The US has purchased 81 Soviet-era combat aircraft from Kazakhstan

But for what purpose?
What value do 81 old Soviet-era air frames, an apparent mix of MiG-31 interceptors, MiG-27 fighter bombers, MiG-29 fighters, and Su-24 bombers, have to the United States, and how will these weapons most likely be utilized in the future?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    the complete and total destruction of women

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Borat is that u

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I have an earlier screencap

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/kHi4sSZ.jpeg

        the complete and total destruction of women

        >jpg
        plz frick off

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What song?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Killer Moon

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      she is actually a weird creature a myanmar-kazakh and yes it is a she and yes i was down bad back then

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        knows russian kazakh burmese and english very hi IQ

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >she is actually a weird creature a myanmar-kazakh
        Post a pic?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, I read her thread too on that vid. Very bizarre. If anybody here lived in Almaty, they could figure out who she was easily. Can't be many autistic Burmese girls running around there.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        knows russian kazakh burmese and english very hi IQ

        Yeah, I read her thread too on that vid. Very bizarre. If anybody here lived in Almaty, they could figure out who she was easily. Can't be many autistic Burmese girls running around there.

        Who are you talking about

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    current practice targets got boring so we want to use the real things for our pilots.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I wouldn't worry about it
    unless you are Russian, then I'd like to inform you that these planes will be transferred to Ukraine and used to do God's work killing Russians.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Too bad they are literally spare parts

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >the US now has MiG-31s
    oh no no no no flightbros are we about to get eternaled

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    salvaged for parts, they were like 20k a piece and noted to be entirely inoperable before they were auctioned

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      what good are MiG-31 parts to anybody outside of Russia and Kazakhstan, the only two countries that ever operated them?

      this is probably for intel

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        intel of what?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          MiG-31 systems

          there's no other reason to get MiG-31s, nobody else operates them and they're not gonna fricking start now. you'd have to develop a supply chain from the ground up to support them as well as train pilots and crews on an entirely new and unfamiliar airframe.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >MiG-31 systems
            The US has known literally everything about those for decades, moron.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Intel on 3 plus decades old gear
        homie they are refurb parts and frames

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >refurb parts and frames
          ON PLANES NOBODY USES? LEARN TO READ YOU FRICKING IDIOT

          the only way they could be "for refurb parts" is "for denying refurb parts to russia". which is another likely explanation but 100% not what your 90IQ ass thought because you still can't seem to grasp the fact that nobody else can do jack shit with non-functional MiG-31s. Even a fully operational one falling into Ukraine's lap wouldn't do them any good because of the lack of any supply chains to support them.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Nobody uses MiG 27, 29, or Su 24s
            I can think of quite a few that do

            >Muh 31s
            Its just part of the bid and would you look at that it's based off of and designed from the 25, and I wonder who uses those https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_Air_Force

            Are you being moronic on purpose? There's multiple models

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          intel of what?

          >what is threat analysis
          The absolute state of zoomer /k/.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Negotiations are easier if you buy the useless trash too.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >mig-31 examples
          >useless trash
          The US has never had their hands on any. Refer to

          [...]
          >what is threat analysis
          The absolute state of zoomer /k/.

          FFS the underage historically illiterate morons shitting up this board.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The US doesn't need 81 frames for systems intel. They would only need one, maybe two. I can smell your midwit basement dwelling B.O. from here

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They are not flyable you fricking moron

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It's 81 less planes the Russians can cannibalize for spare parts.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's 81 fewer

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >this is probably for intel
        >81 planes
        >80's tech
        Holy shit you're beyond moronic.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >this is probably for intel
        It's probably more to deny other countries from getting them either for intel purposes or bought for Russia through third parties
        The US bought Moldova's MiG-29s to stop Iran and North Korea using them for parts

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Stops Russia from getting much needed replacement parts

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Russia and Kazakhstan, the only two countries that ever operated them?
        homie, half of SU operated them
        Well, Mig-25, but it's same shit

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >what good are MiG-31 parts to anybody outside of Russia and Kazakhstan

        Depriving Russia of the spare parts it can't manufacture with literally only Boomers and some Gen X that didn't have the sense to ply their wares abroad as the laborer and brains to possibly jerryrig new production/refurbs.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Depriving Russia of the spare parts it can't manufacture

          The spare parts that Russia could build when it was, *check notes*, a communist country in the 1970, and it can't somehow build now that it's a modernized economy trading with China?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If the tooling and machinery from the 1970s is gone then no $400 lathe from Aliexpress is going to replace it. Hence why the USSR was able to produce 40 Tu-160s between 1984-1992 while it took Russia from 2001 to 2017 to finish a single Tu-160 from an unfinished air frame.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Depriving Russia of the spare parts it can't manufacture

              The spare parts that Russia could build when it was, *check notes*, a communist country in the 1970, and it can't somehow build now that it's a modernized economy trading with China?

              Even in countries with less fricked industry, it can be an absolute fricking nightmare to try and spin up production when full supply chains are defunct. You don't just need the plane factory, you need every factory that leads up to the plane factory. It takes time and money to work out and verify modern replacements, and even more time and money to figure out new production for things that don't have viable modern replacements.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They lost a massive amount of production capacity, resources and brains when Soviet Union collapsed, and they’re not even remotely as self-reliant as they used to be in commie days. Advanced technology doesn’t completely offset that, and I’d argue that being ”modernized economy” (if you want to call Russia one) doesn’t actually benefit their weapons industry, because it was one of those things that worked well even in Soviet times.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            How many Su-27 derived aircraft does Russia deliver every year again?
            Compare that to what they produced in the 80s.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            peak Dunning-Kruger
            >*checks notes*
            holy reddit

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The spare parts that the USSR could build when it was, *check notes*, a communist country in the 1970, and it can't somehow build now that it's just Russia a post communist dictatorship barely trading with China?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >modernized economy

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            *checks notes*
            Yes, that's correct. They can't.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >it's a modernized economy
            lmao. It's a shitty-ass petro-state that gutted it's own industrial capabilities in the 90's, and has put little to no money in developing any sector of it's economy outside of raw resource extraction. They're struggling to just refurbish their poorly maintained fleet of armored vehicles, and can't really produce new ones. The only thing they can do is buy dilapidated jets to cannibalize them for parts, and considering how Kazakhstan is one of the only other countries that actually has this particular plane (afaik, the chinks don't have any) they're the only ones the russians could even buy them from.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            it seems that um, *checks notes* you're a fricking homosexual and have to go back

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Can you please tell us how many new tank hulls has Russia produced in the last 30 years?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >now that it's a decayed third world resource extraction economy
            FTFY

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You're not wrong but anon was clearly taking vatnik's words at face value for the purposes of mockery.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >what good are MiG-31 parts to anybody outside of Russia
        Now you're starting to get it!

        >Depriving Russia of the spare parts it can't manufacture

        The spare parts that Russia could build when it was, *check notes*, a communist country in the 1970, and it can't somehow build now that it's a modernized economy trading with China?

