Haha i get your point but the impact driver was cheaper, makes a rad noise, also it looks cooler.
I obsessed over getting a drill. Later I got a driver and only because it was on sale. Fast forward a year and I bet I use my drill 1 time for every 10 times I use my driver.
I'm guessing it's trolling or people who have never used tools for a full day of work. Drill is nice for drilling and the clutch is nice for driving brass screws and other breakable fasteners. Impact driver beats the hell out of a drill for driving in screws and can be used as a drill for countersinking and bits up to 3/16ths in light applications. Both have their place on the jobsite.
Some of the small brushless impacts are getting gud at driving small screws now. I’m tempted to grab the M12 Fuel stuff one day. The little subcompact Ridgid has a real light hammer with high speed and a variable trigger so it works great with small stuff and a light trigger pull and them will build up speed on bigger screws and put out a lot of torque.
Lots of other impacts have speed settings too, so I imagine a compact 12V impact with settings like the M12 Fuel would be great fot little screws.
If you seriously want to upgrade your impact go with the milwaukee with the surge hydraulic system. I was framing out an independent ceiling for a cedar tongue and grove ceiling I am building and one guy had one and it was so quiet that I am going to be buying one. The noise of impacts is the worst part for me, I do a lot of wood ceiling work and when you are installing the substrate for a coffered ceiling your ears are ringing all day, so this one being quiet is huge to me.
I don’t mind the noise. Ridgid actually sold one for a minute but I think they discontinued it, maybe there’s still some floating around.
Stupid Youtube vids say they’re pretty good for driving screws but not going to be great if you’re using them with socket adapters for stubborn nuts and bolts.
Also there’s an M12 Surge. I would be curious to try one.
I am a finish carpenter so I am not going to be doing the nuts and bolts. Plus my bosch impact already has a 1/2 drive. I will say the cheap milwaukee m12 multitool is my favorite on the market, the brushless one has vibration control that makes it really hard to hold a straight line. The blade change sucks though. But I like the form factor and with the 3.0 ah battery it handles really well and works long enough for my tastes.
Those things are designed to drill big holes at a 90 degree angle, so between the large motor and beefy gear system, they need to be pretty damn bulky and long enough that the user can counteract the torque of drilling through 4” of wood.
Then you haven't used both. If total utter pantshitting desperation is in play you don't really require power tools but tools are cheap while my time (and wrists) have value. People younger than sixty are incapable of believing RSI is real but impact tools are much easier on the body.
When in doubt remember what people who do this stuff for a living use for given tasks.
Then you haven't used both. If total utter pantshitting desperation is in play you don't really require power tools but tools are cheap while my time (and wrists) have value. People younger than sixty are incapable of believing RSI is real but impact tools are much easier on the body.
When in doubt remember what people who do this stuff for a living use for given tasks.
You obviously haven’t used both. A modern brushless impact driver rated at 2000+ in lbs of torque will remove lug nuts that were recently torqued to 100ft-lbs. Try doing that with a drill.
>Drill is good for drill bits and drilling holes. An impact would snap a drill bit
>Impact driver is good for big-ass screws and bolts. A normal drill wouldn’t be powerful enough without the hammering ability
Go have a nice day, you lazy c**t
why do you need a impact driver for bolts bu then impact wrench for nuts wtf
Then sell the impact you bought by mistake, use the drill and frick off. No serious user is under that delusion but do enjoy yourself.
there is no reason to use a standard drill. An impact driver does both, but better. I threw away all my drills a few weeks ago
Dumb. You need a drill for small holes in wood, stone etc. Impacts dont drill well and cant take most non octagonal sized shapes anyway.
someone has never put in all brass hinges
>ryobi
yup, that's a paperweight
drill is for drilling holes into this and driver is for driving fasteners into said holes
…and Bosch is the best power tool brand. We know.
>these are the same tool
Well they might as well be, seeing how they just sit and never get used.
The hammer makes a much better paperweight.
Check out this big ol’ paperweight I got last week!
Your other b8 thread is still up OP
I have drill and hammer drill, no impact driver. Never found a screw I couldn't drive between those.
