Looks like its a guy from one of the ethnic militias currently pushing in the govts shit. The govt resorted to helicopter attacks on villages to try and stop them and then ended up just ceding whole regions to try and defend larger cities.
the military junta of which the pictured is a foot soldier of, seized power in a coup, so they are the baddies, and they have been repressive and anti-freedom, even more baddies, and they are profiting off slavery and scamming, triple baddies, however, they are fighting against globohomosexual of Aung Saan, which makes them based, they made slaves of chink bugs who themselves are slavers of their ethnic peoples, which makes them double based, and they are fighting as a free nation against the rebels funded, supplied and led by c**ts from Communist China, which makes them triple based as they may kill bugs, hence on the scope of things, they sound exactly the kind of people CIA will have a drink with.
You know that globohomosexual does not mean "homo" as in what you do with your friends but homogenization of cultures towards a melting pot of whatever each has put in, right?
no this is a cope to not look homophobic, the term was originally refering to homosexuality.
4 months ago
Anonymous
really this is a classic example of left wing subversion, some right wing idea or meme gets popularized and then the left comes up with all these copes about how it's really supporting one of their ideas or some kind of moderate stance that doesn't conflict with the left.
4 months ago
Anonymous
it seems too convenient that people are using multiple gay terms to describe it though. globohomo, GAE, there are probaby even more than that idk
no this is a cope to not look homophobic, the term was originally refering to homosexuality.
It's both, it's about turning everything into a soup of common denominator homosexualry. They just drip cum into the melting pot and eventually the whole stew is jizz.
The military junta has successfully annoyed everyone on Earth and repeatedly slaughtered its own population and don't really have an argument for why they should run the country beyond 'we will shoot you if you disagree'. Until one of the rebel factions goes full Khmer Rouge, they are by default 'the bad guys'. There is very little moral grayness to this one.
No, the Alliance, one of like thirty factions, is equipped by China. Everyone else is down to just mog the Junta.
The Junta are not 'our guys', they're complete tools who also suck China's dick relentlessly. They have zero redeeming qualities as leaders of their nation, as their incompetence in defeating the rebels over the last twenty years has demonstrated.
>ISIS is backed by the US >the Iraqi government is also backed by the US
4 months ago
Anonymous
>>ISIS is backed by the US
We're still doing this?
4 months ago
Anonymous
Russians never stop repeating moronic propaganda because there's a never ending supply of morons who will buy it.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>boogeyman
Look I know, shiting on Russia has been the new trend after Ukraine.
But more or less it's a fact that USA loves to play double games.
See exhibit >Iran vs Iraq war
4 months ago
Anonymous
> there's a never ending supply of morons who will buy it.
See exhibit :
4 months ago
Anonymous
ISIS aligned rebel groups in Syria received US aid.
4 months ago
Anonymous
frick you, Russia is based.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Russia is based.
Now lets take a gander at Russian gun laws
sit down young one, and listen to this harrowing tale
after China funded the coup, they thought they had a puppet. however the puppet Burmese, on declining fortunes, decided to host a great number of chinese mafia who wanted to set up scam centres in the north targeting their fellow kin back in China (bugmen, typical behavior). not satisfied with recruiting and to keep costs low, these chinese mafia, arranged around 5 great families, started to abduct chinese nationals in Indochina and thailand, and lure more from china and overseas chinese by promising high pay, but the applicants ended up in slave camps chained to their tables making scam calls every day and beaten when they have poor results. if you don't get bailed by your family eventually you are also organ harvested. the number of chinese slaves was estimated to be around 100,000 at end 2021. you could be a taxi driver in burma and drive a chink to the slave camp and be paid US$20,000 on the spot.
Now these families were paying off the local miltiant forces and the Burmese military, in the amount of $5 billion to the miltiary alone a year, based off the scam profits, human trafficking, ransoms, prostiution, casino etc. despite frequent chinese protests the generals need this money to pay their large and unwieldy army and maintain order.
after a lot of hoo ha on social media in china, the chinese started sending their armed police into the camps as spies. last year about 20 were found in one camp alone, and after proudly flashing their CCP credentials, these chinese were promptly put to death and some say beheaded.
The Chinks were furious and started to heavily arm the Wa State and encourage them to work with the other armed groups to take over the north of Burma where these 5 families are. Seemed to be going well, with 3 of them pulled up, but not much news now. I guess stalemate because the Northern Command is heavily policed by 40 Tatmadaw (Burmese military) battalions.
Simple. You just keep fighting to survive and improve the power and size of your faction until everyone else is either dead or you've broken their will to fight you.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Doesn't seem so simple, given that the situation in Burma hasn't really improved for decades.
4 months ago
Anonymous
As a gay white man who voted for biden, its simply not my problem.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Violence of course, my young fren, a slow flowing, deep running river of violence and atrocities for our amusement.
third worlders are the most tribal in the world
4 months ago
Anonymous
botpost
4 months ago
Anonymous
I have a solution for you, it involves sending chinese airplanes to support the militias.
4 months ago
Anonymous
A stalemate where neither side can fully control the whole country, thus if anyone tries to do anything that the Chinese deem to be not beneficial to their interest, they'll start backing the other side.
>, but the applicants ended up in slave camps chained to their tables making scam calls every day and beaten when they have poor results.
Westie fantasies about evil China are unreal
4 months ago
Anonymous
homie that's the Burmese mafia chaining up kidnapped Chinese citizens.
And when CCP secret police went to investigate, they were all killed by the mafia, causing the Politburo to lose their shit.
This is one instance where the CCP are legitimate in their anger, their citizens got enslaved and killed by some scamsters with delusions of grandeur.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I'm not sure it's delusions if they're currently succeeding.
4 months ago
Anonymous
but did that actually happened though
4 months ago
Anonymous
It was real in the boomer mind
4 months ago
Anonymous
>but did that actually happened though
Yeah it did. It was a big drama. Also speaking of drama... the CCP approved this movie loosely based on the evil mafias kidnapping Chinese citizens and enslaving them in internet scam workshops:
4 months ago
Anonymous
whats next. Let me guess. Tofu ghost cities are a myth?
4 months ago
Anonymous
[...]
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[Citation Needed]
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-67471138
4 months ago
Anonymous
>ESL can't read and lashes out impotently
typical
It was real in the boomer mind
your head is full of rocks
4 months ago
Anonymous
homie that's the Burmese mafia chaining up kidnapped Chinese citizens.
And when CCP secret police went to investigate, they were all killed by the mafia, causing the Politburo to lose their shit.
This is one instance where the CCP are legitimate in their anger, their citizens got enslaved and killed by some scamsters with delusions of grandeur.
I'm not sure it's delusions if they're currently succeeding.
[Citation Needed]
4 months ago
Anonymous
Nta but this isn't a fantasy. It's very real. The scam prisons became such a hot topic in China that the CCP didn't even bother trying to censor news about it. The CCP is clearly pissed at the junta. Here's two article from Chinese state media that gives a good overview:
https://www.sixthtone.com/news/1013619
https://www.sixthtone.com/news/1013738
The chinks even made a movie set in a scam prison that became a box office hit. It pissed off the junta enough that the Myanmar consulate general in Nanning met with Chinese officials to complain about it.
https://www.sixthtone.com/news/1013515
https://www.bangkokpost.com/world/2655306
Here's one article from Chinese state media on how the Chinese ambassador to Myanmar pressed the junta to do more to shut down telecom fraud, and another article on how Chinese tourists started staying away from Myanmar as a result:
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202310/1300551.shtml
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202308/1296501.shtml
Best read this year. Where may I find more?
