The IL-22 seems to have made it back

Place your bets. What do you think this aircraft got hit by?

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  1. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    That's a Ukranian aircraft

    😉

  2. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    What's the tail number? Ukraine claims they specifically shot down RF-75106.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Another photo. Turned out to be RF-95678.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >RF-95678

        Where is the bit on the top? Is that removable or something?

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          anon, it was hit with a fricking PAC-2, what do you think happened to it?

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Probably just got blown off by the explosion

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          shrekt

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          It got blown off in the explosion.
          It's 100% an IL-22M and not any other Coot variant since you can see the APU exhaust under the tailplane.
          Il-18, Il-20 etc. do not have that

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          That's called the 'knot'

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Curiously this seems to reveal that the tip of the tail came off completely if the before images are anything to go by.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        don't know where you got this pic from, but that sadly appears to be a shoop

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >it's a shoop
          Or the OP is a shoop, given that most photos of VVS IL-22s show the tail number in that exact location. Which is more likely:
          >Russia removed the tail numbers from their C&C planes, but someone had a picture of the text originally on this one from just the right angle to match this photo
          >someone shooped the numbers off so they could claim it's Ukrainian lies!

          >all these morons claiming it was PAC-2
          sure bud Ukraine is definitely keeping patriots 15km from the frontline

          Could be the A-50 had been flying on a predictable schedule, Ukraine pulled a patriot battery into position, fired, and GTFO because it was a worthwhile risk to kill an AWACS.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I guess it's like this

        this picture is probably real because it has no watermark

        https://i.imgur.com/lKHEZoa.jpg

        Place your bets. What do you think this aircraft got hit by?

        op's got fricked up by removing the watermark

        https://i.imgur.com/3pOmzVA.png

        It's just from where they shooped out fighterbomber's watermark

        fighterbomber used the original to put his watermark on it, so this one is probably fake

        the picture with the numbers has to be the real one because it doesn't have the watermark

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          I put the picture with numbers into fotoforensics.com, it has much less errors/artifacts than the fighterbomber one, implying it's really the original one.

          to add, there is still no proof the picture is from 2022 or that the original didn't have the number shopped in.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            What is the benefit to shoopingthe tail numbers in?

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              they want the claim it's a picture from 2022

              How is nobody able to find the picture without tailnumbers and without homosexualbombers watermark as per [...] ?

              Seems like tail numbers picture is the original considering it bears no watermark or other signs of altercations.

              >How is nobody able to find the picture without tailnumbers and without homosexualbombers watermark as per
              because it could be his picture

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >because it could be his picture
                why does the one with tailnumbers have no watermark, he obviously wasn't the first to bring the picture, he was however the one who shooped it and spread it wide.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >why does the one with tailnumbers have no watermark, he obviously wasn't the first to bring the picture
                then why is there no source?
                also it's not hard to use AI to remove the watermark

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >then why is there no source?
                Why is there no source for an unwatermarked pic without tailnumbers
                >also it's not hard to use AI to remove the watermark
                then go ahead and do it with picrel, see how that turns out for ya

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'd rather someone try to figure out if the location can be determined by the markings on the fire truck. There's a different thread where anon speculates that this picture isn't taken at Anapa.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                In a video about the airport, uploaded 9 years ago, Anapa had different firetrucks

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous
              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/85A2uAu.png

                not really a evidence, stations have different types of vehicles

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Not claiming it to be 100% proof. It is a small airport firestation though. Build new in 2013. That would fit with the video and the trucks being new then. 4 doors, 3 trucks shown ad one command vehicle.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous
              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Station in June 2021

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Ukraine has knowledge of a Russian Il-22M damaged in 2022, including the tail number.
                >Ukraine immaculately photoshops the tail number onto a picture of an Il-22M damaged in 2024 to make a Russian propagandist look bad, who releases an obvious photoshop of the same plane
                What?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >RF-50601
      >RF-75106
      were the tail numbers posted posted around UKR telegrams, more specifically.

      photoshop
      [...]
      original
      [...]
      why do you think they hid the numbers?

      because confirmation on the IL-22 means the A-50 is 100% dead.

  3. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >always check your 6, Ivan
    >friendly PVO

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Kek the Russian text coming off the plane means shit!

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      These patches are so cringe. I don't know why you guys worship them.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        not my problem

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      meat rockets about to rearrange Ivan's large intestine

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        what makes a man reply with a comment like this im just curious about the mindset

  4. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >What do you think this aircraft got hit by?
    Not telling

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >top dog
      >is a pig
      Having a giggle, mate?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >being new
        it's ok mate, just try lurking more.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >lukr moar homosexual
          FIFY

  5. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >What do you think this aircraft got hit by
    S200. Literally the only thing with enough range to hit that IL and inaccurate enough to miss it (but with a warhead big enough to still seriously damage the plane)

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      It was hit 160km from Orkhiv. It was prettyclose to the shore

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Could be true. Ukraine had a S-200 division all the way until 2013 so they might still have missile stocks. Also Poland and Bulgaria still operate it so they might've donated some missiles or parts for repair.

      It was hit 160km from Orkhiv. It was prettyclose to the shore

      Wasn't the Il-22 hit next to Kerch bridge?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Ukraine already used S200 in ballistic mode too

  6. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    its fluted for weight reduction absolutely normal

  7. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    PAC-2

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      anon, it was hit with a fricking PAC-2, what do you think happened to it?

      french-italins Mamba (SAMP/T) reason being Aster 30 have radar self guidance and can be launched and directed i sector where contact is expected and missile then locks it on and destroys it

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Estimated range was ~140-160km, PAC-2 has an advertised range of 160km. Aster 30 is only 120km advertised.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >advertised

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          it can't be Patriot since it needs radar lock on
          >Aster 30 is only 120km advertised
          Aster 30 Block 1 NT: Above 150 km

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >NT
            was only contracted barely 12 months ago, and the French and Italian armies will get it first, NOT Ukraine

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Eurosam unveils new SAMP/T air defense variant at Dubai Airshow
              By Agnes Helou
              Nov 16, 2021
              wrong

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                wrong
                that was for Block 1

                this is for Block 1 NT
                https://navyrecognition.com/index.php/naval-news/naval-news-archive/2023/january/12773-france-italy-buy-new-aster-30-b1-nt-surface-to-air-missiles.html

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                wiki uses THAT article for a source that aster30 has 150+ km range

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                so it wouldn't be the first time Wikipedia is wrong, or the last

                the article you posted? it refers to Block 1NT, which is the one described with "range in excess of 150km"

                MBDA itself only says that Aster 30 goes "in excess of" 130km

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                https://www.mbda-systems.com/?action=force-download-attachment&attachment_id=26552

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >MBDA updates marketing material to reflect latest variant
                and this surprises you?

