it will be good.
Red fuming nitric acid being "not that dangerous" means it will only spontaneously combust/explode when coming into contact with water (such as the moisture in people's eyes), and release toxic fumes in the process. Also it's highly corrosive to many metals.
Hydrazine is just a whole other level of awful. That shit fall under the highest possible NFPA health danger rating, and the second-highest reactivity/instability danger rating. (NFPA Health rating 4 is the category where you also find fun stuff like cyanide or hydrofluoric acid.)
>Red fuming nitric acid
I'm sure that they aren't using Inhibited Red Fuming Nitric Acid (IRFNA) but dinitrogen tetroxide (N2O4) that's far nastier and similar to hydrazine.
>N2O4 outperforms IRFNA
Red fuming nitric acid already contains dinitrogen tetroxide (mixed with nitric acid), but yeah, I also thing they're using N2O4 as it's hyperbolic when combined with hydrazine. This is going to be fun.
*hypergolic (it ain't a frickin' parabola alright)
wasn't nitric acid involved in the Nedelin Disaster?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nedelin_catastrophe
Blessed moron gets the digits
Just slap a new coat of lead based paint on it, give the brush a good lick and bob's your uncle.
>the zigger cope is truly through the roof
its not the only thing lmao
>after months of fighting
years*
It's been on the front since 2014
it's more like a thinly veiled exploding thread
I wonder what kind of weapon systems would be able to counter threats like these. Their 500km range is no joke.
Couple of ballers on a quadbike with 20 kg of C4 ?
>NAFO
How did morons on Twitter with doge edits buckbreak you this badly?
>morons on Twitter
this is no way to talk about perfectly pleasant, thirdie-bullying wine aunts
No, they really don't KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK
>it took russia ten years to fail to take Avdiivka
Grim.
You would think mods on PrepHole would understand the Streisand Effect. Here of all places. A zigger or a /misc/Black person must have captured a janny spot.
The only thing that happens when they put the boot down this hard is that I gather what information I can, try to sort out the truth from the bullshit, and then spread it to every normie site possible so that it becomes impossible to kill and just let it grow from there.
They seem to think that all the images and webms made simply disappear out of my folder when the entire of /chug/ cries like a b***h and activates the auto-mod.
Now put that train of thought to the multi-year effort to ban anyone who dared consider that the russians might not be utterly moronic, that they might be able to jury-rig a way across a bridge that has been shelled, that they might be able to repair a bridge that had a truck bomb go off on it, that they might - given a year and a half - be able to think of re-enacting kursk and plant dense minefields with killing zones for artillery, that they might not just pack up and go home simply because the west made a frownie face at them.
>given a year and a half - be able to think of re-enacting kursk and plant dense minefields with killing zones for artillery,
if this war goes on for another year and a half russia runs out of artillery
Remember last year when people were predicting russia would run out of tanks in just a few months? Or that they would be out of rail car bearings within a few weeks and their entire logistics would shut down? Or the claims after the initial wave of himars attacks that russia would run out of artillery within 6 months?
Running out isn't the same as ran out dipshit
remember when Russia went from deploying t72's and t90s to t64's and t55s?
there is a reason that happened
They actually deployed T-55s?
>Remember last year when people were predicting russia would run out of tanks in just a few months?
Only trolls and dimwits said it this way. Experts said: Russia is loosing tanks so fast they will have to pull a lot from storage and even predicted we would see outdated T-62 and T-54 on the front by now.
This linked video presents evidence russia already pulled about 9.000 pieces of artillery from storage. Slightly more then half of of everything russia had. They can keep doing this for another year, no problem. But after two more years nothing would be left.
>Only trolls and dimwits
So most of /k/, and the jannies. Thanks for being honest.
>after two more years nothing would be left
Except for the artillery they can make themselves, or buy from china, north korea, and iran. That's a long damned way from "nothing left".
