The Question of Penal Soldiers

With Russia increasingly relying on convicted criminals - including those of more severe crimes than seen commonly in Wagner - what is Ukraine to do when they defeat Russia if these soldiers refuse repatriation or Russia refuses to accept them? Should they be forcibly deported anyway (at gunpoint), or simply liquidated? Or perhaps the best use would be as forced labor: there's going to be a lot of hazardous rubble, UXO, and just general grunt-work to do post-war. Slave labor would cut costs, afterwards you can kill or deport them. And since they're murderers, rapists, etc., no one is likely to care if they get killed by mines or deadly chemical poisoning.

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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Who cares? All slavs are smug, lying inbred morons. We should nuke all of Eastern Europe and turn it into a parking lot for Germany.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      hello mentally stable, responsible, employed, volunteering, married-with-children, church-going moderate.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Everything before the word "with" is true.

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >increasingly relying on convicted criminals
    >Prigozhin complains that he's not allowed to hire them anymore.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      He's not. The MOD is hogging them now. OP pic murdered a 90 year old woman to rob her apartment.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Pfc. Raskolnikov

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous
        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          I like how westerners often think of Dostoyevski and his stories in some mysterious, spiritual way, searching for some "deep russian soul"™ and heavy morale dilemmas, whereas dude just wrote about mundane tuesday in russia.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, because the MoD is now recruiting them directly in to the Russian Army. And unlike Priggie, they ain't asking for volunteers.

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Execute them for bants

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    people like them can't help themselves. inevitably they will commit warcrime and then Ukraine can deal with them as usual

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why do slavic alcoholics love committing war crimes?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Tradition

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Going by law they should find a place for them to live, whether that be in Ukraine itself or another country that is willing to accept them. You can't force to go back to Russia if they don't want to and they can only be incarcerated/executed if they're given a fair trial, and you aren't gonna execute them all anyway, I mean, the entirety of the wehrmacht didn't get executed, so I don't see why all russians POWs would get executed.

    The truth is that there's gonna be a bunch of russians in Ukraine after the war ends and someone's gonna have to take them in.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Russia will be forced to or they'll get the treatment of German fifth columnists post-WW2. Which was incarceration or mass execution. No one cared then and no one will care now, especially since these aren't "merely" fifth column traitors or enemy belligerents but scum from prisons.

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ukraine just has to reasonably prove that they don't need to fear inhumane treatment and a fair process, if necessary, once the POWs are back in Russia.
    They can work it out in the peace deal that Russian combatants get sent back to Russia immediately and Russian citizens who only have a Russian passport may apply for a temporary Ukrainian citizenship, as long as they agree to vacate the home if they are squatting in one with an original owner, make their own living, they learn Ukrainian to an acceptable degree within a year and pass a citizenship test.
    Obviously anyone with a military or criminal record should be sent back to Russia as well.

    I actually tried to discuss the potential issue of the population exchange (including all those kidnapped Ukies stuck in Siberian orphanages and work camps) after the war with my fellow europoor friends, but they look at me like I'm moronic.
    I think it doesn't take a genius to understand that Ukraine wants to cleanse itself from any russianness once the war is over and no one can really blame them.
    So maybe people need to figure out how that is going to work in a practical sense sooner rather than later. Otherwise forcing the Russians to go back to their russki mir at gunpoint will be the humane variant.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I hope some nerds on PrepHole aren't the only people thinking about this. I know at least with high-profile traitors the Ukrainians are simply murdering them, which is pretty practical. You can just lie and say you're investigating the crime and then do nothing.

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    > if these soldiers refuse repatriation
    then deport them
    you know
    like every country in the world does when dealing with people that don't have the right to live there, it's not about whether they want to or whether they like it, there is only one option on the table: frick. off.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      POWs actually have a right to refuse repatriation if they reasonably fear reprisal. Legally, anyway. In practice...well, they need to be disallowed from doing that, and in a way that is quiet enough that no one with a conscience need take notice.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >POWs actually have a right to refuse repatriation if they reasonably fear reprisal
        I didn't know this, is it in the Geneva conventions?

        I can't think of another country that would willingly take them, maybe one of the non-Russia CIS states might do. Send them to Siberia or something, that usually works.

        In the short term, they can join a labour battalion and help clean shit up and clear UXO. After a few years doing that, maybe Ukraine might even feel like they've earned a place.

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