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Aster 30 is only a 15kg warhead with a 2m fragmentation radius.

            IDK about you, but the Il-22 that made it back looks like it was peppered by a much wider spread of fragmentation.

            The PAC-2 uses an 85kg fragmentation warhead with a much larger frag radius, more like what we see in the picture with a very large spread of fragmentation spread across the fuselage and tail.

            Can't patriot get a radar lock from a friendly AWACS in the area? We know Australia recently sent one of their E-7As there as well so a very modern AWACS would potentially be available for such tasks.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              >radar lock
              you are a newbie moron, these things have a radar warning, as soon as you they are locked they flee.
              >but the Il-22 that made it back looks
              that picture was debunked on this very thread
              JC

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >that picture was debunked on this very thread
                No it wasn't

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                gonna ignore first part of statement?
                also thread picture is from 2021

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >also thread picture is from 2021
                Then why can't you post that source from 2021?

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Still ignoring first statement like Black person you are?

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Still ignoring your downed AWACS and unrepairable SIGINT planes?

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                wtf? you moronic fricking wiener sucker, we are discussing which missile took it down. stop fricking begin so fricking obsessed with fricking pajeets and answer my question

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                So then what missile is it?

                It clearly isn't fricking Aster 30 with a tiny 15kg warhead.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                still ignoring my first statement, god you are such a massive gay

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                still not redeeming bloody bastard sir???

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                kys moron

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                What your bullshit claim that it CAN'T be PAC-2 because it NEEDS radar lock that it CAN'T POSSIBLY get from anywhere but it's own ground based radar and can't possibly be done in a way that would allow the Il-22 to know about it before it was too late.

                TZD and kys your self.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                lmao you have no argument why it is pac-2, except for "because i sed" when you get called out you call me zigger.
                you should really have a nice day

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Because of the distance, because we know they have patriot, because we can see from the pictures the blast radius is quite spread out, it looks far more like an 85kg fragmentation warhead than a 15kg fragmentation warhead which would be the next most likely missile, the Aster 30. But since, again, the fragmentation radius is quite large, I find it hard to believe a 15kg warhead could do that.

                So again, if it's not PAC-2, what the frick is it you stupid Black personhomosexual shill of a cuck?

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >from the pictures
                from pictures that are fake?

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >they're fake even though I can't find a single instance of that image being posted before

                i asked for a source 30 minutes ago and you still haven't posted one.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Sm-3

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >shill
                still going from that angle like moron you are?

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >if it's not PAC-2, what the frick is it you stupid Black personhomosexual shill of a cuck?
                Not that Black personhomosexual shill of a cuck but I wish to believe that it was an AIM-120 from an F16.
                Possibly the IL-22 was just flying in close formation to the A-50 and got peppered by the frag from the missile that took out the A-50.
                It's true in my heart.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Black personhomosexual shill of a cuck
                another moron lmao

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                You just need to know where their AWACS is and direct the missile into the nearby area THEN paint the actual target for the missile to hit once it is close enough for a good chance at a kill.

                Easily done with a modern NATO AWACS, wouldn't even need to be the Australian E-7A.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Easily done with a modern NATO AWACS
                you are fricking moronic if you think they are painting targets in azov sea all the way from black see
                go back to NCD

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >debunked
                no it hasn't

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                photoshop

                https://i.imgur.com/lKHEZoa.jpg

                Place your bets. What do you think this aircraft got hit by?

                original

                https://i.imgur.com/MNnHm3s.jpg

                Another photo. Turned out to be RF-95678.

                why do you think they hid the numbers?

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                idgi
                the one without the numbers is real?

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >radar warning
                These are literally radar and ELINT planes, the entire plane is a radar warning receiver
                >they flee
                This plane can do absolutely nothing to evade a missile except dump chaff (if it has it) and fly away in a straight line at a low speed

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >as soon as you they are locked they flee.

                Big slow targets cannot flee quickly.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              >radar lock
              >radar warning
              As i understand that's the difficulty with patriot. latest variants don't specifically illuminate target. The electronic array scans sky so fast and well it can track target and missile precisely enough that it can guide the missile directly to target. And the guidance is transmitted with the search pulses every time it scans across missile.

              At best you can detect search radar (still difficult due to fast scan), but there's no lock to see. If you have active radar you an see the missile yourself when it gets close, but good luck outrunning 5+ mach.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >the guidance is transmitted with the search pulses every time it scans across missile.
                Fricking hell I love democracy

  8. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Posted only photo of the tail
    >you can see the holess all the way to the left of the hull

    Lmao, let me guess, the rest of the plane looks way more damaged than the tail?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      What's more, the holes are on top of the fuselage and the bottom seems relatively undamaged. It looks like the missile detonated above and slightly to the left of the plane.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      perfidious anglo PAC-2 aims for the wienerpit btw, the tail was as far as physically possible from the explosion

  9. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    So do we think this plane is out of action indefinitely, or will Russia try and speedfix it to say that they did?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Looks pretty fricked up. And this is just the tail.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Never underestimate the power of speedtape.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Point of order.
        Those patches are not covering holes. They’re covering places where the paint started peeling because, IIRC, the type of paint traditionally used on airliners doesn’t adhere super well to the fancy new composites

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          lol, should've added "in Russian hands"
          >see vanya, hose out old crew, get new crew, tape cover hole, smekelka!!

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      that plane isn't flying again.