        *checks notes*
        Yep. Seems it's actually 2024 and the USSR lost all of its manufacturing abilities in Poland and Ukraine along with what was called the great brain drain.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I remember that video. Funny how that shit probably seems like a luxury to the mobiks now. Good laughs, good times. If you had told me they would be using golf carts on the front line in a year I don't think I would have believed it.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >outside of Russia
        the entire point. russia cant get them.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >what's the point?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Too lazy to fight a war? Just buy all the enemy's weapons lmao

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >When dragons belch and hippos flee
          >My thoughts, Ankh-Morpork, are of thee
          >Let others boast of martial dash
          >For we have boldly fought with cash
          >We own all your helmets, we own all your shoes
          >We own all your generals - touch us and you'll lose.
          -excerpt from "we can rule you wholesale", the national anthem of Ankh-Morpork

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >claimed to be inoperable, only good for parts, provided at pricing indicating as much
      Yeah, Poland also did that. "Parts".
      Don't get me wrong, they probably are just going to be parted out (this is a poor post-Soviet state after all), but you can't really take a country's word at face value for these things.
      Especially a country that Russia tried/is trying to foment LPR/DPR-style separatist moments within their northern oblasts.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      probably to prevent them from being salvaged for parts by Russia

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    For Ukraine obviously dumbfrick they're familiar with those planes

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >they're familiar with those planes
      they're not familiar with MiG-31s

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        > not familiar with MiG-31s
        they had 80 mig-25s

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >speak russian
        >print manual from warthunder forums
        >lrn2fly
        Ez

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Refurb parts, possibly bought to deny selling the planes to Russians for use as parts

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >possibly bought to deny selling the planes to Russians for use as parts

      I think this is the most reasonable explanation. The Ukrainians don't use the MiG-31, the Americans don't need intel on it, or at least nothing that can be gleamed from non-functional planes, so denying the Russians parts seems the only option left.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ukrainians can use MiG-31's as dummy targets to waste Russian missiles

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Does Ukraine even have 81 breathing pilots left?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No. The last Ukrainian solider died two weeks ago.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    they want to park them in the eastern poland forests and fields near the border for the lulz

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    At the very least it keeps Russia from getting them.
    Depending on condition I'd add Iran into that.
    Forget Cessnas, Ukraine can turn them into flying bomb carrying bombs.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      if this shit can fly it wouldn't cost 20k a piece

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Replaces the engines with F404s

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Some egghead wants them.
    t. egghead

    If they were really 20k a pop that's only 1.5M, that's barely an email. People are writing news articles about some intern's project.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      the buyer is as suspect as the price.
      assuming they're only good for part examination and canalization, that's still more value then what is declared.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        *cannibalization

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Should be noted that it was a bulk offer of 2.26mil for all 117 jets, the US bought 81 of them so a cost of 1.6 mil or so.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        American goodwill can't be itemized on the invoice, but when you live next door to Russia it's worth more than $20mil.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Entire aircrafts with electronics and radar or just parts/airframes?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      unclear, but the original October offer noted that all 117 aircraft were not in operable condition, and being sold due to their modernization and maintenance being economically infeasible.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Seems insane that russia didn't do anything about it. Russians will lose the upper hand when it comes to the cost of war if those get to the ukranians.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I know that probably means the US just wants to prevent Russia from cannibalizing for spare parts, but imagine a MiG-31 outfitted with the latest HATO radars. Soviet form & function with American technology, if Reagan were alive to see it it would make him cum.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Ukraine doesn't have the space to really give the MiG-31 the standoff it needs to harass shit with while not getting shot down itself what with its turning radius. As much as I'd like to see someone shove a bastardized AN/APG-73 antenna plugged into an AN/APG-63(V)1 processor into a MiG-31 and throw Phoenixs onto the plane, it'd never happen because, based purely on intuition and not fact, I think they'd likely need to fly into NATO airspace to turn around and accelerate before launching and still have room to turn back and dodge the SAMs inevitably launched at them. I also doubt we actually have any Phoenixs lying around, though I've never went looking for them.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          A MiG-31 with western avionics and weapons would genuinely be the scariest 4th gen plane in the world

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Still worse and less relevant than the F-111

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No, it's piece of shit

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Frick no, you could slot modern avionics and equipment into an F-14 and you'd get a plane that can outperform it.
            >inb4 MiG-31 is faster
            It needs a lot of setup to get that fast and it can't stay fast for long, most engagements will not occur at its top speed.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If it were true then the US would have built it a long time ago

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Didn't this end up being fake news?
          >https://kaspex.kz/ru/announcement-kaspex/oproverzhenie-na-nedostovernuyu-informacziyu-smi-po-povodu-realizaczii-aviaczionnoj-tehniki/

          A MiG-31 with western avionics and weapons would genuinely be the scariest 4th gen plane in the world

          >Imagine an aircraft beaten by every worthwhile metric.

          Speed is cool but even Russia realised it's not everything, especially if the engines self destruct.
          If this was true the most likely outcome would be Nasa and potentially someone like Boom aerospace getting a tech demo aircraft like that time Russia loaned Nasa a TU-144.

          >https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/120315main_fs-062-dfrc.pdf

          >2024
          >the US is buying up 50 year old airframes from the Kazakhs
          >to stop the Russians from salvaging spare parts to keep their airforce functional
          frickin tragic

          Same as when they tracked down all F-14 parts and churned them to stop Iran from getting them.

          I hope if this is true there's atleast one MiG-31 at a museum somewhere, ideally next to an F-15 or SR-71/A-12.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Lemme translate this statement into plain english: The yanks bought all of it at the auction through middlemen, and we let them under the condition that all of it will be scrapped and melted down here.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >under the condition that all of it will be scrapped and melted down here
              Well, that's the official story anyway.
              It could be true but if CIA are sending these parts on to Ukraine and saying "hey, don't mention where these came from" then a story like that would just what they'd say.

              This is geopolitical, we really have no idea what's going on because there's good reasons for everyone involved to lie and both the official account and the assumed reality both seem pretty plausible.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          moronic solution for a problem that never existed in any western nation

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This dumb and a complete waste of money so obviously someone in the MIC will try it because they can.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >imagine mig31 with modern radar

          So it’d be a shitty interceptor with better radar. It’s just a marginally improved mig25, which the US got ahold of over 40 years ago and were shocked at how trash the plane that drove F15 development actually was.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The MiG-31's primary role was countering low-flying cruise missiles, and if the opportunity was present, shooting bombers before they could launch them. It was part of the PVO, a completely separate branch from the Soviet Air Force, dedicated to air defence.
          If aircraft or cruise missiles fly low enough, radar stations can't see them due to terrain masking. Unlike the MiG-25, the MiG-31 had look-down shoot-down capability, and relatively long range and endurance. If an attack was anticipated, it could fly at high supersonic speed, with a powerful radar, 'sweeping' through blind spots in the terrain at a very high volume rate. If it detected anything, it could engage from very long range.
          The Soviets were afraid of NATO cruise missile spam, and had a lot of territory to defend. To my knowledge, no other nation has formulated a requirement like that of the MiG-31.
          Of course, it can be used to shoot down anything, not just cruise missiles, but this is what it can do that can't easily be done by other planes.
          Since they are invading, not defending, Russia has been using its MiG-31s as a sort of aerial artillery instead, taking potshots at Ukrainian fighters from standoff distance.
          However, everything breaks down, and the Soviet Union is long gone. The reported price is low, so it's reasonable for the US to aim to deny Russia parts. Whether the sale happened or not is open to question. In war, the first casualty is the truth.

