> The post includes an audio intercept of an enemy soldier’s phone call, as evidence.
>“(Our) boys were somewhere near Berdyansk,” a fighter from Moscow’s Donbas proxies can be heard saying.
>“Without pay, without any f***ing anything. I gather they weren’t even being fed. They were then deployed to the front line. After sitting there for a while, they started to move back, only to clash with Russians. The Russians completely wrecked them. Imagine that kind of army.”
How does that happen? Isn't that what IFF is for?
https://english.nv.ua/nation/russia-attacks-its-proxies-in-friendly-fire-incident-in-donbas-50255486.html
>How does that happen?
The Russians see their meat shields trying to get out of standing between Russians and bullets, therefore they shoot them until they go back to being where they should be. Working as intended.
This. Donbaboons are idiots. Not even useful, just idiots.
They're using press gangs and forcing people to join, you mongoloid. Save your bile for those who willingly do Pootin's bidding (i.e. R*ssians too cowardly to just say no).
You're not supposed to say anything moron. And yes russians are homosexual cowards.
>get forcibly conscripted to fight a war you don't want any part of
>get shit equipment
>get no training
>get no pay
>get no food
>get used as meat shields against Ukies
>then get killed by your Russian "allies"
I think I hate Donbaweans more than Russians. If you aren't going to stick up for yourself against the Russians, at least fricking defect to the Ukies. Do something other than being a fricking pushover
>at least fricking defect to the Ukies
It's too late for traitors to un-traitor themselves. they shit in this bed, they sleep in it. Forever.
>It's too late for traitors to un-traitor themselves.
Unironically untrue. Anything that denies enemy the resources without having to expend your own is a good thing, even better than defeating them on field of battle.
Convincing enemies that surrendering is a better option than continuing to fight is excellent outcome in any war. You spare your own soldiers, resources and time. There's literally no downside.
Dombabians call themselves "Island of unwanted man"
What they were thinking?
Though Russia would bring them wealth and prosperity.
Nothing new for propaganda on weak souls.
They are traitors what did they expect?
They're disgusting traitors getting exactly what they deserve.
Russians are killing as many Russian Ukrainians as they can, can't make this shit up.
The DPR/LPR have been conscripting guys for 8 years, plus Ukraine had conscription before the conflict. Most of the dudes you see fighting have some form of military training
Also, anytime I've seen the Donbabwe militias on the front they always have AK-74's, a helmet, a uniform, etc. I'm not saying they aren't 1960's eastern bloc tier equipped, but it's not like you morons claim with your
>THEY ALL HAVE MOSINS
Even the dudes who do have Mosins have scopes on them
Yeah they look silly, but they have the basics and fill the frontline gaps
>Even the dudes who do have Mosins have scopes on them
legendary tier cope
I dont think you even know what cope means. The mosins are only used in sniper roles which they are okay at. Yea its not modern but they arent even the only army that still uses modernized mosins in sniper roles.
>The mosins are only used in sniper roles
How do you know this?
Awful lot of snipers. Crack shots, those Donbabweans.
>Yeah they look silly, but they have the basics and fill the frontline gaps
Terminal cope.
>IFF
Anon.. donbabweans are lucky if they get modern uniforms and rifles. They aren't expected to survive.
Ahahahahahahahahah, dombabians are hohols so we don't care, ahahahahahahahahah.
Not true. Glorious Russia white savior is fighting for Independent Donbas which NAZI Ukrops have been GENOCIDING. Donbas life is equal to Russia life! SLAVA DONBAS! Do not listen to this Nazi hohol disinfo!
>How does that happen
how have you never heard of blocking forces?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrier_troops
At this point, friendly fire on Dombabweans isn't even news anymore. It happens at least once per week.
As well as "friendly fire" which is just literal fighting over loot or ideological differences.
Could they go so far as to be pressing Ukrainian citizens in areas captured since February into service as well?
You'd have to be criminally moronic to give a Ukie a gun as a Russian.
>You'd have to be a Russian to give a Ukie a gun as a Russian*
Ftfy
gun?
Anon they are merely meant as arty/mortar bait. All they need is a steel helmet to (vaguely) resemble a grunt from afar. Who does not comply get shot by the chechen NKVD barrier groups hidden behind them. Who tries to defect get shot. Whom finds a weapon somehow and tries to use on them get shot.
It also is beneficial for vatniks as they are looking to purge all ukranians and russian ukranians whom have roots in the area, only to be replaced with their penal colony transplants. This is why they are mass abducting children to be sent forcibly to vatnikstan or "relocating" entire villages to Siberia.
Basically what they started in places like Bucha (systematic extermination, no matter you allegiance) but did not have time to complete.
There have been rumors that they have planned that for later this year but nothing substantiated yet.
Yes they have been doing it, at least the ISW has been reporting on it extensively. They are drawing this from multiple sources, some more credible than others. But it seems on the balance of things men in 'liberated' areas are being press-ganged into 'volunteering'.
Forced labor moreso than fighting. Digging ditches, loading/unloading crates from vehicles, trash removal.
Forcing or Coercing an occupied civilian into your military is a big, BIG war crime.
>Geneva Convention IV, Article 51, first paragraph, of the 1949 Geneva Convention IV provides: “The Occupying Power may not compel protected persons to serve in its armed or auxiliary forces. No pressure or propaganda which aims at securing voluntary enlistment is permitted.
