>Iceland
Is Iceland good though? From what I've read it seems very crowded with lots of restrictions in the parks. Also I believe they have recently outlawed right-to-roam, anyone here can confirm? Would love to be wrong and plan a trip there for next summer.
iceland is good, tourists mostly crowds up the popular attractions accessible by bus.
you shouldnt directly compare parks, right to roam country with parks, elsewhere. when you have right to roam the purpose of national parks is not to provide hiking and outdoors area for the public, thats already there through right to roam. its rather to protect certain areas of nature meaning there might be limits on hiking and camping.
there is no reason to limit outings to parks only here, infact you might consider avoiding them since so many foreigners dont understand this and stick to the parks.
>tiny island >frickton of tourist >government moving to outlaw right-to-roam
I don’t see the error in my logic. Maybe you can explain it to me instead of spamming indoor memes.
They're the only reason your country isn't bankrupt and your neet bucks not tried up yet, Jonpapurburz. What else would fund your shitty rock? Elf porn?
The carpathians are underrated, lots of old growth forests remaining, remote, lush. Also the people that live in these mountain villages still live very traditional lives, I took a vacation to transylvania and it was like going back to medieval ages, really good place to get away from civilization for a bit and enjoy nature.
The're the smallest alpine range in europe; if you don't have much time you can see and do a lot there. Valley of the 5 lakes, 'morskie oko' and a great area all around if you like scrambling. Don't go on a weekend in the summer, it's packed with people.
Old English and other Germanish tongues used much different spelling than they do today. And when you study Germanish tongues you can see where the splits began to occur, such as in Deutsch -g (hard g) and Old English -g (y with diacritic and hard g without), waldweg/wood way. Old English used -c mostly for the k (cnawalaec = knowledge) and ch (with diacritic, circe = church, -lic = -lich now -like as in childlike) sounds. Most other Germanish tongues do not have unpronounced letters either, which came about in English because of moronic monks and the french.
Romania, Serbia, Bulgaria are absolutely stunning in nature and there are practically no laws for camping, and bare minimum licenses for fishing and hunting. But sure, go to fricking England and Scotland you twats.
I was shocked when i learned that camping innawoods, even as a single traveler just stopping for one night is strictly illegal across Europe besides Norway, Sweden, Finland, Iceland and Scotland. As a Nordic i always took the rights to go into the wilderness for granted.
Though now that I've walked across a few euro countries I can see why. What they call forests and nature reserves is so tiny it could fit my urban backyard. Can't imagine how quickly they get destroyed if every teen partygay and boomer camper convoy started to camp in them.
Not that laws stopped me from tenting in some German and Danish forests though.
It's legal in Latvia. In practice it's legal pretty much everywhere as no one knows you're sleeping in a tent in middle of a forest unless you light fires, which itself can be illegal in parts of USA too, depending on what laws national parks have, etc.
it's more like 'technically illegal' across the rest of the UK rather than 'strictly illegal'
It's 'illegal' in UK, but it is considered misdemeanor IIRC, the same as if you were walking around drunk, i.e. non crime.
Sure, it didn't stop me from wild camping in Germany and Denmark as said. And a cool older German i chatted with told me Germans generally don't give a shit if it's a solo camper hidden away for one night and not taking a shit right on the trails. The laws are there to stop larger groups from destroying the woods, and I'm sure thats how most people on continental Europe feel. He also said that even if people think it's fine, they won't tell you to do it unlike him, because they don't want to encourage someone to risk breaking laws and potentially get fined in a worst case scenario.
>most montanious country in Europe after Switzerland >kino Pyrenees >kino Picos de Europa >kino Canarias (you can literally climb a volcano) >kino unhabited land for kilometers as it is one of the most empty countries in Europe >kino Guardia Civil
The only bad thing is the amount of stupid laws that regulate innawoods activity, but no one will be there to punish you anyways.
Russia's pretty good, especially Karelia. If you like mountains you can go to the Urals or the Caucasus.
You can also walk for a long time in the plains and not meet anyone, but I prefer mountains.
Good luck even getting that remote without having to grease up some corrupt cops making up bullshit to fine you (into their own pockets).
Drove through half of Russia on a trip to the 'stans and got stopped like 5 times a day by cops saying I had to pay them.
The trick was simply to say you'll go with them to the station and pay and they lose interest.
I've never been stopped outside of cities and when they stop me it's just a quick document check and nothing else.