See the articles above. Hell just google "scams Myanmar". There's a shitload of articles about the scam centers and the warlords who run them. It's absolutely insane
4 months ago
Anonymous
>https://www.sixthtone.com/news/1013619 >Predominantly, the masterminds behind these telecom fraud schemes are Chinese nationals from southeastern China who arrive with a lot of cash. To set up their operations, they acquire land and build facilities, or lease preexisting buildings and invest in equipment and labor. Local armed insurgent groups extend protection in exchange for a share of the profits, often in non-monetary forms. >Currently, faced with escalating enforcement endeavors from Chinese regulators, telecom fraud rings in northern Myanmar are moving their base to places like Cambodia, while some are diverting their fraud activities to find victims in Japan, South Korea, the U.S., and Europe.
Oh holy shit, this is fascinating because my fiancee, who is Taiwanese, had been telling me of the news in Taiwan of young people getting lured to Cambodia for "work", only to be kidnapped and forced into scams, prostitution, or just straight up organ harvesting schemes. It seems they're likely joined at the hip with this Burma business.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Oh holy shit, this is fascinating because my fiancee, who is Taiwanese, had been telling me of the news in Taiwan of young people getting lured to Cambodia for "work", only to be kidnapped and forced into scams, prostitution, or just straight up organ harvesting schemes.
Why in Gods name do East Asians keep on going into the south? It always end in either >surprise, you will spend the rest of your days chained in the hull of a fishing ship processing fish until it inevitably sinks from shit maintenance
Or >surprise, I hope you like wiener and heroin because that’s all you’ll be getting for the rest of your life (estimated four months)
I understand that the lure of big bucks is quite attractive but why? Why do they keep doing it?
I'm not sure if the Chinese actually fund the rebels now, however the rest mostly checks out.
At the very least China is no longer supporting the junta and has started talks with the Rebels. After all the Rebels are not very happy with China for supporting the coup to begin with so they will likely demand some sort of deal (i.e. China heavily bankrolling the recovery of the country with no strings attached) if China wants to recover political and economic interests. After all the West supported the Rebels since the day of the coup.
sit down young one, and listen to this harrowing tale
after China funded the coup, they thought they had a puppet. however the puppet Burmese, on declining fortunes, decided to host a great number of chinese mafia who wanted to set up scam centres in the north targeting their fellow kin back in China (bugmen, typical behavior). not satisfied with recruiting and to keep costs low, these chinese mafia, arranged around 5 great families, started to abduct chinese nationals in Indochina and thailand, and lure more from china and overseas chinese by promising high pay, but the applicants ended up in slave camps chained to their tables making scam calls every day and beaten when they have poor results. if you don't get bailed by your family eventually you are also organ harvested. the number of chinese slaves was estimated to be around 100,000 at end 2021. you could be a taxi driver in burma and drive a chink to the slave camp and be paid US$20,000 on the spot.
Now these families were paying off the local miltiant forces and the Burmese military, in the amount of $5 billion to the miltiary alone a year, based off the scam profits, human trafficking, ransoms, prostiution, casino etc. despite frequent chinese protests the generals need this money to pay their large and unwieldy army and maintain order.
after a lot of hoo ha on social media in china, the chinese started sending their armed police into the camps as spies. last year about 20 were found in one camp alone, and after proudly flashing their CCP credentials, these chinese were promptly put to death and some say beheaded.
The Chinks were furious and started to heavily arm the Wa State and encourage them to work with the other armed groups to take over the north of Burma where these 5 families are. Seemed to be going well, with 3 of them pulled up, but not much news now. I guess stalemate because the Northern Command is heavily policed by 40 Tatmadaw (Burmese military) battalions.
do you believe that western democracy is true, real and bears freedom or do you think western influence leads to corruption and a degredation of society, that these democratic actions are in fact shams
if you think he first is true, you probably would support the rebel groups who if successful will have UN and CIA types flood the country after the fact
if you think the latter is true and support the junta, then if successful they will continue to suppress opposition of all kinds to keep the status quo
but i ask, why does there have to be a good or a bad side? as an american i have no real working knowledge of their day tp day life and gripes; and any macro argument i can guild is only gauged upon what the media has been feeding us. so, better to stay neutral in foriegn affairs yes?
>why does there have to be a good or a bad side?
We have agreed not to interfere in other countries' internal affairs. That is, unless they're not upholding universal human rights. Which is why we should rightfully overthrow not only the Burmese junta but the CCP and Russia too. You should care about destroying evil in this world for many reasons, not just because they openly vilify you and actively try to undermine our society, politics and elections. Not just because they will never respond to anything but violence. Not just because they make global trade difficult or impossible, directly making you poorer. Not just because they directly destroy valuable trading partners like Ukraine or Hong Kong. Anyone who's anti-west should rightfully be glassed.
We made super successful countries from the ruins of Germany and Japan, hell even Italy and Korea. Those alphabet boys you seem so scared of do these places good. We will repeat our success in Russia, China, and yes, Myanmar if we have to. Feel free to cope about it
>We have agreed not to interfere in other countries' internal affairs. That is, unless they're not upholding universal human rights.
So, when will America overthrow the archipelago of US-friendly, repressive petrostates in the Middle East for regularly violating universal human rights?
Or do these fellows have the a-okay for being evil as long as they're 'valuable trading partners' of the West? >We made super successful countries from the ruins of Germany and Japan, hell even Italy and Korea.
And geopolitical car crashes of Iraq and Afghanistan, the two most recent nation-building programmes of the United States.
In terms of a proud western export and domestic consumptive, Feminism negatively outweighs all other objective positives combined infinitely. You gotta get rid of that before there can be an honest case made for extolling westernization instead of just romantic cope about the gilded history of a dying culture
>We made super successful countries from the ruins of Germany and Japan, hell even Italy and Korea
All these countries are in suicide mode, especially South Korea
Looks like its a guy from one of the ethnic militias currently pushing in the govts shit. The govt resorted to helicopter attacks on villages to try and stop them and then ended up just ceding whole regions to try and defend larger cities.
said they're an ethnic militia that has fought against the army before but respect democracy so were chill with the elected government. When the Junta did their coup a bunch of militias started getting active again. Unlike groups like the PDF (people's defense force) some of these militias are even more organized and standardized than parts of the Junta (Like the KNLA and KIA).
https://i.imgur.com/LhrLbdt.jpg
The Myanmar Civil war is literally Far Cry 4 IRL
Yeah the Myanmar civil war(s) have been pretty fricking insane. >12 year old schizos leading rebel groups, random ass ethnicities having their own entire de facto nations with armies isolated almost completely out in the jungle. (Wa state, Shan state, Kareni region, e.t.c.) >Almost all university students converting their faculties into rebel groups overnight. ("Vigorous Burmese Student Warriors", "All Burma Students' Democratic Front", e.t.c.). >Enough heroin to kill the entire population multiple times over. >Multiple strange religious (and heavily armed) cults.
