The Magnum Research BFR comes in 30-30 so a shouldered round is possible. However, why would you gimp yourself with a rimless round and moon clips? If you want a .22 cal you can use 22 Hi-Power.
they don't need to have moon clips. at least 2 examples exist of rimless extractors on revolvers. one was an early colt or sw the other is a bulldog.
I came up with the idea myself after listening to a boomer complain of the issue, but was horrified to find out it had already been done.
>early colt >bulldog
The only guns I know that would fit those criteria are SAA style guns with an ejector rod ahead of the cylinder to poke the rounds out. That's also how the BFR works so yeah you would probably not need moon clips, but for the OP pic, I can't see how you could avoid them.
Most bottleneck cases don't play nice in revolvers. There's a handful of examples like the old Taurus Raging Hornet in .22 Hornet, the .30-30 BFR, Picra makes some high-end competition revolvers in their own proprietary bottleneck cartridges, but it only tends to work with older cartridges with relatively low pressures and gentle tapers. Most of the time the brass end up stretching into the gap between the heads of the cartridges and the recoil shield and locking up the cylinder. There's tons of old articles on the subject in 1970's and 80's gun magazines. Back when silhouette shooting was super popular people were constantly trying to cram bottlenecked cartridges into revolvers to get an advantage. I.e. the .357/44 Bain & Davis.
they don't need to have moon clips. at least 2 examples exist of rimless extractors on revolvers. one was an early colt or sw the other is a bulldog.
I came up with the idea myself after listening to a boomer complain of the issue, but was horrified to find out it had already been done.
There's more examples. Early Manurhin MR73's sometimes came with 9mm cylinders. Ruger makes LCRs and GP100s in 9mm. And there's the famous Medusa revolver.
A low-pressure straight walled rimmed cartridge is ideal for a revolver. There's no challenge to that, it's just really big. Making what OP asked for work is a lot harder; a high pressure bottlenecked rimless case is the exact opposite of a good cartridge for a revolver.
cylinder gap losses depend also on bore area to caliber ratio. 1/4 the bore area of a 45 and 1/2 the diameter = twice as much the % of gap losses on parity of gap lenght and pressure.
while a 4 shot derringer, could have a 9inch barrel while be about as long a big 6inch barrel pistol.
5.56 is very barrel dependent. You'd probably end up with something only slightly better per-barrel length than 5.7, which I guess could be cool, just not as good as an actual rifle.
wthout reading any of the comments i'd say sure. Just some things I would think about: Like al revolvers, the gas expansion at chamber so careful how you'd hold it, also barrel would need to be long else i don't see the point, an FN7 would be better (unles you def want a revolver for reliability) This hypothetical revolver would have 6 shots and look pretty stupid
Yes of course
The Magnum Research BFR comes in 30-30 so a shouldered round is possible. However, why would you gimp yourself with a rimless round and moon clips? If you want a .22 cal you can use 22 Hi-Power.
they don't need to have moon clips. at least 2 examples exist of rimless extractors on revolvers. one was an early colt or sw the other is a bulldog.
I came up with the idea myself after listening to a boomer complain of the issue, but was horrified to find out it had already been done.
>early colt
>bulldog
The only guns I know that would fit those criteria are SAA style guns with an ejector rod ahead of the cylinder to poke the rounds out. That's also how the BFR works so yeah you would probably not need moon clips, but for the OP pic, I can't see how you could avoid them.
Most bottleneck cases don't play nice in revolvers. There's a handful of examples like the old Taurus Raging Hornet in .22 Hornet, the .30-30 BFR, Picra makes some high-end competition revolvers in their own proprietary bottleneck cartridges, but it only tends to work with older cartridges with relatively low pressures and gentle tapers. Most of the time the brass end up stretching into the gap between the heads of the cartridges and the recoil shield and locking up the cylinder. There's tons of old articles on the subject in 1970's and 80's gun magazines. Back when silhouette shooting was super popular people were constantly trying to cram bottlenecked cartridges into revolvers to get an advantage. I.e. the .357/44 Bain & Davis.
There's more examples. Early Manurhin MR73's sometimes came with 9mm cylinders. Ruger makes LCRs and GP100s in 9mm. And there's the famous Medusa revolver.
Feasible? Yes
Practical? no
have a nice day
God I wish
I'd rather have a 300RUM revolver
preferably made by Taurus so that if I survive, I can sue the shit out of them
>Taurus
Anything is feasible if you drink enough marijuana.
You don't drink marijuana, you inject it directly into your eyeballs.
They've made revolvers in .600 nitro express
A low-pressure straight walled rimmed cartridge is ideal for a revolver. There's no challenge to that, it's just really big. Making what OP asked for work is a lot harder; a high pressure bottlenecked rimless case is the exact opposite of a good cartridge for a revolver.
cylinder gap losses depend also on bore area to caliber ratio. 1/4 the bore area of a 45 and 1/2 the diameter = twice as much the % of gap losses on parity of gap lenght and pressure.
while a 4 shot derringer, could have a 9inch barrel while be about as long a big 6inch barrel pistol.
These things suck, rad as frick, but are as ergonomic as a cinderblock and shooting them feels like fisting one.
t. owns two
5.56 is very barrel dependent. You'd probably end up with something only slightly better per-barrel length than 5.7, which I guess could be cool, just not as good as an actual rifle.
wthout reading any of the comments i'd say sure. Just some things I would think about: Like al revolvers, the gas expansion at chamber so careful how you'd hold it, also barrel would need to be long else i don't see the point, an FN7 would be better (unles you def want a revolver for reliability) This hypothetical revolver would have 6 shots and look pretty stupid
You sound like an alien who's heard about what a revolver is second hand but never actually seen one.
Woudl I want to stand in front of it when you fire it? No. Would it take advantage of the round characteristics? No.
Tl;Dr: your a idiot
This. It'd basically be .22lr and flashbang combined.
if you hate having wrists yeah
the ballistics would probably be trash, but it would be cool to have a pistol that shared ammo with an AR-15.