          23 mm gshk cannon probably stripped but still purchasable, it still fricks.
          In fact the plane goes mach3 and the Russians are still actively using them, so question why khazakstan not sold to Russia already is probably more interesting question.

          >building an interceptor out of steel
          >fricking steel

          Trash. And we’ve known it was trash since a pilot defected with one in the 80’s.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >they built an interceptor out of steel
            >out of fricking steel!

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          doesn't the Mig-31 only have a 20-hour engine lifespan under normal, non-wartime operation?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I don't think it is that low, but It was definitely a constant that the top-tier soviet jets needed engine rebuilds more than American ones.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That was the MiG-25, and only when at full afterburner.
            The turbofans on the MiG-31 are reasonably reliable by Soviet/Russian standards, and the aircraft is mainly limited by canopy heating rather than engine wear when it comes to high supersonic cruising.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              > high supersonic cruising
              > mainly limited by canopy
              Only if you're talking about Mach 2.5. Above that (Mach 2.8-3) the main limitation is the small methanol-water tank. The MiG-25/31 can't go far faster than M2.5 without MW injection and compressor temperature becomes terrible above Mach 2.5. The A-12/SR-71, XB-70 are the only manned aircraft that managed to reach a cruising speed of Mach 3(.2).

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous
  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >what purpose?

    WHo knows. The world wonders. Absolutely no idea.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Probably cheaper to buy them than to send the necessary equipment to Ukraine to destroy them.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    some of those are losttech for Russia - that will no longer be possible to acquire and to cannibalize for parts - rest will go to Ukraine - as spare parts mostly.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >strip working parts and repair MiGs in Ukraine
    >take remaining airframe, place it on airfield
    >???
    >Russians send 10 million dollar rocket to blow it up

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Mig-31 is one of the sexiest planes of all time, I really hope they can get at least 1 of them flying

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I've read in every thread about the MiG-25 that it's role had become obsolete, apparently the 31 is just a modernized version, how is it more relevant apart from the technological upgrade?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The MiG-31's primary role was countering low-flying cruise missiles, and if the opportunity was present, shooting bombers before they could launch them. It was part of the PVO, a completely separate branch from the Soviet Air Force, dedicated to air defence.
      If aircraft or cruise missiles fly low enough, radar stations can't see them due to terrain masking. Unlike the MiG-25, the MiG-31 had look-down shoot-down capability, and relatively long range and endurance. If an attack was anticipated, it could fly at high supersonic speed, with a powerful radar, 'sweeping' through blind spots in the terrain at a very high volume rate. If it detected anything, it could engage from very long range.
      The Soviets were afraid of NATO cruise missile spam, and had a lot of territory to defend. To my knowledge, no other nation has formulated a requirement like that of the MiG-31.
      Of course, it can be used to shoot down anything, not just cruise missiles, but this is what it can do that can't easily be done by other planes.
      Since they are invading, not defending, Russia has been using its MiG-31s as a sort of aerial artillery instead, taking potshots at Ukrainian fighters from standoff distance.
      However, everything breaks down, and the Soviet Union is long gone. The reported price is low, so it's reasonable for the US to aim to deny Russia parts. Whether the sale happened or not is open to question. In war, the first casualty is the truth.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    US is trying to one up based Russians for capturing their armor. Doesn't work like that though. You can't parade around weapons that you bought. Russia won.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >that 3panel

      It saddens me that I know enough about israelites to understand it.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        das good

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        care to explain it to us non-schizos?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Jews have a yearly ritual where they pour their sins into a chicken, torture it a bit, then kill it. They are then considered free from sin. Its like Thanksgiving but more evil.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous
            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              but its true

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >a yearly ritual where they pour their sins into a chicken, torture it a bit

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            but its true

            Only ultra orthodox israelites do that shit, those ugly weirdos who draft dodge in Israel and wear the pimp suits.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >capturing their armor
      The U.S. wouldn't care and they already gotten a t-90 from the Ukrainians

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    As much as we like to imagine it's for sneaky squirrel black ops intel, it's just as likely that the US saw a chance to make a quick buck by buying the air frames in bulk and stripping them for the re-sellable parts and recyclable alloys. They've had hands-on flying time with those models for 20+ years, there's nothing new to learn from them.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    no better way to stage a false-flag "Belarusian" air assault against Poland to justify a full scale NATO invasion of slavland.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    at 20k a pop it's 1000% worth it to Frankenstein as many working ones out of them as possible to convert them into a redux of those suicide drone Foxbats the Ukies have been using against refineries and factories

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      you realize that if they can repair one MiG 29 then Ukraine can just use it as...MiG 29?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        A single use suicide drone is extremely different than a combat worthy aircraft. Think before posting.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      if they even manage to cobble together 1 working aircraft, it'll be worth it.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    half of posters here have sub room temperature IQ, those aircrafts will be used for spare parts to keep existing MiGs and Su aircraft flying

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >US buying Russian planes
    Uuuuhhh....F35sisters, what happened? Wunderwaffen turn out to be a dud?

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    For the price, I doubt any of them are airworthy. Probably just spare part carcasses.

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    2 years into the special military invasion of mexico, russia has purchased all of canada's F-18 fighter jets

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Underrated af

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    "just 19.999 imperial dollars"
    I thing that someone in the US is making fun of Putin and his shasneeds kek

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They bought these planes so they could break the timespace continuum by cannibalizing all the parts to build a super engine that can break it.

  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fix them up, kit them out, ship them to our new NATO pals in Scandinavia, and then use them to fly in and drop bombs on the Kremlin and the Russian HQ.

    Russian AD is so feckless and paralyzed that they will think it’s their own aircraft until it’s too late, and then we perform the micro-ton neutron nuclear drop kick on Pussolini’s and Shoigu’s flaccid Russian asses.

    Shit lands on his ass, and the soundtrack plays:

    ?si=KbEy0f-toRpxm5fK

  31. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly going off the U.S. defense budget… at 20k a piece we probably just bought them to point at and laugh.. pretty sure we spend more on this every single time we lob a tomahawk…

  32. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Are those even the ‘real’ versions though, and not some gimped export variants.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Even if they were gimped, the most likely kind of gimping would be to avionics, sensor suite, etc. Stuff that the US probably already has information on.
      Harder to alter things like performance profiles, RCS, that sort of thing for export without the buyer getting real pissy, and that's likely the more useful information for the US. A better idea of how they fly and how they look on scope while flying.

  33. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they should donate a few of them to Pima. At the very least get a bubble canopy for the Mig 29, last time I was there it didn't look like it had a real canopy.

  34. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The planes were junkers so just for parts — either to deny Russia of them and/or to supply parts for allies. Still, $20k a pop is ridiculously low probably going into someone’s pocket.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The planes were junkers so just for parts — either to deny Russia of them and/or to supply parts for allies
      I assume they'll end up as parts in Ukraine with some non-repairable fuselages even getting dolled up as decoys.
      Denying the same parts to Russia is a nice bonus.