  10. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Crew were supposedly injured during the attack, by Russia's own admission
    >Only show damage on the tail
    How bad is the rest of the plane?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/vS1f50Z.jpg

      >Posted only photo of the tail
      >you can see the holess all the way to the left of the hull

      Lmao, let me guess, the rest of the plane looks way more damaged than the tail?

      the plane is most likely completely fricked and done for but it can't be THAT bad if they actually managed to land it

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not a zigger but you'd be surprised the damage a plane can take and still make a safe landing with

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >can't be THAT bad if they actually managed to land it
        A lot of US aircraft losses during Vietnam landed back in an airbase/carrier. After landing they got written off. There's a huge difference between flyable and airworthy.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Fighterbomber claims there are dead and injured among the crew, Ukrainian intelligence claims 2 deaths and two wounded

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      An earlier post in another thread specifically stated that both 200s (dead) and 300s (injured) were on the plane when it landed. Allegedly taken from a vatnik communication. Like tungsten rain, every one of those holes goes all the way through, no matter what meat was in between the sheets of metal.

      So do we think this plane is out of action indefinitely, or will Russia try and speedfix it to say that they did?

      Electronics are shrek'd, it's basically a rebuild from scratch with minimal (if any) salvage.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        These planes can't be rebuilt because they lost all knowhow on how to do it. It's SHIT and FINISHED.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >These planes can't be rebuilt because they lost all knowhow on how to do it. It's SHIT and FINISHED.
          By the Omnissiah, what do you mean the knowhow is lost?
          How can we lost the Soviet STC? and what do you mean when someone shat into the box?

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >It turns out 'scrapcode' was just Martian slang for pooping.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Electronics are shrek'd, it's basically a rebuild from scratch with minimal (if any) salvage

        They'd be better melting it into fluid and re-forging it anew

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Stupid westoid
      Crewmen that were injured are obviously the gnomes positioned in the tail responsible for the elevator and rudder movements via a handcrank

  11. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    a smooth criminal?

  12. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Place your bets. What do you think this aircraft got hit by?
    I've seen this before.
    Some of you may not wish to hear this, but this is clearly the work of Star Streak. Most likely wielded by the SAS.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      amtimatter warriortard, shut up

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      stop being silly

  13. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    *~~

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Damn, they have a major reserve and a minor reserve?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      that clown was war thunder youtuber years ago and now hes "military expert" and turbo zigger after latvia kicked him out. copebomber is kinda based here

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        He was always a zigger, simping for Russia and USSR, even though his dad worked hard to get him out that shithole lol

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Oh shit that's Alconafter? I thought he was still in Latvian jail. Kinda weird that he ended that way given his obvious Naziboo tendencies back in WT days.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I see alkonafter is still as homosexual as he was when he was making war thunder vids

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Question, what is the purple/pink stuff on these things? Translation quirk?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nah, it's supernova being a gay and underlining shit he thinks is most important. It also fricks up image translates kinda.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        a guy that posts original screenshots of tg channels underlines half of their text in screenshots
        absolutely no idea why

  14. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    well that planes out of commission.

  15. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    what are the chances the plane looks like that?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      My sides are in the Azov sea.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      lost

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous
  16. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Tails of planes are often the hardest to repair. Or in this case: replace

  17. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    my money's on PAC-2 from Orikhiv
    either standard model, or as this anon posted:

    [...]

    These planes can't be rebuilt because they lost all knowhow on how to do it. It's SHIT and FINISHED.

    that's the IL-22 not the A-50

  18. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >What do you think this aircraft got hit by?
    Russian anti air missile fired from russian territory by russians.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      No way. Ukraine hit it.

  19. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm dissapointed it made it back
    Now they can use it for replacement parts for another airframes
    And at least 1 dude survived so he will be able to fly again

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Honestly it would probably take more time and cost more money to take it apart, refurbish the shit, and get it back into a functional airframe, than it would to just write it off right now and start building a whole new one.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Honestly it would probably take more time and cost more money to take it apart, refurbish the shit, and get it back into a functional airframe
        Slave's time has no value, while lostek is priceless.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Serial numbers don't match. It didn't make it back.

  20. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    A smooth criminal
    >ANNIE R U OK

  21. 4 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I assume Boris was involved somehow?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >command posts
      >Crimea
      >Kursk
      >Belarus
      >what is possible for Jerusalem is not possible for Moscow?
      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Medvedevposting

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Perfidious Albi*n strikes yet again!

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >bong technology so advanced it can blind radar and fill your plane with holes
      >w-we should attack them

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      what's worse, admitting that ukrainians can and do shoot down your planes or implying that you fly your AWACS in enemy manpads range?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Americans wish they as hated by the Russians as the Brits are.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      At this point I honestly think they only blame the Brits so they can keep convincing the Indians to keep making posts online that Russia is winning.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Can somebody explain to me the hateboner Russians have for Brits in particular? It seems no matter the incident they will be mentioned.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Game
        tl:dr Imperial russia got buckbroken and they never forgot.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Their London mansions got seized

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        James Bond defeated many Russian supervillains.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        There’s a whole laundry list of reasons. One is that Britain has been a popular destination for many Russian expats, refugees, and asylum seekers.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        The Boris

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          But how do you take out a armata when no western weapon so far has been able to lock on to it?

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >no western weapon so far has been able to

            The Boris has.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        bongs actually achieved what russians dreamed about for centuries: they conqered all the shitholes the world has to offer

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        They are still eternally but mad over the Crimean war and the large "great game" geopolitical rivalry between them and the Bongs in the 1800s

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        bongs humiliated russia in the past.
        also better to seethe at the lesser of the two anglopowers as the consequences of war with bongs is less moronic for them than with the USA

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      They blinded it and some fricking how got close enough to hit it with fricking manpads, while it was flying over the sea of Azov?
      What in the actual frick?