And now with the latest war >Muskets being actively used in combat
>good side
There is no good side. It's thirdies being thirdies. The regime massacres villages that they accuse of supporting the rebels. The rebels massacre villages they accuse of supporting the regime.
>Is this guy on the goodie side or the baddies side?
Judging from the non-standard gear, he's a member of one of the anti-government factions and like
The military junta has successfully annoyed everyone on Earth and repeatedly slaughtered its own population and don't really have an argument for why they should run the country beyond 'we will shoot you if you disagree'. Until one of the rebel factions goes full Khmer Rouge, they are by default 'the bad guys'. There is very little moral grayness to this one.
said, OPFOR is the government, BLUFOR is literally everyone else. Maybe the Chinese get to be INFOR.
All I want to know is whose side are the Rohingya on so I can send them money for drones to kill juntaBlack folk with.
>7 replies >no answer >faction is one reverse search away
this guy is a member of the MNDAA. they are likely to be the heavyweight militia of any future government that arises from the junta's demise. they have a long, checkered history compared to the other EAOs.
see https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/60177873/#q60179190
>good side
There is no good side. It's thirdies being thirdies. The regime massacres villages that they accuse of supporting the rebels. The rebels massacre villages they accuse of supporting the regime.
Mostly tobacco, I've seen it in Southern China and Vietnam as well, it delivers a pretty heavy hit of smoke, takes outsiders by surprise, and sometimes floors them.
No, the Alliance, one of like thirty factions, is equipped by China. Everyone else is down to just mog the Junta.
The Junta are not 'our guys', they're complete tools who also suck China's dick relentlessly. They have zero redeeming qualities as leaders of their nation, as their incompetence in defeating the rebels over the last twenty years has demonstrated.
myanmar has limited strategic value in current day geopolitics so nobody really has a reason to get substantially involved beyond token measures of support. neither china nor the us wants to get into a slap fight over a peripheral conflict in a country that frankly doesn't matter to either of them.
I was thinking about setting up an AR kinda like that for a joke, but it's surprisingly kino. My thought was to put a 5.5" flash hider on a 20-24" carry handle upper. Then mount a scope for a quasi unreal tournament (99) sniper rifle
Indeed. They use tactical war pandas during ambushes
Jokes aside, the guy probably worked for the WWF before enlisting in an armed group. Proof you can be an environmentalist and kill people for a living
I've always respected the hardcore Sea Shepherd types, personally. The world would be a better place if maritime law let you gun down illegal fishing operations on site.
If you ask me being an environmentalist necessitates being at least a little violent. Pacifism doesn't ward off poachers and singing kum by ya won't stop people dumping trash in the sea
Fly tipping is a big problem in the UK, usually building contractors will dump their waste on farmland because getting rid of it properly is expensive.
I know of one case where a farmer out badgering saw someone fly tipping so he blocked them in with his landrover and hold them at shotgun point while his son phoned the pub where his rugby mates were drinking.
Long story short those contractors found out what it's like to be run over by a full rugby team.
Vigilante justice is best justice, it's the basic ur-democracy. One man, one rock.
He's unironically right the salute originates from the Hunger Games movie
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/myanmar-coup-doctors-hunger-games-salute-b1797548.html
>Camo >Plate carriers >.50 sniper rifle
But their rations are still rice carried in those hollowed out bamboo tubes, just like the past 1000 years. Wild.
What the frick is the weapon in the hard case on the right? The muzzle looks way too large to be for a bullet, but the barrel is super short and it looks like it's feeding from straight mags. Is it some unholy semi auto shotgun or something?
Could be, but it makes no sense to me that something that worthless would be afforded a hard case with an optic intended to be mounted on it, so I assumed it's something actually useful.
What the frick is the weapon in the hard case on the right? The muzzle looks way too large to be for a bullet, but the barrel is super short and it looks like it's feeding from straight mags. Is it some unholy semi auto shotgun or something?
well the dudes milling around are TNLA I think so it must be something used by the Army?
In some 3rd world places, it's sort of like biblical wine, and the coca cola is more likely to be effectively filtered than any other drinking source. Plus energy.
Junta went full fricking moron, torching actual hundreds of villages all across the country. The have no actual governance other than "we'll shoot you so you have to listen to us". They offer nothing to anybody but people who are already in the military/family of military. They pissed otherwise neutral groups off to join against them because they just could not stop themselves from indiscriminately killing.
It's genuinely amazing how much the junta has fricked up since the coup >Try to violently suppress protests in 2021
Protests morph into pro-NLD militias >repeatedly try to prevent the pro-NLD militias from allying with ethnic militias
Most militias end up recognizing the government-in-exile and break their longstanding truces forcing them to fight accross multiple fronts >try to gather support from Russia and China
Russia becomes entangled in Ukraine and China becomes pissed off due to government officials straight up enslaving Chinese civilians to defraud Chinese seniors
It's legitimately astounding that they've managed to be shit enough that dozens of militias across the political, religious, and ethnic spectrums that all hate each others' guts are willing to put aside their differences.
This pretty much the heartland of Myanmar. This area also happens to be where the pro-government-in-exile militias (PDFs) are the strongest. It's mainly populated by ethnic Bamars (main ethnic group) so the junta doesn't have much experience fighting there. On the other hand PDFs found much support among the local population as the junta's decades of failed economic policies have left them destitute.
>I thought it was sweltering jungle?
A full third or so of the country is in the Himalayas and their highest point is almost 20,000'; depending on where you're fighting it's either Vietnam or Afghanistan.
I was in Chiang Mai this past March and met a guy from Burma that said he had to flee to Thailand because he had manufactured about a hundred homemade bombs but the police got tipped off about it.
Question for /k/, you get put in a Far Cry situation, trapped in some foreign land with little money, only a 1911 with a few mags, and no connects, you can choose from 1, 2, 3, and 4 as the place you're sent to. Realistically, what would you do and are you surviving?
wait so what are all the sides in this war? I know there's the central junta and some rebels, and I keep hearing about china funding one of the groups, but I don't know which.
The Chinese were funding the Junta, who were the original perpetrators of the coup that took out the government. Now the Junta is the government, and the rebels are fighting to remove them.
The important thing to remember is there were rebels before the coup, but now they're picking up steam because various freedom fighters, who were determined to stop the Junta, joined up with the various ethnic rebel groups (enemy of my enemy is my friend, and all that jazz).
The simple answer is that there are almost too many rebel groups to count. I think its almost fair to say that virtually everybody who is not allied with the Junta is against it, at this point, due to the Junta going full fricking moron and destroying dozens of villages just because they THOUGHT there were rebels there. This caused the number of rebels and militias to grow very quickly, seeing as even if you considered yourself neutral you could still have your village massacred because the Junta thought a few rebels lived there.
The Chinese quickly backed off of supporting the Junta after various officials started kidnapping Chinese people to use them for slave labor. Once again proving just how moronic the Junta is.
