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Realistically how would Kazakhstan defend itself against Russia with the weapons it has access to? Should it consider NATO membership?

This might sound like a slam-dunk but I'm wondering if the Kazaks need to get their shit together quickly. Russia has a significant minority in the country and the fragmented and tribal politics would put a lot of emphasis on Kazakhstan winning battles to ensure cohesion. To make matter worse Kazakhstan's military is still largely reliant on Russian supply chains and old Soviet equipment and has recently hosted Russian peacekeepers to prop up the current regime the last time tribal bullshit got in the way.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    depends on whether russians will invade
    does taking kazakhstan bring them anything other than a tiny population boost?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Does taking Ukraine? There are actually a few similarities in the situation such as the strategic importance of Baikonur and how exposed Russia would be. But it seems in a much worse position when you consider it's largely sparse and flat territory.

      >NATO membership
      >North Atlantic Treato Organization
      >Landlocked Asian country
      No

      Kazakhstan has territory in Europe. Article 10 of the Washington Treaty opens it to any European state.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Does taking Ukraine?
        To be fair stopping Ukraine from becoming an energy export competitor and gaining their black sea ports access is a very important long-term strategic goal for Muscovites. There was also the cultural benefit of uniting their past (Kievan Rus) and present under a single shitty polity; if the Ukraine (note the IF) did significantly improve independently form Muscovy it undermined both Muscovy's claim to their ancient past, and their default dominance of the former Soviet Union. Vranyo and dedovschina cultures can't allow things like that, because improving themselves is a sign of weakness so you can only demean and lower your neighbors who dare to improve themselves.

        The funniest thing about it was that Ukraine wasn't even improving themselves despite the opportunities, until after Muscovy started to invade them (2014).

        >This might sound like a slam-dunk but I'm wondering if the Kazaks need to get their shit together quickly.
        They have been trying at pace since feb 2022. Currently the professionals™ consider kazakhstan invasion unlikely vs. others because of a range of factors like size, fricking around in china's sphere of influence, and also just the fact that all the hybrid war shit keeping the -stans divided is probably more effective than outright hostilities could hope to be.

        FSBBlack folk have the -stans at each other's throats using little more than trade scheming and inherited border gore. Water rights for instance are a flashpoint.

        >FSBBlack folk have the -stans at each other's throats using little more than trade scheming and inherited border gore. Water rights for instance are a flashpoint.
        Yeah that is sad the central asian bloc of countries have too many of their own beefs to unite into a federalised polity to shit on Chang and Vanya.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >The funniest thing about it was that Ukraine wasn't even improving themselves despite the opportunities, until after Muscovy started to invade them (2014).
          They're certainly moving in the right direction now! I feel like Ukraine has the potential to become a bit like a new Prussia, just a crazy hardcore hyper-militarized state that NATO actively has to prevent from fricking Russia up every chance it gets.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Ukraine wasn't even improving themselves despite the opportunities
          Wrong. You know very little.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            No, he's right. Until 2014 Ukraine was basically a Russian client state which is why the maidan started in the first place.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Anon, this is /k/, please don't post azn cuties, i'm trying to sober myself from yellow fever.
          That being said, archery is kino as hell.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You WILL return to the traditions of the Western Scythians and frick big booty steppe b***hes after marrying one of the east scythian girls

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Seriously. My QT celtic GF would probably rip my head off if she found out I got a semichub from watching steppe archer waifus

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Does taking Ukraine?
        From the "rebuilding the empire" standpoint? Absolutely.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      russian propaganda has been whining about kazakhstan for ages now, safe to say after 10 years of "KILL KHOKHOL" garbage on TV, it will happen

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >NATO membership
    >North Atlantic Treato Organization
    >Landlocked Asian country
    No

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    kazakh women will defend them. sexy, snu-snu big boned, matronly kazakh women....

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The kazakh goatfricker FEARS the Russian Babushka(larval form)

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Russian Babushka(larval form)
        >ball in Ukie colours
        wdhmbt?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        begone hohol trash.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Their army is pretty fricking bad but they most likely don't have to worry about Russia because China is heavily invested into Kazakhstan and Central Asia and are now basically de-facto under the protection of China. Russia knows if they invade they basically lose the only real ally they have left which is China.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The army is shit but it'd be enough to deal with hybrid threads.
    As for any direct military invasion, that's out of the table since any marines Russia had are smeared across Vuhledar's outskirts.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >This might sound like a slam-dunk but I'm wondering if the Kazaks need to get their shit together quickly.
    They have been trying at pace since feb 2022. Currently the professionals™ consider kazakhstan invasion unlikely vs. others because of a range of factors like size, fricking around in china's sphere of influence, and also just the fact that all the hybrid war shit keeping the -stans divided is probably more effective than outright hostilities could hope to be.

    FSBBlack folk have the -stans at each other's throats using little more than trade scheming and inherited border gore. Water rights for instance are a flashpoint.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Kinda chubby, bro. Not in a Goddess Body way, either.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Awful taste. You will never have strong sons for the steppe.

      Fortunately we have stringy cattle girls for you:

      No, he's right. Until 2014 Ukraine was basically a Russian client state which is why the maidan started in the first place.

      It's more complicated than that. Ukraine was already moving into the EU's orbit and had effectively blackmailed Russia on the Crimean lease along with stealing gas in transit.

      Here's a famous Russian spoof from New Year that has a line on it from 2010:

      And if that isn't enough cringe at babushka entertainment:

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If the people on average are tough like Golovkin and Shavkhat

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Realistically how would Kazakhstan defend itself against Russia
    Kazakh is r*ssian CIS vassal, so they wouldn't

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