Technically it's just "nothing left in storage". But this means Russia lost all soviet heritage in this war. Also this means Russia is defenseless, even a smaller neighbor like Georgia might feel strong enough to take land back from Russia. Worst case scenario for Russia is China sees an opportunity to make territorial claims and just takes Vladivostok without any resistance. And the entire world is applauding.
not having materiel reserves means
not being ready for prolonged high intensity conflict
and not
being defenceless as you still have standing army and can mobilize light infantry/ militias/ marauders
i doubt Georgia or any country would risk direct confrontation with Russia - unless you have conscripts to burn.
Attrition like in Ukraine is really something that sane people will try to avoid (if they have any choice in that matter of course)
only enemies without, no enemies within.
Consider how few Russian forces are not currently engaged in Ukraine, there would be a very hard choice for Russia regarding how much men and materiel they could divert to a secondary conflict. And even what they could divert would be the same undertrained, low morale mobiks and hastily reactivated armor that is getting cut down in Ukraine.
I'm surprised the Kazakhs, Georgians, Churkas and Mongols aren't getting very excited right now.
>Except for the artillery they can make themselves
They can barely refurbish the shitty, ill-maintained tanks they have in storage due to the industrial bottlenecks they've got. It will be a long time before they can make enough shit just to replace the stuff that's already being destroyed, if ever.
>or buy from china, north korea, and iran
with what money? certainly not with their shitty ruble which is practically worthless because of sanctions, or their dwindling supply of foreign currency. All they can do is trade oil for it, which certainly can't help with their already lethal case of dutch disease. And that's assuming those shitholes are willing to give them enough to replace their losses rather than try to stockpile for when things get heated in their own corner of the globe. I doubt the chinks would be willing to part with much more than some shitty plastic drones when they're far more concerned with preparing for their revolutionary struggle with the American capitalist pig-dogs.
>All they can do is trade oil for it
I dunno, can they even do that without the infrastructure for it?
another good point. ukies blowing stuff up behind the lines can't be very helpful for the ruskies already strained logistics and supply chains. just trying to make trades is now more difficult than ever before, and the aforementioned industrial bottlenecks are only going to get tighter when factories are regularly put out of commission by cardboard drones or disgruntled churkas. no matter how you look at it, supply is simply not going to meet demand in a year or two.
>another good point. ukies blowing stuff up behind the lines can't be very helpful for the ruskies already strained logistics and supply chains.
I meant that most of their gas-exporting infrastructure is centred around Europe. As a result, exporting gas to countries with which they don't have a pipeline connection is quite difficult.
At the current attrition rate Ukraine won't resist two more years, and even if they are willing to shove millions of men into the grinder to compensate the lack of equipment their economy will just cave in on itself considering their catastrophic demographic collapse due to migration.
>'2 more X' posting
bait (don don)
Watch the video shill Covert has consistently said two years at current loss rates.
>two more years
The ~20 million shells that russia spent is enough to wear about 10,000 barrels. Makes sense, the big question is imports/new barrels.
Good point and far harder for us internet jockeys to track. The number of nations able to make artillery barrels in any number is likely very small.
Lmao these hats
Factories look better then the russian ones
>The number of nations able to make artillery barrels in any number is likely very small.
And somehow Iran and the the DPRK are two of them. Hell, the Norks arguably have the best on the planet unless a western nation tools up to make 203mm again, i can't think of anything in production that matches the overall size of a Koksan barrel.
I'd be wary of the quality of Nork barrels. I get the feeling the steel isn't exactly the best.
The Koksans examined by USA were perfectly fine.
They aren't even the biggest, i was thinking of the length.
In terms of CURRENT production of big guns yes, unless you can show me a nation currently making something of that length.
>muh length
Which is that high purely because of the oversized caliber that offers no practical benefits.
Again, you're moronic.
>no practical benefits
Being the worlds longest range gun for 40+ years and running isn't a practical benefit? How does that dumbfrick juice taste?
Longest range gun? who cares when there's non-gun weapons far smaller, precise, and that out-ranges it.
>I get the feeling the steel isn't exactly the best.
The Koksan achieves its range by simply ignoring safety margin and barrel life that would be normal in the west or russia.
There's a good reason of why even they went full MRLS lately.
By all accounts the barrels are perfectly safe, the issue is they only last 500 shots at maximum charge.
And HOW DARE YOU people even suggest that the DPRK would ever consider an artillery system that might endanger the operators!