So right now, the militias and rebels are consolidating capabilities, trying to seize weapons from the military, and build their forces.
Just look at this belligerents list. The gist is that the Tatmadaw (the Junta military), with a few ethnic militias for support (who are butthurt about other ethnicities and past conflicts with them, so thus support the Junta), are fighting a dozen plus militias and rebel groups at once. The biggest group on the rebel side seems to be the Three Brotherhood Alliance, a combined force of several large ethnic/breakaway state militias.
They started arming the rebels in a very funny twist of fate.
sorry im moronic i can see the rebel groups are some sort of communist ideology so the best guess is that china is funding them now
As of fall 2023 China tried to get rebel forces and the Junta into peace talks, but apparently >The Brotherhood Alliance announced later on 13 December that these peace talks "lasted only 10 minutes" and vowed to continue fighting.
https://www.france24.com/en/asia-pacific/20231031-thousands-displaced-near-myanmar-china-border-after-attack-by-armed-groups
It appears that China is kind of playing both sides. Officially they talk to the Junta a lot, but they've also provided support to the various communist aligned rebel forces closer to the border.
I'd imagine their idea is its a win/win if the Junta stays in power or a major communist rebel group wins majority support and steers Burma toward China anyway.
Sorry by the way, I'm a moron with the formatting here. That quote is from wikipedia, but in no way did I intend to imply it came from that article. Please mentally insert a paragraph break between the quote and the link, as they're discussing two separate but related things.
Kind if middling. The sanctions don't reach terribly far, its mostly individuals associated with the Junta and some companies, but not the biggest companies that they're relying on for foreign currency (their oil and gas company MOGE). There's also been only marginal support for the rebel groups.
So far its been more intenational condemnation and fist shaking then it has been material support. I think this is probably out of concern for just how complex the situation is, with all the various rebel groups. If I was a State Department glowie trying to figure out who we would even give material support to, I'd have a mental breakdown. If you go with some of the biggest rebel groups, you may end up funding a future communist China aligned state. If you got with some of the smaller groups, your aid could be inconsequential, or on the flip side, those groups might seize an opportunity to do a small genocide while they have the material advantage over other ethnic groups (and nobody wants to see "State Department funded ethnic militia massacres other ones using M16s and M252 mortars" in the news).
If I were a glowie, I think spreading a bit of support throughout the groups could help keep the scales more even among them, and perhaps encourage them to work together. You'd be going for the idea that, since the others go aid too, that maybe it makes them think twice before they do a genocide.
If the rebels win and reinstall a government, they're going to have their work cut out for them to make it a multi-ethnic one so they don't keep having nasty civil wars. That's incredibly difficult to do.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I think the US is trying to avoid a situation where China becomes wary of US intervention in Myanmar and the junta becomes desperate for Chinese support. If the junta is seen as collapsing only due to US interference, China would be forced to intervene to protect their B&R initiatives. On the other hand if the NUG grows more or less organically, China would see the junta as incapable of maintaining stability while the NUG wouldn't end up as a US-proxy and would allow B&R initiatives out of sheer economic desperation. They have already sharply mellowed out in their tone against China, while the junta has accused China of being responsible for the chaos around them due to their alleged support for several EAOs.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Right, I agree that there's a real threat of it exploding into a proxy war between the US and China, and further inflaming those tensions. Letting it play out more naturally lets the various forces organically grow. That's better in the long run, and by all accounts the Junta is faltering anyway, with several experts describing them as being in a "death spiral" since fall of last year.
>whats america's stance on this whole thing
Nominally they support the NUG (government-in-exile) although there's a bit of bad blood between both as the US blamed the civilian government for the Rohingya genocide which irritates the NUG as it was entirely carried out by the military. Despite that they support them over the junta by a mile.
Same situation happened literally yesterday. A regional (Northern Shan) truce signed with the Three Brotherhood Alliance (TNLA, MNDAA, AA) on the 12th collapsed as junta forces began bombing TNLA positions. It seems like you can't put the genie back inside the bottle. Although I'm not sure if the MNDAA and AA care considering the MNDAA controls most of their homeland already and the AA is mainly focusing on Rakhine state.
thats because China secretly considers Burma part of its territory. They have a dubious map somewhere that shows at one point a chinese Junk planted a flag and nobody else lived there. If the security situation gets bad enough and both the Junta and the Rebels are worn down they can force a "democratic" unification with China.
>the Junta going full fricking moron and destroying dozens of villages just because they THOUGHT there were rebels there
The burnings are a deliberate strategy to pressure neutral villages into joining pro-government Pyusawhti militias. It's a "you're either with us or against us" situation. It's not necessarily as stupid as one might think considering the junta desperately requires manpower and local intelligence.
>wait so what are all the sides in this war >Tatmadaw
Regular military controlled by the SAC (State Administration Council) which came into power by couping the civilian government >PDF (People's Defence Force(s))
Militias in support of the civilian government that was couped after the 2020 election. >EAOs (Ethnic Armed Organizations)
Ethnic militias. Most are allied to the civilian government, some are neutral and a few are fighting with the junta. Overall most oppose the junta. Far too numerous to list all of them.
>keep hearing about china funding one of the groups, but I don't know which. >UWSA
One of the, if not the strongest EAO in Myanmar. They are numerous, well-armed and control a sizable region on the border with China. They maintain a policy of strict neutrality regarding the civil war . They are very pro-China and receive strong Chinese support. >MNDAA
Made up of ethnic Hans in the Kokang SAZ. Part of the Three Brotherhood Alliance (3BA). Their recent anti-junta offensive was possibly greenlit by China to pressure the SAC into cracking down against scam compunds tolerated by corrupt junta officials but now seems to have severely destabilized Myanmar to the point where 2 ceasefire attempts in the last two months between the 3BA and junta collapsed within a day.
https://www.irrawaddy.com/news/burma/myanmar-resistance-groups-get-creative-to-manufacture-weapons.html
The weapons the militias have been making a pretty cool. Mortars, bombs, IEDs, mines, guns from stamps and 3D printed stuff, and also drone dropped bombs.
Is this guy on the goodie side or the baddies side?
Looks like its a guy from one of the ethnic militias currently pushing in the govts shit. The govt resorted to helicopter attacks on villages to try and stop them and then ended up just ceding whole regions to try and defend larger cities.
ah,
the military junta of which the pictured is a foot soldier of, seized power in a coup, so they are the baddies, and they have been repressive and anti-freedom, even more baddies, and they are profiting off slavery and scamming, triple baddies, however, they are fighting against globohomosexual of Aung Saan, which makes them based, they made slaves of chink bugs who themselves are slavers of their ethnic peoples, which makes them double based, and they are fighting as a free nation against the rebels funded, supplied and led by c**ts from Communist China, which makes them triple based as they may kill bugs, hence on the scope of things, they sound exactly the kind of people CIA will have a drink with.
Does this answer your question gay
>globohomo
Opinion rejected for clear evidence of mental moronation.
???