      The real story is Kazakhstan though, clearly they've been paying attention when Russian officials all said the Kazakhs are next after Ukraine. The real price and even what's changing hands is about alliances and military assistance and helping Kazakhstan stay neutral between Russia and China and not come under the domination of either one.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's incredible its taken this long for someone to mention that, this is a another Russian 'ally' making signs that it doesn't care what Russia thinks anymore. Might be the start of the Soviet Unions chickens coming home to roost

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >this is a another Russian 'ally' making signs that it doesn't care what Russia thinks anymore
          Not the first time they have, they made similar noises about letting mobiks flee there to protect them from the front, I believe they're voting on UN stuff in lock-step with the west too.

          This is just the furthest they've gone, actively cooperating with USA, i.e. HATO

          Russia is going to end up with Kazakhs, Georgians and Ukraine making good friends with each other and especially with HATO/USA as the immediate buffers of Russian containment.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No, they're migs

  35. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe US has some militarized ally that already denied the airspace for his enemy and needs just a little drop to turn the tide.

  36. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    USAF realized US made planes are shit and have no chance in a real war

  37. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >MiG-31 interceptors
    Zizsters our wunderwaffe....

  38. 4 weeks ago
    Kozue

    Ukraine is going to use them or spare parts.they will not immediately transition to f16s but continue to use theirs which are rapidly falling apart from over use.

  39. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >2024
    >the US is buying up 50 year old airframes from the Kazakhs
    >to stop the Russians from salvaging spare parts to keep their airforce functional
    frickin tragic

  40. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i wonder what ex soviet nation currently under threat and aligned with nato will get them

  41. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No Su-25?

  42. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    make one of those junk statues except its a giant mech made of planes

  43. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Mig-31’s and Mig-27’s
    I think I’m going to cum, Mig-27 bros we are so back

  44. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I know this plane from GS videos. It's the only Russian plane besides the su57 that can dogfight an f22.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      GS videos are unrealistic modded bullshit.

  45. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >But for what purpose?
    Stop Russia getting them when its time for total Russian Air Force Death

  46. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why is everyone saying mig-31, when the OP is showing an Su-30SM?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because of the words in OP's post, anon.

  47. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >But for what purpose?
    Russia is about to have its air force amputated without anesthetic and this stops Russia getting them when it will desperately want them. This should be fun.

  48. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Real answer, the Russians are running out of parts for their planes.Russian military jets wear out thir engines three times more quickly than western jets due to poorer less advanced metallurgy in e.g turbine fans. Russian military jets have taken massive losses (about 25%) but have also been kept in the air a lot, and Russia produces very few annually. The Russian air force has consumed much of its part inventory. Anticipating this becoming a crisis or Russia, the US has for very little bought out the most accessible stock of spares. As this crisis keeping planes in the air for Russia deepens due to part shortages , the western F16s from the Netherlands and Denmark that Ukrainian pilots have been training on for a year, equipped with HAARM for SEAD will go in. After SEAD (and Russia has already lost 700+ AA systems) they will permanently put the kerch bridge out of action. At that point the Russian Black sea fleet will be invited to surrender, some of it will, some will scuttle, some will be destoyed.

  49. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Kazakhstan is going through a very turbulent period politically, it may well be a form of bribe.

    The old soviet airframes were expensive at the time they were made and probably contain a lot of rare earth alloys.

    Another possibility is that the US wants to stop someone else (Russia) buying them, because despite being nominally obsolete one of these air frames can still destroy 50 modern tanks.

    Other angles; the US might be trying to stop key components like gyros falling into the hands of Iran, who might conceivably develop a JDAM style package for their scuds.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      also: kazaksyan is a gold mine if you want military junk. the country is so corrupt, the military bases are all in the middle of nowhere, many are totally abandoned. you can just walk into them.

      one guy broke into an abandoned hanger near bikoneur and found aknock off apolo shuttle, ibroke into places and found other things.
      you go up to wgoever wouldbe a witness, tell them you want to buy the thing which otherwise you would be syealing, load it into a truck and drive across the dessert.
      there are things parkedon the desert you wouldn't believed k.

      there's all a oviet junk, but also of black markrt just parked there. from Russia afghan war, from Chinese soviet war, Chinese hardware, some even movern.
      sorry some come from georgia but then movedto khazakstan when georgia tried to be euro. slaves, tigers, allnormal smuggle goods also but just in warehouse.

      good deal ison the old graz, but never hsving tiresor other external parts.or petrol. so if going to buy, bring own parts.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >there's all a oviet junk, but also of black markrt just parked there. from Russia afghan war, from Chinese soviet war, Chinese hardware, some even movern.
        its literally radioactive and dates back to nuclear testing anon

        https://www.nti.org/education-center/facilities/semipalatinsk-test-site/

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazakhstan_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction

        https://carnegieendowment.org/2022/02/14/how-kazakhstan-fought-back-against-soviet-nuclear-tests-pub-86404

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semipalatinsk_Test_Site

        The Soviet Union conducted 456 nuclear tests at Semipalatinsk from 1949 until 1989 with little regard for their effect on the local people or environment. The full impact of radiation exposure was hidden for many years by Soviet authorities and has only come to light since the test site closed in 1991

        ........................
        After the closure of the Semipalatinsk labour camp, construction duties were performed by the 217th Separate Engineering and Mining Battalion, who later built the Baikonur Cosmodrome.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The nuclear site is nothing, unhealthy dust.i an task real blyat and going places with no name. Whatever you want, I will fit in thy ass and walk to the

          >For $20,000 each they could scavenge them for parts and load these up with explosives
          Officially, everything is cut or shredded before export so even parts shouldn't be viable.
          The announcement was a little vague on whether it was parts or airframes that were cut but it did make it clear that it was exporting stuff that would be reduced to recycling-level scrap metal before export.

          Obviously cow shit, they are paying too sqash her. Coward. Pay is far more than 20, coming from the NASA black books.

          https://i.imgur.com/i3dxpF1.jpeg

          >there are things parkedon the desert you wouldn't believed k.
          https://caravanistan.com/kazakhstan/north/semey/kurchatov-polygon/

          is just a cement shit, hundreds if soviet shits. no I have seen things beyond hmderstans, like I not knowing what it is. some radar array set for ground not air, measure the explosion under ground. I have seen many missiles like scud, some sidewinder type, ttunguska parts, even ask old snow spiral tankin the sand. come from oblast , I want to belive in walking

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            enjoy your tumors its all radioactive they even tested mortars that dispersed radioactive particles en mass to test nbc protection vehicle designs, that's why all that shit was left there

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Boo hoo, nobody cares. You wear mask, take Iodine isotope, I have been many much worse places.

              Degelen and Sary-Uzen testing grounds, and RWA test sites
              There are 3 more testing grounds, all off-limits for tourists. Degelen, mountainous and forested, is considered 90% clean, but some parts are still dangerously radioactive due to accidents during explosions or from carrying over of radioactivity either from unsealing tunnels after tests, or via underground waterways.

              Sary-Uzen is similar to Balapan in terms of contamination, former use and geography, only without crater lakes.

