Them Leopards though

From Wolski twatter
>I reconstructed and geolocated the route and losses of one of the two columns of the 47th mechanized brigade. Of course, I also used the work of other OSINT people, but many of the given locations were inaccurate and the place of the destruction of M2 and L2A6 was wrong.
Freeze frames from movies added to the orientation of what was where.
This column had a difficult fate: it was shot by drone-corrected artillery 3x, it defeated 2 groups of mines, and finally, while overcoming the second one, it fell under the fire of Ka-52's Wihr ATGMs and ATGMs as well as artillery.
Really KUDOS to the soldiers of this battalion because they went through hell that day.
P.S. location and slides from the second (west) column will be uploaded later. It's the one whose end was supposedly photoshopped.

Seems correct?

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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >y drone-corrected artillery
    Probably the most useful role of drones rn, everything else is mostly a meme.

  2. 11 months ago
    Cohort

    We have footage. No KA-52 seems present at all at the last stand and evac.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's after things have gone to shit, the KA-52 footage is while they're still in a single column.

      • 11 months ago
        Cohort

        Can you post/link? Havent seen it yet.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Here's the webm in question. Looking at it at "full" resolution, it looks like a match, with the Bradley up front turned around with ramp down.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            And the spam photo for comparison's sake. Looks like the Leopard took it right into the gun mount, which probably disabled it. Strictly speaking, abandooning is a decidedly sub-optimal call if the engine still runs, but I can understand not making the best call in the immediate aftermath of an emotionally significant event like that.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              would have been clearer to rotate the bottom image 180deg

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              I think withdrawing becomes difficult when the rear is blocked off by other vehicles.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >abandooning is a decidedly sub-optimal call if the engine still runs
              I'm pretty sure theres another photo where you can see the that Leopard has a track blown off, likely by a mine.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            i was pretty sure that the leopard got mobility-killed by a mine rather than a ka-52, because surely a ka-52 would have scored a direct hit on its target
            s u r e l y

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            I really would like to know why they bunched up and stopped there. Trying to evacuate, bringing up Bradleys to pop smoke and cover?

            Looks like the missile missed. Flew past the Leopard on the left.
            God these Soviet missiles are inaccurate.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              As unlikely as it sounds, seems like one of the Bradley guys is on fricking twitter.
              https://twitter.com/PanDrukar/status/1668189563901149185

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Losing Bradleys is bad, but showing the taxpayers that they can use them properly and maybe getting more thanks to that could be priceless, each bradley in Ukraine looks like a very good investment to ensure russia does not pose as a threat in the future when china chimps out in the pacific and USA needs to focus their resources there.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >God these Soviet missiles are inaccurate.
              Ka-52wobble.gif
              They are beam riding missiles and the helicopters are so wobbly the beam shakes around all over the place.
              Every single cam footage from a Ka-52 would indicate this, they just move all over the place before impact.
              The missiles themselves are probably accurate enough, it's the platform firing them with a laser jumping every which way.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous
              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous
              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Beam riders get less accurate at distance because the missile bounces around the dispersed beam since Russia cannot into PID tuning or something.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                moron, its beam rising missile, It looks to the rear for guidance, the laser cone has different frequencies depending on howe far from the center of the cone you measure. This gives the missile directions. As time progresses the cone is made smaller and smaller so that the missile hits pretty accurately. Those misses are just the laser being misaligned with the crosshair on the screen. It's a simple adjustment. Basically it's allowed to wobble so that it can maneuver more early on, then it's wobble is reduced to zero when near the target. It has nothing to do with the helicopter wobbling.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous
  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    It seems well researched. Just goes to show how challenging these maneuvers are. You can clearly see what the plan was to dislodge the enemy with a two pronged assault. Unfortunately they got whacked.

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Still kind of dumb the Ukies did this in broad daylight, when the drones clearly didn’t have thermals

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      And the Ukrainians have the night equipment, too. Those were Brads and Leo 2A6s, they definitely had the night-fighting capability (and by all accounts the Ukrainians seem to be owning the night better than the Russians so far in this push).

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Still kind of dumb the Ukies did this in broad daylight, when the drones clearly didn’t have thermals

        on telegram they said they started at 1am but mineclearing took way longer than thought because the russians put more mines there than there are toilets in their entire nation.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          I mean shit I guess I can understand poor intel on the mine situation, but what time did they get hit? And why not make use of MICLICs? They received a decent number of those, if I'm remembering the aid packages right.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            they had the soviet type of miclic and i think 2 finish leo2 based ones, but you can't just drive it over the field, you have to keep constant (relatively slow) speed and if the russians learned from the afghans they can put pressure plates ~5m behind the explosives to make the mines trigger beneath the vehicle.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Ever seen Stalker? You don't go in at night

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Which part of the front was this again?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      what towns was this closest to? trying to see where it falls on the map

      Robotyne

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    what towns was this closest to? trying to see where it falls on the map

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I was under the impression this is close to novodarivka but could be wrong

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        was thinking it was near rivnopil myself

        [...]
        Robotyne

        thanks

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    A lot of people forget also that mineploughs aren't made of an invincible material. Bar mines in the Gulf War were destroying ploughs and the associated vehicles, and there was a fair chunk of materiel loss as well. Ploughs are untested against soviet mines, which have enough explosive force to disable vehicles after up to 3 detonations. Ultimately they have to use MICLICs which is not feasible at the distances they need to cover, or demine by hand under mortar fire, or chew through multiple engineering vehicles.

  8. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not sure. three at the bottom starting from the right don't seem particularly relevant (though that might be just because the icons for units are stacked up if the intent was to show they match what's reported as being there) and the top left image I'm unsure about as well.

  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    he should stop doing russians' job for them

  10. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Question, is this area now under Ukranian control? If so, then all these vehicles were towed and are being repaired, no?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      who knows? good luck getting reliable info until the counteroffensive comms blackout ends

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      As far as it knows it's grey zone or Russia controlled but who knows.
      It's not in the same area where the Ukrainians already won some villages.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      There was video footage of their recovery and repair, yes.

  11. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    You know the germans still got it when the tanks can take that much shit and still protect the crew

  12. 11 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is ukrainian rear for 4+ days now.
      So much fo "failed" offensive.

  13. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Really KUDOS to the soldiers of this battalion because they went through hell that day.
    For driving into a minefield then running away?
    hahahahahahhahahaxaxaxaxaxaxaxa

  14. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >wolski
    you have to go back to wykop pl

  15. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >KUDOS
    Was that the whole point of all this? A KUDOS from some anonymous /k/ope poster?

  16. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    As annoying as the spam was, this breakdown of the incident is pretty cool anon. Good job to ruskies for actually putting together a competent defense and good job to ukies for getting most of their guys out of what was turning into a disaster.

  17. 11 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Seems perilous moving into an assault parallel to the enemy lines.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I belive after initial loses remaining vehicles decided to join the middle push because they could not get a breakthrough alone.

  18. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly pretty impressive. Modern technology is amazing.

  19. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Kudos and S to spit on their graves

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Most of them successfully evacuated though?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Anon I just wanted to be mean on the internet, let me be

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          "no!"

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      quite a few made it out
      https://twitter.com/PanDrukar/status/1668189563901149185

  20. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    looks like the ukies will be sent more to make up for this

  21. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

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