You know that globohomosexual does not mean "homo" as in what you do with your friends but homogenization of cultures towards a melting pot of whatever each has put in, right?
no this is a cope to not look homophobic, the term was originally refering to homosexuality.
really this is a classic example of left wing subversion, some right wing idea or meme gets popularized and then the left comes up with all these copes about how it's really supporting one of their ideas or some kind of moderate stance that doesn't conflict with the left.
it seems too convenient that people are using multiple gay terms to describe it though. globohomo, GAE, there are probaby even more than that idk
It's both, it's about turning everything into a soup of common denominator homosexualry. They just drip cum into the melting pot and eventually the whole stew is jizz.
Post your gun
>they sound exactly the kind of people CIA will have a drink with
quadruple baddies
The military junta has successfully annoyed everyone on Earth and repeatedly slaughtered its own population and don't really have an argument for why they should run the country beyond 'we will shoot you if you disagree'. Until one of the rebel factions goes full Khmer Rouge, they are by default 'the bad guys'. There is very little moral grayness to this one.
the rebels are led, funded and equipped by China, that makes the junta our guys.
No, the Alliance, one of like thirty factions, is equipped by China. Everyone else is down to just mog the Junta.
The Junta are not 'our guys', they're complete tools who also suck China's dick relentlessly. They have zero redeeming qualities as leaders of their nation, as their incompetence in defeating the rebels over the last twenty years has demonstrated.
>The junta is backed by china
>one of the rebel groups is also backed by china
what a great friend the chinese people are
>ISIS is backed by the US
>the Iraqi government is also backed by the US
>>ISIS is backed by the US
We're still doing this?
Russians never stop repeating moronic propaganda because there's a never ending supply of morons who will buy it.
>boogeyman
Look I know, shiting on Russia has been the new trend after Ukraine.
But more or less it's a fact that USA loves to play double games.
See exhibit
>Iran vs Iraq war
> there's a never ending supply of morons who will buy it.
See exhibit :
ISIS aligned rebel groups in Syria received US aid.
frick you, Russia is based.
>Russia is based.
Now lets take a gander at Russian gun laws
>makes the junta our guys
you mean the junta who spent every second slurping russian wiener for military equipment
Irrelevant. When you are poor, you need to take the crap bargain bin stuff.
All hail Tatmadaw Kyi, based killers of communist chinks.
Oh you indolent child.
>the rebels are led, funded and equipped by China, that makes the junta our guys.
Not true lmao
New Chang cope just dropped.
China was behind the coup. Buyer's remorse?
sit down young one, and listen to this harrowing tale
after China funded the coup, they thought they had a puppet. however the puppet Burmese, on declining fortunes, decided to host a great number of chinese mafia who wanted to set up scam centres in the north targeting their fellow kin back in China (bugmen, typical behavior). not satisfied with recruiting and to keep costs low, these chinese mafia, arranged around 5 great families, started to abduct chinese nationals in Indochina and thailand, and lure more from china and overseas chinese by promising high pay, but the applicants ended up in slave camps chained to their tables making scam calls every day and beaten when they have poor results. if you don't get bailed by your family eventually you are also organ harvested. the number of chinese slaves was estimated to be around 100,000 at end 2021. you could be a taxi driver in burma and drive a chink to the slave camp and be paid US$20,000 on the spot.
Now these families were paying off the local miltiant forces and the Burmese military, in the amount of $5 billion to the miltiary alone a year, based off the scam profits, human trafficking, ransoms, prostiution, casino etc. despite frequent chinese protests the generals need this money to pay their large and unwieldy army and maintain order.
after a lot of hoo ha on social media in china, the chinese started sending their armed police into the camps as spies. last year about 20 were found in one camp alone, and after proudly flashing their CCP credentials, these chinese were promptly put to death and some say beheaded.
The Chinks were furious and started to heavily arm the Wa State and encourage them to work with the other armed groups to take over the north of Burma where these 5 families are. Seemed to be going well, with 3 of them pulled up, but not much news now. I guess stalemate because the Northern Command is heavily policed by 40 Tatmadaw (Burmese military) battalions.
Lol for all the shit America gets about "blowback" all the authoritarian shitholes get it so much worse.
Most interesting post I've read on PrepHole all year.
That almost made me feel pity for bugs. What a shitshow.
How do you possibly unfrick this situation?
Simple. You just keep fighting to survive and improve the power and size of your faction until everyone else is either dead or you've broken their will to fight you.
Doesn't seem so simple, given that the situation in Burma hasn't really improved for decades.
As a gay white man who voted for biden, its simply not my problem.
Violence of course, my young fren, a slow flowing, deep running river of violence and atrocities for our amusement.
third worlders are the most tribal in the world
botpost
I have a solution for you, it involves sending chinese airplanes to support the militias.
A stalemate where neither side can fully control the whole country, thus if anyone tries to do anything that the Chinese deem to be not beneficial to their interest, they'll start backing the other side.
>Shoot both of your feet
what a great idea anon
lmfao
Best read this year. Where may I find more?
>, but the applicants ended up in slave camps chained to their tables making scam calls every day and beaten when they have poor results.
Westie fantasies about evil China are unreal
homie that's the Burmese mafia chaining up kidnapped Chinese citizens.
And when CCP secret police went to investigate, they were all killed by the mafia, causing the Politburo to lose their shit.
This is one instance where the CCP are legitimate in their anger, their citizens got enslaved and killed by some scamsters with delusions of grandeur.
I'm not sure it's delusions if they're currently succeeding.
but did that actually happened though
It was real in the boomer mind
>but did that actually happened though
Yeah it did. It was a big drama. Also speaking of drama... the CCP approved this movie loosely based on the evil mafias kidnapping Chinese citizens and enslaving them in internet scam workshops:
whats next. Let me guess. Tofu ghost cities are a myth?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-67471138
>ESL can't read and lashes out impotently
typical
your head is full of rocks
[Citation Needed]
Nta but this isn't a fantasy. It's very real. The scam prisons became such a hot topic in China that the CCP didn't even bother trying to censor news about it. The CCP is clearly pissed at the junta. Here's two article from Chinese state media that gives a good overview:
https://www.sixthtone.com/news/1013619
https://www.sixthtone.com/news/1013738
The chinks even made a movie set in a scam prison that became a box office hit. It pissed off the junta enough that the Myanmar consulate general in Nanning met with Chinese officials to complain about it.
https://www.sixthtone.com/news/1013515
https://www.bangkokpost.com/world/2655306
Here's one article from Chinese state media on how the Chinese ambassador to Myanmar pressed the junta to do more to shut down telecom fraud, and another article on how Chinese tourists started staying away from Myanmar as a result:
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202310/1300551.shtml
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202308/1296501.shtml
See the articles above. Hell just google "scams Myanmar". There's a shitload of articles about the scam centers and the warlords who run them. It's absolutely insane
>https://www.sixthtone.com/news/1013619
>Predominantly, the masterminds behind these telecom fraud schemes are Chinese nationals from southeastern China who arrive with a lot of cash. To set up their operations, they acquire land and build facilities, or lease preexisting buildings and invest in equipment and labor. Local armed insurgent groups extend protection in exchange for a share of the profits, often in non-monetary forms.
>Currently, faced with escalating enforcement endeavors from Chinese regulators, telecom fraud rings in northern Myanmar are moving their base to places like Cambodia, while some are diverting their fraud activities to find victims in Japan, South Korea, the U.S., and Europe.