              Test sites 4A and 4 were used for tests with radioactive warfare agents (RWA). RWA were liquid or powder-like radioactive mixtures dispersed by mortar shells or bombing from the air. This site is heavily contaminated and poses a serious hazard to people and animals. A physical barrier has been constructed around the area.https://caravanistan.com/kazakhstan/north/semey/kurchatov-polygon/

              [...]
              >they even tested mortars that dispersed radioactive particles en mass to test nbc protection vehicle designs

              Degelen is evil, you can get into the underground. Safe? No. Not the underground. There is also places like this on America, California. Again is mountains nobody goes.

              You don't even know the surface of the 4A tests. The people only know where it was dropped on the ground.

              Who do you think writes the caravan? We know them.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Degelen and Sary-Uzen testing grounds, and RWA test sites
            There are 3 more testing grounds, all off-limits for tourists. Degelen, mountainous and forested, is considered 90% clean, but some parts are still dangerously radioactive due to accidents during explosions or from carrying over of radioactivity either from unsealing tunnels after tests, or via underground waterways.

            Sary-Uzen is similar to Balapan in terms of contamination, former use and geography, only without crater lakes.

            Test sites 4A and 4 were used for tests with radioactive warfare agents (RWA). RWA were liquid or powder-like radioactive mixtures dispersed by mortar shells or bombing from the air. This site is heavily contaminated and poses a serious hazard to people and animals. A physical barrier has been constructed around the area.https://caravanistan.com/kazakhstan/north/semey/kurchatov-polygon/

            enjoy your tumors its all radioactive they even tested mortars that dispersed radioactive particles en mass to test nbc protection vehicle designs, that's why all that shit was left there

            >they even tested mortars that dispersed radioactive particles en mass to test nbc protection vehicle designs

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >there are things parkedon the desert you wouldn't believed k.
        https://caravanistan.com/kazakhstan/north/semey/kurchatov-polygon/

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          are things parkedon the desert you wouldn't believed k.
          >https://caravanistan.com/kazakhstan/north/semey/kurchatov-polygon/

          >there's all a oviet junk, but also of black markrt just parked there. from Russia afghan war, from Chinese soviet war, Chinese hardware, some even movern.
          its literally radioactive and dates back to nuclear testing anon

          https://www.nti.org/education-center/facilities/semipalatinsk-test-site/

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazakhstan_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction

          https://carnegieendowment.org/2022/02/14/how-kazakhstan-fought-back-against-soviet-nuclear-tests-pub-86404

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semipalatinsk_Test_Site

          The Soviet Union conducted 456 nuclear tests at Semipalatinsk from 1949 until 1989 with little regard for their effect on the local people or environment. The full impact of radiation exposure was hidden for many years by Soviet authorities and has only come to light since the test site closed in 1991

          ........................
          After the closure of the Semipalatinsk labour camp, construction duties were performed by the 217th Separate Engineering and Mining Battalion, who later built the Baikonur Cosmodrome.

          also: kazaksyan is a gold mine if you want military junk. the country is so corrupt, the military bases are all in the middle of nowhere, many are totally abandoned. you can just walk into them.

          one guy broke into an abandoned hanger near bikoneur and found aknock off apolo shuttle, ibroke into places and found other things.
          you go up to wgoever wouldbe a witness, tell them you want to buy the thing which otherwise you would be syealing, load it into a truck and drive across the dessert.
          there are things parkedon the desert you wouldn't believed k.

          there's all a oviet junk, but also of black markrt just parked there. from Russia afghan war, from Chinese soviet war, Chinese hardware, some even movern.
          sorry some come from georgia but then movedto khazakstan when georgia tried to be euro. slaves, tigers, allnormal smuggle goods also but just in warehouse.

          good deal ison the old graz, but never hsving tiresor other external parts.or petrol. so if going to buy, bring own parts.

          Semipalatinsk Nuclear Test Range, Model
          The Semipalatinsk Test Range, View North-West from Lake Zhaksymuz, providing a Good Overview of the Assembly Building and Tower as well as of the two Bridges, one Railway and one Road, built to test the Effect of the Bomb on Civilian Infrastructure.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            mutants as well!

            https://www.flickr.com/photos/martintrolle/albums/72157638122387574/with/11204101215

            The nation of Kazakhstan recognizes more than a million of their citizens as victims of Soviet-era radiation exposure. In one village adjacent to the test site, categorized as “minimal risk,” the Kazakh government allots each resident a one time lump sum roughly equivalent to $50 USD. Although their health is negatively impacted by the radiation, residents see themselves as resilient. Many believe that they have genetically adapted to survive the radiation and report that they have come to rely upon it. One villager claimed that “Our organism is different… now accustomed to radiation. For many years we were exposed to radioactive fallout, and now we eat it. Slowly and quietly, our bodies got used to it. Why do you think people don’t die [here], but only get a little sick?... Most of us can’t live in clean air—we need radiation to survive. Clean air is our death. We are not deformed, just a little sick.”[14] In the same manner, many within the village self-report that when they venture outside the area for supplies, they suffer symptoms such as headaches, dizziness, and stomach cramps, furthering the thought that they have come to rely on the radiation to live. Overall, residents have embraced the radiation as a sign of their own genetic adaptation.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >One villager claimed that “Our organism is different… now accustomed to radiation. For many years we were exposed to radioactive fallout, and now we eat it. Slowly and quietly, our bodies got used to it. Why do you think people don’t die [here], but only get a little sick?... Most of us can’t live in clean air—we need radiation to survive. Clean air is our death
              >Russia invades Kazakhstan
              >Meets the Helkhast

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous
            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >many within the village self-report that when they venture outside the area for supplies, they suffer symptoms such as headaches, dizziness, and stomach cramps,
              Good lord.

              With source material like this, Ukrainian game devs didn't have to smoke anything to come up with Stalker plot linse.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >"Humanity is the disease, we ... We are the cure" - local Kazach villager
              Ive played enough violent video games to know exactly where this is going... Big fence around Kazachstan NOW! Shoot everyone that tries to escape!

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Big fence around Kazachstan NOW! Shoot everyone that tries to escape!

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              My god, it's the progenitors of the ghouls.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >there's all a oviet junk, but also of black markrt just parked there. from Russia afghan war, from Chinese soviet war, Chinese hardware, some even movern.
        its literally radioactive and dates back to nuclear testing anon

        https://www.nti.org/education-center/facilities/semipalatinsk-test-site/

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazakhstan_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction

        https://carnegieendowment.org/2022/02/14/how-kazakhstan-fought-back-against-soviet-nuclear-tests-pub-86404

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semipalatinsk_Test_Site

        The Soviet Union conducted 456 nuclear tests at Semipalatinsk from 1949 until 1989 with little regard for their effect on the local people or environment. The full impact of radiation exposure was hidden for many years by Soviet authorities and has only come to light since the test site closed in 1991

        ........................
        After the closure of the Semipalatinsk labour camp, construction duties were performed by the 217th Separate Engineering and Mining Battalion, who later built the Baikonur Cosmodrome.

        https://i.imgur.com/i3dxpF1.jpeg

        >there are things parkedon the desert you wouldn't believed k.
        https://caravanistan.com/kazakhstan/north/semey/kurchatov-polygon/

        Today I learned that the Zone exists, and it is in Kazakhstan. Time to get an old Soviet hazmat suit with asbestos filters and go looking for artifacts. Good hunting, STALKER.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Semipalatinsk Nuclear Test Range, Map
          The proving ground was a circle of radius about 10 km. It had special test support structures. The ground was conditionally divided into 14 sectors. These included two fortification and physical sectors, a civil structures sector and a sector for sheltered or unsheltered placement of various weapons, materiel and experimental animals at different distances from the ground center.
          The civil sector included two three-storied brick and several cob work and prefabricated timber houses, portions of power supply lines and railway tracks with a bridge, portions of water supply and wastewater disposal systems, an industrial building, three underground tunnels laid at the depth of 10, 20 and 30 m to simulate an underground railway.
          The sectors also included 53 aircraft of various types, artillery weapons and armored vehicles (25 tanks and self-propelled artillery systems) to enable observation of blast effects. The post-explosion state of everything the sectors had was to indicate the shock wave power and damaging effects of light, penetrating and radioactive radiation.
          A similar effort was undertaken to study the damaging effects of new weaponry on living organisms (more than 1500 animals were placed in the respective ground sector).