>The Juche organ
Extrapolate the backblast from a 106mm recoilless gun and have a good laugh.
Exactly, which is why NATO has abandoned tube artillery since it is meaningless in modern conflicts.
>Extrapolate the backblast from a 106mm recoilless gun and have a good laugh.
I did it some months ago, 1-2 km iirc...
Juche magic I guess...
Remember, Nork organization would see a battery of four going off at once......Yeah, even they thought it was silly.
Still want one.
>1-2 km iirc...
I think your napkin math is a bit fudged.
Why? I estimated the propellant charge of the 370mm gun and used the inverse square law.
>Hell, the Norks arguably have the best on the planet unless a western nation tools up to make 203mm again
>Bigger is better
I can spot the German big-gun autism from an ocean away, anon
>I can spot the German big-gun autism from an ocean away, anon
It’s what Koksans are likely based on, considering the Germans used 170mm arty in WWII while the Soviets did not.
Mechanically they have nothing in common , Koksan appears to be home grown autism.
>the Norks arguably have the best of the planet
You're moronic, unarguably.
You moronic tourist do understand that fortified positions serve a purpose, right? Avdiivka has already immensely over-delivered on that purpose, and keeps delivering more.
>forbes
>David Axe
Way to further out yourself. You need to go back.
So if the factory really is ruined does this mean that NORTH FRICKING KOREA is Russia's only source of SRBMs?
the dear leader always wins
Utter Nork dominance confirmed
Monke called for King Kong Un
>them digits
Best fricking Korea
>아침은 빛나라 이 강산
>은금에 자원도 가득한
>삼천리 아름다운 내 조국
>반만년 오랜 력사에
>찬란한 문화로 자라난
>슬기론 인민의 이 영광
>몸과 맘 다 바쳐 이 조선
>길이 받드세
>백두산 기상을 다 안고
>근로의 정신은 깃들어
>진리로 뭉쳐진 억센 뜻
>온 세계 앞서 나가리
>솟는 힘 노도도 내밀어
>인민의 뜻으로 선 나라
>한없이 부강하는 이 조선
>길이 빛내세
Korean Century confirmed
Fricking checked
Hnnnnnnnngg
Homefront: Vladivostok when?
I wonder if the drone flew in from Khazakstan.
How many alcoholic beverages which David Axe has drank do you think /k/ has paid for just by linking to his articles? It has to be at least 10.
UMPK is cheaper
>the shockwave of the air burst interacting with the smoke
Anon this is a blue board for frick sake!
S-Smoke jiggle..
Rude!
badaboom
Satellite images when?
I paid for 'em, if it's not cloudy I'll post them as soon as they're made
Did they give you an estimate of when the next flyover will be?
2024-02-15 was the earliest in my price range. However, I've now cancelled the tasking as some other autistic fella managed to snag a higher resolution picture this morning (picrel). As I'm not really in a rush to get the satellite images, I'm just gonna wait until they come out and use the money for something else. However, if somebody wants them now, they're only $250.
Nevermind, I'm a moron and forgot to check cloud cover. They're useless, so I'm tasking it again, oof
godspeed you autistic vatBlack person humiliating satellite paypig.
I did some research and the plant already had an explosion on the 4th of August 2023 (https://news.yahoo.com/explosion-reported-missile-production-plant-112400142.html)
Also, Bellingcat tasked a satellite to get pictures, but got the wrong area (https://www.bellingcat.com/resources/2023/09/25/we-tasked-a-satellite-based-on-your-suggestions-here-are-the-results/). I thought they were good, but apparently they're moronic.
no, that is the right place. The test range is elsewhere.
The images are of the town where the HQ is, not the factory itself.
>I thought they were good, but apparently they're moronic
It was founded by a glowie censorship advocate and a wannabe glowie who got where he is by jerking off a now dead glowie on somethingawful
Anything remotely decent or factual they publish was probably emailed to them from actual military intelligence
>posts picture of a picture of a cloud
Is there a joke I'm missing or something? He's obviously autistic so the logic could just be beyond me here and-
>forgot to check cloud cover.
based moron, 9/10 you gave me a good laugh
I can get at least 1 satellite picture for the price of the autism roller. Guess which one I'll go for.