Oh holy shit, this is fascinating because my fiancee, who is Taiwanese, had been telling me of the news in Taiwan of young people getting lured to Cambodia for "work", only to be kidnapped and forced into scams, prostitution, or just straight up organ harvesting schemes. It seems they're likely joined at the hip with this Burma business.
>Oh holy shit, this is fascinating because my fiancee, who is Taiwanese, had been telling me of the news in Taiwan of young people getting lured to Cambodia for "work", only to be kidnapped and forced into scams, prostitution, or just straight up organ harvesting schemes.
Why in Gods name do East Asians keep on going into the south? It always end in either
>surprise, you will spend the rest of your days chained in the hull of a fishing ship processing fish until it inevitably sinks from shit maintenance
Or
>surprise, I hope you like wiener and heroin because that’s all you’ll be getting for the rest of your life (estimated four months)
I understand that the lure of big bucks is quite attractive but why? Why do they keep doing it?
I'm not sure if the Chinese actually fund the rebels now, however the rest mostly checks out.
At the very least China is no longer supporting the junta and has started talks with the Rebels. After all the Rebels are not very happy with China for supporting the coup to begin with so they will likely demand some sort of deal (i.e. China heavily bankrolling the recovery of the country with no strings attached) if China wants to recover political and economic interests. After all the West supported the Rebels since the day of the coup.
this never happened thoughever
Inability to think clearly.
>don't really have an argument for why they should run the country beyond 'we will shoot you if you disagree
So every government then?
Best post on PrepHole right now.
depends on who you believe
do you believe that western democracy is true, real and bears freedom or do you think western influence leads to corruption and a degredation of society, that these democratic actions are in fact shams
if you think he first is true, you probably would support the rebel groups who if successful will have UN and CIA types flood the country after the fact
if you think the latter is true and support the junta, then if successful they will continue to suppress opposition of all kinds to keep the status quo
but i ask, why does there have to be a good or a bad side? as an american i have no real working knowledge of their day tp day life and gripes; and any macro argument i can guild is only gauged upon what the media has been feeding us. so, better to stay neutral in foriegn affairs yes?
>why does there have to be a good or a bad side?
We have agreed not to interfere in other countries' internal affairs. That is, unless they're not upholding universal human rights. Which is why we should rightfully overthrow not only the Burmese junta but the CCP and Russia too. You should care about destroying evil in this world for many reasons, not just because they openly vilify you and actively try to undermine our society, politics and elections. Not just because they will never respond to anything but violence. Not just because they make global trade difficult or impossible, directly making you poorer. Not just because they directly destroy valuable trading partners like Ukraine or Hong Kong. Anyone who's anti-west should rightfully be glassed.
We made super successful countries from the ruins of Germany and Japan, hell even Italy and Korea. Those alphabet boys you seem so scared of do these places good. We will repeat our success in Russia, China, and yes, Myanmar if we have to. Feel free to cope about it
>Which is why we should rightfully overthrow not only the Burmese junta but the CCP and Russia too.
Will you overthrow Ukraine as well?
Yep, if they don't get a wriggle on.
We'll show Russia how it's really done.
>We have agreed not to interfere in other countries' internal affairs. That is, unless they're not upholding universal human rights.
So, when will America overthrow the archipelago of US-friendly, repressive petrostates in the Middle East for regularly violating universal human rights?
Or do these fellows have the a-okay for being evil as long as they're 'valuable trading partners' of the West?
>We made super successful countries from the ruins of Germany and Japan, hell even Italy and Korea.
And geopolitical car crashes of Iraq and Afghanistan, the two most recent nation-building programmes of the United States.
Friendly?
>Anyone who's anti-west should rightfully be glassed
Brap on me all you can, I'll never embrace trannies and the 19th amendment
In terms of a proud western export and domestic consumptive, Feminism negatively outweighs all other objective positives combined infinitely. You gotta get rid of that before there can be an honest case made for extolling westernization instead of just romantic cope about the gilded history of a dying culture
oh how foolish these dunces are honestly
>We made super successful countries from the ruins of Germany and Japan, hell even Italy and Korea
All these countries are in suicide mode, especially South Korea
Their upper neighbour are deprive of liberty and basic necessities.
russia will win
Nice neutrooling sir
Definitively good side.
Like
said they're an ethnic militia that has fought against the army before but respect democracy so were chill with the elected government. When the Junta did their coup a bunch of militias started getting active again. Unlike groups like the PDF (people's defense force) some of these militias are even more organized and standardized than parts of the Junta (Like the KNLA and KIA).
Yeah the Myanmar civil war(s) have been pretty fricking insane.
>12 year old schizos leading rebel groups, random ass ethnicities having their own entire de facto nations with armies isolated almost completely out in the jungle. (Wa state, Shan state, Kareni region, e.t.c.)
>Almost all university students converting their faculties into rebel groups overnight. ("Vigorous Burmese Student Warriors", "All Burma Students' Democratic Front", e.t.c.).
>Enough heroin to kill the entire population multiple times over.
>Multiple strange religious (and heavily armed) cults.
And now with the latest war
>Muskets being actively used in combat
>Muskets being actively used in combat
I don't know why, but I'd be EXCEPTIONALLY pissed off if I was wounded by a musket ball in 2024
>"Shit what was that."
>"The frick...a metal ball?"
>"Is that a fricking musket?"
>"Frick you it's 2024, why are you using a 16th century gun?"
>good side
There is no good side. It's thirdies being thirdies. The regime massacres villages that they accuse of supporting the rebels. The rebels massacre villages they accuse of supporting the regime.
Didn't Far Cry 4 takes place in not-Nepal though?
>Is this guy on the goodie side or the baddies side?
Judging from the non-standard gear, he's a member of one of the anti-government factions and like
said, OPFOR is the government, BLUFOR is literally everyone else. Maybe the Chinese get to be INFOR.
All I want to know is whose side are the Rohingya on so I can send them money for drones to kill juntaBlack folk with.
>7 replies
>no answer
>faction is one reverse search away
this guy is a member of the MNDAA. they are likely to be the heavyweight militia of any future government that arises from the junta's demise. they have a long, checkered history compared to the other EAOs.
see https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/60177873/#q60179190
He’s on the short side.
Gray?
Or.
Grey?
Just say that you are clueless mkay?
>hanging with the boys taking giant rips from your giant traditionally-made bamboo bong in the middle of a civil war
Kinda jelly
What do you think they're smoking? Opium or weed?
>Opium or weed?
Yes.
Mostly tobacco, I've seen it in Southern China and Vietnam as well, it delivers a pretty heavy hit of smoke, takes outsiders by surprise, and sometimes floors them.
Are PMC's operating there? One would think that this would be a great place to promote their services for the Junta
Burma is famously xenophobic. They also have almost 20m males they can conscript.
myanmar has limited strategic value in current day geopolitics so nobody really has a reason to get substantially involved beyond token measures of support. neither china nor the us wants to get into a slap fight over a peripheral conflict in a country that frankly doesn't matter to either of them.
Is the Golden Triangle meaningless nowadays?