  22. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Monke status : Chimping out.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      The bear closes its maw on the throat of the trapped pig…

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Giving his best Bruno Ganz impression, I'm sure.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      What's even the purpose of bombing apartments, hospitals and kindergartens in Kyiv? Do they think Ukraine will magically surrender if they keep doing it or is it just puccians being subhuman garbage, wanting to inflict suffering on innocents?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I imagine they do it, because they think that what works on them will work on Ukraine, hence they'll spazz out and bomb Kyiv because they know that if someone did that to Moscow, the will to continue the war would be shaken.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        To make Ukraine a failed state. At this point the Russian don't think they can capture Ukraine in the near future (in the next year or two) so they want to destroy Ukraine's economy and critical infrastructure. After a few years, the Russians hope they'll have the capacity back to take over Ukraine

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Again why we need to reinforce Ukraine's critical civilian systems. Above all, its hospitals.

          And also why we need to step up the war against Russia's ECONOMY. Make Russia fail first.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        yes.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Both. They're trying to crush Ukie civilian morale by inflicting suffering, ensuring constant fear, and destroying their standards of living. Thing is the Russians just flat don't have the capacity to do the damage necessary without nooking while Ukraine has solid AD in place. Instead of making Ukie civilians call for peace talks it's very likely just pissing most of them off even more. When this is over their hatred for Russia and it's people will burn brighter than the sun.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'll never forget this one picture of a looted Ukrainian house that had been used as a den by some mobiks. Before they retreated, one of them scrawled on the wall "Who gave you permission to live this well?!"

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        they can't accurately hit military targets so they just point in the general direction of a city.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Do they think Ukraine will magically surrender if they keep doing it or is it just puccians being subhuman garbage, wanting to inflict suffering on innocents?

        What makes you think these options are in any way mutually exclusive?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why wouldn't they have already done that?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Eyebrow status?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous
    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous
    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Putin is not the type burst out in anger phyisically like that. He's the type who'd sign an order that dooms million with blank expression and then chuckle to himself with some cheap joke like
      > let's see them go to space with trampoline
      Which makes me think it's a lie.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Putin is as much of a crime boss as he is a dictator so if he needs to put on a homosexual show of the big macho motherfricker throwing a shitfit to make a point, he will. It's Tony Soprano and attacking people.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous
    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      The chairs are broken. The monkey is shouting. The Shoigu is shivering.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        The Plywood General is decomposing.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          The Tuvan is degenerating.

    • 4 months ago
      Vladimir Putin

      SEND THE NEXT VDV WAVE OVER THE BLACK SEA

  23. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    The irony is that Chinese news media was just bragging about this downed plane the day before it got shot down. Just like the expensive shitbox from last week that list all of about 8 hours in the battlefield before being tactically repositioned to the moon.

  24. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    so this is a confirmed loss
    Russia had 12 of these. One was shot down by Wager during this failed Prigozin uprising last year.
    So they are down to 10.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Russia had 12 of these
      I thought they'd have more of these since it's just a civilian plane converted to a command post.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        its special because of the add-ons, the plane itself is just a few million iirc.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >surely we can build a satphone, it's just like my iPhone converted to military use

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >implying a Russian command post isn’t just a bunch of dudes sending telegrams from their Huaweis

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >begins typing furious retort
            >remembers the duct-taped Garmins in the bomber wienerpits
            ...point

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              it all starts making sense now....

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >asking for air support via a phone messenger
                cracks me up every time

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                ukies happily use discord

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Kinda cute, but what do they mean by this?

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                forgot pic

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Splashing into the waves?

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                d‘oh, im tired

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                probably https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Whale_Challenge
                not familiar with the emoji but it might be related to the linked stuff that was huge in russian segment in 2016

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              That is ver clearly not duct taped on. He is clearly using a clamp from the local elementary school workshop.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        we are talking about the military command post version Il-22 with irreplaceable electronics and a highly qualified crew

        there had been many civilian Il-18, it was in production from 1957 until 1985, several 100 had been build but most should be out of service
        converting one of these museum pieces in a military version would take years if it is possible at all.

  25. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is clearly light damage from birdstrike above Black Sea. Nothing more.
    And obviously aircraft is not important in removal of nazi ukraine forces.
    Any suggestion otherwise work of anglo-saxon westernist pigs.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Who has confirmed this damage except Ukraine?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        good point. should've started by saying its untrue, enemy propaganda and it was undamaged. THEN said the damage was a birdstrike.

        I'd make a shit russian, apparently.

  26. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Has Ukraine received any A2A missiles that can be fired by the soviet aircraft? Does anyone know?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      prolly not they'd need western jets for radar intergration. its not like anti radiation missiles that do there own thing or storm shadows which are preprogrammed before takeoff

  27. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    how important are these awacs planes anyway? I only have a vague understanding of their function.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      The idea of running an airborne radar and control platform is that because you've got a big aircraft with several engines and the ability to generate a lot of electrical power, you can run a big powerful transmitter and lift a big heavy antenna that means you have a range advantage over fighter aircraft radars, as well as some other performance metrics. So you put the thing behind the front line, safe (lol) from enemy interference, and you use it to detect enemy aircraft, figure out where they're going, and you then control your own friendly aircraft to move them into a position to attack the enemy.

      You know that most combat aircraft carry sensors to tell them they're being tracked by radar? One of the benefits to well-executed ground control or AEW control is that you can manoeuvre your friendly fighters into an advantageous position to attack enemy fighters while the enemy has no idea your fighters are there at all because they can only scan a narrow cone in front of the aircraft while you can scan 360°, so you can basically sneak the fighters up the ass of the enemy and only fire up their own radars when it's too late for the enemy to effectively respond.

      A large airborne radar is also more likely to have a better detection range on small low flying contacts like cruise missiles.

      In the west, AWACS and Wedgetails and E2s and other AEW&C aircraft have the radar detection and the command and control on board the same platform. I do not know if this is different in the Russian air force and if that is the role the Ilyushin was performing, or if it was conducting command and control of ground elements.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      What the frick. Read the wiki page or something. They are insanely invaluable. Literally radar in the sky. You know bow good radar is? Now imagine a mobile one in the sky.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      it's a flying radar, so pretty important for air defense

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      they're giant flying radar stations that, unlike ground stations, can see far beyond the horizon and reposition themselves
      they do everything that radar does
      they're arguably more valuable than ground radar

      Russia began the war with only nine of them, all dating back to 1992 because they've tried (and failed) to build a replacement for the past 10 years. one was damaged in Belarus. one has now been shot down.

      seven remain, with zero prospect of replacement.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Extremely important if they want to down Ukrainian jets, and they only have 3

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nah they have more than that, probably ~5-8.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          How many of them can actually fly?