The autism roller will really help you calm down and de-stress. Also keep in mind that that particular model is ~300lbs of wood. Needs to be sturdy to withstand tard tantrums, but, shipping costs.
>The autism roller will really help you calm down and de-stress.
Tasking satellites to take images of critical Russian infrastructure going up in flames helps me calm down and de-stress.
>$800 for an autist squisher
this is insanely over-priced. you could probably make this in your garage for an eighth of that price or less.
Not if you didn’t put a bunch of r and d time into making sure it’s just an autist squisher and don’t turn into a moron crusher
Here are some WEBMs of a night time engine test from one of these rockets. They're pretty /k/ino.
These engine tests closely resemble a fuel explosion...
KN-23s are solid fuel, if one blew up there would be chunks flying all over.
So the frick was yesterday? Why jimmis was deleting it? R we got vanik in mod shift now?
Yup, looks like a nice, controlled testing environment. At 10:00pm local time. Without advance notice to the confused locals. Nothing to see here, definitely not the Smoooooker at work or a Ukrainian long-range strike.
>definitely not the Smoooooker at work or a Ukrainian long-range strike.
It's so far from the border that there's no way it's a Ukranian long-range strike, unless they launched a fricking ICBM at it. It may actually be a smoker this time around.
>It's so far from the border that there's no way it's a Ukrainian long-range strike
This might be an AFU sabotage team working pretty deeply in the Russian interior, or maybe just a genuine screw-up on ageing Soviet equipment where the upkeep money bought a larger yacht for some oligarch.
That said, I'm not willing to rule out the possibility of a homegrown Ukrainian weapon with serious range just yet. They did some pretty innovative things with those 1970s drones.
For anyone curious, they took place far, far away from the frontlines, so it can't possibly be the Ukies and the Russians surely wouldn't have just sent the rocket scientists to the frontline and replaced them with steppe nomads, that would be silly. 🙂
Nice.
>factories and rail lines randomly explode on a weekly basis
Yes strong and trad mighty Russia have no need for pathetic HATO OSHA
Tactical advantage of subverting the supporters of your enemies to stop helping them only to then suffer even worse damage because said enemies no longer care about escalation?
I assume they were being produced in Izhevsk. When can we expect the next batch?
how long before the satellite pictures???
why does the janny hate this particular event so much
His mom's dildo was made by the same plant.
>Verification not required.
How would you go about finding russian missile and other defense industry factories? You can find them on wikipedia, but theres never an address or coordinates. Would like to check them out on google maps and its not as if its classified information so surely they can be found.
I wouldn't worry about it.
Thats fine, but I would very much like to look at them on google maps, so the question stands.
Unironically you could try e-mailing the Russian MoD and say something stupid like "I would like to order the officers a pizza, could I have the address please?" and see what they come back with. Who's gonna turn down free pizza?
Where are the rockets for the RS-28 Sarmat made?
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RS-28_Sarmat
bunch of manufacturers involved in that weapon, but probably at Npo Elektromekhaniki which is searchable on google maps
if these facilities were metal gear missions it would be so easy to blow them up..
"Snake?"
"Yes, colonel?"
"The missile manufacturing facility..."
"What about it?"
"It blew up on its own!"
"..."
Looks almost as abandoned as Rostok.
yeah, thats just how old russian facilities look. lots of people at work here
Nice to know that all I need is a pair of domestic wire cutters and a stepladder to break into an ICBM missile factory.
>Mk+Hk= on wall
im gonna codec call in front of this for some sweet lore, before crawling prone through a low hole somewhere on the exterior
good call, theres for sure some sweet lore and a crawlable space. ship the one guard back to mother base at your own discretion, he is in his shack watching russian soaps in a drunken slumber
I got Zlatoust Machine-Building Plant but I will check that one out.
>They don't make them
ftfy
>Kims face looking at his bank balance after the last 24 hours of missile orders from Moscow
What money does Russia have that they will use to buy North Korean missiles?
Didn't they already buy a bunch of artillery shells that were full of what was copper and cordite?