Meth is old news . People use Fentanyl and tranq now grandpa .
>limited strategic value
lol, lmao. Gives China a port outside the malay chokepoint
PMCs need to get paid, what's the junta paying with?
Dirt
Don't they have oil and rare earth mineral's in Myanmar ? Executive outcomes and Wagner got paid through mining concessions.
It is
kek at the tactical crocs
Legitimately better than boots in the jungle for extended periods in all ways except maybe a snake bite
>no plates
lmao
>plastic aliexpress airsoft helmets
Helmets could be real but those shitty 200 buck ones
Nice trips
So what's the significance of the seven rings
If u collect them all the dragon gives u a wish
military special olympics
>Seven to the Dwarf-Lords, great miners and craftsmen of the mountain halls.
Based and dwarfpilled.
The like chinese Audi knock-offs
Waifu material.
What pattern are her pants?
Looks like a chink digital pattern, I would start looking at those
Chink Type 07 Woodland
Thanks bro
More importantly, what color are her panties?
I was thinking about setting up an AR kinda like that for a joke, but it's surprisingly kino. My thought was to put a 5.5" flash hider on a 20-24" carry handle upper. Then mount a scope for a quasi unreal tournament (99) sniper rifle
Is that the WWF military?
Indeed. They use tactical war pandas during ambushes
Jokes aside, the guy probably worked for the WWF before enlisting in an armed group. Proof you can be an environmentalist and kill people for a living
I've always respected the hardcore Sea Shepherd types, personally. The world would be a better place if maritime law let you gun down illegal fishing operations on site.
>Carbon compensation by killing dudes
Besed
If you ask me being an environmentalist necessitates being at least a little violent. Pacifism doesn't ward off poachers and singing kum by ya won't stop people dumping trash in the sea
Fly tipping is a big problem in the UK, usually building contractors will dump their waste on farmland because getting rid of it properly is expensive.
I know of one case where a farmer out badgering saw someone fly tipping so he blocked them in with his landrover and hold them at shotgun point while his son phoned the pub where his rugby mates were drinking.
Long story short those contractors found out what it's like to be run over by a full rugby team.
Vigilante justice is best justice, it's the basic ur-democracy. One man, one rock.
Communists are terrible for the environment but then again they aren’t people
Freemason rebels? Wtf
is the sign from the hunger games
pdf are a bunch of millenial urbanites
when bait use to be believable
He's unironically right the salute originates from the Hunger Games movie
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/myanmar-coup-doctors-hunger-games-salute-b1797548.html
>doubles down
lmfao its a scout salute
moron
>burmese boy/Girl Scouts circa 2020+
So fricking jealous bros.
That back piece isn't even half bad
>Camo
>Plate carriers
>.50 sniper rifle
But their rations are still rice carried in those hollowed out bamboo tubes, just like the past 1000 years. Wild.
Orlan 10 shot down by rebel
Doesn't look very damaged.
Rebel drone
Rawket lawnchair
Captured weapons
Muzzleloaders mixed in with modern guns. If only they could talk those guns have probably shot colonials and everything in between.
What the frick is the weapon in the hard case on the right? The muzzle looks way too large to be for a bullet, but the barrel is super short and it looks like it's feeding from straight mags. Is it some unholy semi auto shotgun or something?
it's probably a gel blaster
Could be, but it makes no sense to me that something that worthless would be afforded a hard case with an optic intended to be mounted on it, so I assumed it's something actually useful.
Wait, you’re not allowed to own a goo shooter in NYC?
maybe its a large caliber AR like a .50 beowulf? for shooting at vehicles or whatnot?
Shotgun like the origin 12 or something
Bolter pistol.
>give it a google to see if I can contribute
>looks somewhat like every ar pistol, no luck
>see this shit
Is this real?
Yeah. Cuck state large capacity baby killer magazine
found it.
it's this toy gun painted black
well the dudes milling around are TNLA I think so it must be something used by the Army?
why are they all drinking coca cola?
In some 3rd world places, it's sort of like biblical wine, and the coca cola is more likely to be effectively filtered than any other drinking source. Plus energy.
Pagan Min's namesake was Burmese after all
>Myanmar Civil war
after they win, will rebels stop heroin production or increase it?
>completely stop heron production and allow chill mirage
>decriminalize drugs and become narco-state, also ban kulli
It' s their choice
Junta went full fricking moron, torching actual hundreds of villages all across the country. The have no actual governance other than "we'll shoot you so you have to listen to us". They offer nothing to anybody but people who are already in the military/family of military. They pissed otherwise neutral groups off to join against them because they just could not stop themselves from indiscriminately killing.
It's genuinely amazing how much the junta has fricked up since the coup
>Try to violently suppress protests in 2021
Protests morph into pro-NLD militias
>repeatedly try to prevent the pro-NLD militias from allying with ethnic militias
Most militias end up recognizing the government-in-exile and break their longstanding truces forcing them to fight accross multiple fronts
>try to gather support from Russia and China
Russia becomes entangled in Ukraine and China becomes pissed off due to government officials straight up enslaving Chinese civilians to defraud Chinese seniors
It's legitimately astounding that they've managed to be shit enough that dozens of militias across the political, religious, and ethnic spectrums that all hate each others' guts are willing to put aside their differences.
You need a coat in Burma? I thought it was sweltering jungle?
Burma is large, it even has polar tundra and tigers.
you’re telling me they have T-I-G-E-R-S
>random steppe in the middle of the country
lol who designed this map?
This pretty much the heartland of Myanmar. This area also happens to be where the pro-government-in-exile militias (PDFs) are the strongest. It's mainly populated by ethnic Bamars (main ethnic group) so the junta doesn't have much experience fighting there. On the other hand PDFs found much support among the local population as the junta's decades of failed economic policies have left them destitute.
The northern mountains get quite chilly in winter, I remember freezing at night when I hiked there.
>I thought it was sweltering jungle?
A full third or so of the country is in the Himalayas and their highest point is almost 20,000'; depending on where you're fighting it's either Vietnam or Afghanistan.
Zijiang M99 looks cool
I kinda want a pair of those vietnamese jungle boots...
Do you guys think that the Rohingya can use the civil war to fight and carve out a state for themselves?
No since Bangladesh also hates their guts
I was in Chiang Mai this past March and met a guy from Burma that said he had to flee to Thailand because he had manufactured about a hundred homemade bombs but the police got tipped off about it.
I'm out of the loop with this current war.
Are the Shan taking a side?
Question for /k/, you get put in a Far Cry situation, trapped in some foreign land with little money, only a 1911 with a few mags, and no connects, you can choose from 1, 2, 3, and 4 as the place you're sent to. Realistically, what would you do and are you surviving?
I'll chose the Far Cry 3 area. Comfy and I'll get to have mindblowing native sex before dying.
wait so what are all the sides in this war? I know there's the central junta and some rebels, and I keep hearing about china funding one of the groups, but I don't know which.
The Chinese were funding the Junta, who were the original perpetrators of the coup that took out the government. Now the Junta is the government, and the rebels are fighting to remove them.