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            That's why I said ~5-8.

            Hard to say how many can actually fly, or how many crews they have at the moment to fly them.

  28. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >all these morons claiming it was PAC-2
    sure bud Ukraine is definitely keeping patriots 15km from the frontline

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >dunning-kruger
      fighterbomber has been moaning about mobile Patriots pulling the old shoot-and-scoot for a while now, smartass

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        They literally did that last year for a shoot and scoot attack in May and dropped five aircraft

        They supposedly just got some more Patriots recently and they're known to fire and GTFO.

        Ukraine has already done it a handful of times already, I have to imagine it's rare though as they are quite expensive and rare.

        that’s still be at the upper limit of its range
        meaning no energy (ie no maneuverability) upon interception

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          It shot down the equivalent of a commercial airliner, not a highly maneuverable fighter.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            it still had to reach and maintain altitude and keep track of the target

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yes? Something it was specifically designed to do at the advertised range, which is also probably ~5-10% shy of its actual maximum performance range in ideal conditions.

              Yes, it was a long-range shot, but that doesn't make it somehow less plausible.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Please understand anon, for russians max range is the literal maximum distance their missiles can cover in perfect circumstances. They cannot fathom that america lists its maximum effective ranges instead (likely undercounted)

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Depends on the missile. Russians like to use the plane max range plus the missile max range when it comes to A2A missiles.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                > the Potemkin specification

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            yeah, one of them an airliner with a giant bloody radar dome on its back
            it's no pulling any fricking high-gee jinks with that strapped on

            [...]
            [...]
            that’s still be at the upper limit of its range
            meaning no energy (ie no maneuverability) upon interception

            >that’s still be at the upper limit of its range
            that is unclassified
            in NATO terms that means "we can reach further but we're not telling"

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Gee Willickers Batman, maybe they could I dunno try attacking two slow, lumbering support aircraft with no maneuverability,

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >that’s still be at the upper limit of its range
          on paper

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >meaning no energy (ie no maneuverability) upon interception
          which would explain how the IL-22 survived
          but I also think the S-200 theory might also be true

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      They literally did that last year for a shoot and scoot attack in May and dropped five aircraft

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      They supposedly just got some more Patriots recently and they're known to fire and GTFO.

      Ukraine has already done it a handful of times already, I have to imagine it's rare though as they are quite expensive and rare.

  29. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't see that many holes on the bottom of the fuselage. Clearly not rocket damage possibly a bad case of mid-air hail with current weather everyone knows everything is possible.

  30. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Heres nose

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      nice try gay

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        That's the 2014 MH17 shoot down.

        fym

        https://news.sky.com/story/russia-lying-over-role-in-flight-mh17-being-shot-down-say-families-of-298-victims-at-murder-trial-12400615

        I am sorry, my bad
        I got rused

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's the 2014 MH17 shoot down.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        No it's not. That's the prosecution's recreation of the George Zimmerman crime scene from his trial.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      fym

      https://news.sky.com/story/russia-lying-over-role-in-flight-mh17-being-shot-down-say-families-of-298-victims-at-murder-trial-12400615

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Hm.

  31. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ukraine is playing with fire and are like children with firecrackers. They do not know the hammer that will be dropped on them. Make no mistake, Russia will stop pulling punches, and will unleash fury and hellfire on Ukraine.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous
    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      are the gloves coming off?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      When will Ukraine bomb the Kremlin already?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Already happened.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          it was inside job. During flash you can see reflection of a guy with professional camera.

  32. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    What a tough fricking plane! How about that shit? Couldn't even bring down the plane with multiple hits! It made it back to headquarters under it's own fricking power!

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Aircraft are soft and delicate but there's a fair bit of real estate frags can punch through without hitting anything vital to flight, and understressed big birds have more of it.

      WWII 8th AF bomber damage survivors are interesting examples. Of course then there were so many aircraft the common choice was towing them off for cannibalization (which keeps every major air force running more effectively even in peace time) since many completely undamaged useful parts will remain. It's like taking them apart at AMARC then scrapping the hulk and the work is fun for techs because they get to do shit beyond normal parts swapping.

  33. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw the Tu-160 will probably get droned in the next couple months at this pace
    brace yourselves lads

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I hope the Russian pilots make a secret deal to land them in a Ukrainian airfield so they can be repurposed. I would hate to see them destroyed they are awesome planes

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Ukraine has a couple in museums, provided they weren't struck by Kalibers due to Ivan's map from 1987 listing it as a strategic bomber base.

  34. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Shouldn't it be possible to ID the missile based on the fragmentation pattern?

  35. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    apparently its one of 2, the other got back as per op's picture

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous
  36. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >What do you think this aircraft got hit by?
    Twitchy and/or drunk russian air defense

  37. 4 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >they're getting butthurt at people reacting to them

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      THERE IS NO PANIC

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >if we pretend there is no problem at least we win propaganda war comrades!

  38. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >day 9001 of the invasion of mexico
    >mexico is fricking up american awacs

  39. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >It's some other Il-22 that got shitfricked.
    I haven't found any source for the allegedly "earlier" picture, however

  40. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    How does that mean the image isn't real?

    It just means they tried to cover the number when it was posted.

  41. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    You are blind or sub 80 iq
    the fake one is the one without the tail number, very sloppy shop

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      he called me a vatnik for saying it was Aester-30 not pac2. he is moronic newbie and has no idea how both systems work

  42. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Just one has a tail number shopped in.
    tail number shopped out. since plane with that number wasn't nowhere near Crimea apparently. Also why do you think they photoshopped the number out? are you that dumb?