>What money does Russia have that they will use to buy North Korean missiles?
They are buying all the weapons from NK and Iran with their gold reserves, it is why stuff like the sneed leak is so damaging. They are almost certainly lying about how much they have and once they run out they are in very serious trouble.
The drone deal was 1-2% of their reserves, Iran alone probably got 4-5% when everything is taken into account.
Have a chance of getting the gold back with reactor sales to Iran but ah good luck.
They will trade Indian bananas for missiles.
>Monke is out of banan
We have truly reached peak comedy
>Banan Contra
if the Iran order is anything to go by, they just ship the norks a ton (or two) of gold, which is hardly surprising.
Russia has been using their strategic gold reserve since the start of the war to patch up their foreign currency reserve issues.
>just ship the norks a ton (or two) of gold
https://www.iranintl.com/en/202306052171
>The total for just 1,000 rounds adds up to $1,013,100,
Pretty damn sure Norks got more than 1-2 tons, more like 10-15.
>Tfw no Oceans 11 team to go steal a train car full of gold from the Russians with
The glowies can co-star in the movie and get a good cut too.
Though I guess that'd be more of a Fast and Furious movie plot
Plot twist : Norks find out and try to rob the train themselves and blame you so they can get paid twice.
Plot twist: Third sect of Norks robbing the train are Chinese glowies
Fourth plot twist: Prigozhin faked his death and is also robbing the train, the team has to team up with the Norks to stop him and split the gold because they can both blame Wagner.
Fifth plot twist: Train is inexplicably too crowded and Boris Johnson can't get on
>Fast and Furious
>Russians, Norks and trains
Main action scene takes place in the Vladivostok rail yard and involves multipule armored trains having gun fights while multi track drifting
>Prigozhin and some random starving sole surviving Nork he befriended during the mission walking away with the gold
>It's Prigozhin and Kim Yo Jong
>Last clip is them telling the getaway driver to go
>Its Boris Johnson
Now I want a Ukrainian remake of Kelly's Heroes.
Screen cap this so in a few years /k/ can make it's first AI movie
Here you go, I would like to be labelled in the credits as Anon please.
Weren't there a couple other smoking accidents recently? The thread detailing them was mysteriously deleted.
There's been lots of them actually. Not sure if there is a new one today.
A- An Iskander ballistic missile test! At this time of year, at this time at night, in this part of the oblast, localized ENTIRELY within your factory?!
Extremely pleased to see the thread I tried to make five times yesterday finally succeed. Frick mods, frick jannies.
agree, that was total fricking bullshit.
They're preoccupied with damage control now that Putin's interview went worse than expected.
Fricking tell me about it
I was just in an excellent thread on PrepHole discussing the interview. Motherfrickers were having complex, high level discussion (unseen on that board) and the mods just nuked it at 166 replies.
Are mods just vatnik shills? I don’t understand.
Also rate my dinner
>well seasoned grilled chicken breast roasted in butter with broccoli
Hey, do you know a certain kaiju obsessed /trek/tard, your cooking looks familiar....
Never seen an episode of start trek no. Just really like roast chicken and broccoli, I’ve eaten the same thing every night with slight variations for the past week and my housemates are starting to catch on. Yesterday I chucked some apple slices into the oven tray at the same time as the chicken and let me tell you the flavour on the chicken and the sauce was INCREDIBLE.
I didn't read your post, but your chicken is over cooked.
Not sure how you can tell that from the outside. It was perfectly juicy (thanks to roasting it with a large quantity of butter and keeping the breast whole). The reason the outside looks «burnt» or overcooked is because I like to grill/char the outside before then sticking it in the oven, gives the outside a nice flavour and crispiness imo.
>Not sure how you can tell that from the outside.
The outside tells your everything.
>It was perfectly juicy (thanks to roasting it with a large quantity of butter
Now try it without the butter.
Are you delusional? Are you seriously suggesting I cook store-bought chicken breast on its own, without butter or olive oil? What a waste of chicken that would be my friend. My mother always stuck a healthy chunk of butter in there, that’s how I like it. Adds so much flavour to the chicken sauce underneath too.
you literally do not need butter to cook chicken. Pan frying is one thing, but putting it in the oven it's not needed, you're better off a bit of stock.