The important thing to remember is there were rebels before the coup, but now they're picking up steam because various freedom fighters, who were determined to stop the Junta, joined up with the various ethnic rebel groups (enemy of my enemy is my friend, and all that jazz).
The simple answer is that there are almost too many rebel groups to count. I think its almost fair to say that virtually everybody who is not allied with the Junta is against it, at this point, due to the Junta going full fricking moron and destroying dozens of villages just because they THOUGHT there were rebels there. This caused the number of rebels and militias to grow very quickly, seeing as even if you considered yourself neutral you could still have your village massacred because the Junta thought a few rebels lived there.
The Chinese quickly backed off of supporting the Junta after various officials started kidnapping Chinese people to use them for slave labor. Once again proving just how moronic the Junta is.
So right now, the militias and rebels are consolidating capabilities, trying to seize weapons from the military, and build their forces.
Just look at this belligerents list. The gist is that the Tatmadaw (the Junta military), with a few ethnic militias for support (who are butthurt about other ethnicities and past conflicts with them, so thus support the Junta), are fighting a dozen plus militias and rebel groups at once. The biggest group on the rebel side seems to be the Three Brotherhood Alliance, a combined force of several large ethnic/breakaway state militias.
so is china still funding any groups there or have they cut off all funds movement
They started arming the rebels in a very funny twist of fate.
sorry im moronic i can see the rebel groups are some sort of communist ideology so the best guess is that china is funding them now
As of fall 2023 China tried to get rebel forces and the Junta into peace talks, but apparently
>The Brotherhood Alliance announced later on 13 December that these peace talks "lasted only 10 minutes" and vowed to continue fighting.
https://www.france24.com/en/asia-pacific/20231031-thousands-displaced-near-myanmar-china-border-after-attack-by-armed-groups
It appears that China is kind of playing both sides. Officially they talk to the Junta a lot, but they've also provided support to the various communist aligned rebel forces closer to the border.
I'd imagine their idea is its a win/win if the Junta stays in power or a major communist rebel group wins majority support and steers Burma toward China anyway.
>they've also provided support to the various communist aligned rebel forces closer to the border.
Sorry by the way, I'm a moron with the formatting here. That quote is from wikipedia, but in no way did I intend to imply it came from that article. Please mentally insert a paragraph break between the quote and the link, as they're discussing two separate but related things.
interesting
whats america's stance on this whole thing
Kind if middling. The sanctions don't reach terribly far, its mostly individuals associated with the Junta and some companies, but not the biggest companies that they're relying on for foreign currency (their oil and gas company MOGE). There's also been only marginal support for the rebel groups.
So far its been more intenational condemnation and fist shaking then it has been material support. I think this is probably out of concern for just how complex the situation is, with all the various rebel groups. If I was a State Department glowie trying to figure out who we would even give material support to, I'd have a mental breakdown. If you go with some of the biggest rebel groups, you may end up funding a future communist China aligned state. If you got with some of the smaller groups, your aid could be inconsequential, or on the flip side, those groups might seize an opportunity to do a small genocide while they have the material advantage over other ethnic groups (and nobody wants to see "State Department funded ethnic militia massacres other ones using M16s and M252 mortars" in the news).
If I were a glowie, I think spreading a bit of support throughout the groups could help keep the scales more even among them, and perhaps encourage them to work together. You'd be going for the idea that, since the others go aid too, that maybe it makes them think twice before they do a genocide.
If the rebels win and reinstall a government, they're going to have their work cut out for them to make it a multi-ethnic one so they don't keep having nasty civil wars. That's incredibly difficult to do.
I think the US is trying to avoid a situation where China becomes wary of US intervention in Myanmar and the junta becomes desperate for Chinese support. If the junta is seen as collapsing only due to US interference, China would be forced to intervene to protect their B&R initiatives. On the other hand if the NUG grows more or less organically, China would see the junta as incapable of maintaining stability while the NUG wouldn't end up as a US-proxy and would allow B&R initiatives out of sheer economic desperation. They have already sharply mellowed out in their tone against China, while the junta has accused China of being responsible for the chaos around them due to their alleged support for several EAOs.
Right, I agree that there's a real threat of it exploding into a proxy war between the US and China, and further inflaming those tensions. Letting it play out more naturally lets the various forces organically grow. That's better in the long run, and by all accounts the Junta is faltering anyway, with several experts describing them as being in a "death spiral" since fall of last year.
>whats america's stance on this whole thing
Nominally they support the NUG (government-in-exile) although there's a bit of bad blood between both as the US blamed the civilian government for the Rohingya genocide which irritates the NUG as it was entirely carried out by the military. Despite that they support them over the junta by a mile.
A cuckold stance no doubt about that.
Same situation happened literally yesterday. A regional (Northern Shan) truce signed with the Three Brotherhood Alliance (TNLA, MNDAA, AA) on the 12th collapsed as junta forces began bombing TNLA positions. It seems like you can't put the genie back inside the bottle. Although I'm not sure if the MNDAA and AA care considering the MNDAA controls most of their homeland already and the AA is mainly focusing on Rakhine state.
thats because China secretly considers Burma part of its territory. They have a dubious map somewhere that shows at one point a chinese Junk planted a flag and nobody else lived there. If the security situation gets bad enough and both the Junta and the Rebels are worn down they can force a "democratic" unification with China.
>the Junta going full fricking moron and destroying dozens of villages just because they THOUGHT there were rebels there
The burnings are a deliberate strategy to pressure neutral villages into joining pro-government Pyusawhti militias. It's a "you're either with us or against us" situation. It's not necessarily as stupid as one might think considering the junta desperately requires manpower and local intelligence.
>wait so what are all the sides in this war
>Tatmadaw
Regular military controlled by the SAC (State Administration Council) which came into power by couping the civilian government
>PDF (People's Defence Force(s))
Militias in support of the civilian government that was couped after the 2020 election.
>EAOs (Ethnic Armed Organizations)
Ethnic militias. Most are allied to the civilian government, some are neutral and a few are fighting with the junta. Overall most oppose the junta. Far too numerous to list all of them.
>keep hearing about china funding one of the groups, but I don't know which.
>UWSA
One of the, if not the strongest EAO in Myanmar. They are numerous, well-armed and control a sizable region on the border with China. They maintain a policy of strict neutrality regarding the civil war . They are very pro-China and receive strong Chinese support.
>MNDAA
Made up of ethnic Hans in the Kokang SAZ. Part of the Three Brotherhood Alliance (3BA). Their recent anti-junta offensive was possibly greenlit by China to pressure the SAC into cracking down against scam compunds tolerated by corrupt junta officials but now seems to have severely destabilized Myanmar to the point where 2 ceasefire attempts in the last two months between the 3BA and junta collapsed within a day.
https://www.irrawaddy.com/news/burma/myanmar-resistance-groups-get-creative-to-manufacture-weapons.html
The weapons the militias have been making a pretty cool. Mortars, bombs, IEDs, mines, guns from stamps and 3D printed stuff, and also drone dropped bombs.
ITT: c**ts figure out gunrunning and warprofiteering
Cute bulge, gonna frick that snack?
>real life far cry 4
The bad guy was so in the right Ubisoft had to make a DLC admitting he did nothing wrong?