Which route did you take/cities pass through? Was it recent?
Also, going PrepHole in the stans? lmao are you a churka?
From the law in the books, it's illegal. The same is said for literally almost all of Europe. People are mostly just doing it in places where people don't care or the few places where it's allowed, which works but still kind of sucks. Very few places in Europe allow dispersed camping like the US does in almost all national forests, the average max stay before moving at least 1-5 miles from your old spot in is about 2 weeks (national forests and BLM are not the same as national parks and Europe doesn't have a proper analog to it). No permits or hiding or technicalities or BS.
I'm working at a remote Irish campsite. From what I've seen drunk driving is extemely common here because police don't check remote roads. You think theyll check a field at 2am? Your worry is getting soaked in rain and shit weather.
russia sure isnt good with a bilion square miles
Counts as Asia more no? How are roaming laws there?
>How are roaming laws there?
Law that can't be enforced isn't a law.
It only has the surface area of Pluto.
Pyrenees look lush.
>Iceland
Is Iceland good though? From what I've read it seems very crowded with lots of restrictions in the parks. Also I believe they have recently outlawed right-to-roam, anyone here can confirm? Would love to be wrong and plan a trip there for next summer.
iceland is good, tourists mostly crowds up the popular attractions accessible by bus.
you shouldnt directly compare parks, right to roam country with parks, elsewhere. when you have right to roam the purpose of national parks is not to provide hiking and outdoors area for the public, thats already there through right to roam. its rather to protect certain areas of nature meaning there might be limits on hiking and camping.
there is no reason to limit outings to parks only here, infact you might consider avoiding them since so many foreigners dont understand this and stick to the parks.
>it seems very crowded
>tiny island
>frickton of tourist
>government moving to outlaw right-to-roam
I don’t see the error in my logic. Maybe you can explain it to me instead of spamming indoor memes.
9 people/sq mi, all of them concentrated on the coasts. It's not hard to look at maps for once. Britain is an utter nightmare shithole by comparison.
>>tiny island
it's as big as Pennsylvania and sparsely populated, the interior is completely uninhabited
of tourist
99% of them go only to the same places on the ring road, and only in august.
>>laws
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>I don’t see the error in my logic
your "logic" is brainlet-tier
Anons I was wrong I’m sorry
>tiny island
yea its size of Maine but their population is below 400k and almost everyone lives in reykjavik.
>From what I've read it seems very crowded
Iceland is literally totally empty outside of reykjavik.
Frick off, were full. I hate tourists so much it's unreal.
They're the only reason your country isn't bankrupt and your neet bucks not tried up yet, Jonpapurburz. What else would fund your shitty rock? Elf porn?
>Britain
>Iceland
Hell no
Iceland is, britain isn't and is a bad joke.
England no, Britain yes
The carpathians are underrated, lots of old growth forests remaining, remote, lush. Also the people that live in these mountain villages still live very traditional lives, I took a vacation to transylvania and it was like going back to medieval ages, really good place to get away from civilization for a bit and enjoy nature.
Doesn’t Switzerland have god tier nature?
Very pretty but there's nowhere really remote. The valleys are all populated
>nature isn’t enough, there has to be no one around
city homosexual detected. you have to go back.
Yeah, but it's all overdeveloped with €100/night mountain huts, lattés and russian prostitutes
>it's all overdeveloped
no
yeah, what's the criteria. There's scenery, wildlife, camping possibilities, variety, access to nature, etc.
>Doesn't know about the tatra mountains
>Doesn't know about the bigass wildest mountains of europe in romaina
Truly an amerimutt
M8, what's so special about the Tatra Mountains? They looks wild though they are tiny.
As you've said Romania has a lot more wilderness and camping / fire laws aren't really enforced so you're good on the legal front.
The're the smallest alpine range in europe; if you don't have much time you can see and do a lot there. Valley of the 5 lakes, 'morskie oko' and a great area all around if you like scrambling. Don't go on a weekend in the summer, it's packed with people.
This post was made by King Cnut of the North Sea Empire
>Cnut
>not Knut
now try to pronounce it on vocaroo so i get something to laugh at
my guess is
>kah-nøtt
Yeah, Cnut, the real germanic way of writing it
The Germanic way to spell it would have been runes, brainlet.
C as a letter doesnt even have a meaning in my germanic language.
is it a K?
is it an S?
inconsistent letters should be CanCelled.