  43. 4 months ago
    FrankenSAM - Patriot launcher + S-300 radar

    There is possibility that both planes were shot down by FrankenSAM - Patriot launcher + S-300 radar
    There is already existing projects that integrate S-300 launcher + western radar AN/TPS-78 in Algeria, source https://defence--ua-com.translate.goog/army_and_war/s_300_mozhut_pratsjuvati_z_amerikanskimi_rls_antps_78_tak_vijshlo_navit_v_alzhiru-11611.html?_x_tr_sl=uk&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp
    So why not integrate western launcher + soviet radar?

    Also it would explain why Patriot system was brought so close to contact line - because it's most expensive component AN/MPQ-53 radar - was replaced by CT-68 (NATO: Tin Shield, 5H59)

    • 4 months ago
      FrankenSAM - Patriot launcher + S-300 radar

      More info from t.me/vanguard_spacepro (Goole Translate):

      Operation Frankenstein

      Last night we witnessed an interesting precedent in this war. Ukrainian air defense units were able to shoot down and hit two rare and important aircraft of the Russian air defense system: DRLV A-50 and Il-22M11 (PKP)
      What did the planes shoot down? Based on the fact that the distance to the A-50 drop zone from the front line is less than 100 km, the only weapon in the armed forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine that can hit an aircraft-type target is the PAC-2 GEM-T/GEM-C anti-aircraft missile. And here comes an interesting detail:
      the pilot of the Russian Su-34 (launching the Kh-59) during a conversation with the controller (https://t.me/monitorwarr/18003), reported that his plane came under the radiation of the "300-tka" radar (i.e. S -300), which was previously reported by the onboard SPO. After that, he performed an evasive maneuver from the anti-aircraft missile that was probably fired at him.
      The X-59 launch itself took place over the same region of the Sea of Azov.
      Today, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation confirmed the defeat of its aircraft by the "Patriot" complex.

      Logical explanation: the Armed Forces of Ukraine carried out an operation to attack these planes, knowing in advance all the details of the flight. To avoid the loss of the expensive AN/MPQ-53 radar, as part of the FrankenSAM program, it was replaced with a S-300 complex radar or another Ukrainian-made radar. This hypothesis also explains the fact that the Russians could not detect the Patriot air defense system by the characteristic radiation of its radar. We have certain confirmations from sources

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Russians could not detect the Patriot air defense system by the characteristic radiation of its radar
        even more moronic

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          > Russians could not detect the Patriot air defense system
          it's not about russian ability to detect patriot radar - which they able to do
          in context of original tg post it was about that there were no patriot radar in the area - only radar that was detected was "300" - radar from s-300

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            ohhhh

            >retreated away
            From what? They're 100km away from what they though are 75km Missiles. And even if doing 180 on detection your still trying to outrun Mach 5+ with 900km/h. At best they might do a steep dive and hope to hide behind horizon, but it might not be as easy with heavily outfitted air-liners.

            >They're 100km away
            they can pick up radar way farther away from that

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              That's not the point. They saw an s-300 complex painting them but weren't concerned because s-300 missiles wouldn't be able to touch them. Radar can see targets up to 200km away, depending, but the missiles that s-300s Ukraine has can only hit things 60km or less.

              Except it wasn't an s-300 that was launched, but some PAC version. And it did go the distance.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Russians could not detect the Patriot air defense system by the characteristic radiation of its radar
            even more moronic

            Patriots PAC-2 is command guided (TVM). I'd assume aircraft in the region are constantly hit by air search radars so it's not a reason for concern in on itself. I'm not in on the specifics of a modern Patriot battery but if they can datalink target information from other sources they can command guide the missile close enough, then start blasting a pencil beam from the FCR to provide accuracy for the terminal engagement.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        replacing the radar with an S300 setup is brilliant.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      > newbie pretenind to be tripgay
      both of planes have a radar detection, if they were pinged they would have retreated away.
      are newbie really this moronic?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >retreated away
        From what? They're 100km away from what they though are 75km Missiles. And even if doing 180 on detection your still trying to outrun Mach 5+ with 900km/h. At best they might do a steep dive and hope to hide behind horizon, but it might not be as easy with heavily outfitted air-liners.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        moron they probably weren't sure if it was a friendly or hostile radar since both sides use that system until the lock warning started blaring and he started yanking it to evade.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        newbie

        >translate dot goog
        phising Black person

        brain damage

        https://icannwiki.org/.goog

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      That or its UAF that somehow slipped in and shot them down

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >translate dot goog
      phising Black person

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      More info from t.me/vanguard_spacepro (Goole Translate):

      Operation Frankenstein

      Last night we witnessed an interesting precedent in this war. Ukrainian air defense units were able to shoot down and hit two rare and important aircraft of the Russian air defense system: DRLV A-50 and Il-22M11 (PKP)
      What did the planes shoot down? Based on the fact that the distance to the A-50 drop zone from the front line is less than 100 km, the only weapon in the armed forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine that can hit an aircraft-type target is the PAC-2 GEM-T/GEM-C anti-aircraft missile. And here comes an interesting detail:
      the pilot of the Russian Su-34 (launching the Kh-59) during a conversation with the controller (https://t.me/monitorwarr/18003), reported that his plane came under the radiation of the "300-tka" radar (i.e. S -300), which was previously reported by the onboard SPO. After that, he performed an evasive maneuver from the anti-aircraft missile that was probably fired at him.
      The X-59 launch itself took place over the same region of the Sea of Azov.
      Today, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation confirmed the defeat of its aircraft by the "Patriot" complex.

      Logical explanation: the Armed Forces of Ukraine carried out an operation to attack these planes, knowing in advance all the details of the flight. To avoid the loss of the expensive AN/MPQ-53 radar, as part of the FrankenSAM program, it was replaced with a S-300 complex radar or another Ukrainian-made radar. This hypothesis also explains the fact that the Russians could not detect the Patriot air defense system by the characteristic radiation of its radar. We have certain confirmations from sources

      >Patriot missile Guided by S-300 radar
      Love the weird hybridization this war has brought on. East and West smashed together

  44. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    (me)

    idgi
    the one without the numbers is real?