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >A similar effort was undertaken to study the damaging effects of new weaponry on living organisms (more than 1500 animals were placed in the respective ground sector).
            Semipalatinsk Nuclear Test Range
            Dog, killed in the 1949 Nuclear Detonation.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              https://i.imgur.com/Q2rShDA.jpeg

              Semipalatinsk Nuclear Test Range, Map
              The proving ground was a circle of radius about 10 km. It had special test support structures. The ground was conditionally divided into 14 sectors. These included two fortification and physical sectors, a civil structures sector and a sector for sheltered or unsheltered placement of various weapons, materiel and experimental animals at different distances from the ground center.
              The civil sector included two three-storied brick and several cob work and prefabricated timber houses, portions of power supply lines and railway tracks with a bridge, portions of water supply and wastewater disposal systems, an industrial building, three underground tunnels laid at the depth of 10, 20 and 30 m to simulate an underground railway.
              The sectors also included 53 aircraft of various types, artillery weapons and armored vehicles (25 tanks and self-propelled artillery systems) to enable observation of blast effects. The post-explosion state of everything the sectors had was to indicate the shock wave power and damaging effects of light, penetrating and radioactive radiation.
              A similar effort was undertaken to study the damaging effects of new weaponry on living organisms (more than 1500 animals were placed in the respective ground sector).

              >more than 1500 animals were placed in the respective ground sector

              and how many conscripts?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >and how many conscripts?
                45000 including officers they walked them right into ground zero

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                including officers

                [...]
                >more than 1500 animals were placed in the respective ground sector

                and how many conscripts?

                >and how many conscripts?
                samegay sorry the 45000 was somewhere else

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totskoye_nuclear_exercise

                Sergey Zelentsov (1927–2017), a military officer who was the first to reach the middle of the hypocenter, described his experience in the following words: "Not reaching the area of strong radioactive contamination, we crossed the road which the columns of advancing troops had passed before us. It was empty and quiet around, only the radiometers were clicking, noting us of the increased level of radiation. The troops proceeded past the hypocenter, outside of the area of severe radioactive contamination. Directly in the zone adjacent to the hypocenter of the explosion, the ground was covered with a thin glassy crust of melted sand, crunchy and breaking underfoot, like a thin ice on spring puddles after a night frost. And there were no footprints on it, except for my own. I walked quietly along this crust, since the radiometer registered a level of radioactivity not exceeding 1 R/h."

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              literally worse than Hitler.

              Also Laika, the cosmonaut dog? There were no plans past seeing if dog would survive ascent to space. She was cooked as the capsule slowly overheated.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You Leigh, I did.

          >The old soviet airframes were expensive at the time they were made and probably contain a lot of rare earth alloys.
          nah the recovery cost would be greater

          [...]
          >Real answer, the Russians are running out of parts for their planes.Russian military jets wear out thir engines three times more quickly than western jets due to poorer less advanced metallurgy in e.g turbine fans. Russian military jets have taken massive losses (about 25%) but have also been kept in the air a lot, and Russia produces very few annually. The Russian air force has consumed much of its part inventory. Anticipating this becoming a crisis or Russia, the US has for very little bought out the most accessible stock of spares.
          [...]
          >Russia is about to have its air force amputated without anesthetic and this stops Russia getting them when it will desperately want them.

          Recovery cost is no if recycle on site. But obvious reason is to stop parts to Russia and Iran . Mig has very special radar.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >one guy broke into an abandoned hanger near bikoneur and found aknock off apolo shuttle, ibroke into places and found other things.
        It's worth a watch and probably the reason he got banned from Russia

        (the shot of him and his belarusian escort gf running across the open field in pitch black is kino)

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Tourist homosexuals. I have gun not camera, Ni stupid YouTube,

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Did you have a stroke anon?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I think he's just a very drunk kazakhstani stalker.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          he's the bald and sex tourist guy who likes andrew tate and kids A LOT?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yes
            Fortunately he keeps the PUA shit out of his videos

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yes
            Fortunately he keeps the PUA shit out of his videos

            I thought she looked like she was right off Seeking Arrangements.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >one guy broke into an abandoned hanger near bikoneur
        Multiple people over the years actually, also Baikonur is actually guarded by the FSB since it falls under russian administration.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The old soviet airframes were expensive at the time they were made and probably contain a lot of rare earth alloys.
      MiG-31 airframe is 49% arc-welded nickel steel, 33% light metal alloy, 16% titanium and 2% composites.
      The nickel and titanium are indeed valuable, the rest, not so much. As far as I know, the only REE used in aerospace alloys is scandium. Because it was used in very small amounts (0.1%-0.5%), typically in landing gear, extracting it would not be useful. However, the landing gear tubing, intact, could be valuable as scrap.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The old soviet airframes were expensive at the time they were made and probably contain a lot of rare earth alloys.
      nah the recovery cost would be greater

      Real answer, the Russians are running out of parts for their planes.Russian military jets wear out thir engines three times more quickly than western jets due to poorer less advanced metallurgy in e.g turbine fans. Russian military jets have taken massive losses (about 25%) but have also been kept in the air a lot, and Russia produces very few annually. The Russian air force has consumed much of its part inventory. Anticipating this becoming a crisis or Russia, the US has for very little bought out the most accessible stock of spares. As this crisis keeping planes in the air for Russia deepens due to part shortages , the western F16s from the Netherlands and Denmark that Ukrainian pilots have been training on for a year, equipped with HAARM for SEAD will go in. After SEAD (and Russia has already lost 700+ AA systems) they will permanently put the kerch bridge out of action. At that point the Russian Black sea fleet will be invited to surrender, some of it will, some will scuttle, some will be destoyed.

      >Real answer, the Russians are running out of parts for their planes.Russian military jets wear out thir engines three times more quickly than western jets due to poorer less advanced metallurgy in e.g turbine fans. Russian military jets have taken massive losses (about 25%) but have also been kept in the air a lot, and Russia produces very few annually. The Russian air force has consumed much of its part inventory. Anticipating this becoming a crisis or Russia, the US has for very little bought out the most accessible stock of spares.

      >But for what purpose?
      Russia is about to have its air force amputated without anesthetic and this stops Russia getting them when it will desperately want them. This should be fun.

      >Russia is about to have its air force amputated without anesthetic and this stops Russia getting them when it will desperately want them.