Old English and other Germanish tongues used much different spelling than they do today. And when you study Germanish tongues you can see where the splits began to occur, such as in Deutsch -g (hard g) and Old English -g (y with diacritic and hard g without), waldweg/wood way. Old English used -c mostly for the k (cnawalaec = knowledge) and ch (with diacritic, circe = church, -lic = -lich now -like as in childlike) sounds. Most other Germanish tongues do not have unpronounced letters either, which came about in English because of moronic monks and the french.
(andweard sinn)
Ic gewealcan in se wudu.
Knut or Knud. Stop making Fools of yourselves
i live in sweden and id love to PrepHole but honestly i dont know where to
Romania, Serbia, Bulgaria are absolutely stunning in nature and there are practically no laws for camping, and bare minimum licenses for fishing and hunting. But sure, go to fricking England and Scotland you twats.
Don't tell them
>t.native of one of those countries
Georgia
https://www.goingthewholehogg.com/destinations/caucasus/georgia/hiking-guides/
The Baltics has got some cozy nature too
I was shocked when i learned that camping innawoods, even as a single traveler just stopping for one night is strictly illegal across Europe besides Norway, Sweden, Finland, Iceland and Scotland. As a Nordic i always took the rights to go into the wilderness for granted.
Though now that I've walked across a few euro countries I can see why. What they call forests and nature reserves is so tiny it could fit my urban backyard. Can't imagine how quickly they get destroyed if every teen partygay and boomer camper convoy started to camp in them.
Not that laws stopped me from tenting in some German and Danish forests though.
it's more like 'technically illegal' across the rest of the UK rather than 'strictly illegal'
It's legal in Latvia. In practice it's legal pretty much everywhere as no one knows you're sleeping in a tent in middle of a forest unless you light fires, which itself can be illegal in parts of USA too, depending on what laws national parks have, etc.
It's 'illegal' in UK, but it is considered misdemeanor IIRC, the same as if you were walking around drunk, i.e. non crime.
Sure, it didn't stop me from wild camping in Germany and Denmark as said. And a cool older German i chatted with told me Germans generally don't give a shit if it's a solo camper hidden away for one night and not taking a shit right on the trails. The laws are there to stop larger groups from destroying the woods, and I'm sure thats how most people on continental Europe feel. He also said that even if people think it's fine, they won't tell you to do it unlike him, because they don't want to encourage someone to risk breaking laws and potentially get fined in a worst case scenario.
the legality in the UK is literally to keep the normies away, most serious cumpers want to keep it that way.
Everything is illegal for bongs, they need permission to do the most basic things
>doesn't list Bulgaria
???
How the frick did no one mention Spain?
>most montanious country in Europe after Switzerland
>kino Pyrenees
>kino Picos de Europa
>kino Canarias (you can literally climb a volcano)
>kino unhabited land for kilometers as it is one of the most empty countries in Europe
>kino Guardia Civil
The only bad thing is the amount of stupid laws that regulate innawoods activity, but no one will be there to punish you anyways.
Russia's pretty good, especially Karelia. If you like mountains you can go to the Urals or the Caucasus.
You can also walk for a long time in the plains and not meet anyone, but I prefer mountains.
Good luck even getting that remote without having to grease up some corrupt cops making up bullshit to fine you (into their own pockets).
Drove through half of Russia on a trip to the 'stans and got stopped like 5 times a day by cops saying I had to pay them.
The trick was simply to say you'll go with them to the station and pay and they lose interest.
I've never been stopped outside of cities and when they stop me it's just a quick document check and nothing else.
Which route did you take/cities pass through? Was it recent?
Also, going PrepHole in the stans? lmao are you a churka?
>not including the alps
alpinism is inherently PrepHole.
>nooooooo it's not remote
yeah it's amazing i can do the most insane tours on a weekend
Which one is true??
From the law in the books, it's illegal. The same is said for literally almost all of Europe. People are mostly just doing it in places where people don't care or the few places where it's allowed, which works but still kind of sucks. Very few places in Europe allow dispersed camping like the US does in almost all national forests, the average max stay before moving at least 1-5 miles from your old spot in is about 2 weeks (national forests and BLM are not the same as national parks and Europe doesn't have a proper analog to it). No permits or hiding or technicalities or BS.
I'm working at a remote Irish campsite. From what I've seen drunk driving is extemely common here because police don't check remote roads. You think theyll check a field at 2am? Your worry is getting soaked in rain and shit weather.