    Yes and no. The one WITH tail numbers is a real image, but it's probably not from the one that got shot over the Azov Sea. The Ukies claim they shot down RU-75106, not 95678.

    https://i.imgur.com/YhZPq4H.jpg

    >that picture was debunked on this very thread
    No it wasn't

    Motherfricker, it's the exact same image. Just one has a tail number shopped OUT.

    (Earlier version claimed the tail number was shopped in. I apologize profusely and admit to my blindness.)

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      frick off wanker, you proved how moronic you really are... just let it go and go back to ncd

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >is a real image
      this is I think the fifth or sixth time asked this thread
      if you claim so, then WHERE THE FRICK IS THE EARLIER IMAGE?!

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why did they shoop the fin root as well?

  45. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >arguing about shops when the source of the original isn't given

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      you are moronic and blind for typing that out

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >it's shopped okay!
        >no I can't provide the original source!
        >trust me bro it's shopped!

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/FkUC8rn.png

          why shop out the blue stripe and add a spike on the wing?

          you can literally see straight pattern of rivets in one fricking picture and not in another. there is no way you are that moronic.
          look at straight lines around the photoshopped pic
          ffs you newbies should leave already

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            I know somebody added the numbers, the original AFAIK had no serial
            you however claimed that it's from an earlier 2022 IL-22
            fricking source that or leave, loser

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            You can't see shit on the (OP) picture because it was conpressed to hell to hide the monkey shoopjob

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            you are a moron

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >didn't post a source either
        brown

  46. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    why shop out the blue stripe and add a spike on the wing?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      fetal alcohol syndrome, please understand

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Only IL-22Ms are painted like that with the blue line all the way to the and of the fuselage. So it'll prove it's an IL-22M along with the serial No.
      Russians have been trying to say it's another, less important kind of "Coot" variant because the antenna at the tip of the fin is missing

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's just from where they shooped out fighterbomber's watermark

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        this picture actually looks like the real deal

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          It is.
          Both subsequent images are photoshopped.
          Ziggers have photoshopped an incorrect serial in to cast doubt on Ukraine's claims
          NAFO shills have photoshopped fighterbomber's watermark out to avoid giving ziggers more traffic
          The fact NAFO shopped Fighterbomber's image and warped various details from the telegram source image is helping ziggers pass off their shoop as genuine.

          Russian aircraft operating the war now have all their serials painted/taped over. That's what the weird black lines on the original tg image are: tape holding the mask used to hide the aircraft's serial and the VVS or BMO titles that are on the fin

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          no, it's clearly this one

          https://i.imgur.com/MNnHm3s.jpg

          Another photo. Turned out to be RF-95678.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            with the number clearly shopped in
            why are you moron so desperate to claim the plane had the wrong number?
            are you the moron who made this

            [...]

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Lol no

              They clearly just doubled up on that angled section then blurred the number out.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                with the number clearly shopped in
                why are you moron so desperate to claim the plane had the wrong number?
                are you the moron who made this [...]

                lol vatnik lies destroyed by using your eyes. Gets em every time.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/hlqhYND.jpg

                The blue underside missing is because Fighterbombers watermark was shopped out, there is a picture without numbers, a blue underside and no watermark.
                The spike is a decent question, it doest however look off, and the small black protusion on the picture with numbers does not look out of place.
                Further, the spike wouldn't have interfered with placing the numbers, so was uneccesary to shop out if the numbers on is the shoop.

                But now: why would the plane have no tailnumber? The picture with the tailnumber has it in the exact right place as expected, per picrel.
                Would you explain that by the vatnigs painting over tailnumbers for whatever reason? Makes no sense.

                Yeah it becomes incredibly obvious they just shopped the section next to the BBC POCCИИ and then blurred the numbers

                The numbers are 100% real and confirm it's an Il-22M.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                The other thread the Vatnik linked to, where they're also sperging out, OP is implying that 95678 isn't the plane that was hit over Azov, but a different Il-22M hit by 2 Buks in 2022, which is why they are trying so hard to make it seem like the tail numbers are a lie. It's possible both planes were lost, but they can't just sweep the mayday over open comms under the rug, so they produced photos of an Il-22M that was damaged and made in back to base.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >so they produced photos of an Il-22M that was damaged and made in back to base
                then why the frick can't someone find evidence of this picture existing before the last day or two?

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                the pic with the numbers has the same blur and heavy artifacts
                the numbers look to have less artifacts than the rest of the picture

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >that's not true
                >why would it have no tail number?

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                they also have the number on the blue stripe moron

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                lol it's very clearly real and the same plane, you can even see the И that got shopped out in the other versions without the numbers.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                lmao picture with no number has shit ton of artifact where number should be

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                and the numbers have less artifacts than the rest of the picture

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/vJEgotk.png

                Further, the shoop has this weird curvature where the 5 is supposed to be

                lmao, give up

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                you literally replied to 2 posts that are on opposite side of the issue moron.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Further, the shoop has this weird curvature where the 5 is supposed to be

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Just a pimple. It happens.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              >are you the moron who made this
              clearly he is
              keeps yelling SHOP to pretend it's from 2022, shifts goalposts to an edit of fighterbomber's day-old image

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >It's just from where they shooped out fighterbomber's watermark
        That seems very plausible.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's not a spike on the elevator, that's the bottom of the rudder where it meets the vertical stabilizer. You can see that it lines up with the rest of the rudder actuators or hinges (not an aero-engineer nerd). Whoever edited it took the relatively clean section just above the joint to cover the tail number, which duplicated gap.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      The blue underside missing is because Fighterbombers watermark was shopped out, there is a picture without numbers, a blue underside and no watermark.
      The spike is a decent question, it doest however look off, and the small black protusion on the picture with numbers does not look out of place.
      Further, the spike wouldn't have interfered with placing the numbers, so was uneccesary to shop out if the numbers on is the shoop.

      But now: why would the plane have no tailnumber? The picture with the tailnumber has it in the exact right place as expected, per picrel.
      Would you explain that by the vatnigs painting over tailnumbers for whatever reason? Makes no sense.

  47. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    What AA doing?