What you actually work on is relevant. Apparently not machinery where impacts are major RSI reducers.
I agree with this. I tightened bolts with hand wrenches for a week, and then I bought an impact because my elbows were protesting.
Haha i get your point but the impact driver was cheaper, makes a rad noise, also it looks cooler.
>no hammer setting on his regular drill
ngmi
I obsessed over getting a drill. Later I got a driver and only because it was on sale. Fast forward a year and I bet I use my drill 1 time for every 10 times I use my driver.
>you cannot convince me otherwise
I agree, I can't, because you appear to be moronic
>WrrrrrrrrrrrrBBBBRRRRRRTTTTT
Set it to DRILL mode, no BRRRRRRRRTTTTT, easy fix.
why would i use a drill when i can use a japanese screwdriver instead?
One is a lot faster and will actually turn screws stuck in 2”+ of wood.
Impact for mass repetitive work, drill for drilling and finer work where you need low torque or stepped torque control.
Thats how i use it.
https://strawpoll.com/polls/kjn1j6NL2gQ
Why are morons trying to force this "impacts are useless" meme? I use my impact on the job more than anything else
I'm guessing it's trolling or people who have never used tools for a full day of work. Drill is nice for drilling and the clutch is nice for driving brass screws and other breakable fasteners. Impact driver beats the hell out of a drill for driving in screws and can be used as a drill for countersinking and bits up to 3/16ths in light applications. Both have their place on the jobsite.
Some of the small brushless impacts are getting gud at driving small screws now. I’m tempted to grab the M12 Fuel stuff one day. The little subcompact Ridgid has a real light hammer with high speed and a variable trigger so it works great with small stuff and a light trigger pull and them will build up speed on bigger screws and put out a lot of torque.
Lots of other impacts have speed settings too, so I imagine a compact 12V impact with settings like the M12 Fuel would be great fot little screws.
If you seriously want to upgrade your impact go with the milwaukee with the surge hydraulic system. I was framing out an independent ceiling for a cedar tongue and grove ceiling I am building and one guy had one and it was so quiet that I am going to be buying one. The noise of impacts is the worst part for me, I do a lot of wood ceiling work and when you are installing the substrate for a coffered ceiling your ears are ringing all day, so this one being quiet is huge to me.
https://www.amazon.com/Milwaukee-DB303552-Surge-Hydraulic-Driver/dp/B01M1D259B/
I don’t mind the noise. Ridgid actually sold one for a minute but I think they discontinued it, maybe there’s still some floating around.
Stupid Youtube vids say they’re pretty good for driving screws but not going to be great if you’re using them with socket adapters for stubborn nuts and bolts.
Also there’s an M12 Surge. I would be curious to try one.
I am a finish carpenter so I am not going to be doing the nuts and bolts. Plus my bosch impact already has a 1/2 drive. I will say the cheap milwaukee m12 multitool is my favorite on the market, the brushless one has vibration control that makes it really hard to hold a straight line. The blade change sucks though. But I like the form factor and with the 3.0 ah battery it handles really well and works long enough for my tastes.
Add image, impact is now an automotive repair tool.
I don't see why you couldn't use a drill instead
drills don't have the driving power of an impact driver, if you use both you will come to know the difference
*obstructs your route*
that looks unwieldy
Those things are designed to drill big holes at a 90 degree angle, so between the large motor and beefy gear system, they need to be pretty damn bulky and long enough that the user can counteract the torque of drilling through 4” of wood.
>breaks your arm
Then you haven't used both. If total utter pantshitting desperation is in play you don't really require power tools but tools are cheap while my time (and wrists) have value. People younger than sixty are incapable of believing RSI is real but impact tools are much easier on the body.
When in doubt remember what people who do this stuff for a living use for given tasks.
This
You obviously haven’t used both. A modern brushless impact driver rated at 2000+ in lbs of torque will remove lug nuts that were recently torqued to 100ft-lbs. Try doing that with a drill.
Bragging about your ignorance only makes you appear more ignorant.