Hey, what do the frick do I know, I only went to Auguste Escoffier.
Then your school of culinary arts is dogshit. Adding butter means that you get more sauce with the chicken juices; when I add the broccoli to the roasting tray, it absorbs all the flavour from the butter/chicken juice sauce. Then, when I eat, I can pour the sauce over the broccoli and chicken for added taste and moistness. Extra calories too. Do I «NEED» to add butter? No. Does it make it 10x tastier? Absolutely.
>Auguste Escoffier
>culinary school named after a Frenchman
>French people love butter
>cook nearly everything with butter
I’m serious please explain am I missing some cuisine magic here where roasting chicken on its own is somehow better than with butter
It looks like he just seared the outside.
PrepHole jannies are some of the worst, they don't want anything in that board that isn't either shitty blockbusters or capeshit.
Also link to that thread on the archive?
I haven't seen it yet, what went wrong with the interview?
Putin rambled for half an hour about some pseudohistorical bullshit and came out looking a bit unhinged and/or senile.
The kind of "Isn't it time for grampa to go to bed already?" situation.
It's unclear if anyone really got anything out of that interview. Putin had a big chance to explain himself and made himself look like some HOI -level internet historian who doesn't really know anything about anything, but stubbornly refuses to listen to other people's counterpoints.
So he literally sent to die hundreds of thousands because we wuz? That's all that emerged from the most important interview of the last years? How about that frickface that dares to call himself a "journalist"? Did he grew a spine and challenged Putin on anything or did he just let him look like a moron?
>Did he grew a spine and challenged Putin on anything
What do you think? When Monke said he has no intention to attack Poland or Baltics every journalist would immidiately confront him with Russian promises from January 2022. Challenging the great leader? Make him feel uncomfortable? We can't have that in multipolar world, can we?
>Cucker Tarlson
>journalism
There are 1-2 clips (the sections that get posted everywhere) where Tucker tries to have an interview, but Putin lets him know that this is happening under his terms and then reminds him he is a clown that couldn't make it into the CIA kek
But that's just what you get when you hand the mic to a despot, not a unique trait of Putin. I guess it's a display of power to them
Tucker is just an attention prostitute who does stunts like this and courting the crazies so people will keep looking at him.
If he had been fed to siberian T-I-G-E-R-S like something out of James Bond it would have been a fitting consequence of his own actions.
>then reminds him he is a clown that couldn't make it into the CI
Did Putin really mentioned that?
Yep
https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1755757290953515479
lmao
I would pay grand to know what went through Cucker's head at that moment.
yes, it's funny.
and ironic coming from a KGB chair squasher.
Putin's job at the KGB was also overseeing KGB archives in Leningrad so he saw a lot of dirt and other useful information on people who became the "oligarchs" and supposedly "democratic politicians" of "Post-USSR" Russia.
>came out looking a bit unhinged and/or senile
Maybe that's becasue he's unhinged and senile.
To be fair, that's exactly how every cross-board raider acts. Incoherent, repeating himself, mumbling about random shit desperately, hoping some of it sticks. All pootin lacked was summoning his body doubles to samegay for him and hiring pajeets to surround cucker and parrot at him.
"russia won the great patriotic war singlehandedly"-tier pseudohistory, or "Ghengis Khan was a russian slav"-tier pseudohistory?
Little bit of both.
Went all the way to 800's and Ruriks and viking ancestors and such. "WE WUZ VARANGIANZ N SHIET"
The dude drinks Dugin's "glorious past LARP" coolaid hardmode.
>It's unclear if anyone really got anything out of that interview.
Lot of people I used to respect and a lot of hyper-partisan dipshits sure did. Awful lot of people acting like he's brilliantly explaining Sauron by explaining Morgoth and totes not rambling about bullshit. The right is to Putin as the left is to Hamas at this point.
Never forget how ridiculously effective propaganda can be as a weapon. It can and has dramatically changed wars including outright winning them.