  50. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    America is openly saying they will melt for alloy which is sensible, but actually most of the money will be bribe, and they will be trying to destroy parts.

    Why?
    My guess is that these parts are old enough that Iran would actually have the capacity to manufacture them. A lot of this shit isn't well known even today, and Iran will work with whatever they can get.

    Straight away I think, gyroscopes. Gyroscopes designed for Mach speed, would work in ballistic missiles. Iran probably makes copies rather than try to reuse old ones

  51. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For $20,000 each they could scavenge them for parts and load these up with explosives and have Ukrainian pilots do kamikaze missions into Russian infrastructure.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >For $20,000 each they could scavenge them for parts and load these up with explosives
      Officially, everything is cut or shredded before export so even parts shouldn't be viable.
      The announcement was a little vague on whether it was parts or airframes that were cut but it did make it clear that it was exporting stuff that would be reduced to recycling-level scrap metal before export.

  52. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    23 mm gshk cannon probably stripped but still purchasable, it still fricks.
    In fact the plane goes mach3 and the Russians are still actively using them, so question why khazakstan not sold to Russia already is probably more interesting question.

  53. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Probably for training purposes. They might pit the MIGs against F-16s and F-35s in air to air wargames like top gun.

  54. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the dystopia we all been waiting for
    >Fighter jet : 20k
    >basic corolla : 22k
    Please dont violate the NAP as I commute to work in my MIG-29

  55. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I am drunk but I will tell you legend.

    There is places where no county, even before soviets was secret places in the desert mountains that are from Himalayas to Chechenya, whole area is no country.

    After USSR fell nothing happens, but then old elite later became afraid of new Russia and putins assasins. So elites went to the ancient places in the mountains with whatever they could take.
    In these mountain areas are thousand year treasures, many Are just sit on a cave, anyone who goes finds other treasures in cave but can't take. Mountain is like end of the line. In treasure is also many evil things, nuclear bomb, disease bomb, poison gases, bodies of important people, gold, but important machines as well from tanks or planes or industry. To me I don't know what they are but they just sit.

    Why nobody go there, google maps, you think not real place but I say is real, from space you can see the things, half But even hidden. Nobody goes because not knowing, to go is easy. To remove treasure is much harder.

    I have one treasure from that place, piece of a machine I pulled off as souvenir. I went many places to buy many serious things but those were normal military places. The mountain is like a church.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Where to look on Google Maps?

  56. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So what is Kazakhstan's perspective here? Surely they know by now they can't rely on Russia as a reliable partner. I'm sure vatniks could come up with some bullshit excuse for an invasion. And yet they are larger than Ukraine and are a sparsely populated country. Could Western countries even have a presence in Central Asia? Is China support enough to deter Russia? Would Chang raise an eyebrow and make Ivan understand?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Could Western countries even have a presence in Central Asia?
      It would not be the first time.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Game
      Spies, diplomatic intrigue, small wars.
      It was the 19th Century Anglo-Russian Cold War.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      nah dude we are fricked we no one cares about us
      -our basic infra is rotting faster than we can train people let alone build new infra
      -US is moving away from oil so no petroleum buxx for us all perto industry is exxon backed and the contract will end in 2033
      -russia failing at everything imaginable will have bad consequences on us too
      -our moronic leaders wasted 30 year of independence and 30 years of pertobuxx building a capital in the middle of fricking nowhere to suck putins wiener or something and only now they are slowly realizing their mistakes...
      -our moron boomers just kept living as if they were still under communism and kept suck their obviously moronic leaders wieners

      >she is actually a weird creature a myanmar-kazakh
      Post a pic?

      no. its not that hard to find anyway

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        t. negative xp

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        based slant eyed man of the wide open steppe. boomers are cancer everywhere bro they will be gone soon inshallah

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Hey buddy what city you from? I’ve been to KZ a few times most recently in Feb, I would say infrastructure has improved since my first visit in 2014 (the capital doesn’t count its bizarre)
        Find something to export to the west utilizing the cheaper kz labor

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          are you talking about cities?
          pertobuxx werent completely wasted of course, thankfully, and independence finally allowed us to build infra that make sense to us but the thing is soviets build a central heating system as in one plant in the middle of the city produces heated water (and shit ton of co2 look up "almaty smog" pics on google) for the entire city that is used to heat houses during the winter heated water must be somehow transported right? and how is that done? with pipes... underneath the roads... and these pipes need to be replaced like every 15 seconds meaning frick your new roads homie (and never-mind the energy losses inherit to such a system) and im not even gonna get into the fact that our soil is garbage to build on and how these pipies change temperature levels of the soil and how that leads to holes on these roads.
          It was done like this to have total control over the public. Ghost of Stalin still haunts this rotting body of USSR

          well there isnt much to find to export. all the oil and minerals are already being exported and by the looks of it our next big selling export good will be labor itself since our population has been growing non stop ever since the independence while economy lagged behind all these people will need to find jobs yknow.
          and export to where? we are the worlds largest landlocked country with no real industry and our best trade partners are fricking russia and china 2 of the largest failed states on the planet our uzbek and kyrgys friends are poorer and worse off than us.
          as for the planes being sold frick it who cares. loads of russians came here seeking refuge. i welcome them. even if they could be used to justify one more special operation
          yknow being a frickall country in a frickall place is fine if peace is maintained but even that is not given to us
          if we are gonna maintain stability we will have to do it by ourselves for ourselves and just hope russians wont intervene (they will)
          bad luck i guess.

  57. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Some will be refitted to act as aggressor aircraft, most will be converted to drones and used for target practice and weapons testing. This is hardly the first time such purchases have been made.

    So thanks for the stupidass question. A thread died for a question you could’ve googled.

  58. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The mig31 has to be the ugliest thing to ever exist. It looks like it maneuvers like a brick. I guess as an interceptor it just has to go fast in a straight line but as a fighter it seems completely worthless.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The Abrams has to be the ugliest thing to ever exist. It looks like it maneuvers like a brick. I guess as a main battle tank it just has to drive and shoot, but as a fighter it seems completely worthless.
      It is not a fighter.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Designed for long range escorts for bombers
        >not a fighter

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Getting there and killing enemies with BVR missiles before they can engage your bombers and then blasting through the engagement to spend ten minutes turning around to come back for another pass is not exactly what fighters are built for.
          Difference between cavalry fighting with sabres or with a lance.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Correct. Not a fighter. F-22 can drop SDBs, but it's still a fighter, not a bomber.

  59. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ywn buy a jet for 20K
    feels bad man

  60. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Russia probably shouldn't have publicly said "Kazakhstan is next", should they?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://www.newsweek.com/putin-ally-russia-kazakhstan-invade-1796484
      Putin Ally Suggests Russia Should Invade Kazakhstan Next

      A Russian journalist has suggested that Moscow has the "historical right" to Kazakhstan, a former Soviet republic that gained independence in 1991.

      Dmitry Steshin, a correspondent with the Kremlin-friendly tabloid Komsomolskaya Pravda, was asked in an interview on the outlet's radio station about comparisons between Ukraine and Kazakhstan, a central Asian country with which Russia shares a 4,750-mile border.