  48. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Patriot also has an longer range Anti air ballistic HARM mode that is passive sensor so there would be no warning.
    You basically lob it in the general area where an awacs or jammer is transmitting and it will aim for it on its way back down.

  49. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Here's the deal morons.
    Post the source of the picture with the numbers.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Heres the deal homosexual.
      Explain why there are so many inconsistensies with the picture with no tail number and then also explain why the Russians would remove the tail number from the plane at all while actively flying it.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Explain why there are so many inconsistensies
        doesn't matter
        you claimed it's a shop
        post the original from which it was taken, or frick off

        >explain why the Russians would remove the tail number from the plane at all while actively flying it
        standard OPSEC, moron

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >I can't explain the glaring faults in the shop so I'm just going to ignore them
          kek
          >standard OPSEC
          no, it's not.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >j-j-just trust me it was from 2022 okay!
            lol no
            >no, it's not.
            and you're going to grace us with the same lack of proof for this extraordinary statement, of course

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              You're the one who made the claim about muh opsec, so you better pull up the manual that states that
              >u-uh, nu-uh!
              yeah, as expected

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >You're the one who made the claim about muh opsec
                USAF removes tail numbers
                https://www.military.com/daily-news/2023/03/01/air-mobility-command-removes-tail-numbers-and-unit-info-planes-alarming-watchdogs.html
                French Navy removes hull numbers
                https://navyrecognition.com/index.php/naval-news/naval-news-archive/2023/february/12783-french-navy-is-erasing-pennant-numbers-on-its-lhds.html

                you probably don't even know what the Z tac sign was originally for, and why it's necessary

                don't ever post here again, you're unqualified to open your mouth

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Competent militaries do that, we're talking about Russians here

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >USAF removes tail numbers
                Nope, only made them smaller and more subdued.
                >French Navy removes hull number
                Is the IL-22M a ship now? I guess it might be close to a submarine, considering it's most likely sitting somewhere in the Azov sea... Interesting point.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >so many inconsistensies
        explained by shopping out the watermark
        >why the Russians would remove the tail
        some planes have it on the blue stripe not on the wing

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          The watermark wasn't going through the area the tail number is in the original, the watermark didn't cause the top of the backwards N or the bottom of the rudder to be duplicated.

          so you moron admit you are trying to push the number is real without any proof

          The picture with the number does not show the obvious signs of editing the one without it, both the watermarked and non watermarked versions, so it is 100% more real than that one. It could be a picture of the aircraft damaged in February of 2022 though, which would explain all of this damage control.
          Who would benefit from having numbers added to the picture? How does it benefit Ukraine or Pro-Ukraine actors to add tail numbers to this picture that are different than the one they claimed to hit?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      FSB probably released both the shopped and the original one to create disinfo.
      And it's working, just look at this thread and others.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      We're not gonna help FSB find the poor Tuvan conscript who leaked the photo. They can do their own jobs.

      >so they produced photos of an Il-22M that was damaged and made in back to base
      then why the frick can't someone find evidence of this picture existing before the last day or two?

      You may be too young to understand this, but pictures can exist without being posted to social media.

      FSB probably released both the shopped and the original one to create disinfo.
      And it's working, just look at this thread and others.

      Remember the Snake Island belt buckle. They had to reblur their propaganda because it disproved itself.

      >we have source for picture with no number
      >no source for picture with number

      We have a source for the picture that is photoshopped.

      >Explain why there are so many inconsistensies
      doesn't matter
      you claimed it's a shop
      post the original from which it was taken, or frick off

      >explain why the Russians would remove the tail number from the plane at all while actively flying it
      standard OPSEC, moron

      The original picture is in this thread, multiple times.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        so you moron admit you are trying to push the number is real without any proof

  50. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >we have source for picture with no number
    >no source for picture with number

  51. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I put the picture with numbers into fotoforensics.com, it has much less errors/artifacts than the fighterbomber one, implying it's really the original one.

  52. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Picrel is the only picture that exists so far without the fighterbomber watermark or the obviously removed watermark (missing blue underside)
    And guess what? It has the tailnumbers.

    Nobody can find the one without tailnumbers and without watermark and blue underside, and that's because it only existed on homosexualbombers PC before he watermarked his shodddy photoshop lmao.

  53. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    How is nobody able to post the source of the picture with numbers?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      How is nobody able to find the picture without tailnumbers and without homosexualbombers watermark as per

      https://i.imgur.com/oeyPFED.png

      Picrel is the only picture that exists so far without the fighterbomber watermark or the obviously removed watermark (missing blue underside)
      And guess what? It has the tailnumbers.

      Nobody can find the one without tailnumbers and without watermark and blue underside, and that's because it only existed on homosexualbombers PC before he watermarked his shodddy photoshop lmao.

      ?

      Seems like tail numbers picture is the original considering it bears no watermark or other signs of altercations.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Would providing the source prove it's fake? No one needed to know the shooped pic wasfrom Fighterbomber to notice all the evidence of it being shooped. So where's the evidence that it's faked?

  54. 4 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Damn that thing got peppered good. Also looks like there was a reg

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah.. that thing is never flying again. kek

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        why not? cant they just fix the back

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Well at least they were honest about blocking out the tail number this time

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      sure looks a lot like pic related...

      https://i.imgur.com/YhZPq4H.jpg

      >that picture was debunked on this very thread
      No it wasn't

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      and wait for it...
      RF-95678 is one of the few that still has a red star instead of a Russian Federation flag.

  55. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    You know, this thread is the perfect illustration as to WHY everyone is completely moronic in making weapons' deliveries announcements. The worst being how it's like a dumb kids school playground ''See? I delivered that, aren't I awesome?''
    No. You shut the frick up, you give cool toys to Ukies, and you let them take the ziggerd by surprise when they're their pants down (for Ivan to suck Dmitry's dick).
    You just shut up. You keep the element of surprise and let the ziggers shit their pants not knowing what it was, where it was, and when it will happen again.

  56. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Explosive shits from seaborne pajeeets. You can distinctly see corn-related structure damage.

  57. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    mechanical malfunction.

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