To be fair "challenging" Putin in Moscow is probably a quick way to accidentally fall down some very high velocity stairs if you catch my drift. Guaranteed wouldn't be the first journalist to have an oopsie poopsie after daring to try anything that could make Putin look bad. I'm really hoping this ended up being a situation of letting Putin "open his mouth and remove all doubt". It'd be great if Tucker has the balls to really rip into it and harshly criticize Putin's performance as soon as he's back in the US and that might be enough to break through to some of the idiots acting like Putin is some glorious savior and super genius.
2ch is not impressed too.
>Such a kind uncle, slightly in dementia comes and starts teaching the children about the Great Rus'
Kek what wouldn't I do to have the history teacher Putin timeline.
I'm about 20 minutes in watching it right now. Tucker asks "Did you think the US was going to strike Russia? Is that why you decided to send troops into Ukraine?" as a response Putin starts rambling about Russian history starting from its inception in the 1st millennia. It's really hard to watch honestly I hope it gets better.
It must be really funny moment when you finally meet your big idol only to realise he's not actually great startegist and intelectual. You merly projected your ideas into his deeds but in reality he's just stupid vengeful senile monke. And there you are talking to him boradcatsed for millions to see how pathetic both of you are.
Love it.
Turns out it wasn't some 5D chess.
It was just plain old 2D Tic-Tac-toe. And he isn't even very good at it.
And now it's kinda plain for everyone to see and it's hard to even mental-acrobatics around it. Just an old grampa who really should understand to retire, but is too stubborn to admit it.
>It's really hard to watch honestly I hope it gets better.
You think I'm Russian for wanting to see a real interview instead of hearing about irrelevant history? For a bit all he was talking about is how parts of Russia got raped by Mongols.
At 40 minutes it sounds like his response is 'The west did not let us in the sandbox after collapse of USSR so now we have to fight' but like I said I haven't finished it.
I gather no actual reason was given for the whole 3 day SMO
at the 50 minute mark we get a bit of an answer
>we would have never considered to even lift a finger if it hadn't been for the bloody developments of maidan
I love how there is zero mention of denazifying Ukraine lol lmao
Start watching from 58:48 if you want a good laugh.
I think his main reasoning was that after the fall of the USSR, the member states agreed that their borders would remain the same and there would generally be free trade between them. When Ukraine was offered to join the EU, this would have opened them up to free trade with the EU, and absolutely ruined trade with Russia. And then he goes on to justify the eventual 2022 invasion because of Maidan and bombing poor civilian separatists and we had no choice to take crimea as a security measure :~~*
I love the imperialist thinking dressed with a good guy narrative, while also seething at the fact that the EU just offers much better prospects than Russia, not to mention the narcissistic logic of aggression instead of self-improvement as a response to a reality check.
I'm just surprised he was able to string together the flimsiest, somewhat coherent justification possible after his little "history lesson". The most fascinating thing for me was that I learned a great deal of that Russian history in college from a professor that grew up in the USSR, the main difference being that he couldn't say enough negative things about them.
Really? I’ve been told business is BOOMING as of late you know.
Just a obsolete factory making an obsolete missile, honestly it is good because the factory making the new version is safely past the Urals so Russia can stop wasting time guarding it and modernize their missile force faster.
>the factory making the new version is safely past the Urals
in North Korea?
Is putin going senile or has he just lived in his own curated world of imposed yes men and brownnosers for so long he's made himself softbrained
Why not both?
Yeah, both.
When Covid hit, he isolated himself completely from the rest of the world. He doesn't watch tv or use the internet, so he has been in total bubble surrounded by nothing but Yes-men and Dugin-level ideology. At some point he just started to believe his own lies. And probably has gone a bit senile at the same time.
Or is he is just lying and you aren't in his targeted audience unlike at least a portion of tuckers viewers? It seems like putin is doing just fine, the war in ukraine was a gigantic mistake, but as far as Putin and his grip on russia goes he seems to have handled it.
Russians have been moulded into serfs at the genetic level, they are too cowardly to rebel no matter what he does.
Even prig halfassed his little march because he didn't have the nuts to follow through, and got blown up like a moron when the one thing russia has experience shooting down is civilian airliners.
Both.
Also Patrushev is who really calls the shots not him.