      "The situation in Ukraine is being mirrored clearly in Kazakhstan. There are enormous regions populated by Russian speakers there too," said Steshin in a clip tweeted by Francis Scarr of BBC Monitoring, which as of Tuesday morning, had been viewed more than 23,000 times.

      Among the Kremlin's justifications for its full-scale invasion of Ukraine was the protection of Russian speakers in the Donbas region.

      A pro-Kremlin journalist has said that Russia has a "historical right" to Kazakhstan.
      When asked by the presenter about whether there are some people in Kazakhstan who believe that Russia wants to take the north of the country "according to the Ukrainian scenario," Steshin responded: "we have a historical right to those lands."

      "It's an industrial territory," he continued, "those are cities which were built by our ancestors, why did we give them those cities as gift in 1991?"

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >A Russian journalist has suggested that Moscow has the "historical right" to Kazakhstan, a former Soviet republic that gained independence in 1991.

        >Actually, Taipei has always been Chinese, and must be liberated.
        >Actually, Tibet has always been Chinese, and must be liberated.
        >Actually, the Malvinas have always been Argentinian, and must be liberated.
        >Actually, Ukraine has always been Russian, and must be liberated.
        >Actually, Kazakhstan has always been Russian, and must be liberated.
        >Actually, Riben shěng has always been the easternmost Chinese province, and must be liberated.

        Sometimes I wish people would come out and admit 'we want this land, so we are going to take it'.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          , the Malvinas have always been Argentinian, and must be liberated.
          They have never been apart of Argentina

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >apart of Argentina
            You mean "apart from Argentina"?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous
              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You can be apart from something but not apart of something.
                That's just not how the King's English works.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                doesnt matter since he meant "a part of"

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          We tried that but everyone was all "boo hoo colonialism" and "waaaaah stop exterminating my people and stealing all our most sacred treasures"
          There's just no pleasing some people

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous
        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          https://www.newsweek.com/putin-ally-russia-kazakhstan-invade-1796484
          Putin Ally Suggests Russia Should Invade Kazakhstan Next

          A Russian journalist has suggested that Moscow has the "historical right" to Kazakhstan, a former Soviet republic that gained independence in 1991.

          Dmitry Steshin, a correspondent with the Kremlin-friendly tabloid Komsomolskaya Pravda, was asked in an interview on the outlet's radio station about comparisons between Ukraine and Kazakhstan, a central Asian country with which Russia shares a 4,750-mile border.

          "The situation in Ukraine is being mirrored clearly in Kazakhstan. There are enormous regions populated by Russian speakers there too," said Steshin in a clip tweeted by Francis Scarr of BBC Monitoring, which as of Tuesday morning, had been viewed more than 23,000 times.

          Among the Kremlin's justifications for its full-scale invasion of Ukraine was the protection of Russian speakers in the Donbas region.

          A pro-Kremlin journalist has said that Russia has a "historical right" to Kazakhstan.
          When asked by the presenter about whether there are some people in Kazakhstan who believe that Russia wants to take the north of the country "according to the Ukrainian scenario," Steshin responded: "we have a historical right to those lands."

          "It's an industrial territory," he continued, "those are cities which were built by our ancestors, why did we give them those cities as gift in 1991?"

  61. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >But for what purpose?

    To stop Iran getting them.

  62. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The article says
    >Spare parts
    >Decoys to put on airfields so Russia sends their wunderwuffe missiles to blow them up
    There. Also I am sure if you could put some engine in it and get it in the air somehow, you could throw them somewhere....

  63. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    False flags

  64. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Kazakbros? We were buddies!

  65. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why is the image a Su-30?

  66. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They're obviously being fixed up for a false flag terrorbombing of some insignificant but soon to be martyred NATO member border village

  67. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    lmfao, nafo mig 31's

    ive seen it all

  68. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    America is buying Soviet/Russian aircraft because America forgot what style was because of their obsession with stupid shit like "performance". 50% better low alpha control or 10% better RCS mean nothing in the face of things like "does your plane give pilots a boner" and "do your ground crews feel like they're maintaining a corporate product or Rance-sama given wings?". Your pilots might be better on paper, but when it comes down to a sweaty naked locker room dispute, who is the rapee, and who is the raper?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      that plane looks like it has autism

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        True, I have Autism and I look like that plane

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You sexy autist.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >instead of this we got the Su-57 and an X-32
      If only you knew how bad things really are

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >who is the rapee, and who is the raper?
      Ancient Russian proverb

  69. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sad that they didn't buy any of the Su-27 family planes

  70. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it’s cool looking; I’d buy it if I was crazy rich

  71. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They'll be placed in museums to be preserved for future generations as it's clear that Russia is trying to self-destruct and obliterate all traces of their culture and history from the face of the earth along with them.
    Real talk, they might be buying these solely so Russia can't, since they seem to be sourcing a lot of their war material by buying it from abroad now. The idea of sending these to some militaria museums is still possible since there's not really any reason to want these otherwise. Even if they were supposedly for Ukraine, they'd be better off using our outdated models as they're easier to fly and superior to their eastern counterparts even now. Only thing I'm really opposed to offloading on them is the A-10s because frick you I like the titanium bathtub ground assault gunship, it takes a punch and keeps going because frick you and your chinkshit commie missiles. I want to see an A-10 fire a burst into the Three Gorges Dam someday, I'll be damned if you just give them to Ukraine for them to keep in perpetuity until they're left to rot in some field. If they get any then they have to give them back.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It would be an unspeakable war crime to hit the Three Gorges Dam.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Would be cool AF and save our troops lives.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        And?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Reddit tier comment

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Reddit is literally owned by the CCP, go frick yourself traitor.

  72. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >The US has purchased 81 Soviet-era combat aircraft from Kazakhstan
    To deny the Russians those birds and parts, to transfer them to Ukraine, to pay the Kazakhs and try to peel them away from Russia diplomatically.

  73. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >still no wings for the MiG-25 at the Wright Patt Museum

  74. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Aggressor aircraft, spare parts.

  75. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >But for what purpose?
    Denying the enemy transportation.

  76. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I could have bought a MiG for $20k
    wtf bros, I'm despondent

  77. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    direct your immeasurable autism elsewhere, away from this board. additionally keep your sick fantasies to yourself and for your therapist, homosexual.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >direct your immeasurable autism elsewhere, away from this board
      Good luck driving autists off PrepHole, anon.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Like ten people had to reply to sperg out about me joking about the MiG-31 getting a NATO radar, I don't think I'm the autistic one here.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >haha i only pretended to be severly moronic

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          yeah dawg a post that advocates for doing something at enormous cost because "it would make Reagan cum" is definitely a serious proposal and you need to dogpile on it to explain why it wouldn't work logistically. It's me whose autistic here.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Are you seriously complaining about autism on PrepHole?

  78. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's for spare parts. Shit's probably not in the fighting condition.

  79. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The planes are going to be used in a false flag attack.

  80. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Day 999 of America's special military operation to decartelify Mexico
    >Brazil buys 81 aircraft, including F-4 phantoms, F-111s, F-16s, and Mirages from a NATO member to help Mexico.

  81. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I hope we keep on focussing on Kazakhstan. They're very obviously turning away from Russia and looking towards both the west and china. And due to their strategic location I think we shouldn't be too harsh of they want to keep both us and china happy.

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