>Geneva Conventions III and IV, Article 130 of the 1949 Geneva Convention III and Article 147 of the 1949 Geneva Convention IV provide that compelling a prisoner of war or a protected person to serve in the forces of a hostile power is a grave breach of these instruments
>Russian Federation, Regulations on the Application of International Human Law: “It is prohibited to compel the population in the occupied territory to serve in the armed or auxiliary forces of the occupying power.”
I know this is Russia we're talking about, but this isn't "oops the kn-22 accidentally hit a refuge camp" or "Pvt fricknuts got funny with the dicky" where it can be excused down to an individual's actions and is somewhat accepted to happen eventually, somewhere. This is something high-level and structural, something a general or whatever would have to sign off on. If a Russian high-ranker was caught doing this there would be serious calls to see him swinging from a tree, because it's African warlord tier moral degeneration.
They've been pretty dubious to say the least, but I don't think Russia would go this far
Can't be an occupied civilian if there was a free and fair referendum to form a new people's republic, Anon.
creating secret bioweapons against international laws is also a big, BIG war crime and yet USA does it anyway.
>Russians and Ukrainians are one people, they share blood and history
>Ukrainians are creating bio weapon that will target the Russians based on their DNA
never, ever will i understand vatniks
There is no Ukraine. Ukraine and Russia are one people, but hohols are also pigs who are led by israelites but they're also nazis. Only we can save the Ukies from the evil west by raping and killing them all.
still spreading vatnik shit? i thought weve been through this...
wasnt russia meant to release a huge document covering what they found in ukraine? so where is it? lmao
just nuke them then, you homosexuals
alright, anon. i'm gonna come clean. the bioweapons are real, we got away with it, and now you have 2 weeks to live. i'm sorry you had to find out like this.
>Muh WMDs
Alright George Bush, calm down and take your meds
>but I don't think Russia would go this far
its only a warcrime if you are prosecuted and convicted for it
>African warlord tier moral degeneration
Welcome to Putin's Russia.
I can only assume you have not been paying attention to the past 23 years.
Putin wasn't always bad. In the early 00s he was just a normal autocrat that tried to stabilize Russia after it's lost decade(s). People could criticize the government and lead a normal life.
It's around 2008 where things started to go south. If Putin had left after two terms people would remember him fondly and he would have been one of the two or three decent Russian leaders since... Peter?
This war was always his plan, the very first thing Putin did when he was elected was to change the Russian anthem back to the Soviet anthem.
>Putin wasn’t always bad
Volgodonsk remembers.
Catherine was alright.
Same could be said for Hitler.
Putin has always been trying to restore the Soviet Union, it's why this war has happened at all.
It's his second great attempt to bring back former territories, in the only way he knows, and in a way he thought they'd accept, only to be told "Go Frick Yourself", which by its very event, shatters the illusion that territories would be happy to re-unify into the Neo-Soviet Union (of course with Putin heading it as the leader of the largest contributor).
He got bloody close the first war, with the puppet president of Ukraine at the time drafting the bill, only for Ukraine to rebel and boot him out. He's been in denial ever since, it just took 8 odd years for him to deny it enough to forget.
What's the west going to do? Prosecute them?
Also by this point Russia has fully committed to the war and has accepted it's own destruction to keep Putin's farce going a little longer. They stopped caring as they're going down anyways. Not a rational mindset, but it is what it is.
>Source: the fricking Ukrainian government
and?
I'd feel sorry for the separatists, but they've only got themselves to blame. They were always a pawn in Russia's imperialist game with Ukraine.
cannon fodder.
This is why you don't surrender to Russian occupation. Better to die as a free man fighting against the invader than as a slave herded before him to soak up bullets.
Is this like that one where the yukies told the riskiest to go "frick themselves" then anti ruskie needs got the weirdest boner then it didn't really happen at all?
What the frick are you even saying?
Let me guess you're from Ohio-oblast right? Wanna try typing that again ESL?
Learn English before posting.
Fricking hell, they're either too moronic to tell their allies apart from the enemy, or they're using fricking barrier troops. Some 'liberation' this is.
bump
if those dudes want to join russia so much, they shouldn't need pay
Yeah, accident.
>friendly fire
They're not allowing the penal battalion to retreat. Classic Russian tactical. You can have 1 "enforcer" battalion behind 2 penal ones, thereby.
Who cares as long as they were snow apes and no good brothers died its of 0 consequence
>Source: Call “intercepted” by Ukraine
/k/ope
Which have earned some level of trust in their reports. The Russians have earned the complete opposite, to the point where it's safe to dismiss any claims from Russian channels.
>source is "intercepted phonecall"
I hope none of you is dumb enough to fall for something like this. Its such an easy thing to forge.
Poor fricking donbabweans. The Donbabwean fauna will soon be extinct.
>ywn be a soviet commisar executing hohol piggies that refuse to clear the minefield for you
The reward for treachery is retribution.
I've been hearing this whole
>DNR AND LPR CONSCRIPTS ARE GONNA REVOLT
For like 3 months
Its the same cringe as cumchuggers going
>OMG WHOLE UKRAINIAN ARMY WILL SURRENDER ONCE WE CAPTURE NAMELESS VILLAGE #495
show where anyone said they would revolt en masse. your brainworms are not a viable citation. what is happening is the donbabwe slave soldiers are giving up and striking in peacemeal fashion due to suicidal orders and no provisions, which is being reported on.
If the source is the datacenter that stored the call i'll believe it. Trusting info from governments in war is the dumbest thing ever since it will always be propaganda whether be facts grossly exaggerated or outright lies
>SBU says
How did A10s shoot so many British troops? By being generally shitty pieces of equipment.